Clarence Jones

Exactly. Does that mean that I have to forage or what? What does that mean?

Exactly. Does that mean that I have to forage or what? What does that mean?

Okay. I'll take your word for it. I won't try that one. I'll stick with it. I will say this about the whole lifestyle thing.

Okay. I'll take your word for it. I won't try that one. I'll stick with it. I will say this about the whole lifestyle thing.

That's why I asked the question about guilt. That's why I asked the question about guilt. Is that, I mean, you know, if somebody's up in there for eight hours a day, I mean, like, Well, clearly, I mean, that's what I mean. I know you love people. You know, you love people. But, you know, that that's, you know, if you talk to them, they don't know what you're saying.

That's why I asked the question about guilt. That's why I asked the question about guilt. Is that, I mean, you know, if somebody's up in there for eight hours a day, I mean, like, Well, clearly, I mean, that's what I mean. I know you love people. You know, you love people. But, you know, that that's, you know, if you talk to them, they don't know what you're saying.

I mean, it's like, what's what's going on? I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just trying to I'm just saying these are the things that I have struggled with. I want to say one other thing, too, is that I have been a caregiver of a caregiver and that's hard work.

I mean, it's like, what's what's going on? I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just trying to I'm just saying these are the things that I have struggled with. I want to say one other thing, too, is that I have been a caregiver of a caregiver and that's hard work.

So I think that, you know, for people to understand why it's so important to do self-care during this process, because this is a lot of work that you want to do, but you also have to take care of yourself at the same time.

So I think that, you know, for people to understand why it's so important to do self-care during this process, because this is a lot of work that you want to do, but you also have to take care of yourself at the same time.

You know what, Stan? I want to just tell you this. I love what you just said because it's so interesting. I mean, you started off talking about, you know, your work. And so... My concept, my thinking about immortality really was shaped by my Christian upbringing. You know, the whole idea about life after death. I mean, so immortality and death were just kind of combined.

You know what, Stan? I want to just tell you this. I love what you just said because it's so interesting. I mean, you started off talking about, you know, your work. And so... My concept, my thinking about immortality really was shaped by my Christian upbringing. You know, the whole idea about life after death. I mean, so immortality and death were just kind of combined.

But it's interesting when you talked about the symbolism. I always thought about snakes as death.

But it's interesting when you talked about the symbolism. I always thought about snakes as death.

So as you were talking about this whole thing, I just want to enter into this conversation. And I'm really excited that we have our younger colleagues who are part of this because it was a conversation that was generated by them. that caused me to really want to enter this question. So I'm just here to learn, uh, immortality, uh, uh, and I think it comes from this whole idea about being young.

So as you were talking about this whole thing, I just want to enter into this conversation. And I'm really excited that we have our younger colleagues who are part of this because it was a conversation that was generated by them. that caused me to really want to enter this question. So I'm just here to learn, uh, immortality, uh, uh, and I think it comes from this whole idea about being young.

You don't think about death. You think about you're going to live forever. So therefore you're willing to take all kinds of risk. You really do all those kinds of things. And so it's just kind of interesting. So I'm ready to, I'm ready to rock and roll and talk about this topic. So that's my, that's my initial thought.

You don't think about death. You think about you're going to live forever. So therefore you're willing to take all kinds of risk. You really do all those kinds of things. And so it's just kind of interesting. So I'm ready to, I'm ready to rock and roll and talk about this topic. So that's my, that's my initial thought.

You know, I think, Sam, what's interesting to me in what you're saying is this, is that I think sometimes the way that we address this issue is based on our worldview. for some folks, this is the only life we get. You're going to do everything you can at this particular point. That's how they determine their life. For me, the whole idea about immortality is one that we all struggle with.

You know, I think, Sam, what's interesting to me in what you're saying is this, is that I think sometimes the way that we address this issue is based on our worldview. for some folks, this is the only life we get. You're going to do everything you can at this particular point. That's how they determine their life. For me, the whole idea about immortality is one that we all struggle with.