Clarence Jones

Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's true.

You know, I think, Stan, I like what you said because I think we sometimes like to see people worse off than us. Right. I mean, it's really a human thing. Like, oh, I'm not as bad as these people are. I mean, you've been doing the same thing, but oh, I'm bad, but I'm not as bad as that one. You know what I mean? So I think that part of it really is people have found a way to...

You know, I think, Stan, I like what you said because I think we sometimes like to see people worse off than us. Right. I mean, it's really a human thing. Like, oh, I'm not as bad as these people are. I mean, you've been doing the same thing, but oh, I'm bad, but I'm not as bad as that one. You know what I mean? So I think that part of it really is people have found a way to...

motivate us to do some of the things that they want us to do and we just have to be mindful of you know as we talked before about our own personal values and not allow others to infringe upon those personal values and you know hopefully live and have a healthier and better world so I'm finished man well I tell you fake news is unfortunately I don't think is going away I think

motivate us to do some of the things that they want us to do and we just have to be mindful of you know as we talked before about our own personal values and not allow others to infringe upon those personal values and you know hopefully live and have a healthier and better world so I'm finished man well I tell you fake news is unfortunately I don't think is going away I think

Yeah. And just to build on that, for me, you have politics. And I'd like to take the first few letters of politics, at least from the policy perspective. but it happens at the federal level, which we were talking about, but it very much is impacted at the state level. Okay. And it's also impacted at the local level.

Yeah. And just to build on that, for me, you have politics. And I'd like to take the first few letters of politics, at least from the policy perspective. but it happens at the federal level, which we were talking about, but it very much is impacted at the state level. Okay. And it's also impacted at the local level.

And so I'm just trying to think, you know, for any normal person, how do you possibly get your head around where that goes? Because, you know, from a political system perspective, you have both policy development and OK, which which actually like in the Johnson administration created Medicare and Medicaid. That was that was a biggie.

And so I'm just trying to think, you know, for any normal person, how do you possibly get your head around where that goes? Because, you know, from a political system perspective, you have both policy development and OK, which which actually like in the Johnson administration created Medicare and Medicaid. That was that was a biggie.

And then you have the legislative part of things that control the purse strings. Right. Right. And then the other part that, you know, Clarence, that that you were saying and also Stan, that the purse strings part also relates to our systems. of private insurance.

And then you have the legislative part of things that control the purse strings. Right. Right. And then the other part that, you know, Clarence, that that you were saying and also Stan, that the purse strings part also relates to our systems. of private insurance.

And so there's this inequality across insurance companies, you know, so that, you know, one plan might have a very robust mental health coverage. Another plan, not, you know, not so much. And so how, you know, how does the average person or does the average citizen start to engage in that to realize the impact it has.

And so there's this inequality across insurance companies, you know, so that, you know, one plan might have a very robust mental health coverage. Another plan, not, you know, not so much. And so how, you know, how does the average person or does the average citizen start to engage in that to realize the impact it has.

And so, you know, Stan, I heard your story too, where people are saying, you know, I don't want government to mess with my healthcare and don't you dare touch my Medicare. Right, right. It's just like- And that's, again, the balance there between, so what do people mean? And I think to me, it's more, there's the insurance part of it.

And so, you know, Stan, I heard your story too, where people are saying, you know, I don't want government to mess with my healthcare and don't you dare touch my Medicare. Right, right. It's just like- And that's, again, the balance there between, so what do people mean? And I think to me, it's more, there's the insurance part of it.

And then there is, they want the government in the examining room with me with my doctor. You know, it's that kind of thing. And our system is so complicated. And I don't know how, is there a way for us to sort of at least put the buckets out there so that people have a better understanding? Because clearly politics influences our health in so many ways.

And then there is, they want the government in the examining room with me with my doctor. You know, it's that kind of thing. And our system is so complicated. And I don't know how, is there a way for us to sort of at least put the buckets out there so that people have a better understanding? Because clearly politics influences our health in so many ways.

And everybody always thinks with doctors and stuff, But as we know from our research, it's housing, right? Just housing availability. It's nutrition availability. It's education. It's where you put the incinerator, right, in which neighborhood.

And everybody always thinks with doctors and stuff, But as we know from our research, it's housing, right? Just housing availability. It's nutrition availability. It's education. It's where you put the incinerator, right, in which neighborhood.