Clarence Jones

turn to you guys, maybe you have a sense of how that access to care is determined. So let me ask this question.

turn to you guys, maybe you have a sense of how that access to care is determined. So let me ask this question.

Yeah, no, I think it's gotten extremely more complicated. And part of that, I mean, all these things change within Within health care, there's been lots of progress. And so it kind of the scaffold, you know, the building keeps getting higher and it gets more and more complicated. So the answer is yes. What we haven't, you know, again, this is my perspective.

Yeah, no, I think it's gotten extremely more complicated. And part of that, I mean, all these things change within Within health care, there's been lots of progress. And so it kind of the scaffold, you know, the building keeps getting higher and it gets more and more complicated. So the answer is yes. What we haven't, you know, again, this is my perspective.

This is not, you know, my physician hat, but just as a citizen hat, is that what we've seen is extreme polarization within the political world. And as a result of that, and this is the thing that upsets me the most, is sort of that polarization then would weaponize things in health. And I'll just use the whole vaccine piece when COVID came out.

This is not, you know, my physician hat, but just as a citizen hat, is that what we've seen is extreme polarization within the political world. And as a result of that, and this is the thing that upsets me the most, is sort of that polarization then would weaponize things in health. And I'll just use the whole vaccine piece when COVID came out.

And part of the thing that's more upsetting to me is understanding that in science and research, you come up with a theory or a hypothesis and you test it out. And most of the time, the things that we do for preventive health, we have to test it out and see if it works. And there are some things that we're right about, and there are other things that we're wrong.

And part of the thing that's more upsetting to me is understanding that in science and research, you come up with a theory or a hypothesis and you test it out. And most of the time, the things that we do for preventive health, we have to test it out and see if it works. And there are some things that we're right about, and there are other things that we're wrong.

And we expect that that's going to evolve over time. And what I've seen in politics is sort of trying to make it so simple for everybody by thinking that everything that you do is going to be that way forever. And we know that things evolve and change all the time. And that's not a weakness of the system.

And we expect that that's going to evolve over time. And what I've seen in politics is sort of trying to make it so simple for everybody by thinking that everything that you do is going to be that way forever. And we know that things evolve and change all the time. And that's not a weakness of the system.

That's actually a strength of the system because we're continually looking for a better way to do things. And it's not only within our communities, it's more on a a global basis. I mean, it's looking out that from a health perspective, what things have worked in other places.

That's actually a strength of the system because we're continually looking for a better way to do things. And it's not only within our communities, it's more on a a global basis. I mean, it's looking out that from a health perspective, what things have worked in other places.

That's the, that's the, you know, the, the piece to me is how, you know, something that should be for the benefit of, our entire population. And I'll just say, if you're a citizen of Minnesota, you're entitled to this. And when things get weaponized, it tends to divide people more and then you lose the ability to have a civil conversation about things and to reach agreement.

That's the, that's the, you know, the, the piece to me is how, you know, something that should be for the benefit of, our entire population. And I'll just say, if you're a citizen of Minnesota, you're entitled to this. And when things get weaponized, it tends to divide people more and then you lose the ability to have a civil conversation about things and to reach agreement.

It's just like people get on each side and they're just fighting each other instead of tackling you know, the issues, because I think at our core, you know, don't we care about the good of our communities?

It's just like people get on each side and they're just fighting each other instead of tackling you know, the issues, because I think at our core, you know, don't we care about the good of our communities?

I would think that we do, but how do we break through all that posturing and the polarization that, like I say, if I... If I could come up with the secret sauce, or if you can, that would be a good thing.

I would think that we do, but how do we break through all that posturing and the polarization that, like I say, if I... If I could come up with the secret sauce, or if you can, that would be a good thing.

Yeah. So I guess where I would... My big takeaway on this is really more an increased awareness level that... to try and be a bit more reflective in understanding that the connections between politics and health are complicated and they're ubiquitous. It impacts so many different... It's all part of this very complex web and you can't divorce...

Yeah. So I guess where I would... My big takeaway on this is really more an increased awareness level that... to try and be a bit more reflective in understanding that the connections between politics and health are complicated and they're ubiquitous. It impacts so many different... It's all part of this very complex web and you can't divorce...