Clarence Jones

I agree with you, Stan. I remember Mill. Mill was one of those programs that came in. I remember some people that were a part of that. And I hadn't thought about that in a long time. Me either. About taking a look at... prepping people before they have children.

I agree with you, Stan. I remember Mill. Mill was one of those programs that came in. I remember some people that were a part of that. And I hadn't thought about that in a long time. Me either. About taking a look at... prepping people before they have children.

I mean, they didn't decide that they wanted to have a child, you know, to let them know what some of the, some of the necessities are like, what was that, folic acid and all that kind of stuff. I mean, you know, we don't even talk about that. You know, it's just, people just have a baby. Yeah.

I mean, they didn't decide that they wanted to have a child, you know, to let them know what some of the, some of the necessities are like, what was that, folic acid and all that kind of stuff. I mean, you know, we don't even talk about that. You know, it's just, people just have a baby. Yeah.

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Yeah. You know, this is really a very important topic for a lot of people. I was looking at some of the research that one of my colleagues did, and what they said was that in 2021, only 19 states met the Healthy People's 2030 target of 5.0 infant deaths or less per 1,000 live births. So we have a lot of states that have a lot of infant deaths beyond 5,000. I know it was big, but that's a lot.

Yeah. You know, this is really a very important topic for a lot of people. I was looking at some of the research that one of my colleagues did, and what they said was that in 2021, only 19 states met the Healthy People's 2030 target of 5.0 infant deaths or less per 1,000 live births. So we have a lot of states that have a lot of infant deaths beyond 5,000. I know it was big, but that's a lot.

I'm going to just say, Stan, it's too late for me. I'm not going to have any more. But I do want to know about community. I want to know, Michelle, what are you doing or how is the community being included or involved in this issue? around infant mentality. I know that you give money out to different programs, but those are programs, but community engagement, what's that about?

I'm going to just say, Stan, it's too late for me. I'm not going to have any more. But I do want to know about community. I want to know, Michelle, what are you doing or how is the community being included or involved in this issue? around infant mentality. I know that you give money out to different programs, but those are programs, but community engagement, what's that about?

That's interesting because that seems to be a trend that's happening with a lot of different organizations where they're asking for community input. And I think it's long overdue, especially when we've been talking about this issue for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. So thank you for that information.

That's interesting because that seems to be a trend that's happening with a lot of different organizations where they're asking for community input. And I think it's long overdue, especially when we've been talking about this issue for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. So thank you for that information.

So I'm going to do my comments, Stan. Okay. Michelle started off this conversation by talking about how complex it was. And I'm the first person to agree to say that this is a very, very complex issue. And it's one in which I know that the future of our country depends on the health of our children. And I was trying to find that quote that said that. But this is one of those...

So I'm going to do my comments, Stan. Okay. Michelle started off this conversation by talking about how complex it was. And I'm the first person to agree to say that this is a very, very complex issue. And it's one in which I know that the future of our country depends on the health of our children. And I was trying to find that quote that said that. But this is one of those...

seemingly never-ending issues in our country that we need to address and i think that as a country you know in many cases we're supposed to be number one in so many different things uh we continuously show that we're not in some cases doing the kind of work that we need to do and so i'm encouraged to i'm encouraged that there are people out there and organizations out there that are actually trying to address this issue and i just know that uh having uh having children

seemingly never-ending issues in our country that we need to address and i think that as a country you know in many cases we're supposed to be number one in so many different things uh we continuously show that we're not in some cases doing the kind of work that we need to do and so i'm encouraged to i'm encouraged that there are people out there and organizations out there that are actually trying to address this issue and i just know that uh having uh having children

I know what the impact of that is. I know the emotional impact of that is on families, you know, on communities. And, you know, it's just very, very important that we as a community at least begin to look at these things. So those are my thoughts.

I know what the impact of that is. I know the emotional impact of that is on families, you know, on communities. And, you know, it's just very, very important that we as a community at least begin to look at these things. So those are my thoughts.

Clarence. Well, first of all, let me thank both of you for being here. It was funny. I printed off the papers of the research that our researchers was doing. And I've never had one so thick as it was like, what? But anyway, thank you for that. I think I'm excited about this because I have been a caregiver of a caregiver. And I kind of use that terminology because it was stressful for me.

Clarence. Well, first of all, let me thank both of you for being here. It was funny. I printed off the papers of the research that our researchers was doing. And I've never had one so thick as it was like, what? But anyway, thank you for that. I think I'm excited about this because I have been a caregiver of a caregiver. And I kind of use that terminology because it was stressful for me.