Clarence Jones

My question to you is this, and you talked about the fact that sometimes people come in at the later stages of their disease. Do you think people do not utilize hospice because of the cost?

My question to you is this, and you talked about the fact that sometimes people come in at the later stages of their disease. Do you think people do not utilize hospice because of the cost?

Well, do they know that? I mean, that's the question. Do they know that? I mean, because a lot of times- Because people are unaware. That's why I think this program is going to be so helpful. Because they're unaware of exactly what does that mean. A lot of times there's not that information or access to people that can accurately describe what's going on. Because people will say, well, it's over.

Well, do they know that? I mean, that's the question. Do they know that? I mean, because a lot of times- Because people are unaware. That's why I think this program is going to be so helpful. Because they're unaware of exactly what does that mean. A lot of times there's not that information or access to people that can accurately describe what's going on. Because people will say, well, it's over.

So people have their own emotional conversation about this. So I'm just asking, you know, Two weeks, I mean, that sounds like a family has gone through a lot. Yes. And I'm thinking, like, is it cost? Is it just an emotional thing? I don't know. I'm just asking that question. I just wanted to answer.

So people have their own emotional conversation about this. So I'm just asking, you know, Two weeks, I mean, that sounds like a family has gone through a lot. Yes. And I'm thinking, like, is it cost? Is it just an emotional thing? I don't know. I'm just asking that question. I just wanted to answer.

Yeah. Okay, so families are saying, yeah, I wish I would have got them in there earlier, but do they say why they didn't get them in there earlier? Because I think that for me is, I wish I would have done that. There has to be some kind of barrier.

Yeah. Okay, so families are saying, yeah, I wish I would have got them in there earlier, but do they say why they didn't get them in there earlier? Because I think that for me is, I wish I would have done that. There has to be some kind of barrier.

And the only reason why I'm asking that question is this, is that, you know, I think this is, I'm more seasoned now, so this is much more of a relevant topic for me as well. But I think that there's something that people are not getting.

And the only reason why I'm asking that question is this, is that, you know, I think this is, I'm more seasoned now, so this is much more of a relevant topic for me as well. But I think that there's something that people are not getting.

Yeah, let me say, because I love this conversation. This is why this is called Health Chatter, okay? Yeah, we're all chattering away. Yeah, we're chatting now. Okay. Because I think that part of what you said, I mean, the 500% overestimation, that's big. I mean, is it that the doctors are overestimating their patients? Their work, I mean, what they can do. I mean, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, let me say, because I love this conversation. This is why this is called Health Chatter, okay? Yeah, we're all chattering away. Yeah, we're chatting now. Okay. Because I think that part of what you said, I mean, the 500% overestimation, that's big. I mean, is it that the doctors are overestimating their patients? Their work, I mean, what they can do. I mean, you know what I'm saying?

I mean, as a doctor, you want to be able to say like, hey, you know, I had a patient come in and we were able to help them to get to this level. We helped them to get healed. That's really, I love that you entered this conversation. But I think that that's something that, you know, I'm going to ponder about.

I mean, as a doctor, you want to be able to say like, hey, you know, I had a patient come in and we were able to help them to get to this level. We helped them to get healed. That's really, I love that you entered this conversation. But I think that that's something that, you know, I'm going to ponder about.

I mean, it's a struggle for everybody. I mean, as you just said, Sam talked about the fact is that he or she wants the person to live. The family has dynamics. The patient has dynamics. And so when you get to this point of talking about hospice and hospice care or end of life kind of conversations, you have to be exposed to

I mean, it's a struggle for everybody. I mean, as you just said, Sam talked about the fact is that he or she wants the person to live. The family has dynamics. The patient has dynamics. And so when you get to this point of talking about hospice and hospice care or end of life kind of conversations, you have to be exposed to

to the variables and not have a fixed mindset on this is how it's going to be. And that's why I, that's why I pushed.

to the variables and not have a fixed mindset on this is how it's going to be. And that's why I, that's why I pushed.

Let me interject real quickly here again, okay? I'm in a probing mode here. I'm in a probing mode here, okay? When you talk about being culturally competent, I mean, you know, I think that question should be asked to everybody. Because just because a person looks like you does not mean that they think the same way that you do. Exactly.

Let me interject real quickly here again, okay? I'm in a probing mode here. I'm in a probing mode here, okay? When you talk about being culturally competent, I mean, you know, I think that question should be asked to everybody. Because just because a person looks like you does not mean that they think the same way that you do. Exactly.