Clarence

But I understand that that is because of the level of, uh, that they might be feeling at that time, or it might be the fact that they can't fully express how they're feeling. Because I think a lot of times when people are in that space, people want you to tell them exactly what you're feeling, so they push you. you know, to say like, well, so how are you really, really feeling?

But I understand that that is because of the level of, uh, that they might be feeling at that time, or it might be the fact that they can't fully express how they're feeling. Because I think a lot of times when people are in that space, people want you to tell them exactly what you're feeling, so they push you. you know, to say like, well, so how are you really, really feeling?

You know what I mean? It's like, I really don't know how I'm feeling. I'm just at this place of transition and I'm just trying to figure it out for myself.

You know what I mean? It's like, I really don't know how I'm feeling. I'm just at this place of transition and I'm just trying to figure it out for myself.

And so I think that the whole idea about grief is that you have to really be able to, not only to articulate for yourself how you're feeling, but you also have to give people the opportunity to be able to share how they're really feeling or not share how they're really feeling because they really don't know how they're feeling.

And so I think that the whole idea about grief is that you have to really be able to, not only to articulate for yourself how you're feeling, but you also have to give people the opportunity to be able to share how they're really feeling or not share how they're really feeling because they really don't know how they're feeling.

I'm going to say something real quick, Stan, because it's kind of funny. But the first time I can remember having real grief was when my goldfish Goldie died. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like that little goldfish. I remember I set him up in a little special place on top of the cabinet and everything like that. I kept feeding him because I liked him so much.

I'm going to say something real quick, Stan, because it's kind of funny. But the first time I can remember having real grief was when my goldfish Goldie died. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I like that little goldfish. I remember I set him up in a little special place on top of the cabinet and everything like that. I kept feeding him because I liked him so much.

And then one day I got up and Goldie was floating upside down. Yeah. That wrecked my little life, you know, because I thought like, you know, Goldie, you know, I gave you everything that I could. Unfortunately, I gave him too much. And so for me, you know, it sounds funny. But at that but at the same time, it was a it was a first feeling of expression of of loss.

And then one day I got up and Goldie was floating upside down. Yeah. That wrecked my little life, you know, because I thought like, you know, Goldie, you know, I gave you everything that I could. Unfortunately, I gave him too much. And so for me, you know, it sounds funny. But at that but at the same time, it was a it was a first feeling of expression of of loss.

So I but I do remember that very, very clearly.

So I but I do remember that very, very clearly.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And I was going to say that, Sam. I mean, I think you bring up a good point is that when people are going through this particular phase of their life, there has to be or there could be some conversations about how do you get through it. You just mentioned the whole idea about taking a walk. I just believe that when you identify that you are in that particular phase,

Yeah, yeah. And I was going to say that, Sam. I mean, I think you bring up a good point is that when people are going through this particular phase of their life, there has to be or there could be some conversations about how do you get through it. You just mentioned the whole idea about taking a walk. I just believe that when you identify that you are in that particular phase,

And I don't think anybody is happy about being that phase. I think you're looking for ways in which to be able to address it. And I think that's why these kinds of conversations are so important and so helpful is that we're trying to acknowledge the fact that this is a real part of life, that all of us go through it, whether we recognize it or not in some kind of way.

And I don't think anybody is happy about being that phase. I think you're looking for ways in which to be able to address it. And I think that's why these kinds of conversations are so important and so helpful is that we're trying to acknowledge the fact that this is a real part of life, that all of us go through it, whether we recognize it or not in some kind of way.

But when we are at this place that we could take some actions in order to be able to get through it, in a more healthy manner. And I think that's what health chat is about. We're just trying to figure out how do we get through these things in a much more healthier manner.

But when we are at this place that we could take some actions in order to be able to get through it, in a more healthy manner. And I think that's what health chat is about. We're just trying to figure out how do we get through these things in a much more healthier manner.