Clarence

Clarence, go ahead.

Well, you know what I think is interesting is that when you talk to people, I mean, even when I take a look at myself, I talk about retirement.

Retirement is not what I really fantasized.

You know what I mean?

You know, you think like, OK, well, when I retire, you know what, I'm going to do this, this and this and this.

But I think that it's important to, as we kind of talked about a little bit earlier, it's important to have other passions and things that you like to do because I think that very few of us really live the kind of retirement that we think we're going to get.

You know, when time comes, life happens.

And so, you know, Barry was mentioning all those various things that go on in our life.

And so you have to be somewhat flexible with retirement with the idea that there are some core things that you should have in place for this.

um who who you might be living with okay does that does that ring a bell with anybody it definitely rings a bell with me i uh i remember when um uh i retired my wife and i even doing our marriage i mean we had a um uh we had both very very busy lives and so when i retired uh um

There was a different kind of expectation, you know, in terms of our relationship.

You know, since I'm around the house, I could do a little bit more of this and that, that kind of thing.

And then she retired.

And then what was interesting for me in terms of retirement, especially as it relates to relationships, is that in retirement, you have to still learn how to communicate with each other.

And I remember that my wife was in professional sports.

I was into the community health.

And it was like two ships passing in the night when it came to talking about who we're interested in and those kinds of things.

And so what we had to do was she eventually

took some courses so that we can communicate better.

And it's funny.