Clarence

I think one of the things that you said was that your father never knew

Do you think he experienced it at a different level as a father?

He probably got it, but it didn't look the same way as it did for you, but it had the same kind of impact because it probably helped him or probably shaped him in how he dealt with the whole issue.

I just want to ask that question.

That's the best that they had back then.

So I want to follow up with that too, because I think what you're saying is so powerful, okay?

Because I think a lot of times kids, young people, when they go through those kinds of experiences, they blame it.

Yes.

Those parents.

And they just say like, you know, yes, you know, there's no forgiveness in that, but what you're saying is that, you know, sometimes you don't have the, the knowledge that,

They do the very best that they can at times.

So here's the thing, though.

Right.

I agree with you.

In fact, trauma is one of the things that's often mentioned in terms of community conversations.

But I don't necessarily always think that trauma is fully understood.

You know, I think it's experienced, but it's not truly understood enough in the way to address it.

You know, because in some communities, it's just like, suck it up, it's just normal.

You know, this is the way the system works.

So, you know, you have to figure out ways to navigate through those kinds of things.