Clas Svahn

Yeah, yeah, it is.

And it's been that for many years.

And the thing is about Hessdalen, even though most of the things you see are lights in the sky,

If you talk to the people there, they can tell you ordinary UFO stories as well with crafts and sometimes even beings.

Yeah.

We were there and it was not, it was very easy to tell that an extremely high percentage of people that lived there had experienced things like upwards of 80, 85, 90% of people.

And that was all of the report and everybody had family members and they'd experienced things.

It was ubiquitous pretty much.

Yeah.

You could almost flip the percentages in any other place where if you were to poll people, they would say, you know, maybe 10, 15% would be open about, you know, it would be, it's the opposite in Hessel and you're the, you're the pariah if you haven't seen a UFO or something.

I mean, we knocked doors and talked to 1,600 Swedes and 10% of them had seen something.

That's remarkable.

It was only one of them who didn't want to talk with us.

The other ones were very open.

Okay.

And the interesting thing is that we have 22,000 case files from Sweden here at AFU.

Yeah.

And presumably 1 million Swedes, 10% of around 11 million have seen something.

Wow.

And last night I talked with a lady who wrote me a letter.