Clas Svahn

What is this, Brown and Burrage?

Townsend Brown.

Yeah.

I went to Eureka in California.

I met with this guy in his garage.

We packed it all together and sent it back to Sweden.

Behind you here is the oldest UFO group in the world, Borderland Science Research Association.

What?

There's something very interesting about them.

They were new more than intelligence in certain cases in the 40s.

In this episode, we go over a half century of overlooked evidence.

Radar tracked objects executing impossible right angle turns.

Military helicopters nearly colliding with wingless craft.

Sonar and radar returns.

and of course, covert European UFO crash retrieval operations.

we discuss the Swedish ghost rocket craze of the 1940s, a swarm of at least 1,400 documented rocket and cigar-shaped UFOs descending on Norway and Sweden, never landing on the ground, always plunging into water, a swarm that even caused the Swedish government to form a specialized military unit and American President Eisenhower to send his top general, James Doolittle, to investigate.

Klaus von isn't just an archivist.

He's a field investigator in his own right, interviewing experiencers and witnesses at the very center of UFO history.

He spent a lot of time with Betty Hill of the famous Barney and Betty Hill 1961 abduction case in New Hampshire.

Everybody knows about this canonical abduction story, but Kloss dug a little deeper and found out that Betty, outside of her abduction, witnessed a UFO crash near her home.