Claude Walker

But the point is that all of those people, whether as individuals or in an ETF that's an ethical ETF, is they're basically drawing the link between what they're doing to make profits and, you know, their own and them caring about that.

Whereas other people would take the, you know, the perspective that,

It doesn't matter how those profits were achieved.

I'll just be happy with them anyway.

Now, as it happens, if you take that definition, I actually think most people are ethical investors to a degree, right?

So most people who wouldn't consider themselves ethical investors, they still would not invest in something that they knew to be fraudulent, that they were going to like, there's going to be a victim, you know,

The money was to go and do some sort of crime.

Like, hey, you know, mate, you give me money.

And, you know, that's how a drug deal works, right?

Someone's providing the money and then they're going to do all this criminal activity.

Most people wouldn't do that.

And for some of them, I guess, it's because they're scared of getting caught.

But I would dare say for a majority of people, like, actually the reason that they never wanted to do, you know, heroin deals or whatever is because they just think they don't want... They think that's bad and they're against it, you know?

So...

I think in a sense, the majority of people are ethical investors.

It's just that everybody decides for themselves how much they're going to let their ethics impact their investment decisions.

Yeah, for sure.

So I think, obviously, sites like Rask have great resources here as well.

But basically, a first step is to...

you know try to define for yourself like what you want to be investing in and what you don't want to be investing in and for me for example i think it's probably easiest to talk about myself like for me that changed as i got older as well um when i was younger i like actively was like i must be investing in in clean tech like that's the only thing i want to invest in basically um and then as i got older