Claudia Oshry

And then the second time was actually quite recently.

And they're getting really smart, these scammers.

Especially with AI.

So Ben for Spritz, they have like a lot of regional...

in all different states and they get gift cards every month to cover Spritz expenses like gas and whatever.

And so one of them like texted like, hey, sorry, texting from my wife's phone.

Like, can you send whatever?

And Ben was, I don't believe, I don't remember if he actually sent it, but they literally knew that Ben, he was like, hey, is this Ben from Spritz?

Like the scammers are like smart.

It's really frightening.

Yeah.

So,

Knock wood, I haven't fallen prey.

And I'm like a very savvy person, but I still get close sometimes.

So you can only imagine how Jen Chow's victims were feeling.

Like they were old, elderly veterans.

Like seriously, she's a disgrace.

Do you always, do you feel like, well, that happens a lot on Housewives where it's like they become famous and become even more criminal.

It's like, girl, more people are watching you now.

Exactly.