Claudia Oshry
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
culture shattering type of way.
And it must be like devastating to like constantly be going through that.
And just for people to be like, I don't like it as much as dance, dance, just dance.
It's like, okay.
And I just feel like she's never emotionally recovered from art pop.
Oh, that's funny.
I don't feel like she's ever emotionally recovered from Joanne.
I feel like an art pop wasn't even bad.
It was just like, nothing could really follow up.
Oh, and I guess born this way followed up, but like,
art pop just didn't do what she wanted it to do.
And I feel like that feeling has just clouded, sort of like Taylor and Rep.
Yeah, but Reputation was received very well.
But it didn't get nominated in the way that she wanted it to.
Well, so how are we measuring success?
Because Taylor, up until that point, Reputation was her most sold album.
So it didn't have the Grammy recognition, but I think culturally it freed her from the prison her and Kanye put themselves in.