Claudine Ebeid

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Well, just to remind listeners, Marwan is 61 years old. He's a father and a grandfather. And he and his family were living in the north of Gaza, which was where Israel first launched its retaliatory attack to the October 7 attacks. So five days into the war, under Israeli airstrikes, Marwan, his adult children, and two of his granddaughters, they flee the north on foot to the south of Gaza.

Well, just to remind listeners, Marwan is 61 years old. He's a father and a grandfather. And he and his family were living in the north of Gaza, which was where Israel first launched its retaliatory attack to the October 7 attacks. So five days into the war, under Israeli airstrikes, Marwan, his adult children, and two of his granddaughters, they flee the north on foot to the south of Gaza.

Well, just to remind listeners, Marwan is 61 years old. He's a father and a grandfather. And he and his family were living in the north of Gaza, which was where Israel first launched its retaliatory attack to the October 7 attacks. So five days into the war, under Israeli airstrikes, Marwan, his adult children, and two of his granddaughters, they flee the north on foot to the south of Gaza.

And then last summer, like almost 100,000 other Palestinians, he decides to flee once more, but this time from Gaza to Egypt.

And then last summer, like almost 100,000 other Palestinians, he decides to flee once more, but this time from Gaza to Egypt.

And then last summer, like almost 100,000 other Palestinians, he decides to flee once more, but this time from Gaza to Egypt.

Many people fled to Egypt in this little sliver of a window where the border was open and people planned to get out through basically this company, this Egyptian company charging $5,000 for an adult and $2,500 for a child to get people out. So, you know, it's not an altruistic endeavor. Yeah. Ultimately, there were two reasons that really pushed Marwan to leave.

Many people fled to Egypt in this little sliver of a window where the border was open and people planned to get out through basically this company, this Egyptian company charging $5,000 for an adult and $2,500 for a child to get people out. So, you know, it's not an altruistic endeavor. Yeah. Ultimately, there were two reasons that really pushed Marwan to leave.

Many people fled to Egypt in this little sliver of a window where the border was open and people planned to get out through basically this company, this Egyptian company charging $5,000 for an adult and $2,500 for a child to get people out. So, you know, it's not an altruistic endeavor. Yeah. Ultimately, there were two reasons that really pushed Marwan to leave.

From the professional side, he was starting to get pressure, counsel, counsel I think is the right word, from his boss that if he could get out, he should because his work was really valuable to them and they needed him alive. Oof.

From the professional side, he was starting to get pressure, counsel, counsel I think is the right word, from his boss that if he could get out, he should because his work was really valuable to them and they needed him alive. Oof.