Cleo Pascal

And then, if you look at those terms, Chinese Communist Party, there's a word in there, communist, that isn't in the Indian Republic's name.

So, I think it's not necessary that a rising country is going to attack another one.

I think this is something innate within the system that has been governing the land of China.

Does it look like they put the journalists on the Osprey?

Is that what they did?

Because it sort of justifies this thing that, you know, anybody tries to challenge us, it's a kind of destiny thing, and it's nothing to do with the actual systems themselves.

And so you don't have to look at China as a system or as a regime, the nature of the regime.

You can just say, oh, well, you know, it's history, and there just happened to be this rising power.

It's similar to this kind of reverse opium war thing that I—

I also don't like—it's very effective narrative warfare on the Chinese side, because it pulls you away from thinking about the actual dynamics.

But, you know, in terms of the fentanyl being revenge for the opium war, first of all, the U.S.

wasn't involved in the opium war.

Second of all, the opium war was wrong.

And so it's sort of like saying we have slavery in Xinjiang because you had slavery in the U.S.

at some point.

Two wrongs definitely do not make a right.

And third, it gives this narrative warfare weapon to give them a pass and at the same time hit back at the U.S.

I think they use different aspects of unrestricted warfare, depending on what works.

So, for example, in the case of—you don't see the sort of fentanyl flood in the U.K.

that you do here in the U.S., but what you do see is a buying up of elites, including the think tank community, that's giving rise to a situation where, for example, the Diego Garcia military base is coming under risk.