Cliff Sims

It's quite a setup out here, man.

It's something else.

We were doing a little tour around the room before I got in here, and I felt bad because I didn't bring anything good.

Now I feel like when I leave, I've got to find something that goes on this wall.

I've got a couple of things in mind.

Well, there's a personal story behind all of the things, too.

That's what I like about it.

It's not just like, you know, that's a cool artifact.

It's like, well, there's a personal story behind that, you know?

Former Blackwater guys that got pardoned, you know?

Yeah.

Things like that, they go around the room, and it's like, man, somebody, something meaningful to somebody's life here, not just historically.

So it's a nonprofit policy organization focused on national security.

It's founded by some former Trump administration folks.

Interesting, interesting.

Yeah, Matt, it's a great question.

It's the defining question of our time in a lot of ways.

I mean, one of the things that I realized in the office of the Director of National Intelligence and seeing all that intelligence coming in and

There's no question China wants to dominate the globe militarily, technologically, economically.

They want to knock us off our perch.