Cliff Sims

who focuses on trade policy, who is saying that, yes.

So her explanation was that I had basically spent all of my time looking at national security and not economic security.

And she made a delineation between the two things and said that because I'd been looking at national security information, I did not understand that China economically

wants to follow the rules, even if they color outside the lines in the national security side of things.

I mean, it was just like this very tortured explanation from her end.

Wow.

Yeah.

So call them an enemy.

Call them an enemy is number one.

And secondly, I think we've also got to be willing to call out people in our own country who are undermining American national security interests to further their own economic means.

There's a lot of money to be made in China.

There has been over the last couple of decades.

And we think about things like, let's take Sequoia Capital, for instance, one of the largest venture capital firms in America, legendary venture capital firm.

They taught the Chinese how to do venture capital, and they set up Sequoia China over there.

Now, because the political dynamic has gotten a little hot over the last couple of years, they broke off Sequoia China, now where it's a separate thing instead of inside of the same company.

But you have to understand that Americans built the Chinese economy.

Up until only about three years ago, military men and women in this country who put money into their retirement, the Thrift Savings Plan, you probably got a Thrift Savings Plan.

I was too dumb to sign up for that.

Just being honest.

A lot of members of the military and government workers are putting their money into the Thrift Savings Plan.