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Cliff Sims

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1691 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

And actually, I was standing in the West Wing one day with the president's military aide, and I jokingly said, let me hold that thing for a minute.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

And to my surprise, he let me.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

Are you serious?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

So for about five seconds, I held a 45-pound nuclear football at my side.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

And so I've experienced what it feels like to hold the nuclear football.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

But before anybody freaks out that I, for five seconds, had the fate of the world in my hands, a lot of what's inside the nuclear football remains classified.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

But what I can say is there isn't a giant red button

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

in there that you just crack it open and like boom and we go to nuclear war.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

The purpose, first and foremost, is to verify the president's identity.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

So everywhere the president goes, he carries with him a little laminated card called the biscuit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

And on the biscuit, there are codes that are his verification codes for his identity.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

So in the event where there was an emergency where the nuclear football gets cracked open, the first thing that happens is communications are opened up to the National Military Command Center, and the president verifies his identity with the codes that are on the biscuit.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

Then from there, I have heard it described in media as a Waffle House menu of pre-planned nuclear strike options.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

So you can imagine a bunch of different options of pre-planned nuclear strike options.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

The scariest thing that I've learned about it all is...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

One researcher estimated that there may only be a six- to seven-minute window in which the president would have to make a decision about what to do if someone were to have launched a nuclear strike on the United States.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

And the scariest of all potential nuclear strikes is what we call a bolt-out-of-the-blue strike, which is there hasn't been anything kind of leading up to this moment at all.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

There haven't been rising tensions that led to this moment.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

This is just an out-of-nowhere situation.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#136 Cliff Sims - White House Myths, Doomsday Bunkers and Holding the Nuclear Football

somebody with nuclear weapons just launches it out of the clear blue sky one day and we're suddenly confronted with there's a nuclear missile flying toward the United States right now.