Cliff Sims

And right now, the government that we have in place is trying to impose a tyranny of the mind on millions of Americans, and including the government workers who work in this government, who don't want to abide by things like calling a man a woman that is not a woman.

And they are being forced to decide, am I just going to

go along to get along because I've got a family to feed.

And these are tough choices.

I'm not casting blame on the people who do just put their head down and don't have the means to fight those kind of things, that they're just a career government employee and they're making ends meet every month and they got to decide whether they're going to take a stand on stuff like this or not.

In the Trump administration, things like that would never happen.

The president would never have allowed people to be...

tyrannized in that way.

And yet he's the one that they try to say is an authoritarian wannabe.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know, but it's really one of those things where I, in retrospect,

more than in the moment that I am able to look back and say, I lost something there.

So in the moment, I mean, one of the things I've found in life is very few people think they're a bad person or think they're doing a bad thing.

Most people rationalize the decisions they make, even the bad decisions,

with something.

And so I had a million rationalizations for why I would stab a colleague in the back to maintain access.

I'm giving him better advice.

They're trying to give him the wrong advice.

I'm trying to do the right thing for the president.

I'm trying to do the right thing for the country.