Cliff Sims

The other thing is getting blocked from going to take this amazing dream job at the State Department was that the book that I wrote that made me wrestle with a lot of these things never would have happened.

The lawsuit with the president never would have happened, which ended up being a great thing for me to have experienced that for several reasons.

Number one,

The president attacked me on Twitter in the middle of all of that.

And when he tweeted about me, I was actually sitting in a live CNN interview.

And the interviewer said, the president has just tweeted about you.

Would you like for us to read it live on the air?

And the president, you know, he attacked me, whatever.

And the interviewer said, how would you like to respond to that?

What was the tweet?

Cliff Sims, I'm not going to get it exactly right, but this is the gist of it.

Cliff Sims, who I hardly knew, wrote a book with made-up stories and fiction.

He acts like he was an insider, but he was nothing but a gopher.

You know, he was a nobody, you know, that kind of thing.

which in retrospect, shout out to the president for like, I know when his heart's really in wanting to get after somebody and he didn't, I can tell he did it, but he didn't like give it his all.

It could have been much nastier.

He could have been much more hardcore about it.

But the interviewer asked me, what do you, how do you want to respond to that?

And in the moment I said,

My identity is not wrapped up in being a Trump staffer or in anything that the president or anyone says that I am.