Cliff Sims

And Tucker's just not like that.

And it's an anomaly, though.

I'm telling you, it is an anomaly.

You know, I'll tell the folks, Sean Ryan, off camera, great guy.

So this one, see the first one came out in early 2019, and this one has just come out now in summer of 24, so about five years between the two books.

And this one includes, you know, more from the White House experience, but also I had not yet gone to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in the first book.

So this one includes a lot of stories from inside, you know, ODNI and CIA and the intelligence community as well.

So I helped run the confirmation for Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe and helped get him through the Senate.

That was one of the things I did when I was in the White House was kind of a specialty of mine was kind of helping run these confirmation battles in the Senate.

So I did that for him and got really close to him in that process.

And so he gave me the opportunity to come in in that role.

37?

Some of both.

I mean, our technical capabilities

boggle the mind.

The ways that we can acquire information boggles the mind.

Any corner of the globe in any

from human intelligence to SIGINT and the signal side of things and intercepting phone calls and other things to what the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency can do and satellites.

And I mean, it's remarkable, remarkable, our capabilities.

And there were definitely some times when they were just like, holy crap, we are good.