Cliff Sims

Right?

And so, but I'll be honest, we were stunned when we walked in the door, you know, the first day we get there and, you know, the person's kind of onboarding.

He's like, hey, do you want to go and meet the communications team?

And I'm like, well, how many of them could there possibly be here?

Because again, all they can say is we can neither confirm nor deny.

We go downstairs, it's like 25 people on the communications team there.

I'm like, well, no disrespect to anyone here, but what's everybody here do?

You had a couple of speechwriters over here.

You had people that interfaced with the press over there.

You had all that.

I mean, dude, it was crazy.

And really, first kind of insight to like,

this ain't right.

Like we shouldn't have 25 people in here that are press and comms people in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

And so, you know, in the event that there was a press issue that we were dealing with, I would be the one that would have to try to navigate that.

And it's a whole new comms challenge because often you are talking about, you know, I've gotten phone calls from,

major journalistic outfits that somehow found out about something that we may or may not have been involved in.

The Delta raid in Germany?

Whatever that was, something like, I would get very similar inquiries from reporters and then having to navigate those things because sometimes there's still

serious national security implications, but also lives could be at stake.