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Clinical Psychologist

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112 total appearances

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The Protocol
The Beginning

And she found that, you know, while they were still struggling, that, you know, there was still a pretty high risk of suicide in the group. The vast majority of the patients reported feeling happy about their medical transitions. Yeah. And at the same time that Peggy was doing this research, she also had a clinical practice.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And she found that, you know, while they were still struggling, that, you know, there was still a pretty high risk of suicide in the group. The vast majority of the patients reported feeling happy about their medical transitions. Yeah. And at the same time that Peggy was doing this research, she also had a clinical practice.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And she started getting a few referrals for younger patients. who were, you know, 16, 17, and who were saying really similar things as the adult patients, that they had felt they were in the wrong body for as long as they could remember.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And she started getting a few referrals for younger patients. who were, you know, 16, 17, and who were saying really similar things as the adult patients, that they had felt they were in the wrong body for as long as they could remember.

The Protocol
The Beginning

But because they weren't 18, they couldn't get treatment.

The Protocol
The Beginning

But because they weren't 18, they couldn't get treatment.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And, you know, Peggy knew that there was already all this skepticism about treating trans patients at all. And she knew it was going to be way more controversial if she tried to treat these kids who were under 18. Right. Adolescence was known to be this period of great flux and identity exploration. And she knew there would be a lot of skepticism about whether they could make a decision like this.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And, you know, Peggy knew that there was already all this skepticism about treating trans patients at all. And she knew it was going to be way more controversial if she tried to treat these kids who were under 18. Right. Adolescence was known to be this period of great flux and identity exploration. And she knew there would be a lot of skepticism about whether they could make a decision like this.

The Protocol
The Beginning

But she also saw that not every teenager could handle their distress for a prolonged period of time. That having to wait to get medical treatment could lead to the same dire outcomes that she saw in the adults that she'd been working with. So in her mind, if a 16 or a 17-year-old was expressing as much clarity about who they are as an 18-year-old, they should be able to get help.

The Protocol
The Beginning

But she also saw that not every teenager could handle their distress for a prolonged period of time. That having to wait to get medical treatment could lead to the same dire outcomes that she saw in the adults that she'd been working with. So in her mind, if a 16 or a 17-year-old was expressing as much clarity about who they are as an 18-year-old, they should be able to get help.

The Protocol
The Beginning

So she went to the lead endocrinologist overseeing hormone treatments for trans adults in the Netherlands.

The Protocol
The Beginning

So she went to the lead endocrinologist overseeing hormone treatments for trans adults in the Netherlands.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And together, they decide they're going to lower the age that patients can receive hormones from 18 to 16 and actually study it to see if it helps. And what they found was really interesting because… The kids who got hormones were doing better psychologically than the adults they'd been treating.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And together, they decide they're going to lower the age that patients can receive hormones from 18 to 16 and actually study it to see if it helps. And what they found was really interesting because… The kids who got hormones were doing better psychologically than the adults they'd been treating.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And she thought that part of the reason why was because they had what she called, and she wrote this in the paper, a convincing appearance. She wrote that they could more easily pass in society because intervening earlier had managed to block some of the effects of their natal puberty before it had fully set in.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And she thought that part of the reason why was because they had what she called, and she wrote this in the paper, a convincing appearance. She wrote that they could more easily pass in society because intervening earlier had managed to block some of the effects of their natal puberty before it had fully set in.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And so what Peggy was realizing was that puberty was this incredibly critical period in these patients' lives.

The Protocol
The Beginning

And so what Peggy was realizing was that puberty was this incredibly critical period in these patients' lives.

The Protocol
The Beginning

Yeah, and their development, I mean, they're going through these, you know, irreversible changes that will be much harder to undo further down the line. And this was becoming even more clear to her as she started to see younger kids.

The Protocol
The Beginning

Yeah, and their development, I mean, they're going through these, you know, irreversible changes that will be much harder to undo further down the line. And this was becoming even more clear to her as she started to see younger kids.