Clinical Psychologist

And had you met Peggy?

And had you met Peggy?

Well, that's about it. what you went through as an adolescent is still with you. Oh, absolutely.

Well, that's about it. what you went through as an adolescent is still with you. Oh, absolutely.

I guess just this idea of wanting your whole life to blend in and blending in. And there's been such a sea change in views and attitudes towards gender since the 80s. So many of the young people now... want to visibly challenge the binary? And I don't know, what do you make of that? And what do you make of what that means for getting the medical treatment that you pioneered? I mean, you know?

I guess just this idea of wanting your whole life to blend in and blending in. And there's been such a sea change in views and attitudes towards gender since the 80s. So many of the young people now... want to visibly challenge the binary? And I don't know, what do you make of that? And what do you make of what that means for getting the medical treatment that you pioneered? I mean, you know?

Right.

Right.

It's just interesting to me because you were once an adolescent who adults chose to take seriously. Yeah.

It's just interesting to me because you were once an adolescent who adults chose to take seriously. Yeah.

How would you define the Dutch Protocol?

How would you define the Dutch Protocol?