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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
And then she went to run a union, right? Yeah, probably.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
Yeah, I think she went to work for a union. She's the CEO of one of the big unions now.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
I was in the car two hours and 40 minutes going over to that.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
So all you did was just not get in the way.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
Shocking.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
Let me ask you. It's like the Hippocratic Oath. Do no harm. Do no harm. How can mayors address... They come into office with a reform motivation and they're elected on, hey, we don't have what Miami has. We got to fix this. We got to get the city working again. We got to attract business. We got to attract growth. And they inherit this regulatory morass, this massive infrastructure.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
Like San Francisco recently... I got all caught up in the fact that you can't put these phone booths in your office. You know, a lot of startups, I don't know if any of you guys have these, these phone booths, you got to have someone go in and make a call. You put the phone booth in. And all my startups, all the companies I've ever been involved in. Wait, you can't put one in San Francisco?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
So you put these phone booths in and then you can go in and make calls. So when everyone's in an open desk configuration, but you got to do a private call, you hop them in. So everyone loads up their offices with these phone booths. In San Francisco, they're illegal. Turns out that you need to run, and there's a piece of paper, which I was actually going to tweet because it's insane.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
It's like three pages long. All the things you need to know about the phone booths that you want to put in your office. You got to get an architect review, an engineering review, a design review. You got to get sign off from the engineer. You got to submit the permitting fees. It gets reviewed by the city inspector's office. You got to design fire sprinklers that have to go into the phone booth.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
It's nuts. In case there's a fire in the phone booth, someone needs to put out the fire. That's hilarious. So I was talking to some folks about like, what are you going to do about this? But the mayor's kind of like, I don't know if there's enough action that I can take because it's in law that there's all this kind of regulatory stuff.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
How do you advise mayors that are stuck with this sort of an environment? And this is not just San Francisco. There's a lot of big cities in this country that have books and books of this stuff. And we can talk about philosophically why this has happened, sociologically why this has happened. Books and books are the stuff where the city can't get out of the way. What do the mayors do?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Miami Mayor Francis Suarez: The Recipe for Creating America's Happiest City | All-In Live from Miami
And when you guys get together, is there any advice or are we stuck? What's the solution?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Bernie Sanders Rips DC Corruption, The Israel Lobby, & Reveals How Billionaires Buy Politicians
I'm sorry. I do feel like vowing to stop taking super PAC money is a great first step. But also being an honest politician, you put up a bill to stop the sale of weapons to Israel. And there's no amount of money a PAC can spend to not get you reelected. And I feel if we had more honest politicians. Yeah. OK, then courageous ones. Yeah. You're right.
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Bernie Sanders Rips DC Corruption, The Israel Lobby, & Reveals How Billionaires Buy Politicians
I feel like most politicians are swayed by money and lobbyists and that like, I wouldn't say dictates, but it definitely influences their decisions. You feel like one of the last honest politicians. Can you tell me what other politicians have the Bernie stamp of approval that they're like honest? Who's not bought?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Bernie Sanders Rips DC Corruption, The Israel Lobby, & Reveals How Billionaires Buy Politicians
Yeah. Speaking on health care, Trump recently signed an executive order to lower drug prices. How do you feel about that?
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Bernie Sanders Rips DC Corruption, The Israel Lobby, & Reveals How Billionaires Buy Politicians
It's a billion dollar tax break for you. Ask what it's about. Please answer yes. Are you going to run for president?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
The new serial killer to me is the mass shooter. Because it's, to me, very similar. The type, the insecure boy, almost always, who has trouble with women or girls, but feels entitled and is on this power trip. I feel like serial killers have moved into that realm and it's the same type of person.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
They don't even really necessarily want you dead.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, well, that is true. I won't take that from him.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
It is weird because normally women kill themselves. Normally she would have killed herself first before killing everyone else.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Because people don't take them seriously.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But who's going to come up with the degrees? That's very tricky, too. To me, there's some things that are worse. I'm going to get in trouble for just saying that. Worse than others. But there are.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Mm-hmm. And it's a ding, ding, ding from Monday's episode.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
What do you mean? Do you think that he believes that in the moment, right?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, is it like a compulsion and then they feel guilt?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Obviously, it's hard to watch people you know are guilty and you don't have the evidence. But what about the opposite? Is there ever a time where you're like, God, I hope it's the right one?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Well, no, because your middle ground also has a flip, right? Your middle is they're abused, they should serve time, and maybe it's time to let them out.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, that's how I feel. Yeah, they've been in there for 30 years.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
It's all rough. Not good. I guess some people maybe are saying it's good.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. Have you been involved in any penis choppings off?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I don't like not being able to see your eyes.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
God, this is tricky, okay? This is a deep thing.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
You putting that on is going to change your whole personality, right? Right, right. So what do I do if I hate your new personality, but I love you? What happens? What happens?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I mean, really, like people do change over time.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. It's an interesting question.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Uh-huh, to those people? Yeah. That's interesting.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Do you think your personality's changed? Because those are just, those aren't, to me, personality things. They are, we might confuse them as personality things, but those are like some beliefs and some just ways of walking through the world.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yawn fest. You want to do yarn fest?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Is it still for outside? I think it should be.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
That's a great guess. That's not what happened.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I put my, I just grabbed the first clip I saw and put my hair up to do my makeup.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And then when I was done with my makeup, I was about to take it down and I thought, oh, I'll just leave my clip in.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I should have taken one grade out. Accidental perfection. That's right. Okay, so I guess you don't really want to talk too much about personalities.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. Yeah? I did an awesome podcast yesterday called She Pivots.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
It was really fun. Awesome host, Emily Sussman. And she asked me what my personality was like as a kid. Like, was I, I must have been very wanting a lot of attention. Yes, because I went into entertainment.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And could not be further from that. I was so shy.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I did make friends. I did it- But quietly and slowly. Right. I did it in the way I still make friends. Like, I'm not at a party out- Taking huge swings like me. Taking big swings, making, yeah, loud noises and like- Drawing attention. I'm not drawing attention. You know, I hate that. Right. I hate audience participation. And like, Jess is very like you, right? Yeah.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. Yeah. And I love that. Like, I- I do joke with him, though, that the first time I ever met him ever was at one of the Hanson Christmas parties. And he had his shirt off or something. He was doing a dance.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I'm scared of that person. I'm not, but I want distance from that person. Yeah.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. Well, and that's so funny because I obviously have a pattern of thinking like, ah, I'm scared of that. I don't want that near me. And then I... I always find my way towards those people.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Anyway, so I used to be very shy.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Oh, that's a great question. My mom probably misses it because I was probably nicer.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Well, no, I wasn't, but I was stuck to her hip.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, but actually this is probably a lesson for her. She probably didn't like that. She was probably like, can you like go away? No, she never said that to me, but she was probably like, I need some space. I've been working all day and there's this kid here.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. Oh. Well, mainly in public.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I guess. She would describe it as, yeah, it was like always kind of glued to her.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Interesting. It's again, maybe a birth order thing.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Do you think that's a personality change or has that always been there?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Something that you've bragged about recently that I've been excited to bring up. So the cognitive test.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But there was a huge revelation that happened recently. I got my test results back. Hour and a half long with Dr. Richard Isaacson. Fascinating. Fascinating. All the cholesterol stuff. You know, I started my stat and I told you that. All the cholesterol stuff, all the other stuff. Turns out, minus the cholesterol, which is really, really, really bad, but we're working on it. Everything's tip top.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, everything's great. My liver's great, which I was worried about.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, but it's fine. So I can keep powering through.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Then the cognitive test results. And of course, I was very anxious about this part of it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I'm doing horribly. I'm doing horribly. And then when he, and what I didn't even realize, we were taking an IQ test. I didn't realize that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Maybe the kid ones may be different.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Right, that's true. Okay, well, whatever. Anyway, it is what it is. Okay.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
That's my whole thing. Okay. Okay. So he said, cognitive test, don't worry, your cholesterol hasn't affected your brain yet. Or...
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Okay, well, we'll get to that. So you said it hasn't affected your brain yet. You did fantastic. The guy, you know, who evaluates it said words like superior, excellent, wow. So I was just so relieved.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And he said, you did a teeny bit better than your co-host. And I said, yes, that's so exciting. He's been bragging so much.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And he said, well, actually, I don't have the numbers. One of you did a little bit better.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And I said, oh man, well, if it was him, I think this is because of the seahorse and racism.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And there was an Indian man also on the call and I was asking him about seahorses. He also was very hazy.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I had like eight people on my call.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I think I'm a very interesting case. Oh, wow. He did say I'm an interesting case. Okay. Okay. So anyway, while I was commiserating with the Indian man on seahorse sea monkeys, Dr. Isaacson told Holly to pull up our actual numbers.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And when he was doing it, he goes, oh my God. Are you serious?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Holly, are you serious? Is this real? We scored the exact same score.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Nothing. No one's hurt feelings. I know. Yeah. I think my dad did that for us. And obviously we both... I definitely scored differently in parts, but it all added up to the exact same number.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, I will. I wrote it down, but now I forget it. But hold on. I sent it to you.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Okay. Oh, my God. Okay. Our number is...
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
So I told my mom the number. Yeah. And my dad. I was like, good news is my brain is doing well. This, you know, whatever. I explained the whole thing and I was like, this is my score. And my dad was like, yay, that's great. And my mom was like, well, when you were five, you got five points higher than that. Or seven, when I was seven. So I was like, okay, well, she's keeping me humble, you know?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
That was your score. Okay. I don't know what to tell you.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. And actually this is, I wasn't going to say this, but now I'm going to say this based on your reaction. Okay. To me, it's so telling about men and women.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Because I'm taking this test and I'm like, I'm fucking this up. I'm doing so badly. Oh, right. I, oh my God, this is so embarrassing. I'm stupid.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
High. And I think men don't do that as much. Or let's take you who ended up with the exact same score as me.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Because after we, you know, we talked after your test and you didn't think that. I mean, you weren't like, I did amazing, but you weren't. I wasn't.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Right. Right. You did some bragging. Yeah, I didn't feel like you for sure.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. So I just think it's an interesting takeaway of how men and women walk through the world and when they're put through tests, like what is happening in their brains.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Right. As a comp, we got the same score, which is why I can say that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And I wish I could do these things with more confidence. Right. Like, borrow some of that feeling.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
In fact, that's what our fight just now was. You're like, I reject that number. I'm higher than that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yes, so you don't have what you're saying you have. You think you're—you believe and think— You're right.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I don't know. Also, like when a lot of girls are told like, oh, like girls don't score as high on tests or girls aren't good at math or girls aren't X, Y and Z. Right. And so, yeah, I don't I am in there thinking like, well, I mean, it's all subconscious, but it's like, yeah, I can't be very good at this.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Do you think a lot of men feel that way?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
No, I mean, I love my dad, yeah. But no, it's like, it makes me so happy to hear that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I have a disconnect. Why do we stop caring about women after a certain—like, really? I mean, not to be political, but women, I'm going to say for me, just took a big hit. And from men and women, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. So that is so curious to me, how we can like look at these, be so proud of our daughters and, you know, want the best for them. And I believe that. I believe that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I believe that most people want the best for their children and half of their children are girls. Yeah. To me, there's just like a hypocrisy, not you, obviously, but there's a hypocrisy where it's like, I got to protect my family and I got to. And then you don't.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Oh, but I mean more just, well, that too, but also just rights.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
That's my point. That's actually my point, is it was not their concern.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And then we can disagree on what the best route to those people who truly are like, well, again, I, yeah, I, I think there's some misinformation about what would help those people, but they, to those people who really they're in, like, I can't put food on the table. I'm not, I have no judgment of those people. I don't. That's a very specific situation. I am not talking about that group.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
It is, but there's a huge percentage of people that did not vote for women's rights that... do not have trouble putting food on the table and chose to still – again, the most generous thing I can say is chose to pick their tax dollars over –
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
women's rights and that is there is just to me there's a there's a disconnect between the way we think about young girls and then what happens yeah overall I think people just triage their priorities you know I think yeah it's
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Well, everything I cared about, not unfortunately, but belonged to one party. Sure, sure, sure. So I didn't have to make big sacrifices. But let's put it this way.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, just bums me out. I can feel, I can really feel it. I don't know if you can sense this too, but I've been around a lot of women lately. Yeah. And like everyone's in a tough spot.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. You know, you brought this up, and I think it's right, that a lot of men, young boy, young men, feel not seen or not spoken to and— And I really I guess I'm just to our male listeners who are in a position of influence at all. It's on it's on you, not you, but you as a group to help these men. It's if I don't think it's on.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, but I'm saying the way to change the seed, the culture, it happens from within. And we had Sharon on and she was like, it's not that. It's not the government that's going to come in on a white horse and change people's opinions. With a scroll. Exactly. It comes from within. Right.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And I was also thinking about this, speaking of daughters and fathers, Kerala, where my parents are from, is a very matriarchal. society because originally it was the wealth was passed down through the female.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
So there isn't this, like, because I was like, why is it, like, why doesn't my dad have this? And even my grandfather, who was much, you know, of an old generation, he didn't have that at all.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And I was like, what is it? And I was like, oh, it's not that they're, like, special. They didn't grow up in a patriarchal environment. Yeah. And it's for everyone to start moving more forward. Away from that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
You got lucky, but also there's societal things that make it harder or easier. Like when there's equal pay, it's easier to grow up in a household where your parents are equal. Yeah. You know, that's what these systemic things are about. You know, that's why we have to change some of these things because you're absolutely right. It's what you literally are born into.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Maybe for a large swath, but for a woman who has a level of success, a certain level has hit a certain level of success. I don't think that's, they're not looking for someone with more success. That's hard. Like that's really rare and hard to find.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Most of the people in my life are with partners that are 100% on par.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
They're all— working. They're all working and make around the same amount of money.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But why, what's his take on like why it would self-perpetuate? Why can't men get themselves to college anymore?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But I don't think it's that, like, I don't think the sad is that boys are getting rejected from college. It's that they're not going anymore.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, but I mean, I guess... That's an outlier, right? Like trying to get into an Ivy League school. I mean, just a regular public college institution. There's no reason other than from within that group that they shouldn't be able to go. Like that's what I – what is happening? But they can't compete.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Well, I think there literally would be affirmative action for men. I think that if 90% of women, if it was like every school is turning into 95% based on five because of merit.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But and then that gets into is but then why? Because is it then draw more women and draw less men? You know, that whole thing, whatever. There's so many factors to it. But there would definitely be fixes for that. Currently, I don't I just don't know why.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, he's like Golden State Killer. A lot of them.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Well, it's not shocking to me that they're doing better, but it doesn't explain to me why men are just dropping off the map.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
It is a real issue. But in the same way that when we talk about AI here and if I say like, well, I think we should put regulations and you're like, well, we can't because we have to compete with these other countries. They're not going to stop.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yes. So I'm making the same equivalency. Like if we if we said we're not going to be a brain economy. How the fuck are we going to compete with China and India and these other countries that are full brain economy?
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I do, too. But so that that's sort of how do we get those people to hear? Because this is the truth. The party that wants to do that, the party that wants to do free community college to offer retraining and vocational skills is not the party they're voting for. So I don't know how to.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
get those people to understand that what is in their best interest and this country's best interest of that, of actual training that group to be middle class or above. And there is an avenue for that.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But what else did she say? And so we have to retrain. Hillary said retrain. I heard it so many times. Retraining, retraining. And that's correct.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
All right. Here we go. So this is for Matt Murphy.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah. The percentage of DNA that we share with chimps, 98.8%.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Okay, great. Blood alcohol levels. His mom was five and 0.08 is the legal limit. So that's really bad.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
On the Wondery Plus episode, we do a little fact check now for the Wondery Plus episode. So for the Matt Murphy Wondery Plus episode, the facts are a little different. They're the same, but they're different because I found a different fact.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yeah, because in that episode, I said that Kevin Spacey is currently in a play and he's not.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Well, I guess he's set to appear in a movie, Peter 5-8.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
And where he got the standing ovation, it was at a theater in Oxford, which is why I guess I was confused. It says his first stage appearance since being cleared of sexual assault after performing a brief scene by Shakespeare. So he just did a scene. A little one-off. Exactly. He did a five-minute scene.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I guess so. All right. So he's not currently in a play.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
I haven't said it in a while. I love it.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
No, it's fine. Okay, you said 25% of boys are molested-ish. And the last time we talked about this, I was like, yes, I found that stat. Now that stat's gone.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Yes, it's gone. And what's left is one in six. I guess that's this big number. And then there's a site called one in six dot org. Then all these other places are saying one in six. I looked a lot for the other thing and I couldn't find it. And I kept finding one in six.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
But one is data from today and the other is data from last week.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Okay. So are you more likely to be sexually abusive if you were sexually abused? Again, some conflicting info. There's stopitnow.org, which we talked about. Yeah. StopItNow.org says, no, you're not more likely to be. There is a study by the NIH. Among 747 males, the risk of being a perpetrator was positively correlated with reported sexual abuse victim experiences.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
The overall rate of having been a victim was 35% for perpetrators and 11% for non-perpetrators. Of the 96 females, 43% had been victims, but only one was a perpetrator. A high percentage of male subjects abused in childhood by a female relative became perpetrators. Having been a victim was a strong predictor of becoming a perpetrator, as was an index of parental loss in childhood.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Matt Murphy (homicide prosecutor)
Thank you. I rose to the occasion? Yes. It's a rose. Oh, it is. Yeah.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
The engineer, especially, he started busting up, busting my balls.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Oh, where she lied like a mother.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
So what, that was six years ago?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Saying that he's young. You've been married for five years.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I'm trying to make you feel comfortable. Oh, that's the way to go.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
So it's, like, anytime, like, anything even gets close to that, we're, like, looking at him, like, hey, bro. Chill. Chill out. Not too much. Hey, not too much, bro.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I was about to get you with that, I'll be honest. I was about to.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Ladies nuts on your face? Avery, you really thought you were going to get me with that? Come on, bro. Let's get this out.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I wish I could relate, brother.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
No, no, no. We was eating school lunch, homie. That's crazy. So who was your craziest friend? Like craziest as in what?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Look at God. He's like, boom.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
That was a moment. I'm pretty sure this is, like, all fake. Like, what's going on here? He did a Looney Tunes spin. Yeah, what the fuck are these guys doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
And so boom, he kicks my door in and he's got a baseball bat.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I'm like, you ought to just leave. And he goes, all right. He's got a catcher's mitt. You know what I mean? He's like, yo, I thought we were going to play. What the fuck?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Goddamn, cut the tension here with a knife. This is a comedy show.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
He's like, hey, kids, it's me. I bet you thought that I was dead. It was impractical jokers the whole time?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Ashton Kutcher come walking around the corner, he's like, ah. You got punked. You got punked.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think it worked.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
All of them. They support me now, but they can all suck my motherfucking dick, man.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sounds like deadliest cash. That's crazy. Like it was that, like freezing cold in your home.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
In the house. Yeah, for sure, dude. Yeah, definitely.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Like, yo, we got a fridge. Oh, yeah, you can fucking put them in the fucking ice, for sure.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I'm giving him buckets, though, for real.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I had 11 records. I had 11 threes and one. No. In one game, one time. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I think you can't pull up my huddle, but you're only going to see a football clip if somebody pulled up the huddle. Yeah, we really need that. Look me up.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Zoom in on that, bro. Yo, that's hilarious. This kid's fat now. And he's rich, and I think he's living good, too.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Oh, yeah, yeah. I bet that's his favorite.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
We'd be in the back. Everybody in the soccer field was like,
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
You got to try it. For real, dude. You got to try it.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Who's that? Is this all you?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, it's going to be tough.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
It's stock. It's stock.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I want a car here, and I don't have a driver's license. Still? Yeah. Yeah, to this day. But you know how to drive.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I'm just kidding. I don't know.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Yeah. Yeah, buddy. I used to drive one.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I used to ride a Honda Rebel, and I also had a Suzuki Boulevard. The Boulevards are fire.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
He said, what the fuck, kid?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Nah, you're old, bro. You're so old. Are you serious, dude?
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Okay, all right, geez. No, no, no, no, no. It's this guy behind me. This guy's a player. No, no, he just sent me a barber.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
I don't think I'm allowed to say that. No, you can say it. Puerto Rican. Well, doesn't it feel wrong if we say it? You were so proud of yourself. It feels like we're not supposed to be saying it.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
Run me back? Yeah. Ashby again? Nah, he's Puerto Rican.
Camp Gagnon
Tragedy, Crime and Viral Music Superstardom | The HonestAv Story
It looks nice. Okay. This feels femboys. It feels femboys.
Cleared Hot
Episode 387 - Rich Diviney
Yeah. Maybe less than that. Probably less because of what it is.
Cleared Hot
Full Auto Friday - 4/4/2025
All right, people. Here we go. First Q&A of Q2. First Q&A since I shattered my body. Let's see how we do. Three questions for today. Some pretty heavy topics.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You'll find something.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, when you're spending billions of dollars on it and your country's spiraling into debt and then people don't see – the people don't get to vote where their tax money goes, let alone it's going to all these NGOs who are funding all this crazy, crazy subversive – ambiguous shit, like then that gets to be a problem.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Okay, here it is. Dua Lipa and Taylor Swift. Former U.S. official Mike Benz claimed USAID used celebrities to destabilize governments.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Benz claimed the USAID had trained musical artists, including Dua Lipa. Pussy Riot, and possibly Taylor Swift to act as assets in spreading political narratives for statecraft purposes. He suggests that these efforts are part of a broader initiative to influence public opinion and destabilize governments.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Ben said that celebrities who can be trained to spread desired messaging are actively recruited and used as network nodes. He cited NATO-linked incentives. NATO link initiatives and USAID-backed music diplomacy programs as key drivers behind the efforts.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I can see how that could be a slippery slope, though.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, but it's not aid, right? What does it actually stand for?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right. Yeah, that sounds right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
International development.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You got Rand on your resume now?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So so you you're you're you're not actually working for Iran. No, you're doing an educational thing there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Would they consider offering you a job after this? Would you take it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. This whole fifth generation warfare and like population mind control stuff is so, is so strange. And it's so, it seems so like futuristic sci-fi, you know? But like, it seems like it would be really easy to do in today's day and age with all like just the media itself, like how crazy the news cycle is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, I mean, that's the... Did you see this new stuff with the CIA director on this group chat with all these people trying to... I've been following it. Talking about their war plans in Yemen or something? Yeah, yeah. And there's a whole hearing over it with Tulsi Gabbard and the CIA director. And they're saying, oh, no, there's nothing declassified.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It was totally normal for us to hash out these war plans on a WhatsApp group chat or whatever the fuck it was.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
We are going to absolutely forget about this in two weeks.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
There's going to be something completely different.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You would hope that these people are capable of playing 3D chess in that way, but I wonder sometimes if they are.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
We have tons of submarines that can go up into the Arctic, though. Yeah, I think we do. Are you talking about specifically about trade or like actual? Conflict. Conflict. Probably both.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's so interesting. It's so relevant.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. The Malice Maleficarum book.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Wow. When was it published? 1486.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
After the Bible, the second most bought book is often considered the Koran.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And I just like you're saying of like how well you are adapted to using social media and not being like because I know a lot of older people that just are get scammed every single Facebook moms are the biggest security threat in the United States.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Just give us your credit card information and we're going to send you this incredibly expensive gift. We just need you to pay the seven dollar shipping.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Meanwhile, you get hosed for $1,000 out of your checking account.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, me too.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I mean, like I've had CIA officers on the show before who one of them in particular, Andy Bustamante. Yeah. Shout out. We need a common enemy to unite the country.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
we need some sort of common external devil to fight against in order to get us back together. And we don't have that. We also don't have a cohesive, national religion, like a lot of countries do. I'm not saying it's going to be a good thing if we do have that. Cause I think religion is probably the cause of most, more death and war than anything in the history of the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But like what, what else is there? Cause we are, we're not going down the right path.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
What if what if we could fake pretend like we have enemies and pretend like there's these big bad guys out there, like in the public, we're portraying China and Russia as these big evil bad guys. But like behind closed doors or diplomats are going over there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Hey, man, we're just put this in the news. We're still going to do all these deals behind the behind their backs.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I think the government does think that though. I think the highest echelons of the government do believe that. I think they treat us as a parent-child relationship.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
By the way, hey, we got to wrap it up in like five minutes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I got to pick up my kids soon. We're like three and a half hours in.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I bet you that happens a lot in North Korea.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, super cool. No, I got in. No, yeah, I knew this dude, Wally Green. He was a big-time, big-shot ping-pong player, and he went to some big tournament in North Korea. Oh, I remember seeing a bit of that. Yeah, and he got in a cab to go to the tournament or whatever, and he was like, oh, our Supreme Leader invented the telephone. He is the best.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Best ping-pong player. Actually, I think she did say he invented ping-pong.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You're going to go back and ride the jet skis? I know.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Hell yeah, we got it back there somewhere on that show.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, he scooted that one back in. I guess we're not ready for the new wall yet.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
We were going to debut the new wall with you, but he decided not to at the last minute. That was a pretty cool wall.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It's been fucking fascinating.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I'm sure you're going to see Beck, aren't you?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, this is almost exactly what that Russian dude Yuri Bezmenov was talking about.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Which it seems like that's exactly that is like precisely what where we're at today.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Exactly what he was talking about.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So they can play- Dictatorships can make decisions way faster.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
what do you mean abroad? Who specifically abroad would be throwing gas on the fire that's making more division in the U.S. over that war?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's when you were sworn in, right, on the jet ski?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, yeah. Do you see Tim Pool? How would Tim Pool?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I although I guess he didn't know where the money was coming from, but they got like I think it was a few million bucks from Russia.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
What was the I don't remember the story there, but I don't think like did they Were they told to talk about specific things? That I don't know, and I can't remember. See if you can find the story about Tim Pool being funded by Russia.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Okay, here we go. Tim Pool, right-wing influencer, has been implicated in a Russian influence operation, according to the federal indictment. Two employees at RT funneled nearly $10 million into... his company into a Tennessee based company called tenant media to create content favorable to Russia.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Tim pool was one of the content creators associated with tenant media, receiving a payment of $100,000. That's, that's what it was. Yeah. He got paid. That's what he had to create a new YouTube channel for this. Right. And the videos were not getting, you know, some of them were getting like, you know, 5,000, 8,000 views and he was getting paid a hundred grand for 8,000 views on the video.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
God, that's a really good payday. Yeah. So Tim claimed that he was a victim of the scheme and said Putin is a scumbag. There you go.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And it says here, Poole has made statements on social media supporting Ukraine, which some view as an attempt to counter the claims.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You can find it, Steve. You can probably find a one-minute clip of it. It's like a longer interview, but they have it clipped somewhere.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Have you ever been to Russia?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Turkey's the first one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Did you know we ingest a credit card's worth of plastic every week? It's the tiny particles in our food, water, and air. They don't just pass through. They build up in our organs, disrupt hormones, are linked to fertility issues, neurological disorders, and heart disease.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
In early 2024, human brain samples contained 0.5% plastic by weight, with higher levels tied to Alzheimer's and neurodegenerative disease. Microplastics have also been found in semen and placenta samples correlating with lower sperm quality, fetal exposure, and declining fertility.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
BPA and phthalates mimic or disrupt hormones like estrogen and testosterone, leading to reduced sperm counts, irregular cycles, and developmental issues in children. With microplastics and literally everything from our bottled water to our food to the dust in our houses, avoiding it is impossible. But luckily, you can support your body's ability to fight back.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Moringa activates the NRF2 pathway, your body's detox switch, helping flush out microplastic-associated toxins like BPA, BPS, and phthalates. This pathway boosts detox enzymes, making harmful chemicals water-soluble for easy excretion. Not all moringa is created equal. Many supplements use lower quality sources, root, bark, or contaminated powders, lacking the full spectrum of benefits.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Plus, Moringa naturally tastes bitter and unpleasant. And this is what led me to Morning Being by Verso, a rich, chocolatey coffee alternative. Packed with Moringa, cocoa polyphenols, and electrolytes to help detox, fuel energy, performance, focus, and longevity. I don't know how they masked the bitter taste of Moringa, but it actually tastes amazing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Plus, Verso only uses pure Moringa leaf, the most nutrient-dense part of the plant, and conducts third-party testing on every batch to ensure potency, purity, and safety. You can't avoid microplastics, but you can support your body's detox process. Start your day with Morning Being for research-backed detox, energy, and health.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Click the link below or visit ver.so slash Danny and use the code Danny for 15% off. That's ver.so slash Danny and use my code D-A-N-N-Y for 15% off. Thank you, Verso, for sponsoring this episode. That's it, Steve, the top one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
This is 13 minutes long. Go back and see if you can find a short because it'll be condensed. There you go. The second one. Try that. Boom.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Off we go. Yeah, baby. So what the were you doing at the Rand Corporation? I'm still there. You're working there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It seems like you don't really have to do much. It seems like you kind of like let the people fight themselves and light little fires where you need to light them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That was the dude that was working for Putin.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
He blew him up. He blew him out of the sky eventually.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's wild.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, if something sounds sensational enough or sounds logical enough, All it takes is one person to report on that story, no matter how reputable the original, original foundational source is. As long as there's a second source, somebody who reports on that, someone else might find that interesting, might make a video about that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Some other bigger reporter or content creator could see that and make a video that goes like really viral. And then once you get... two or three sources removed, then it's just like a free-for-all. People aren't going to be going back to the original source to see if that was a Russian agent or a Chinese PSYOP.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
They're going to run on it because it's a huge story that's going to get them a lot of page views and make them a lot of money.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You guys talk about UFOs at Rand?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
right um think about like think about it like this imagine if um a person like joe like joe rogan would be a good example i don't know i mean i'm sure he does quite a bit of background and research on his guests before they come in yeah but maybe
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
There's one day where he was hungover or in a rush to do something, and he came across some article or someone forwarded him some Instagram clip of somebody talking about something really interesting to him. And he was like, oh, fuck yeah, get this guy on the show. And this guy comes on the show, talks about all kinds of crazy things that no one's ever heard of or –
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
things that are blowing his mind that he finds super interesting does the puts that puts out the podcast gets millions and millions and millions of views now all of a sudden there's all these millions of other podcasts that are trying to get this same guy on their show they don't have to do any joe rogan had him on yeah what what what other what other than the fact that you know this person's talking about it's going to get you a ton of views and make a lot of money what other background checks do you need to do on this guy because he was on the number one podcast in the world
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Think how easy that must be for some. I mean, if there were Russian or Chinese or any kind of foreign agents doing that kind of work.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Have you noticed on the Internet? I don't know how much time you spend reading comments or how much time you spend scrolling through X comments.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It seems like, at least in comment sections, I've noticed this recently, that blaming Israel for everything seems to be in vogue right now.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
God, you got to be really ambitious to want to start your own country. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And I notice it more and more in comments, though, like comments on Twitter or X and on YouTube. Like, for example, I saw a clip the other day of... I think it was actually a clip of Joe Rogan's podcast where he was talking to a bunch of MMA dudes. Or no, it was Eddie Bravo. Okay. He was talking to him about JFK.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I would be the right guest for that. And then every single comment on that video was like... not one mention of Israel. I can't fucking believe Joe Rogan must be an Israeli agent. He's an op. Because he didn't say the word Israel when they were talking about JFK. There's this crazy thing where everybody, there's a lot of people on the internet that want to blame Israel for killing JFK.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, there's two easy arguments against it, right? It's because in 1963A, did Israel have the means to kill JFK and wrap up the FBI and the CIA to work with them to cover it up and to make it happen?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's one of them. Would Israeli intelligence or the Israeli military be able to get the U.S. military, the CIA, and the FBI to help them kill their own president? The argument for it is because people say Israel wanted a nuclear bomb and Kennedy wouldn't let them have it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And right after Kennedy was killed, I think some uranium was smuggled out of a plant in Pennsylvania. Okay. That's true. That did happen. But to say that they killed the president over that and got the entire U.S. government and intelligence agencies to help them do it is kind of crazy. That's really fucking crazy to say. And then...
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
To even think that they would consider going that far just to get some nuclear material is also insane. And on the other hand, you also have the entire U.S. military and Joint Chiefs of Staff that wanted to commit a full-on thermonuclear war across the whole entire world. They wanted to nuke China and Russia because that was the one point in history where we had the most nuclear weapons. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And Russia had very, very little at that point. They didn't start ramping up their nuclear arsenal until like 19. It was like a year after Kennedy was killed. Right. So it was a point that we had the most, they had the least. We wanted to fucking full-on nuke everyone because we knew that if they nuked us back, we would only lose, you know, maybe 100 million people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And waiting five years, it would be catastrophic.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So... That's the most plausible reason why Kennedy got killed, because the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted full-on war. He didn't want war. He was pulling everybody out of Vietnam. It was the whole Bay of Pigs thing, all that stuff combined. But everyone wants to blame Israel.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
What? There's so many different flavors of JFK.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
We talked about this in the first podcast, but you worked for some sort of other national security agency first.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
There's a recent thing that came out about the pyramids.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. A lot, a lot of people think it's bullshit. Yeah. I haven't like looked at the whole report, but.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
She's two weeks into rehab.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I can see that. I can see the idea there and how that makes sense. But at the same time, I feel like a lot of these comments, at least that I'm reading, it seems... And also... the sudden rise to this kind of rhetoric online seems very unnatural to me. Almost like it's some sort of bot farm or something.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Do you have a LinkedIn account?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Do you post on there?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So- What's DDoS mean again?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I'm still I know you have no incentive to prove anything right or wrong. Right. Yeah. It's just to gather more eyeballs.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I saw your TikTok.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Are there further images of this? Do we know? Is there hard evidence? Can you find something?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Open source intelligence analyst. And then you started to see like decapitation videos and you quit.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Why do you think that is? Why do you think it is our society is the one that is most prone to this kind of stuff? It seems like we're the most prone to ideological subversion or divide or we're like, it seems like, I don't know, because I haven't been to a lot of countries, but it seems like we are the most fractured and we have so many things going wrong.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Like we have not just in our minds, but like if I think 40% of the US population is obese, I mean, it's not good. Yeah, I mean... Do you think it has anything to do with... And you've been to a lot more countries than I have, but, like, do you think it has anything to do with religion or religious ideology?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, you can definitely see that, especially in the West or in the United States, where there is a lack of cohesive religious worldview. And people try to map this onto UFOs, onto even psychedelics. There's like a religious bent to people who are really into psychedelics. And which is interesting because have you seen any reporting or any of the recent stories that have come out about how
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Silicon Valley, or there's this big movement to sort of map Christianity onto everything Silicon Valley is doing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Because Silicon Valley used to be like anti-Christian.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And to even to be religious in Silicon Valley was crazy. You would never see that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And now you have Peter Thiel, you know, who is a gay Christian billionaire. Right. And other big Silicon Valley names and kingmakers in Silicon Valley holding these conferences, these religious conferences. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, there is a push to do that. Yeah. There's a huge push to do that. There's people that are like deep in, in, in the intelligence, like legitimate former CIA people who are coming out saying that this is angels and demons. These are biblical things.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Everybody does. It's crazy. Not just Beck, but there's legitimate legendary CIA officers that we know are CIA people who are coming out and saying this that are also UFO people. Right. Which, I mean... Fucking Tucker Carlson talks about it. He believes that these are fucking biblical things.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, I had heard that one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, no, to me it's just interesting how there's so many efforts that seem to be coming from very powerful sources trying to inject or infuse Christianity into various things that are in the popular culture right now.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. No, I always wonder, like, My perspective on it is when you have people like Peter Thiel and people like Alex Karp, the CEO of Palantir, who are very different in certain ways. One of them is super liberal. The other one is really conservative. They're both war hawks. Peter is the owner, but those companies that they run are military industrial complex companies. They get paid by the U.S.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
military or the U.S. intelligence agencies or whatever. they're funded by the US government to protect national security and to They're like a defense contractor, right? They're companies that were formed. I always, I've said this before, but like, if you want to like create the most successful company, you, you don't just make a company and then go and find customers.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
You build a company that's based on a customer that has a huge amount of fucking money. Yeah. Like the fucking defense department.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So I wonder how much this movement to map Christianity onto this stuff and to get more people in Silicon Valley invested in Christianity. What does that have to do with national security?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Because if you look at other countries and their worldview and their religious worldviews, like an extreme example would be Muslim countries that are – religious extremists to the extent where they're willing to strap a bomb onto their chest and detonate it to us. We are like, we worship the next Netflix series, the Kardashians and Tik TOK.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So like if you wanted to make us a more powerful country, I think one of our weakest links is our people and our ideologies and what you're talking about, like this, this fifth generation sort of,
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right, but if you can covertly inject something, some sort of cohesive idea into the U.S. population like Christianity in a way that seems natural, why wouldn't you try to do that? Like, for example, there's a whole other movement in the psychedelic world to try to merge psychedelics and Christianity as well.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, there's this book by Brian Marescu where he makes the case called The Immortality Key. He makes the case at the end of it that it would be beneficial to introduce psychedelics into the church to help people. And one of the crazy things about that is because, you know, you can really manipulate somebody with psychedelics. People's minds become way more manipulative, manipulatable.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And especially if people that are, you know, a lot of them who are going to church are probably not, you know, they probably are looking for answers to things. And when you have somebody who is has a direct line to God who's running this and also has the power to give you psychedelics. That's going to make you way more submissive and way more malleable to whatever that is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And if you can do that, like also if you can give all these people psychedelics and have these individual church fathers giving them a specific message, maybe that's a way you can do it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Like, if you believe in the moon landing was fake, you're a fucking crazy person. But you can believe all these other conspiracies and people don't think you're out to lunch like that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I think I've heard of it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. Right? Moon landing is definitely up there, though. It's up there. You're stupid if you think the moon landing was fake.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So you said that a lot of people would have to keep the secret for the moon landing to have been faked.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Do you think it's more than the Kennedy assassination? As far as people that would have to know about it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I mean, you've got... Right, but they could have still launched the astronauts into space, right? And this never gone into the actual moon. Maybe only the astronauts and a handful of people that were involved in filming it or... knowing about that stuff.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But like all the people in the, in the command center, you know, that were guiding the launch, they, they knew they were launching them out to space and they still launched the astronauts into space.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But the fact that they went to the actual moon, you could easily like, I think you could fake that without a lot, without a ton of people knowing about it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But during that period of time, the Cold War, there was so much fuckery going on. Golf of Tonkin, Kennedy's assassination, and K-Ultra.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Was it about that?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, that's hilarious. What does it say? Fly Me to the Moon, a 2024 American historical romantic comedy drama film by blah, blah, blah, blah, written by blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, let me see what the idea of the story is. Okay. A NASA launch director set against the backdrop of an Apollo 11 mission.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
The story follows Jones and Davis as she is tasked with creating a false moon landing in case the actual mission fails. Wow. Oh, that's another good point. Hollywood's telling us. If they couldn't get, well, you know, that's the thing though. Did they, did they, did they actually try? Is it plausible that they could have tried to do it and had a backup plan in case it fails and they can't do it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Because one of the biggest arguments for the fake, for the, for the fraud is that they couldn't get through that radiation belt.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, but have we ever sent... Have we ever done... Did we ever do tests sending, like, animals through the radiation belt and bring them back and test them and see how they did? Because I know the Russians did.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And it died a couple days later.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
well look how exponentially all technologies grow right right like look how look how crazy how fast like AI has just evolved since it first came out but the moon the Apollo mission technology is literally the only technology in human history in modern human history that hasn't doubled since the time we created it literally disappeared we haven't got like we went to the moon in 69 and through from 69 through 73 and we haven't been able to do it since it's the only technology that hasn't
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
exponentially gotten better or like doubled in its capacity or its ability to.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I think they just push it to like March of 2026.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And Elon also said the reason they haven't gone to the moon is because they would need to refuel nine times.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. Have you ever heard the sound of earth from space?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Steven, what does that sound like? Pull up the sound of earth from space on YouTube. It's fucking wild. It almost sounds like you're in the rainforest. What? There's like howler monkeys and stuff? It's from like plasma fields.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, because there's no, you can, click that, yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, whoa. Oh, this isn't the one I saw. Go back. This is not the one I saw. This must be fake news. This has got to be fake news. Maybe that one. Try that one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
No, no, no. The rest of this podcast is just going to be us listening to Earth. Up, up, up. Right there. Click that one for 11 million views. Or 1 million views. Oh, you just passed. You went right past it. There you go.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, that's so weird. The other videos, though, sounded so different, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Also, going back to the moon landing thing, how come the first guy who ever stepped foot on the moon, which is without a doubt the most profound, groundbreaking thing that humanity has ever accomplished on Earth. Yeah. He's only done, I think, two interviews and the president had to ask him to do both of them. Is that right? Two. And one of them was super cryptic.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah. He did one for like the 20th anniversary in front of like a college class. And he was saying like, we have to break through the lies of our history or something like that. Jeez. So if you are... If you are the person who achieved the most amazing, astonishing feat of humankind, why have you only done two interviews?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And he says he only does interviews the president specifically asked him to do.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right, but if you accomplish something like that for the purpose of – solidifying America on the world stage as far as like technological innovation, you would think they would want you to do more, you would almost have to be forced to be in the public eye a little bit more than that, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
you know, how... Pull up Neil Armstrong's interview in front of the class, in front of the college for the moon landing anniversary. Wait till you hear this shit. Yeah. It's crazy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Protective layers.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right. Well, there's, according to, you know who John Mearsheimer is? Yeah, Mearsheimer. So he talks about, I think what he says is there's three things that determine the power of a nation state. And it's like, number one is how big their gun is. Number two, how big their population is. And number three, I forget what number three was.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But now a lot of that funding is going into SpaceX and other private companies.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
$60 billion. That's worth dollars in 2020. It was worth $60 billion a year. Where does it say what it is now?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And 0.5% now.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right. And so you imagine what... But also a lot of that money has gone to private companies.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Google this, Steve. What was the memory on the... nasa apollo computers the the um the i think it was their guidance computers computer memory yeah there we go it's just like an original game boy four kilobytes of ram wow
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And it's also just convenient that all that technology disappeared because you know what their excuse was? Why they don't have any of that Apollo technology anymore? Because they accidentally wrote over the hard drive.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, they had to download the new Doom.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I think number three might have been like their geographical location.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Like us, we're surrounded by two oceans. Other people like Israel are surrounded by all these other adversaries.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Which certainly points out the incentives for national security and law enforcement to be embedded in these social media companies like we found out there in the Twitter files.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I mean, you know, they added the D to ARPA to make it sound like we're defending ourselves.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
How have I never heard about this, dude?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But you don't feel like super jittery though, right? It doesn't feel like caffeine, right? My eyelids are sweaty.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Have you seen the animations of what all the satellites look like orbiting the Earth right now?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It's insane.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, you're on Brave.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Dude, the images and the animations of all the fucking satellites that are orbiting the Earth right now, it looks like flies buzzing around a dumpster.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
How crazy is that, dude? Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Holy fuck.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Look at that. Look how many are farther out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's fucking terrifying.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Really? Why spy satellites? Why do they have such a long orbit?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It looks like a fucking junkyard.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And how many collisions, how many satellite collisions are there, Steve? Is there a stat on how many collisions per year there are with satellites in Earth orbit?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It's not consistently... What? Go to fucking Chrome. We use Brave usually because there's no ads and it's not as curated as Google.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So this says one satellite is destroyed by collision with other satellites or space junk annually.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
What is that?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And you can't track the space junk, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right, because it's flying so fucking fast.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Okay, so this says as of 2024, 28,300 satellites are orbiting Earth, almost 59,000 cataloged in total since the launch of Sputnik 1 in 57.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That could be dangerous.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
What do you think one of the – what do you think – would be the biggest, the biggest vulnerability or the biggest, the weakest link of the United States as far as like its ranking on nation states or countries in the world. Like we obviously we have the biggest military. We have the most high powered weaponry on Earth. We have the best geographical location.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Is it on YouTube?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, we got to see this. Because I think what the Palantir... Does it start out with, the idea of taking lives and saving lives is super interesting.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's an Alex Karp quote.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeesh. Whoa. Yeah. That's fucking sinister. I want to read the comments. What's the top comment of that video? UFOs. Please have them turned off.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Absolute cowards. Doing Israel's dirty work.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I don't know if we have, I don't know if we're the number one GDP. Are we? Is our GDP?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
They look like little DJI Mavics.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So this is something that, this is a paper that Rand put together?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And for people who don't know, what is Anduril?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But there's been like no major world wars since the 40s. So like what? I'm sure this is something that companies like the Rand Corporation are looking at.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Is it similar to that company Y Combinator or whatever it's called?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Which is made by DARPA, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
This was a big part of her first Platoon book as well, I think.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Right. If you have a lot of tentacles and a lot of arms out there basically testing shit that you would never even or people like even like coming up with theories like this drone thing. Right. So having thousands of drones that are worth, you know, less than one hundred thousand dollars swarm these ships that are worth billions of dollars and potentially take them out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Did you see how much money we're spending on our new fleet of nuclear submarines?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Can you find that, Steve? We probably looked at this a few months ago, but there's a new class. They're calling them the Columbia-class submarines, I believe. We had the Ohio's, and now they're working on the Columbia submarines. And I think they cost like $2 billion each.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Okay, yeah, yeah. Total projected budget for the Columbia-class submarine is worth $109 billion. Oh, that was it? I thought it was more. So $109 billion for 12 subs. Wow.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Estimated, the cost for the lead boat, USS District of Columbia, is estimated to be around $15.2 billion.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Was this stuff the U.S. gave them?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
There's also wacky, wild, sickening videos online about the, regarding people, like there's videos of drones, like dropping bombs on random soldiers, like hiding behind bunkers and stuff. I saw one yesterday, a couple of days ago of one It was a first-person view of the drone, like the front of the drone, and it rammed in front of a tank, and nothing happened. But you can see the guys.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It wasn't a tank. It was more like a Hummer or something like that. Because there was a windshield. And you can see the Russian guys behind the windshield. And as soon as the drone started speeding up, heading towards the Humvee, they got down like this. But then it backed up, and nothing happened. And they tried to ram it again, and nothing happened.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I think they have, I forget how many, but they built so many roads and ports in Africa.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And a lot of those ports that they built can be converted into military bases.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Ask if you were Chinese.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So can you explain the generation one through five?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
They have never seen a person from China.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Holy shit.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Serbia accused of using illegal sonic weapons against peaceful protesters.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
And so have you seen the videos of like some of the crowd control weapons being tested on people?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So the idea with this crowd control stuff, these crowd control weapons, is they're not fatal, right? They can't kill you.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But who knows what kind of fucking lingering down the line radiation effects it's going to have.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So it's just to control the populace. Yeah. To control the people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
They're also installing Huawei cell tower equipment like within within a couple of miles of military base or not military bases, but nuclear launch sites.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Chinese policing stations in the US. Yeah, they were shut down. What the fuck? Yeah, I think if you look it up. So if people publicly said something on social media against China, they would be able to?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, right. China's overseas police station is an eminent security threat. Keep scrolling. Zoom in to the first paragraph. Between 2016 and 2022, four local Chinese public security bureaus reported establishing 102 overseas police service stations in 53 countries across North and South America, Europe, Africa, and Asia.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Citing reports on these stations released by human rights NGOs, safeguard defenders, authorities in the United States, Canada, the UK, and the Netherlands, and 10 other countries, all launched investigations of these outposts concerning the Concerns about the overseas policing stations were – OK, but what specifically were they doing?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
How do you police people, though? And how do you like not get like the whistle blown on you?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
That's crazy. It even lasted a few years.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It's not like you can you find an example of what they were actually doing in that article? Sorry, go ahead.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But that also what they were doing is not legal by United States law. It's illegal. So they weren't using our laws.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
They were straight violating laws.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Something about Israel?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I wish they would pay me. I mean, right? I'd take $100,000 per episode.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Information.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
No way to clear whose hands these stations... If staff are paid... This is very... This is not... More information is needed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I'm sure you can find it somewhere, Steve, if you really search. Not on this article, but maybe on another one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Chinese policing stations in Europe are reportedly involving in monitoring Chinese disparate... Okay, this is basically what we said. Yeah. According to human rights groups like Safeguard Defender... Persuasion to return.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Oh, so they're policing Chinese people in the US or Europe, not just regular people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Only former Chinese people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I thought you just meant they were doing this to anybody.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, but no, we got away with it for 10 years.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Prices for the last few years have been and continue to be high, and most people unfortunately have to reach for credit cards to cover bills and expenses. But this is not sustainable. American Financing is helping homeowners pay off high interest debt by using their home's equity. American Financing is a family-owned mortgage lender that's been growing like crazy, and it's licensed in 50 states.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, because going back to what you're saying, maybe like certain individuals would be able to do this, but they couldn't make their companies transnational like this. No, no. Because like, you know, I'm sure you followed some of that USAID shit that's been happening.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, that guy, Mike Benz, talks about it all the time. It's fascinating the way he talks about it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, and so he used to work for the State Department, I think.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
He was an analyst for the State Department. Sounds right. And one of the things I remember specifically him saying was how he was leveraging... Leveraging... Companies like Facebook, for example, to maintain their monopolies overseas and being like, we're only going to let you have your monopoly overseas if you agree to censor X, Y and Z. All kinds of shit like this.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Yeah, are you still the ambassador to Somalia? What's the name of that island that you were in the ambassador of?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Where did you hear about this?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
wow it's yeah I mean so they're hiring people to work remotely oh my gosh look at that Reuters too exclusive secretive Chinese network tries to lure fired federal workers research shows um showdown let's read the summary zoom in researcher identifies a network of fake consulting and headhunting firms. Chinese embassy says Beijing respects data privacy and security.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Firms list addresses that are empty lots and shell companies. Wow.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
So if they're hiring them, what would they be doing? Do they give them a job and a paycheck? Is it just to make headlines and to create some sort of fucking internal dissent?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
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Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
To make sure that they censor stuff on the platform.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, it's not necessarily. Yes, exactly. It's the State Department doing it. Mm hmm.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
But apparently she got a bunch of money to inject some sort of Albanian dialogue, to talk about Albania in a certain way.
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
Well, she is Albanian, right? Did you type in USA? Dua Lipa, British Albanian singer, songwriter, has been involved in discussions about Albania and her relationships and this relationship to Kosovo in 2020. She faced backlash over tweeting a map representing greater Albania, which sparked controversy due to national implications. Yeah. But what does it say? Where does it come to the USAID stuff?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
I don't know. They're censoring us. I don't think that's going to change anything, Steve. Sparks. Yeah. Anyways, Mike Ben said something about how USAID. Oh, you know what it was? Okay. She was... one of these councils, what was it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#296 - Mind Warfare, Media Control & Space Surveillance | Eric Czuleger
It was like, it was like council for foreign relations. I think it was, or one of those things like the CFR. Okay. She was like awarded like the top fucking, uh, art artist or something. And she went ahead and like talked to this council, but apparently she was like involved. I don't know. You can't find anything, Steve.
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
I got a question. Yeah. Does the Vatican know you guys have this and what do they think about it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
But Danny, how is this any better than using soap alone?
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
You can't really see it there. Yeah. This has been ground down, and this is the original stone right there. They just, like, shh, shh.
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
Steve? It smells like ammonia, ammonia, ammonia.
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
Yeah, that's what he was talking about. This is the chakra and then I guess different levels. And if you add them all up, it's 144.
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
Wasn't this building rebuilt, though, after World War II?
Danny Jones Podcast
#273 - Knights Templar: Vatican is Covering up Bones of Jesus Christ | Tim Hogan
Oh, kind of.
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
Hey, good morning.
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
Prosecutors said bad blood, as Taylor Swift might say.
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
We, the jury, duly impaled and sworn, find the defendant, Nicole Erin Rice, not guilty... Is this the jury's verdict? Can you calm down a little bit, please? Is this the jury's verdict?
Dateline: True Crime Weekly
Verdict in the roommate murder trial. Mom accused of murder by fire and van. And, actor Dennis Quaid.
This was supposed to be a great buzzer beater game last night. Hope your brackets are still intact.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Wow.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Damn.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Wow.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Mm hmm.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Wow.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Okay.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Wow.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Really?
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Got it.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Yeah.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Yeah.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Wow.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Nice.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Dang.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Mm-hmm.
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Really?
Digital Social Hour
Inside the World of Professional Drifting & High-Speed Racing | Amanda Sorensen DSH #1220
Damn.
Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Resilience and Networking: Bek Lover's Journey from Finance to Podcasting Success
Yeah.
Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Resilience and Networking: Bek Lover's Journey from Finance to Podcasting Success
Yeah.
Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Resilience and Networking: Bek Lover's Journey from Finance to Podcasting Success
Mm-hmm.
Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Resilience and Networking: Bek Lover's Journey from Finance to Podcasting Success
Yeah.
Escaping the Drift with John Gafford
Resilience and Networking: Bek Lover's Journey from Finance to Podcasting Success
Yeah.
Global News Podcast
Myanmar remembers earthquake dead with a minute's silence
Pop stars and tech titans, founders and filmmakers, inventors and investors, we cover them all. And for the first time, we're talking about a video game designer.
Global News Podcast
Myanmar remembers earthquake dead with a minute's silence
Pop stars and tech titans, founders and filmmakers, inventors and investors, we cover them all. And for the first time, we're talking about a video game designer.
Global News Podcast
Myanmar remembers earthquake dead with a minute's silence
He made a billion, but is he good, bad, or just another billionaire? Find out on Good Bad Billionaire, listen on the BBC app, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Global News Podcast
Myanmar remembers earthquake dead with a minute's silence
He made a billion, but is he good, bad, or just another billionaire? Find out on Good Bad Billionaire, listen on the BBC app, or wherever you get your podcasts.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Mm-hmm.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Mm-hmm.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Mm-hmm.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Yeah.
How to Get a Girlfriend with Connell Barrett
Tongue-Tied with Women? Become a Funny Flirt with 3 Simple Moves and Get Her Giggling! (Live Coaching with Jake)
Mm-hmm.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
And Fox News has been a part of this indoctrination propaganda machine for so many years. And I believe there's a study out that says people that listen to kind of what would be considered mainstream news, ABC, NBC, PBS, people that don't listen to the news at all, and then Fox News viewers. The people who knew the least facts were Fox News viewers.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
And I agree with you, the fact that they are having to make all of these excuses for Elon Musk, The situation is we need to be bullying the shit out of Elon Musk. There is no transparency. He's got everybody's information. What has he done with it? Did he sell it to Vladimir Putin? Who knows? Why does he have it all? What's he doing with all of this?
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
This is beyond a constitutional crisis, in my opinion, and we are living in full-blown formation of fascism right now.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
I think, pardon me, listen, I'm a little under the weather. Pardon me. I think that what she said about being wimps, I don't think there's a wimpier administration than Donald Trump's administration. Take your policies through Congress. Name check. All of these Republicans do it. They won't do it.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
It's the chicken shit executive orders that then the judiciary is making, saying that they are illegal. You have Trump bending over for Vladimir Putin. You have J.D. Vance's embarrassment in Europe. And then they're sucking up to all of these sexual predators. But it is Trump's a predator. All of his cabinets are predators. It seems like sexual predation is a prerequisite, not a disqualifier.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
And so this onslaught, this attack on women, LGBTQ+, black and brown community, it is getting to such a fever pitch right now. But I think it's very important. We have decisions to make. I am so sick of hearing people say, we've got to reach out to MAGA. We've just got to talk to MAGA. Don't talk to them. These people listen to that crap that you just heard.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
This is the most morally defunct cult the modern world has ever seen, and it's going to get worse and more damaging. I think our conversation needs to be directed at the millions of voters that didn't vote. We have a very under majority voting population and do not talk to these people. Do not.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
They reap the benefits of all of these functions and all of this government that is set up to protect us, to make sure planes don't crash, to make sure we are detecting new diseases. They're doing away with all of that because they don't care about life. They don't care about women. They don't care about anything. This is a money hungry power grab by the wimpiest
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
beta males on the planet who have to sit around and promote Andrew Tate to try to prove how masculine they are. And I believe it's Andrew Tate who said, and this is how weird MAGA is. There's a clip where he says he would rather have sex with a trans person than an ugly female. Yet in the MAGA world, enemy 101 are trans people.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
So, but also Jesus, I mean, this is, this is just crazy town and you cannot talk to these people. So we've got to get like Stacey Abrams this thing and get people out who typically don't vote, people who are typically not engaged. That's who we need to target because people who are down this echo chamber, I'm sorry, but they're just lost.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
I mean, it's like trying to talk to somebody that's, you know, in a cult somewhere and on a compound. Okay. Please support our podcast by supporting our advertisers. You guys, I have so many subscriptions that I sign up for, my kids sign up for. It all goes on this one credit card. And then a lot of times I forget about them.
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Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
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Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
Yep. So, you know, that's really interesting that JD Vance, it's really rich that that eyeline wearing motherfucker goes over to Germany and tries to lecture them on free speech. All MAGA wants is controlled speech. They want their favored speech. They're all for free, free speech. If it favors them, these guys are Nazis. And I read an article this morning in my, you know, sick haze that, um,
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
What the word Nazi came from is there were a lot of people that didn't necessarily dislike Jews in Germany, but were for overt nationalism, were for German domination. And the word for those people was Nazi. And so that's what we have right now. And that's why I am so convicted in the fact that if you vote for this, you are okay with it.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
If you're making excuses for Donald Trump, you're okay with it. I remember studying World War II in high school and in college and thinking, what did the normal non-crazy Germans think? What did they say? What did they do?
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
you guys that's who we are and we need to be loud and unafraid and keep fighting and not pre-surrender to this fascist regime they have europe can no longer trust us canada can no longer trust us america can no longer trust us donald trump jd vance and a south african named elon musk
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
and they have a bunch of other oligarchs lined up, have taken all of these allies that we had that provided stability in our lives, both economic and security, taken a grenade and thrown it in it because they're fucking insecure assholes. And there's not a whole lot of deeper meaning to it than that. Hitler was a disgusting, evil asshole.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
There's this famous tweet about Rush Limbaugh that this guy sent out like on the four year anniversary of Rush Limbaugh's death. I said, now that Rush Limbaugh is dead, you never hear about him because he never made anything productive. He just spewed hate, spewed anger, was in the news cycles. And then when he died, it was like a fart passing in the wind.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
And that's what this right wing media echo chamber is. They're not producing anything good. They're indoctrinating People that used to be moderates, indecent people, they're indoctrinating them into this wildly horrific new modern style of Nazism. And we have to be loud and we have to be proud to stand up for human rights and we have to be proud to stand up for democracy because this is insanity.
IHIP News
Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
It is insane. It is insane that they scrubbed that tweet off of Twitter.
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Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
First of all, Fox News is not news. It's a propaganda machine that the equivalency to that is Russian propaganda TV. And they've gotten worse and worse. But more than anything, that is a false equivalency to compare leaders of the free world to fictional characters. But I think that's really on brand with MAGA that works with their base.
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Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
He's a hundred percent right. And that is just, it's for what they want. They want Canada to be a 51st state. So they felt like big dicks. I mean, come on. I mean, I wish they would just line them all up, take their pants off, get out the ruler, measure their dicks, tweet the results, tweet everything out so we could all move on with our lives.
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Vice President JD Vance DOWNPLAYS the Holocaust
This is pathetic and dangerous and just horrifically sad.
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How MAGA and Russia Successfully DISMANTLED OUR DEMOCRACY
I completely agree. And that's the most important part of all that. I think you're 100 percent right. The right wing media complex is so far advanced from the Democrats. It's not even remotely close. The lies, it's all lies. It's just lie, lie, lie, because the truth doesn't matter to them. Integrity doesn't matter to them. Jesse Waters' eyeliner in that shot, did you notice? He looks ridiculous.
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How MAGA and Russia Successfully DISMANTLED OUR DEMOCRACY
Mr. Alpha Male, he and J.D. Vance have the same makeup artist. Okay, sorry. I just had to say it.
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How MAGA and Russia Successfully DISMANTLED OUR DEMOCRACY
I couldn't agree more. Very well said on your part. What upsets me the most about hearing somebody say that is that for years and years, Donald Trump and the right wing have said, it's a witch hunt, fake news, fake news. So facts don't matter in America anymore. The United States is They don't care about facts. They want to own the libs. They want to be cruel. They want to marginalize people.
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How MAGA and Russia Successfully DISMANTLED OUR DEMOCRACY
Whether it's true or not doesn't matter. Donald Trump himself said, if you repeat a lie enough, it becomes the truth. And so for somebody sitting in. the United Kingdom, hearing Trump, or I'm sorry, hearing J.D. Vance and what he had to say and immediately recognizing that those are talking points with Vladimir Putin, but you have the Republican Party who is so pro-national security, pro-allies,
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How MAGA and Russia Successfully DISMANTLED OUR DEMOCRACY
They can't recognize it because they're compromised or they're in willful denial or they're so in love with their own power. But I think the American people that, you know, go for Vladimir Putin and are all rah-rah on these talking points, I think they've been deceived because facts don't matter to people anymore. And it is sad.
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How MAGA and Russia Successfully DISMANTLED OUR DEMOCRACY
There's no question about that because you cannot reason with these people. You cannot present hard facts, and it sways them. So it's a very, very, very sad day for Western democracies when the vice president of the United States is spouting Putin talking points.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
You know, I look at Elon Musk and I'm going to admit it. I have said, I thought he was like a genius. Like he invented all this software and blah, blah, blah. He didn't. I know that now. So where you, I think, have always been firm that he was a dipshit, I have always thought he was smarter than he actually is. So I'm going to take that back.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
I'm going to look at the evidence before my eyes and say, clearly this guy, he's from the Trump School of Oratory Skills. What was he even talking about? And everybody knows that just like Trump, everything he touches dies. Twitter is a cesspool. And here's one thing, and I'm just probably going off on a tangent that's unnecessary.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
I get so tired of hearing about free speech from Elon Musk when all he does is lie and he opposes and shadow bans people that tell the truth. And pro-Putin.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
Interestingly about this Duffy guy, he has gone in and started making excuses for the Trump administration, the cuts that they're making, jobs, they're losing jobs because they're trying to quietly roll away the infrastructure act. Like for example, the railway in California wants to get rid of 14,000 employees. People are mad.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
They're taking people's jobs away to give them to Elon Musk and big balls to put people in those positions. These people do not care if planes come out of the sky. This guy doesn't care if your benefits come through your employment with the federal government. He cares about doing what Donald Trump says.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
And that's why when you have secretaries and administrators of these organizations that have an oath, To one person versus the American people, that's what we're seeing right here. We are seeing lives in danger, some lost in the FAA so far. I mean, don't even get me started on all the stuff RFK is doing.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
It is so gross. What's interesting is she's like, oh, well, you know, they were withholding the woman, the female pilot's name because everybody in MAGA gets death threats. We heard reports yesterday that senators who were not going to confirm Kash Patel were getting death threats. So the reason people are not releasing their name is they're vilifying women.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
They're vilifying people of color saying, well, if they're in those positions, it's because of DEI. Not talking. Meanwhile, we have Pete Hegseth, who is just the absolute... All he has is good hair and he's been on Fox News. That's it. Those are his qualifications. So I do not want to hear that.
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Elon's LATEST Attempt at Being 'Cool' BACKFIRES Hilariously
And every time I hear one of these right wingers say DEI, it infuriates me because it is racist and they know it's racist, but they are giving a permission structure. for people to embolden and say their racism out loud and unfortunately i think as you're talking about the generations moving forward racism is coming back up it's being emboldened well
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I just think that it would send them into such overdrive. And the Elon Musk of it all, where his MAGA base is America first, Christian nationalism, Americans get everybody else out. I mean, Elon Musk is an immigrant from South Africa. Now, granted, he's white, which that checks a lot of boxes. But I heard the other day a clip from Fox News where they're still talking about George Soros.
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Angie? When you're talking about Ukraine, you have these, I'm seeing now misinformation because Donald Trump has, you know, tweeted because he governs via social media on his pathetic truth social. He's saying things like Zelensky's a dictator. The people don't like him. He's he didn't start the I mean, he's acting like Vladimir Putin didn't start the war.
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And I see increasingly on these sites that people believe this disinformation, which we know they have a real appetite for disinformation. But what is the best way to educate the American people that are willing to listen to the truth about this is not how this goes? I mean, Europe is meeting behind our back. And they should be. They should be concerned. So how do we combat that at this stage?
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Well, they've created the distraction that they are, that masculinity is under attack and it is not under attack. What is under attack is misogyny and sexism. And I just have two comments about J.D. Vance and masculinity. If you are so masculine, why on the planet are you kowtowing not only to Donald Trump and Elon Musk, but to Vladimir Putin and wearing terribly unblended eyeliner.
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And my second point is, I don't think he has any male friends because he says, when I get together with my male friends, we like to joke. What are you talking about? Like, stop. You're a grown man. Like, they sit around and do jokes. That makes no sense to me. He is someone that has children that are of half Indian descent. His wife is of half Indian descent.
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And he cannot defend them against the MAGA cult. And he is, in my mind, an extremely beta male.
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I'm like, like sweat the whole night. Like, why did I do that? I just, I follow Senator Klobuchar really closely. And so I feel like we're friends, even though we've never met. And so I just called her Amy, like an asshole.
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I think that's probably why you're not in political office. Among a lot of other things. Right. Amazing to me is that they stayed, they'll tell 4.30 in the morning and the Republicans would not bend. on tax breaks for people making over $10 million a year.
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Now we know there's cuts to so security, Medicaid, Medicare that they're making just haphazardly, but they're in there fighting for billionaires. I mean, I'm sorry, millionaires, people making $10 million or more. They're fighting for billionaires too. Absolutely.
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They're fighting for billionaires, but her, what she said, I didn't want to misrepresent what she said, but at some point the working class, the people that are, on using these social safety nets, and I hate it when people call them entitlement because if you've paid into social security, it's your money, but it's going to start hurting these people.
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When they realize that the rich are getting richer and they're going to be losing benefits, I hope that's enough to smarten them up, plus with X over $13, $14 in some places.
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Well, it's interesting to me that while Doge has been cutting programs. Elon Musk has been awarded contract after contract. So just don't even get me started on him.
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Absolutely true. I have long since been more concerned about how craven and vile Elon Musk is because he is more organized and he is more determined and he seems to be able to stay on track. Same with J.D. Vance. Donald Trump, all you have to do is say, oh, my gosh, did you see that shark over there? Oh, yeah, sharks, windmill, you know, the flight of ideas. He can't stay on task.
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I believe, like you do, that Donald Trump is being babysat by Elon Musk. And Elon Musk, in my opinion, And Putin are playing the world domination game. They want to turn American citizens against other Americans. They have demonized a whole faction of people, immigrants. Now, J.D. Vance is running around in Europe talking exactly like Putin would want him to, like verbatim.
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And so I think that a lot of this in the center is Vladimir Putin. And I think it's obvious as the nose on my face. And they have taken, Putin has taken through whatever message or Fox or whoever you want to put the blame on. You have Reagan Republicans, national security rah, rah, rah Republicans that are now saying they have approval of Putin himself. and the United States leaving NATO.
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That is how much he has turned them inside out. And it is absolutely terrifying.
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And also, one thing I want to point out is the new senior advisor to the State Department, to Little Marco, is Big Balls from Elon Musk's team. Big Balls. So Little Marco is now reporting to Big Balls.
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The difference would be, though, is all these MAGAs are so loyal to Donald Trump. Will that translate to J.D. Vance, who has zero charisma? So that will be the question. Will the MAGA base galvanize around Vance like they have Trump? And I don't know if that's true or not. And do they care? Right. Sorry, guys. My buttons are loud. Yeah. Do they care? At this point, do they care?
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But I keep thinking to myself, at some point, Trump's on there going, oh, well, we're trying to get down the cost of inflation because of Biden. That's a lie. Inflation is up because of the decisions that you're making. Prices are going to continue to rise at such a level. I think even the MAGA base has got to be able to figure it out.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And it's really cool.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
So I'll first share the results and then we can kind of unpack it.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And the counterpoint to this is the parasympathetic, which is rest and digest and restore. And the problem is that in this moment, so I guess...
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
Dealing with hard things is good for our body.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And it leaves a damage, a scar, a wound that is unhealing and persistent.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
The other thing that's kind of interesting and cool is that serotonin is the precursor to melatonin.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
So getting that natural sunlight, it's clear that sunlight exposure is good for our mood.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
So additionally though, that serotonin gets bioconverted into melatonin.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And by giving them a fecal transplant, like in two days, they're fine.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And then when we need medication, it's there for us.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
it will gain 15% more weight eating the exact same food.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And the average woman is, you know, 40% below that.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
Okay, the body is amazingly adaptable.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
But if you run a 100% animal-based diet, you will get into ketosis because there's very, very, very few carbs in there. the body will produce ketone bodies, which are acetoacetate and beta-hydroxybutyrate.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
and we assign the issue to gluten. And it may be, but it also may be something else that is in the wheat.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
What I'm worried about is glyphosate. So in the United States, when wheat is harvested,
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
So let me take fasting out of that group first.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
right? And that is the worst thing that you can do.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
So they don't satiate us and they make you hungry for more.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
So with regard to cleanses and parasites... It's challenging for me because the issue is that, for example, with a parasite, I have to see it.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
It's co-evolution.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
And what we saw
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
All right. I don't mean to steal everyone's fun.
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E137 - Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “Your Gut is Wiser Than Your Mind!” - Science of Intuition, Mood & Microbiome
Glowing from the inside out. Yeah, totally.
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It was like extremely convincing.
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So you and I, we grew up in a time where, at least to me, success was defined as me leaving my parents, becoming independent, buying a house, living in that house.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
thank you for sharing beautiful and yeah it's brave it's brave to stand tall when everything's burning down literally metaphorically and uh so thank you for doing that and being a leader and uh for feeling it all and transmuting and sharing a gift yeah it's a special land a special time yeah
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
That's the thing is you do many things.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. How's the start to the new year been for you?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
We'll see what comes of it. I know it'll be sweet.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
I probably similarly like you both really value the. full human experience and then also like the meaning and philosophy of like the existential reality of why certain things happen and how nature has its way as opposed to our own will sometimes we all have tragedy in life we all face challenges we all have things happen in a way that is outside of our ideal in some shape and form throughout
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
our whole lifetime. And I think how we show up in these moments is really where the spiritual rubber hits the hard road of life and where we get to put our practice into practice. And so, yeah, we'll see what insights and nuggets come from this time, but thank you for coming at such a fresh and raw time.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
I think it's the natural next step for a lot of people after tragedy is asking like, why? Sure. Why does this happen? Why do bad things happen? And there's so many different ways one can look at that. Just saying maybe it's random, you know, a confluence of conditions that were just not in our favor in a certain way and it was just random how it happened.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
You could say that there is a deeper intelligence of life that is, you know, orchestrating things. We could attach our own personal meaning. So many different ways in which us human beings find comfort and none is right or wrong as it pertains to our own interiors and what brings us comfort. What have you landed on as to why things like this happen?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Because the grief and the tragedy is almost at a scale where it's like, it's, it's, it can be so tough to see a bigger picture when the, you know, the reality is, is so hard for so, so many people. And so, yeah, I'm just curious on like what your thoughts are on, on that and how you make meaning.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, outside of some, you know, a lot of neighborhoods in Altadena.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Those fires, but yeah, Palisades for sure.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, it really does feel like the life is the other side of the coin of death and the veil thins as the fire purifies and you get to see the potential and the beauty and all the things that exist on the other side of what we have clung to, been attached to, have known.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And again, it's that juxtaposition of fully feeling our feelings and our experience of being human and the open potential sea of what could be and what is to come. Joseph Campbell, which I know we both love that quote that blisses any feeling fully felt. I think of that quote and I also think of that quote that you opened up, that you guys opened up the book Becoming With from Glennon Doyle.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
We are alive only to the degree in which we are willing to be annihilated. That's powerful. I'm curious why you decided to open with that. And as somebody who I know is very much so a kind of forerunner and likes to pioneer and is kind of like, yes to death, rebirth and re-innovation, both inwardly and externally, just the power that fire is.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
So yeah, what do you think about that kind of juxtaposition between the fire, the purification and our messy human emotional landscape?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, so this is now deviating a little bit more into the wider scope of the conversation, which I'm excited to dive in with you about. Because fire is like in the principle of alchemy, it is literally the element that purifies gold. And our emotional landscape also turns grief into gold, into insight, into some sort of external value. also the only element that can't be contaminated.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And so it's a powerful force to be reckoned with. And I think there's a fundamental switch in one's personal life and spiritual life when they discover what you just mentioned. They see the freedom that lies on the other side of awareness and integration and purification, and they start to walk towards the fire. And I know it's a huge value of yours. It's a big value of mine.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
People that really do value that and also live in the embodiment of that. I'm curious your process of why you've fallen in love with that process and what you've truly discovered in your own personal life. However philosophical or material you want to get with it, what comes on the other side of that?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. Before we continue to dive into a lot of the insight lessons and stuff that I know we both love to jump into, what was the actual process for you in discovering the fires were happening, being in the uncertainty phase, then eventually standing on the land where your house once was?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, and that allowing manifests as often a lot of action in different periods. Like I love the Taoist saying, the master does nothing yet leaves nothing undone. And it refers to the state of consciousness we all can inhabit where we surrender to the flow of what life wants of us. And that can look like often massive action. It doesn't mean you're inert sitting in a cave somewhere.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
It means you're doing what life is asking of you. And I think the purification process where we experience polarities and discomfort and challenges, the invitation, I guess, in this conversation and what you're pointing to is that you can choose how to perceive anything in your life. And when tragedy happens, when challenge occurs, you can choose to see it as a gift that becomes
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
that shit becomes fertilizer for new things to grow in your life. Or it can be things are happening to me consciousness. And of course, it's important to make space for the part of us that really feels like a victim of life.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I find it really awe-inspiring to read about individuals like Viktor Frankl and people who have experienced immense tragedy where your family gets murdered, might get put into a gas chamber and you're still able to choose an empowering perspective that allows you to be of greatest service to those around you.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I think that those are powerful people that stand as pillars for reminders of what's possible in life. And then it's a fundamental reorientation of perspective. And you start to see these challenges as real opportunities in life. And I love this quote from Khalil Gibran that kind of speaks to this, that I found this morning, actually.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind. Yet strange, I am ungrateful to these teachers. And it's interesting, right? Thank God there is a polarity of experience. If it was just one monotone note throughout our whole life, it would be a very boring movie.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And so this perspective, this contrast of experience is actually really beautiful. And usually it takes hindsight to witness that beauty, but it doesn't always require it. And I think that's where, again, the spiritual rubber meets the road where you get to actually experience the beauty while you're in the process of transformation.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Because the more times you've gone through it, the more times you know what's to come. It's like, I know what's on the other side of this pain. And it's an insight. It's a lesson. It's some sort of growth.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, and it can be tough to delineate between those layers in a society that really values the intellect and the mind kind of operating in linear time. Like our intellectual mind loves control and certainty and connecting the dots in a way that we can predict
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
and what you're speaking to is a deeper energy a deeper intelligence if you will and i think for those that have experienced moments of coincidence synchronicity where they were perhaps operating within flow and outside of their intellect and they can see the magic that can unfold in our life when we live from that place it's uh it's very inspiring and it really can be a catalyst for so much and so what do you feel like is the difference between our intellect and operating from a deeper intelligence
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Well, good thing you're on a podcast with me, Az. Here we are.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
It is accelerating. Every day, more and more, it seems like.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Both internally and externally, like with technology, you know, it's at such an exponential rate where literally every day new discoveries and things and inventions are coming out and, uh, It can be tough to keep up if we're so closely identified with that. But then again, it's like inviting back as a reminder into that deeper somatic intelligence.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I think for those that are listening that want to apply and kind of bring this more as a reality in their life,
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
For those that make quantum leaps in their life, whether it's internally in a growth of their mindset or externally in their abundance, prosperity or impact or service in the world, usually people that are making those big quantum leaps in life on paper, their decisions or moves don't make sense. They're illogical.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I'm just curious your thoughts on tapping into that intelligence at a deeper level, which looks like intuition. And what in your experience has been accessing that intelligence through intuition versus old conditioning that actually masquerades as gut feelings and can look like intuitions, you know, because there is a there's layers to it.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
It feels like, and I'm definitely familiar with this earlier on in my journey and saw a lot of it, this juvenile form of personal development that says we should always be expanding, that our will is the only thing that shapes reality. I, of course, believe we are creators of reality, and yet we live in a context and an environment with cycles and seasons that influence us, right?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
We are not these... independent creatures moving through time and space we are interdependent with every thing every force every life energy people in nature around us and i think in the recognition that there are these both bigger mic macro and smaller micro cycles happening within us around us
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And starting to live in more harmony is a more truly expanded version of what it means to be personally growing and personally developing. And so I'm curious about your thought there between this old kind of rhetoric and narrative that's like always grow, always expand my will, you know, versus there's actually cycles and seasons where maybe it's fallow and that looks totally different.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And that actually is growing. It just doesn't look like it yet.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. Ultimately, we're putting a state of consciousness or feeling that's associated with that place over there anyways. We ultimately want to feel good within ourself and just feel like we have a balance of certainty and uncertainty. And we want to feel generally optimistic about a vision of a future that excites us. But it is embracing that dream that is our life and that
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
it's that woo way it's that what ellen watts talks about so much you know and the balance and harmony of of those polarities and finding the middle way you know which is actually where um we find the most balance in life and and yeah it can be again tough in this society to embody that level of trust and surrender but it is a state with so much beauty that it would be a shame not to explore and to be devoted to embodying you know
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, that intimacy is truly what I feel we crave. That drives us to often exploring the shadow and seeing what is the barrier between joy. Like when we discover the joy that's inherent in our being, the natural byproduct of that, like the fragrance of our being in a way, is to naturally be of service and to be a steward for all living things around us. And...
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, we live in a time where it's exciting because more examples of that are become readily available. Like the negative rhetoric and tragedies that are always available on news that our nervous system isn't designed to have the capacity to handle always is always there.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And the more that we can create and be a pioneer and leader of that new paradigm that we're speaking to, I think it just becomes another access point, another touch point in which people can tune into that frequency.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, and it's that balance of like where surrender can quickly become avoidance and control can become self-sabotage also. And so it's like... It's like the balance within the balance too, you know, because we can also very quickly just turn a blind eye to the realities that are around us until, funny enough, it comes on our front doorstep, you know, or burns through it.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
In both of our cases, you know, it came, the fire, for example, came really close to where, you know, I'm at. And we had obviously dozens of friends that have lost their place. And it's the both gift and challenge with human language in general is using terms like surrender. Often everybody has their own understanding of what that means. Yeah.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
It's happening. I don't know if you've seen the telepathy tapes.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, we're exploring, hopefully going to have Diane and Powell and Kai on the show. It's so interesting what's also happening as this rise of AI, for example, and our understanding of the ancient intelligence that is happening. And it just rewrites our notion of consciousness and life and all of it as a sidebar. Yeah.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
When you're at the beginning of your journey of kind of attempting to merge the spiritual expansion and awareness and deep dives and everything and medicine journeys and all the stuff that you were doing earlier on in your path, To then calling in, desiring to be a steward for large amounts of money and big projects and merging the material and the physical.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
I think a lot of people can relate and probably that are listening to this right now that have big dreams and desires. And we live in a capitalist society where money is energy and allows us to create things, you know.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. And I'm just curious, like what... Because you have the expanded awareness, you know, that I am a quantum being and I can tap into the quantum field and manifest all this. And then there's, you know, the practice of having that vision of a future that excites you and getting clear on what that is. And then the actual process of manifestation.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I just know that's such a big part of your journey and process. So what do you say to people that are at that stage where they're kind of just getting ready to metaphorically shave their head and they want to be able to merge. So like, what have you learned in the insight looking back around that period of time to merge those two?
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
It's the numbers in her bank account.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, the merging of both of those is very exciting. More examples, I feel like, are popping up every single day. And I think what we both strive to be a leader in that new paradigm where to merge heaven on earth requires both
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
individuals who can realize that state of being within themselves but then also have the understanding and capacity to organize the systems and teams and logistics and all the things that are necessary in the material 3d world to to to bring those things into into this reality you know and so i think both of us are passionate about scaling the evolution of consciousness
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I think it's a value, I'm sure. I feel that a lot of our listeners tuning in right now also share. And so it just, yeah, it feels exciting to me to dive a little bit more into what the Leadership 2.0, if you will, sort of looks like. I think fundamentally, like we need to learn how to lead ourselves first and then we can lead others in groups and organizations.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
But what have you seen and has there been a predominant challenge in the birthing of what you feel like is a new paradigm of leadership when we see a lot of leadership around us that pales?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And so top down, very top down.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
I also feel as a human dude. You're a human dude? I'm a human guy dude. I feel that evolution of leadership in many ways could be described as the divine masculine from a guy's perspective. And the evolution of what it means to hold a container for people, for a vision to come manifest without losing your sensitivity and communication with those around you and life.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
You know, and again, we do see so many examples where it is that kind of control over paradigm. And what we're talking to is the next evolution of what that looks like, where you maintain your listening, your awareness, your sensitivity, while still being a presence of clarity and direction. Yeah, that's exciting to me.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, there's the glass ceiling is essentially where the leader is willing to go and explore and expand to. And I think this applies to all of us beyond leaders. Of course, we're all leaders in our own way, in our own lives. But as co-creators for a new world, I'm curious how you feel like this applies.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And then also as we start to head towards wrapping up, I'm just curious if you want to share anything else you're working on and programs and all the things that's coming on the other side of this rebirth.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Oh, that's awesome. We'll link down where people can find more information about that.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. Love you guys. Love Zach dearly. yeah, it's exciting. I've, you know, there, there is, you know, just the, the, the video of Newsome, who's like sharing his vision for like, uh, re-imagining LA 2.0 or whatever, did not get the best vibes from that video.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I think we need more leaders and individuals who are, who are sharing, um, something that really has, um, the best intention for nature and, um, And for what can come, that's in harmony with life and nature. So cool. Very exciting.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah. Yeah, I think from the old paradigm, money and the desire for the acquisition of more of it is seen as sort of this kind of narcissistic way to gain power over people. And when it's coming from the new paradigm, you know, and you're living in harmony with nature and you're being guided by a greater intelligence that is meant to serve people truly.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
then the acquisition of more money and power in that sense and ability to move things in the world and be an impact leader in that way is noble. It's just another tool in which you can really support at scale. And so it becomes, you know, again, it's like you've said it many times that money, like many things aren't inherently good or bad, you know, and they just reveal more of who we are.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
On that note, what is the difference you think you feel between identifying as the owner of something versus being a steward and working with things? There's a different texture in being a steward and specifically that word versus sort of identifying as the sole kind of controlling force over something.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
maintaining relationship and communication with it. I think all of our projects are relationships, like a relationship to a child. The more you control and try to create a version of yourself in that thing, then you thwart its ability to be something better than you can imagine.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And I think a lot of our conversation today, and I know what you guys have written in your book, is everything you didn't know you wanted. And so being a steward in relationship to a project is just like a child. And for this podcast, you know, it's like it's its own being in a way and in relationship and the discovery was, you know, what it's becoming and what it can be is very exciting.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
And to maintain that, we've got to retain our ability to listen in that process. So cheers to being stewards.
Know Thyself
E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
For sure. For sure. It's cool to see the evolution of your guys' mission and story and how it's evolved. And, you know, getting to witness people firsthand, people that you love, your friends and family, like continually trust deeper and deeper in life is a privilege to be witness to. So, yeah, it was awesome for me.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Thanks for coming. And for everybody that's been tuning in, I'm curious for you to share your thoughts of what you're committed to being a steward of. I know if you've been affected by the LA fires, we'll link down the initiative that we mentioned previously down below, but then also ways to contribute. You know, there's a lot of... help that is needed.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
What is really beautiful and always comes on the other side of a lot of tragedy is the coming together and support of people across the board. And so that is a silver lining. And yeah, everybody, thank you so much for tuning into this episode. I'll see you next week. Take care.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Know Thyself. Our guest today is a co-founding steward of Kavanaugh, and she focuses and has been for over a decade really supporting and coaching entrepreneurs, leaders, creatives through courses, retreats. And she's a dear friend of mine. And this has been a wild start to the year. Azria Beckert, thank you for being here.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
that process of alchemizing grief into gold. And I know you've had a lot of creative inspiration come from it too. Like you see the ephemeral nature of something that you so deeply cherished and it, you know, how impermanent life is can take things away in the blink of an eye. It thins the veil, you know, between, I feel like us and the divine creative life force energy and
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
That can show up in many different ways. And I know you've been writing some poems from the time. Would you want to share one of them?
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
Yeah, I'd love for you to share with our audience. And I think it's really beautiful to be able to feel that process because we can all relate in our own ways, whatever we're going through.
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E133 - Azrya Bequer: Transform Pain into Purpose & Grief into Gold
It's been a while since we've seen each other.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
Let go of that idea, number one. Number two, Embrace presence.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
What's left is the source of all ideas.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
There are two ways to think about it.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
You are not a conscious being, nor am I. We are experiences in consciousness.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
I don't think he appreciated that.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
It's an object, a physical object. Go a little further. Is it a physical object or is it a perception?
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
The more you access silence, the more dynamic your life becomes.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
Joy. Joy is the only measure of success.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
Take it easy. That's it. You know, when I'm
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
He said, what is it? I said, it's the perception of threat.
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
Where is this experience happening? Within. But where is that? In my consciousness. Where is that? Here. Okay, that's close. But where is here? Now. Where is now?
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E141 - Deepak Chopra: Mind, Memory & The Multiverse: What is Reality?
But it's liberating.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
That's genius. It's just crazy to think about.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
Yeah. So that's like the private.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
And so, I don't know. I just got to a point where it was just like, yeah, just a very overwhelming sense of numbness.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
No, I'm good. We might have to take a break just for me to get this figured out.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
Yeah, I think this will be fine.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#469 – Oliver Anthony: Country Music, Blue-Collar America, Fame, Money, and Pain
It's like, yeah, you can like whack somebody over the head with it pretty good.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
The following is a conversation with James Holland, a historian specializing in World War II, who has written a lot of amazing books on the subject, especially covering the Western Front, often providing fascinating details at multiple levels of analysis, including strategic, operational, tactical, technological, and of course the human side. the personal accounts from the war.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
We could probably talk for many hours about each of these topics. We could talk for 10 hours about tanks. I encourage people to listen to your podcast, World War II Pod, We Have Ways of Making You Talk. It's great.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So like I said, we could probably talk for many hours on each of these topics, but let's look at some of the battles and maybe you can tell me which jumps out at you. I want to talk to you about the Western Front and definitely talk about Normandy. So there was the Battle of Midway in 1942, which is a naval battle. There's Eastern Front, Stalingrad. probably the deadliest battle in human history.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Then there's the Battle of Kursk, which is a tank battle, the largest tank battle in history, probably the largest battle period in history. 6,000 tanks, 2 million troops, 4,000 aircraft. And then that takes us also to the Battle of the Bulge in Normandy, the Italian campaign that you talk a lot about. So what do you think is interesting to try to extract some wisdom from?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Before we get to Normandy, do you find, as a historian, the Battle of Kursk or the Battle of Stalingrad more interesting? Stalingrad is often seen as the turning point.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So let's talk about the hunger plan. How important was the hunger plan and Lebensraum to Nazi ideology and to the whole Nazi war machine?
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Nor how you provide resources and feed and the soldiers and all that kind of stuff.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I mean, we went over it really fast, but there is a human drama element. Yes. But yes, when we're talking about the operational side... the material loss of a battle is also extremely important to the big picture of the war. And we often don't talk about that because, of course, with war, the thing to focus on is the human drama of it. Because we're humans.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, we should mention that, you know, the Western Front and the Eastern Front are very different in this regard.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So a lot of the Holocaust by bullets, the Holocaust with the concentration camps and the extermination camps is not in Germany. It's not in the Western Front. It's in Poland. It's in the Soviet Union.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, you, by the way, have a nice podcast series of four episodes on Auschwitz, the evolution of the dream world town that becomes a camp, a work camp, then becomes an extermination camp.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So this for sure is something I would have to dive deep in. There's a book you recommended, K.L.,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I think in the details. There's two ways, I think, to look at the Holocaust. One is man's search for meaning by Viktor Frankl, sort of this philosophical thing about how a human being can confront that and find meaning. What does the human condition look like in the context of such evil?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And then there is the more sort of detailed, okay, well, how do you actually implement something like the final solution? So you have this ideology of evil implemented. Yes. And at the fine detail of what are the different technologies used, what are the different humans and the hierarchy of humans in a camp, how do they...
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
what's the actual experience of the individual person who shows up at a camp just get in the details and in those details i think there's some deep profound human truth that can emerge that the the mundane um one step at a time is how you can achieve evil yep so yeah you can get lost in the mundane it's yes the banality of evil it's um
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
While being humiliated all the way through.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
It seems like as a human civilization, we walk that Solzhenitsyn line between good and evil. It's a thin line and we have to walk it carefully. Yes. So one of the great battles in World War II on the Western Front is Normandy. I have to talk to you about Normandy. D-Day. The Normandy landings, the famous on June 6, 1944. This was an Allied invasion of Nazi-occupied Western Europe.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
What was the planning? And it was lengthy planning. What was the planning? What was the execution of the Normandy landings?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
It facilitated trade and cultural exchange for over 1500 years, roughly from 130 BC. It was spices, tea, paper, gunpowder moving west, and gold, silver, glassware, and horses. moving east. But I think the fascinating thing again is the exchange of culture and the exchange of ideas. Anyway, sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com slash lex, all lowercase.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, and that was really the nail in the coffin, the beginning of the end for Hitler, for the European theater.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So let's go to the very end. The Battle of Berlin. Yeah. Hitler sitting in his bunker. His suicide. Germany's surrender. You actually said that Downfall, the movie, was a very accurate representation.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Oh, details. But I think it's probably, it might be my favorite World War II movie. Which is strange to say because it's not really about World War II. It's about Hitler in a bunker.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I mean, it's a fascinating story of a evil maniac. And then, and this, this certainty, you know, crumbling, right?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
They're all the same, aren't they? You always believe you're doing good. And there's so many deep lessons there. So now you have written so much, you have said so much, you have studied this so much. What, to you, looking at World War II, is the lessons we should take away?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And you take for granted at our peril that nobody will use nuclear weapons ever again. And that's not a thing we should take for granted. No, sir. What gives you hope about the future of human civilization? We've been talking about all of this darkness in the 20th century. What's the source of light?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
James, I'm a big fan. This was an honor to talk to you, and please keep putting incredible history out there. I can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you so much for talking today.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
It's been an honor and privilege to talk to you. Thanks for listening to this conversation with James Holland. To support this podcast, please check out our sponsors in the description or at lexfreeman.com slash sponsors. And now, let me leave you with some words from Winston Churchill. If you're going through hell, keep going.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Thank you for listening and hope to see you next time.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, this is not a pragmatic, rational leader. No. I mean, part of his effectiveness, we should say, is probably this singular belief in this ideology. There's pros and cons. For an effective military machine, probably having that singular focus is effective.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Let's talk through it. So Operation Barbarossa that you're mentioning, and we'll go back.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Straight into it.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So this is June 1941, Operation Barbarossa, when Hitler invades the Soviet Union with, I think, the largest invading force in history up to that point. Collectively, yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And there's three prongs, Army Group North, Army Group Center, Army Group South, North is going to Leningrad, Center is going, it's the strongest group going directly towards Moscow, and South is going and targeting Ukraine and the caucus. So can you linger on that, on the details of this plan? What was the thinking, what was the strategy, what was the tactics, what was the logistics?
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
There's so many things to say, but one of them is to say that you often emphasize the importance of three ways to analyze military conflict, the strategic, the operational, and the tactical. And the operational is often not given enough time, attention, And it's the logistics that make the war machine really work, successfully or fail.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I've gotten to study this particular physiological process across many, many years of my life when I had to cut a lot of weight. Sweat is fascinating, isn't it? But as you sweat, you're losing sodium, potassium, magnesium, and so you have to replenish it. I think about the ultramarathon runners and the events like the Badwater Ultramarathon. I think it's 135 miles through Death Valley.
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
In my crazier moments, I think about doing an ultramarathon like that. Some of the coolest people I know do ultramarathons. And some of the especially coolest people I know have done the bad water ultramarathon. What is it about the human mind and the human heart that pulls towards a challenge like that? It's absolutely nuts, isn't it?
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
i love the the logistical details of all this because yes that's a huge component of this especially when you're covering that much territory but there is a notion that if hitler didn't stop uh army group center it could have pushed all the way to moscow it was it was only maybe 100 miles away from moscow Is that a possibility? Because it had so much success in the early days pushing forward.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Do you think it's possible that if Hitler, as we mentioned from a military blunder perspective, didn't make that blunder, that they could have defeated the Soviet Union right there and then?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
They really caught the Red Army unprepared. Yeah. Is there something to be said about the strategic genius of that?
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So before that, would it be fair to say it was one of, if not the greatest army in the world?
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#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
But also technology material. Yeah. The size of the army and the number of people that are mobilized.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, he really hated the Prussian generals, huh?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Is there a case to be made that he was indeed at times a military genius?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I mean, there is a kind of genius to be able to see and take advantage and set up the world stage in such a way that you have the appeasement from France and Britain, keep the United States out of it, just set up the world stage where you could just plow through everybody with very little resistance. I mean, there is a kind of geopolitical genius.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
That's right. So miscalculation blunder. But then France does, right? And then... That doesn't, you know, France does not successfully do anything with this incredible army that it has.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Here's my question. I think you're, you're being too nice on France here. So when, when, when Germany invaded Poland, it, Correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like France could have just went straight to Berlin. Yeah, they absolutely could have. And I know you said it's very top-heavy, and you're saying all of these things, but they literally did basically nothing. Yeah, they were pulling.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And I think a part of that, and I think you described this well, maybe you can speak to that, is the insanity that is Hitler creating this psychological, with the propaganda, creating this feeling that there's this Nazi force that's unstoppable. So France just didn't want to step into that. Maybe they were legitimately, I hesitate to say these words, but scared.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
But the scary thing is, you know, radio is the technology of the day. The technology of the day today, which is a terrifying one for me, is, I would say, AI on social media, so bots. You can have basically bot farms, which I assume is used by Ukraine, by Russia, by US. I would love to read the history written about this era, about the information wars. Who has the biggest bot farms?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And it's funny because I just got a notebook for some basic note-taking, like a physical notebook with a physical pen. And it feels so limiting. And not limiting in a good way, like the constraints are a catalyst for creativity. I mean, limiting like I want to run some algorithms to summarize stuff, to generate some more text to give me ideas, all of that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Who has the biggest propaganda machines? And when I say bot, I mean both automated AI bots and humans operating large number of smartphones with SIM cards that are just able to boost messages enough to where they become viral, and then real humans with real opinions get excited also. It's like this vicious cycle.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So if you support your nation, all you need is a little boost, and then everybody gets real excited, and then now you're chanting, and now you're in this mass hysteria, and now it's the 1984 Two Minutes of Hate, and the message is clear. I mean, that's what propaganda does, is it really clarifies the mind.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
But I just need the notebook because sometimes I don't have any electronic devices on me. And specifically, that is one of the things I like to do for creativity is to remove things electronic devices for my life for long stretches of time, for many hours in a day, sometimes multiple days, and it just forces you to be creative in the way that devices somehow suffocate.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And especially when the country's in an economic crisis like Germany was. I think you've written that the Treaty of Versailles created Hitler and the Wall Street crash and the Great Depression brought him to power. Yes. And of course, the propaganda machine that you describe is the thing that got everybody else in Germany on board.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So it's very possible he wouldn't have come to power.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
They too easily get you to be task switching, one task to the next, to the next, to the next, and that kills the kind of deep focus that's required, first of all, to be truly present for life, for thoughts, for ideas that you're working through. And also to just focus on solving difficult puzzles, whether they're creative puzzles or engineering puzzles.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
There's many lessons there, but one of them is don't let an extremist into government and assume you can control them.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I mean, there is a real power to an extremist. Like there's a person who sees the world in black and white. can really gain the attention and the support of the populace. Yes. Especially when there's a resentment about like Treaty of Versailles, when there's economic hardship, and if there's effective modern technology that allows you to do propaganda and sell the message.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
There's something really compelling about the black and white message.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Can you actually comment on that? It's a shitty manifesto as far as manifestos go. I think there's a lot of values to understand from a first-person perspective, the words of a dictator, of a person like Hitler. But it just feels like that's just...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
To support it, please check out our sponsors in the description or at lexfriedman.com slash sponsors. And now, dear friends, here's James Holland. In Volume 1 of The War in the West, your book series on World War II, you write, The Second World War witnessed the deaths of more than 60 million people from over 60 different countries. Entire cities were laid waste.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, but there's also the component of predicting basically World War II there. So it's not just to play forever.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
It's a pretty unique way of speaking, sort of allowing violence as a tool in this picture that there's a hierarchy, that there's a. superior race and inferior races, and it's okay to destroy the inferior ones. Usually politicians don't speak that way. They just say, well, here's good and evil. We're the good guys. And yeah, maybe we'll destroy the evil a little bit.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
No, here is like, there's a complete... about a very large number of people, the Slavic people. They just need to be removed.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
We just need to populate this land that belongs to the German people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
You make it seem so clear, but... All the while, to the rest of the world, to Chamberlain, to France, to Britain, to the rest of the world, he's saying he doesn't want that. He's making agreements. Everything you just mentioned, you just went through it so quickly, but those are agreements that were made that he's not going to do that, and he does it over and over.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
He violates the Treaty of Versailles. He violates every single treaty.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
but he still isn't doing the meeting so maybe can you go through it the lead up to the war 1939 september 1st like what are the different agreements what is the signaling he's doing you know what is he doing secretly in terms of building up the military force yes so he you know part of the treaty of versailles you're not you know you're allowed a very very limited um
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
National borders were redrawn, and many millions more people found themselves displaced. Over the past couple of decades, many of those living in the Middle East or parts of Africa, the Balkans, Afghanistan, and even the United States may feel justifiably that these troubled times have already proved the most traumatic in their recent past.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
It's also hard to put yourself in the mind of those leaders now that we have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons have created this kind of cloak of a kind of safety from mutually shared destruction. You think, surely you will not do... you know, a million or two million soldier army invading another land, right? Just full-on gigantic hot war. But at that time, that's a real possibility.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
You remember World War I. You remember all of that. So, you know, okay, there's a mad... guy with a mustache, he's making statements that this land belongs to Germany anyway, because it's mostly German populated. Like you said, Treaty of Versailles wasn't really fair. You can start justifying all kinds of things to yourself.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, but before we get to Poland, there is this meeting, September 1938. So Chamberlain made three trips to meet with Hitler, which culminated in the Munich Conference. Yeah, on the 30th of September, yeah. Where was Chamberlain, Hitler, Mussolini, and Delagier, Prime Minister of France meeting?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
They met to discuss essentially Czechoslovakia without any of the government officials of Czechoslovakia participating. And Hitler promised to make no more territorial conquest, and Chamberlain believed him. He chose to believe him, I think is the point.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yet, globally, the Second World War was and remains the single biggest catastrophe of modern history. In terms of human drama, it is unrivaled. No other war has affected so many lives in such a large number of countries. So, what to you makes World War II the biggest catastrophe in human drama in modern history? And maybe from a historian perspective, the most fascinating subject to study?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
The Munich conference is a pretty interesting moment, I would say, in all of human history, because you got the leaders of these bigger-than-life nations in the most dramatic brewing conflict in human history. Yeah, Chamberlain, Hitler, Mussolini, Daugherty. It's interesting when these bigger-than-life leaders are in a room together. Is there something that you know about?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Do you think there are words that Chamberlain could have said that put more pressure on Hitler, intimidate Hitler more?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
But what about even just on the human level? If I go into a room with a British gentleman, versus going to a room with Trump, it feels like it's so much easier to read and manipulate the British gentleman. Because Trump is like, Trump-like characters. It seems like Hitler's similar, Churchill is similar. It's like this guy can do anything. There's something terrifying about the, yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
It feels like there's something very predictable about Chamberlain.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
When do you think, what lesson do you take from that? When is the right time for appeasement, to negotiate, for diplomacy? And when is the right time for military strength offensive?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
You could have threatened it more. Imagine Churchill in those same meetings.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
But, like, really not ready. Even, like you mentioned with Barbarossa... Nazi Germany is really not ready. Not ready. Nobody's really, except France. I swear. France? France already is. Fine. But come on. Come on. When Nazi Germany invades Poland, I mean. Yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Hitler's absolutely jumping at the bit. Well, in that case, from a dark militaristic perspective, his bet paid off.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So he probably would've said, yeah, do it all over again. Yeah. I'm sure he would've done as well. Conquest Poland was not a mistake. So the union was not a mistake. No, it's just some of the other people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
The Prussian generals are all. Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
He might have quietly done some different decisions about Barbarossa. Maybe the timing would be different.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
But he was very sure, it seems like, maybe you can correct me, that Britain and France would still carry on with appeasement even after he invaded Poland.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
or you know i was wrong and and therefore you know we don't deserve to be a thousand year right we don't deserve to be the master race black or white us or them either or it's same all the time so can you tell the story of the molotov-ribbentrop pact in 1939 so they make an agreement nazi germany the soviet union and that leads us just like you mentioned in a matter of days
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
How compact everything is. It's just really, really fascinating.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
You tell the story of this quite beautifully, actually. Again, it's such a human story. I mean, it seems like the Stalin and Soviet... They've already made up their mind. I don't think they have. Wait, wait, wait. I mean, you described quite well that they value in-person meeting. Yes. So Chamberlain should have just gone to Moscow. Yeah, get on a plane.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Maybe it's a simplistic notion, but that could have changed the trajectory of human history right there.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Why are leaders so hesitant to meet? I'm told now by a bunch of diplomats that no, no, no, no, there's a process. At first you have to have these diplomats meet and they have to draft a bunch of stuff. I sometimes have the simplistic notion like why not meet? Why not meet? I think there is a human element there. Of course, especially when there's this
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, but there's also just, you see the humanity in others. It's so much easier, you see this in social media, it's so much easier to talk shit about others than when you're not with them. And like, military conflict is the extreme version of that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
You can construct these narratives that they're not human, that they're evil, that they're, you can construct a communist ideology, all these, you can project onto them the worst possible a version of a human, but when you meet them, you're like, oh. They are just a person. They're just a person.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And the agreement that they won't attack each other, is that right? Yeah. Do you think Stalin actually believed that?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, so either direction you think it's inevitable. I think there's a huge amount of evidence for that. Stalin probably wanted it, what, like in 42, 43? Yeah. Something like that.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And how did Churchill come to power at this moment?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
This might be a good moment to bring up this idea that has been circulating recently, brought up by Daryl Cooper, who hyperbolically stated that Churchill was the, quote, chief villain of the Second World War. To give a good faith interpretation of that, I believe he meant that Churchill forced Hitler to escalate the expansion of Nazi Germany beyond Poland into a global war.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So Churchill is the one that turned this narrow war, Czechoslovakia, Austria, Poland, into a global one. Is that accurate?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So Tank Man, what was maybe the most epic, the most intense episode?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So the thing you mentioned initially is sort of the idealist perspective of, well, Britain can't allow... sort of this warmonger to break all these pacts and be undemocratic, murder a large number of people and do conquest of territory. Okay, that's idealistic, but if we look at the realist perspective, what decisions would minimize the amount of suffering on the continent in the next 50 years?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So one of the arguments that he's making, I happen to disagree with it, to put it mildly, is that Churchill increased the amount of suffering. So Churchill's presence and decisions. So we're not talking about idealistic perspective. We're talking about the reality of the war, of Stalin, of Hitler, of Churchill, of France and FDR. Did Churchill drag Hitler into a world war?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Did he force Hitler to invade the Soviet Union? Did he force Hitler to then invade, attack Britain?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And France, most likely, yes, also. He would have done a deal with Britain. Britain could have coexisted. So actually, there is a possible reality. I don't know. Maybe you can correct me on this. where Hitler basically takes all of Europe except Britain.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, I think it should be said, if we measure human suffering... if there was not Britain on the other side, if it was not a two-front war, that the chances of Hitler succeeding in the Soviet Union is much higher, or at least a more prolonged war, and there would be more dead, and more enslaved, and more tortured, and all of this.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I should say that in your book, one of the wonderful things you do is you use the correct term in the language for the particular army involved, whether it's the German or the British or the American.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah, there's complex ethical discussions here about, just as you described.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Which are fascinating. And war is hell. And there's many ways in which it is hell. just for a little bit to steal man what Daryl is, where he might be coming from, is since World War II, the simplistic veneration of Churchill sort of saying Churchill good, Hitler bad, has been used as a template to project onto other conflicts to justify military intervention.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And so his general, his and other people like libertarians, for example, resistance to that overly simplistic veneration of somebody like Churchill, has to do with the fact that that seems to be by neocons and warmongers in the military industrial complex in the United States and elsewhere, using Hitler way too much, using Churchill way too much to justify invading everywhere and anywhere.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
In 1939, what was the state of the militaries? What were the most powerful militaries on the world stage at that time?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And we should say that Mussolini, maybe you can correct me, but I don't think at any point he wants a war.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
And I think you make clear that he was, I mean, there's always like this little brother jealous of Hitler kind of situation because he wanted absolute power. The way Hitler did. But doesn't have it. Doesn't have it. Because it's a king. Yeah, there's a... Monarchy. Often forgotten. It's amazing. So there's always this limit. And Hitler quite brilliantly, once he gets some power, he takes it all.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So you mentioned in the sea who were the dominant armies. Who was dominant in the air?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So those are the two biggest air forces. Luftwaffe, we should say, German. I mean, they're like the...
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So there's that clash, the battle of Britain, the clash of air forces. What explains the success of Britain in defending?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So why is there this legend of the Luftwaffe?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So it has to do with the Blitzkrieg.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
Yeah. I think I also have an element in me where I can believe in the idea of nation and fight for a nation, especially when the conflict is grand. The thing's worse than death. Yes, as the propaganda would explain very clearly, but also in reality, yes. So a nation, you know, France, Britain was maybe facing the prospect of being essentially enslaved. The Soviet Union,
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So it has to do with training, really. Yeah. Not training enough.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
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Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So in that sense, you could think of World War II as a battle of factories. Yes. What does it take to win in the battle of factories, in out-manufacturing military equipment?
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
was facing the prospect of being enslaved literally. I mean, it was very, very clearly stated what they're going to do. They're going to repopulate the land with Germanic people.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
So you actually have an incredible video. You talk about this a lot from different angles, about the top five tanks and the bottom five tanks of World War II. I think, was it the Tiger that made both the top five and the bottom five? The problem with the Tiger tank is it's really huge. We should say that you keep saying the problem, but one of the pros of the Tiger tank... It's really huge.
Lex Fridman Podcast
#470 – James Holland: World War II, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin & Biggest Battles
I mean, the psychological warfare aspect of it is terrifying. Yes.
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, what did he do that's illegal?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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By guns, how many were there?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What else was it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So if they're saying, well, yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Nine years. I think Diddy and his pride, he won't want to cop out anything. That's what everybody says. I think he would rather lose. You're right. Well, I think he doesn't think he can lose. Right. Well, he's been on top of everything for... You know, big, powerful people like that and the Bill Cosby and all that, that perversion centers around their ego.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he hasn't followed the rules for I don't know how long. Right. He's not going to start now.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It doesn't. Not feds. Feds are – state is different. You can win at the state.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The state is actually more fair than the feds when it comes to court. I just recently got some – the AirPod Maxes. Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They are the most perfect headphones I've ever put over my ears.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They're $600 headphones.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh my god. So I know somebody who knows somebody that fell off a truck out of state. $250 I got these things for.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They're super comfortable. um just how they're shaped their iphone their their apple yeah they sync right up they just and it just sits over your ear very comfortable the styling of it they feel premium i hate them so i can't have something like that here's why it's the same reason that i'll watch like when i was on the run
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You see Diddy?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you were into the game that much? I wasn't, but I'd never played it before.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Why did you throw potheads? Potheads are good people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There are no good women out there. There's no good women.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You've got to binge watch it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's odd. The concept is the blacklist.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't either.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Because I think that the things that... So your thing was doing something specific. Right. Whereas Zach would do all these kind of things. He's got credit cards, checks. This thing, this thing, this thing. Bank accounts. So in order to keep all that stuff live... This thing, well, let me get this guy and this guy. It's a shortcut in getting money this way.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then this thing, I need this guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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This is my favorite television show.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I was asking if you saw it. I love it. And then you went into- I thought you, I'm sorry. I thought you didn't know what it was and I was trying to explain. I absolutely love it. I think, I don't know the actor's name.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm looking at him, too.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Is it James Spader? I think that is him. I think his portrayal of him is just... I couldn't imagine anyone else.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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When they did that thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But his portrayal of him is just so crazy. The first three seasons were... Just had me like this. And I haven't had a television show... I like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I love shows like that. I love shows like that where you get just immersed in it and all these things are going on and you know the payoff is going to be way later, but you see everything kind of coming together.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You've got to kind of watch and pay attention to stuff.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I call that smart TV where you have to actually think and stuff. It's not like reality sitcoms. Idiot box.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, and you will know in an hour and a half.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I don't mind the theories. Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Ten seasons, it's over. And even it's over, and they still don't really know The spoiler stuff. Like, they still don't know who Reddington's... They don't... They're not positive.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I saw something that Reddington was, what's the girl? Her mother. And that the spy... Reddington was the mother? Yep. And she got a sex change because she was like a spy. But then they went into like showing all these different reasons why it could be. And then like him and Dembe's interaction, like how he loves him and kisses him on the forehead. You know, that's a very Italian thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So it's not... But like... Once you look at it through those eyes, I'm like, could it be? And then there was like this DNA. There was an episode where one of the black listers was a DNA guy. And then like the post-credit look, there was like this interaction where it could be. I don't know. I went down that rabbit hole.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The Blacklist. Best songs. These are all... And we just bring it up organically.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I love how he does that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They're in that box. Yes. That lock. Okay, I remember.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like I want to just feel the sun bathe my face one more time. And I'm watching them like, just once more. Yeah, you can do it. Once more.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He went to the shoot. Yeah, yeah. What now? He in jail. Yeah, he in jail. Exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because the code of conduct is different.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That part-time job. Yeah. It wasn't a part-time job.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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CEO walks in. Talk to you. Hey, talk to you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Is that all your game time? Yeah, that's crazy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Jess, we're going to start a thing where you just text me once a week.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, we'll look into it, which means you're about to sit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Just once a week. Just shoot a thumbs up text. Say, listen, you know, I'm still, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I definitely got a narcissistic streak in me somewhere.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Fish? I don't, what else would I have? I mean, single, so I wouldn't have the Mrs. on there or, you know. What do you have, baby? A fish.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I've seen clips and pieces.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But they say that's what the Terminator whole premise is. Once AI gets smart, the biggest threat to humanity is humans.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Every time I went to confine, man, I knew exactly. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was definitely a... Well, I was an athlete. So I'm on the football field. I'm on the basketball. I ran with that circuit of guys. I wasn't in the law libraries or anything. I ran with that circuit.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And this is the 60s version. You know, I'm thinking of the one- Of AI. It's great. But I'm thinking of the, I think more recent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And because I went with that athletic, so it was always something on the basketball court, something on the football field, something on the.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Arguments. Yeah, you know how we are. It's two to three. We're going to play another game. But this game is important. Every game is the championship. Every single game is the championship.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, these guys are. It's aggressive flag football. Shirts are getting torn.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. It's aggressive non-context war.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And while she's looking at it, she's like, so did I get eggs this morning? No, she's not paying attention. She's just like, yeah, okay, so I have to go. This guy done.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'll do that. I forget what the question was. And now I'm thinking about God. It was a phone background.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Can you imagine, right? Imagine if it was a real topic. You know, I was just looking at a thing on the God question and stuff. I don't really know where I stand on it. but like um a very smart neil degrasse brought up a great point and he says that he thinks god is right on the edge of what we know like what we've so before we thought it was round and before we knew about the universe and
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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God was there, we learned this, so God got here. And it's always right on the precipice of our understanding and knowledge. I think that is squarely where God lives.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We really don't know. We don't know anything about God because there has never been verified documentation and or proof, especially in this day and age of documenting things and proof. What we do know is that the documentation that we have it was written down during a time where they believed in when people had seizures, they called it, what it is called? When you get exorcism.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh yeah, they were possessed. They were possessions and all of that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because we didn't have the understanding. So once our understanding grew, God went beyond that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's the only thing we have. We've got literature that was written during the time before, but it hasn't shifted.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Do you think AI... Do you think there gets to a point where AI becomes... Without a doubt, there's going to be a different... AI is everything. I think it'll be... Ultimately, it'll be devastating. No, AI is giving us an understanding of things that we couldn't really understand. Like, once we figure out AI and know how to use it as a tool, it'll be just a tool, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I saw that. AI is the future, man. I love it. I'm scared and I love it at the same time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't think that's the case. I'm old enough to know, to be around when computers started. And like the older generation, like, oh, computers are going to be taking the jobs. And when Walmart got big and all of these companies, Walmart's going to take the smaller business. No, it's called evolution. It did take the smaller business.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You just weren't a small business owner, so you don't think it was devastating. But the small businesses have to evolve. It's called evolution. Or we would still be stuck in the 60s.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But Home Depot is coming. Well, I understand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Or you take your business and you change it to where it's, you know, You have to change because times are changing. You can't survive as Harold's hardware store anymore. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Plastic with water on it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We don't know yet.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You just have to change and do something else. Well, I understand. Like 60 years ago. We still got YouTube. Well, 60 years ago, cats were churning butter.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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mob betsy churning butter and they're on the farm and fast forward it's you know everything is kind of automated you've got the big machines that go down the farm they get all the corn those people aren't jobless they're just doing other things like you i think they're jobless i think it's over yeah no i think it devastates the economy yeah not at all
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And as we're evolving, as we're evolving, there's more people being born into the country by the, you know, hundreds of thousands. It's just that these people are doing different things.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What am I doing, man? Hold on. Christ. Here it is right now. Yeah, my Wednesday's booked up. Can we make it Thursday? Okay. Evening. March.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It is. I'll be like. What?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There's old Jess. How you doing? I ain't seen you in a.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay. All right, Thanos.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What are you doing? That will be the advancement of our society. So now all of that tech will be integrated in what we do. It's not going to wean us out. It's just that how we're going to be.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The Time Guy thing?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's going to go bad. I think all through time, even when you look back in, like, the 70s, all the older guys, well, it's good. These advent of computers, it's the downfall of society. If you fast forward, like, 50 years, if you fast forward, like... There's going to be new tech, and we're going to evolve. I'm not saying that. Things are going to be more computerized.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't think they're going to take the jobs. Really? It'll just open up doors for things because that's what's coming. Robots and assistants, that is what's coming. You can't strap on the horse and buggy anymore. Like times are changing. So we as a society have to change. Oh, the robots are, oh, the government is all... Time out. They're coming. So we have to adjust as a society.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they're safer drivers than some of these.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So now we don't have these waiting lists. And like you, it takes you till next year to get on the list. Now with the assistance. It's immediate. Now it's well, we'll schedule you for Tuesday.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think it's just like when Amazon came and everybody was like, oh, it's going to. just killed small business and the growth of Amazon. And it's, it's, I think it's, it, Amazon evolved us as the way we do business, the way we shop. It changed Walmart. Now Walmart changes its whole business.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Remember Walmart was such a conglomerate because not only it was huge, but it was 24 hours, the convenience of Walmart, everything kind of, evolves and i think ai is the pivotal moment for america and not even america for the world and once we develop ai once we teach the computer to help us think it will open up all these doors like open up cures
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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for cancers and because the AI will be able to think better and faster than we can.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, maybe it's called evolution.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I think it has always grown.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Sounds Ponzi.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I can monitor and I can monitor the Tesla bot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And that's a part of the future. I hear you. I don't fear that. I look forward to that. And I don't think that it's gonna not, it's gonna take away jobs and all of that. I don't think that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They don't have to take... Now, it's in a good way, but it's also a bad way. But there'll still be a need for human supervision. But not three. Okay, so the other two have to do something else. They're not going to be like, oh, I can't do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't know. I kind of like him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And then the loved one gets far, far off and the love gets less and the appeals get spaced out more. Yeah, they want him close.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Big time, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
I'm making copies.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Oh, really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Oh, really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Too High for Crime: Real Stories of Hilarious Hustle Fails
Where do you live?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think there are people like that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I don't surround myself with good people. Good people don't want anything to do with me. I would say my sister is, you know, my sister.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I mean they send me books. If I need money, they put money on my books, but I never ask like my sister or brother or anybody like that. See, you know why? Because you love them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Periodically, my mother would put money on my books. My literary agent would put money on my books. But I very quickly – once I started writing – I always worked. I always had some kind of a hustle in there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
And then I, once I started, you know, once I started, um, uh, writing, I, I very quickly, it was like, like the second story I wrote, I optioned the story and I got a check for like 6,000 some odd dollars. And then I got a check for like $3,500 for an advance. So in prison you get 10 grand, you're rich.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
That's it. Like the, the, it was on top of one of the building. It was like a little shack where they have a utility shed. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I had already failed at pretty much everything else. I found myself in prison with 25 plus years. Yeah, I guess.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think they're just trying to pass the time by playing chess and walking the track and playing basketball. And, you know, that's what they're doing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You're still married? Yes, absolutely. Oh, I assumed you were remarried. No, no, no, no, no. So she's walking around. She's the woman walking around in the background periodically?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
She probably thinks she's amazing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
That's perfect. Generosity of women never ceases to amaze me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I assumed that was over. No. You were in the middle of a divorce. You were getting separated.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I have no doubt it was your fault.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You don't have to convince me. I spent two hours. You see what I mean? I spent two hours and I'm sure I only got a fraction of it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I read The Fountainhead, which, listen, I read that book and you could have shaved 300 pages off that book and it would have been all right. Oh, dude.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You know, he was so used to people just blindly believing everything he said.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think he's a good looking guy. So it was somewhat successful, right?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I mean, yeah, if you're just made it appear so if you're willing to blatantly lie to your customers, you can you can be really successful. Hey, who ain't? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
um did you ever see did you ever see this tv series dirty john oh yes so that guy really like i my my wife and i watched that last week we actually finished which guy because there's because there's more than one story in that series no totally the main guy john john whatever his name is the main guy that got killed for for for yeah for the woman the wife ex-wife killed him
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
No, it wasn't the ex-wife. It was the daughter. There's four or five different stories. Okay, you're talking about the series. I'm talking about the original.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Yes. He really, really reminds me of Marcus Schrenker.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Where he could blatantly look at you and be like, I can't believe she's behaving like that. I mean, it was so over the top. It was like he was – he's one of those guys – you ever sit – and this happens in prison a lot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You ever sit in prison and you're watching a TV show and something funny happens and everybody kind of laughs and you see one guy kind of look around and then he goes – and you understand that you – you don't really get what just happened. Yes. Yes. Like you're a complete psychopath. Like you can't, you can't, you can't see the irony.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Can't see that any kind of, any kind of, he can't empathize at all with the, you know, he, he doesn't, he's not able to see the humor in certain things. So he kind of fake laughs and fakes emotion. And so as a result, they're just kind of, sometimes they're,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. I wrote I wrote I got a smiley face with a frown on it. I don't like this guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What I'm saying is I didn't stab someone. I didn't kidnap someone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, here's the difference. It's like when people say they get into a fight with their wife. A fight is physical. You got into an argument with your wife. I didn't physically harm anyone. Did I financially inconvenience people? Absolutely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, and that would be great if I didn't – and I hear you. But since I know exactly who lost money and how much money they lost. No, you don't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I absolutely do. You know who's on the Board of Bank of America? The board – you think the board – you think I crippled the Board of Bank of America?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Who lost money? Who lost money? Bank of America lost $2 million.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The board doesn't have a financial investment in Bank of America. Yes, they do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's owned by stockholders.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you think Bank of America is worth probably what? $4 billion? $4 billion? $8 billion, $12 billion. So that's how you're going to justify it because they got enough money. What I'm saying is that I don't think that anybody on the board or that owns stock in Bank of America or has an account with Bank of America, I don't think anybody couldn't buy even – I don't think I cost them even a Pepsi.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't think I cost them a stick of gum. I see what you're saying. If you divide $2 million into the net worth of that company, whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You couldn't even say it was one cent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No. I don't think I changed in not one policy by Fraga Bear because they lost so little money. And on top of that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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His whole thing was you, you find out that you're, you're, you're next door neighbors doing dirt and, and he fucking, uh, you go and just tell him, I think his name is Bob. He was Bill. You're just going to tell on Bob? Some racial slur. I was like, is Bob a fucking criminal? Like, I'm going to tell on Bob. Fuck Bob. And he was just like, you're just going to do that? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He was furious. He's up walking around. When they had to change the cartridges, he gets up, he walks around.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Two thugs. Here's the thing. I feel fairly confident, not 100% confident, but fairly confident he's not going to do anything. What I think he's more upset about is he's more upset about the fact that I, I, before I went on, I told him, do you know my story? Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Oh yeah. I stuck. I already watched. I already watched your story. I know the whole thing. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I know something about it. And I said, okay, well then let's, I'll yeah, absolutely. I'll meet you. Yeah. It's going to be great episode. I guess it is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I think he's probably got like 600,000, 700,000 subscribers. He puts out videos a couple times a week. He's living off of that show. Damn. Yeah. What else is he going to do?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean so I didn't really – so I had written all these stories, and I knew I was going to try and market them. But I knew that wasn't going to probably pay my bills. If we didn't live in an age where people couldn't get it for free, I think it was good enough that you could – Well, I thought I wanted to start a true crime podcast, but I didn't know what that meant exactly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I only knew because I'd read some articles about it. So I knew somehow I wanted to do something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I thought something more heavily edited. I like the unedited part of this. Yeah, I like the fact that it's not really the back and forth. But, you know, it would have been more it would have been much more personal. there would have been a higher production value.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They, you know, they do the music, they do the whole, you know, the, the, they're, you know, you take a story, you break it into like eight parts and that's a season.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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One, it takes a lot of guts to say it, but two, I don't think it humiliated him. Do you see what I'm saying? You're assuming... Yeah, I do hear what you're saying. Now that you say that, man, I'm like, wow. Yeah, I didn't think that way. Yeah, because to me, it's like when people will say...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like with me, if I tell somebody, like I never shy away from, yeah, I was in prison, this happened, this happened, I did this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't have a problem with that at all. And if to me, that person, they're offended, then they don't have to be a part of my life. I'm okay with that. But if they look at me a certain kind of way, like, oh, you were this, you were that, that doesn't make me feel humiliation at all. It makes me real. It's just a nice, it helps me separate. Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, that's what I thought was he was out, gone. I later found out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's a great, great host. I mean, he's, you know, we got him to start a podcast. It's called Black Zach. And, uh, you know, I, I've tried to get him to do some, um, I would have called it black, black, uh, black or something or something.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, he picked it. So, um, And I, you know, I had him do his life story like in parts. And so he literally, listen, he literally, he was fully monetized within one month. That's very difficult to do. So secondly, the channel started making money, a little bit of money. And all he has to do is interview one person.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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At the rate he was going, Colby and I were basically telling him, listen, if you just interview, do one one-hour interview, at least an hour interview, once a week, in six months from now, this channel will be making $1,000. So once a week, you have to just call someone up like this and talk to them for an hour. Not so easy to do. We'll do everything else, by the way. Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, no. We'll do everything. That's all you got to do. And you can use my StreamYard account. I'll pay for everything. But guess what? He just can't do it. He's only done a couple of them, and he just – he's always got a reason he can't do it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's difficult to do. But you have to think, I'm there yelling and screaming, and I'm just at the point now where it's like, eh, listen. Because to me, look, six months from now, it's making $1,000, but in a year from now, it might be making $2,000 or $3,000. This is something that it's like working a little side hustle, just a little thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Here's the thing. It's not like, and this is the thing, a lot of people want to start a podcast, but Zach doesn't seem to understand that Like, you've got an in with me. Yeah, a big one. And you've got an in with a lot of other podcasters that I can help you with.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you're not some guy who's starting a podcast who also works his insurance job and doesn't have any ability to – any connection with anybody, other podcasters. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. I can – I'm telling you I can very help – I can very quickly help excel your podcast, and he's so likable it would probably blow up. He's likable. He's very likable, and it would blow up because I'd listen to it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I told, listen, I actually told my wife, I was like, she's like, well, what's his story? I said, honestly, I said, he's just got a knucklehead story. Yeah. It's just like super entertaining and funny about the whole thing. And he laughs the whole time. I said, it's funny listening to him tell this story. She's like, well, what do you do? I said, we didn't really do anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You know, he's basically just a drug addict that keeps getting in trouble and keeps fighting with the police and fighting with the courts and fighting this whole thing. I said, but it's funny the way he tells the story.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, we have Racetrack and Wawa.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Maybe you required some kind of attention in that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Terrorist threats.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't know. But we're in excess of three and a half hours.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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All right. Yeah, never mind. And I'm tired, and it's 10.
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So what, how are you getting money to continue doing drugs? How are you getting money?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I interviewed the guy that did that movie, Oxymorons.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That was a great movie. Yeah. The hat on the bed. Do you remember that? That was a big deal. They threw the hat on the bed and they were like, you know, someone took a hat off and threw it on the bed. Oh, yeah. It was a bad luck.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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OK, so the one lawyer, you like the one lawyer, the other lawyer you got to get rid of.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He was just like, I can't deal with this guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's going to be a problem for the rest of my life. I know these guys.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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For state charge?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. She's going to make it much worse.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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This is the old man, right? The older drunk? The drunk guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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By that point, you'll have been in prison for a year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You've already done – you've already done like – What, eight months at this point? Eight months at this point, okay? By the time this whole thing goes through, it'll be almost a year. I mean, you'll have a fucking year in on what? A stupid fucking burglary charge that's probably going to give you time served?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What were they basing the telephone harassment on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You could tell them, but then they can't allow you to get on the stand. Yeah. Is that how it is? Yeah. They can't allow you. They can't then put you on the stand and have you say, I didn't kill that girl. I don't know what you're talking about. They'd be like, no, no, we can't do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So there's all these people using your phone.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I mean, keep in mind that you can pull, I got tickets when I was on.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. I mean, they pulled me over and I'd say, here's my driver's license here. And you know, it's not my driver's license. It's a, it's a driver's license in the name of some. Yeah. They don't know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Sure. Real valid driver's license.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Have you ever had a traffic stop where they did your fingerprints?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They would have done your fingerprints there. I don't do drugs. I don't drink. I always have a driver's license, full coverage insurance. I don't get arrested for... you know, I'm not the kind of guy that drives around. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm not driving around in a stolen car with a broken taillight and a body in the trunk. If I get pulled over for a traffic ticket and I'm like, yeah, here's my driver's license. No problem.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Well, what they're saying is, no, we're just giving you the statutory max. We were giving you a break. for, for not forcing us to go to trial. Exactly. Go to trial and lose. Then you get what you should have gotten.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I didn't know he had a partner, but okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, your public defenders didn't sound that great, except for John.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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firms you know surely they do you can't make a living yeah well they're they're um oh god what they call them jc um jca lawyers or something like jc i forget somebody will tell me they're they're basically they're not public defenders they're assigned the case that's right and they all get
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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They get paid.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Pro bono work.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't care. He can't accept any money. No, sure, he can't. You could hire him for another case and overpay him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Let me explain something. They were like, I'm going to hit the fucking compound. I'm going to have an ice cream within a couple of hours. I'm going to have chips. I'm going to have coffee. I'm going to be able to walk. I'm going to have shoes. I'm going to be able to walk the compound. I'm going to have a A radio that works, an MP3 player. It was just like, are you joking?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And they're like, yeah, I'll be able to play racquetball by tomorrow. And you were like – Well, here's the thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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what's it called r d oh oh oh no you're talking about going through the processing center that's a state thing yeah yeah it must be state well they didn't none of them like that because they had to be in a cell with another guy for 30 days without leaving or whatever and they categorize them and then yes categorized that's right that's all done by the probation officer and the bob like they automatically do it so as soon as you're
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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By the time you get sentenced, you know, you get a pre-sentence report. And when you're sentenced, they send that to, they send that to, oh God, Grand Prairie. And they automatically calculate your level of, and what prison you're going to. And then they give you that assignment, and you sit in the marshal's holdover.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you might get sentenced on a Monday, and then by Friday, you might be on a bus. Typically, it takes a week or two. So you might sit in the same place you were before. You're in the marshal's holdover. You get sentenced. You go in on a Monday. You get sentenced. And then let's say within a week and a half, you're on a bus headed to your prison. Period. Period.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, like the federal system. That's what always killed me is that – you would like... I remember one time this guy showed up for like... it's like four o'clock count, right? Like they got to get him there but before four o'clock.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, he ends up being in like the... he's a white guy, he was a doctor, pulmonary specialist and he walks into the cell, you know, whatever it was, right down from me and so afterward, he like comes out and you see looking around like you can tell he's green as fuck And he walks in, he's looking around and I'm like, he's like, well, what's going on now?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I said, they're gonna call Chow in a minute. They'll open the door and then we'll all go to Chow. So you just, where's that? I said, just follow everybody.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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and i and we went and we went and we ate and i showed him go through the you know how you do it and everything well like afterwards we went we walked the track we're walking the track and as we're talking track he's like i forget what he got six years or eight years or something and as we're walking the track he says yeah i know man like today i was this morning i was in we were eating at panera and and i'm like panera panera bread and he goes yeah and i went
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You turned yourself in? You got an eight-year sentence, and you turned yourself in? He was like, oh, yeah, I've been out for like the last four months.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Fuck, bro. I'm not turning myself in to go to prison for eight years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What would it have taken for you to stop? The 13 years did it like the 26 years and the 13 that I did did it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I think an appropriate sentence for me at that time, based on the fact that I had four indictments in four different jurisdictions, I'd stole in excess of $15 million personally, not with Code Offense, just personally. Yeah, your own. Right. I was on the run. So I think all of those things, all the enhancements, everything, I think if they had given me – I don't mean that, though.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean you personally – I'm saying if I was the judge and I was sitting there, what would I have given you is what you're asking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's about punishment. But okay, so I would say 10 years. Here's why.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because the judge already in his mind, when he says 10 years, he already knows, eh, he's looking at eight and a half. No, not five. Not in the federal system. You're fucking kidding me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But you got left. Okay, go ahead. No. So the judge would have said 10 years. He's going to do get eight and a half because he's getting a year and a half off for good time. He's going to get a year off for the drug program. He's at seven and a half. He's probably going to get close to a year in a halfway house. So he's going to do about six and a half to seven years if he behaves himself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, no, no problems. That would have been enough for me to go. I can't do it again anymore. To be honest, if he had given me probably five or so, if he'd given me five years, you have to understand if he'd give me five years mentally, I would have been out in what, two years at that point, maybe even maybe even a year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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If I'd gone straight in the drug program, I would have been out in probably a year. So I did on two years on five. And I've seen people do that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I don't think so. I think at that point, I would have said, fuck that. If that's all I did for two years for what I did, now I know what to do. I was just too fucking cocky. The truth is, 10 years would have placed me in a spot where... You didn't think it was worth risking it? It would have been because by that point, I would have been in my my mid forties. Yep. I'd have been like,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, listen, by the time you get to... You'd have been thinking about it, though, eh?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The difference is this. The difference is you get to your 40s, your body starts to hurt. You have to realize, I can't do this much longer.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You start thinking... I mean, if you're smart, you start thinking... physically and mentally, where am I going to be at 60 and how, and I need to prepare myself to be in a position where when I get to 65 and if I have to, if I can, maybe I can go to 66 or 67, but when I retire, I need to have a place where that retirement check or that social security covers my bills.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I have a paid off house, cars, Right. Cars like you start doing that and you go, I don't legally I probably don't have enough time. Now, granted, everybody's like, oh, you're smart. You could do this. You could do that. I can't. They don't ever calculate the risk, the risk of me going out and buying three houses, renovating those houses and selling those houses. They go, oh, yeah, you buy it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You renovate it. You sell it. You're going to make forty thousand dollars on each fucking. Listen, you've watched too much, too much. Yeah, I know what you're saying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm arrogant and I'm cocky and I'm fucking narcissistic and I just thought I was too fucking smart and they weren't going to catch me because they're all fucking idiots.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I got caught in a bank handcuffed by a police station and convinced them that – They had the wrong person. I've been in a bank where I've had fucking bank managers looking at me, practically telling me, I know this is a fraud. The guy said that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The Secret Service showed up and told him who I was. A week later, the Secret Service showed up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The guys that go to the RDAT program have a lower recidivism rate than anybody. Who says? Who says that? The RDAT program, the government statistics, the Bureau of Prisons. I don't know where – I'm not sure where you're getting your statistics.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm just saying. You don't have them, but they do. They're not dumping the money into that program because they're not being able to show.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I mean, I can tell you right now the RDAP program does. But anyway. How do you know that, though? Well, I mean, I know. Okay. Well, first of all, what you're basing your opinion on or what you're basing your opinion on is just your opinion. What I'm basing my opinion on is what they. That's not just an opinion.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What they expect and don't expect is irrelevant, in my opinion. What I'm saying is that if there were – you're saying because they feel entitled to get it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So if they if they went in and they were appreciative to have it, would you then offer them the program?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't really know anybody that thinks they have a right to. But what they think is it would be better for society.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right. Do you want to know?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Go ahead. So it's about $36,000 to keep an inmate in prison. Now, that's what the Bureau of Prisons is paid to keep them there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What does it cost?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Did you say paid? For every inmate, the budget... requires 30, about 35 to $36,000 per inmate that they receive every year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What are you saying? I'm not done. Okay. The second. So that's the first thing. How much are they reimbursed per year per inmate? About 30. Let's say let's round it down to 35,000. Okay. That's one thing. The second thing is now how much does it cost society to, to have an inmate in prison. It costs about $54,000 to $55,000. Now here's why.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because when you remove that person, you remove them from the tax base. Yes, I get that. Right. So you cost everything across what you cost.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, that's a stupid argument, but I think –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It's about thirty six thousand dollars.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What I know, the $55,000, let's say. Let's round it to $55,000. The $55,000 that it costs just in general society is you take the $35,000 minus the $55,000. You got about $20,000 is what's typically paid in that those people aren't paying in in taxes. And that's property taxes. That's, you know, that's Social Security. That's Medicare. That's employment taxes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's all those taxes that they could be out there earning. Now, if you're saying, no, these people are not out there earning. Right. They're not. They're in prison. So, you know, but even before they were in prison, well, they were committing crimes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
The argument is if they were productive citizens making an average, an average, they would be contributing to society. So the goal is to get them to not come back to prison. Now you're saying, hey, let's make prison so horrible they don't want to go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Listen, bro, I'm with you. You know what? If it was up to me, I get it. Fuck these public schools. Those kids don't need to know how to read. They can work in factories. And you know what? As a matter of fact, you know, I'll give me a gun. I'll police myself. We don't need the police. I hear you. If you see where you're going.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
is so you know fuck it let's have three tiers you can pay your way out you can you can put somebody in jail for five years hard labor or you can just execute them like i hear all of your the argument you got that you got that all twisted up it's not not it's not the same thing as saying we're going to get rid of the public schools and listen these are adults these aren't no it's not it's not the same thing the constitution doesn't guess what the constitution doesn't say anywhere that we have to educate the poor
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
We have to pay for education.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
So is it a good idea for society to educate the poor?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think they're better than – And then at the same time – I think it's better than not educating anybody.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
just because of the public there's plenty you send your kid to private school there's plenty of educational opportunities public school you think you think that some somebody that works at mcdonald can afford to send their child to a private school
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I'm not sure who's saying that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You know what I mean? I don't know on my program who said that. Who said what?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
He's the smartest one on the – Okay, I think the attitude might be they should –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think 90% of their message overlaps. There is 10% difference.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Look, they both say – they both talk about men doing what? Being more confident. Being men.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
No. Behaving like men.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Be chivalrous.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Here's the thing. I think you've been watching the TikToks. If you've ever watched a full episode on him. Oh, yes, I've watched it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Well, I think the difference. Well, wait a minute. First of all. He doesn't have to be a good guy. You don't have to be a good guy. Yeah, but you say you are. No, no, you don't have to be a good guy. You're telling me this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Are you telling me that if you're telling me if a multiple murderer sat here and told me you should be polite, you should read more, you should be educated, you should go to college. I see where that's going wrong. Because he happened to have killed three people? Oh, you're right. So it's the message, not the messenger.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You sat down and you wrote out all of the things that they say that are similar, I'll bet you'd come up with a hundred of them and I'll bet you 90 of them would overlap.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
It's what's called – it's called a lover boy scam.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
That's what the press does. Yes. And if you don't look into it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think – What bothers me is that I disagree with his delivery, but I agree with about 90 percent.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think 90% of the message... Listen, I think 90% of he and Jordan Peterson say about the same thing. Only Tate's message... I think Tate is so overbearing... The way he says things is that it becomes lost.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Wes Watson. I think 90% of what Wes Watson says is absolutely spot on. But when you're screaming and hollering and yelling and calling people bitches and punks and talking about slapping people, like, I'm sorry, we're done. I can't listen to you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I was contacted by a guy who was a prison guard. who actually told me that Big Hurt – do you know what dry snitching is? I get the concept of it. You're basically snitching on somebody, but you're not getting anything for it. You're just telling on them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Yeah, dry snitching is when you're not getting anything. There's no benefit for you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
The guards will even say that, like, bro, you're dry snitching. Like like you're telling me something and you're going to get nothing for this. I don't know what you're doing right now. And, you know, like sex offenders are big on doing that. But but oh, I bet the slimy, greasy that they are this this guard who was apparently said he was in a California state prison. He said that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Big Herc on multiple occasions dry snitched on other inmates like talking about, hey, there's going to be a – Are you talking about Big Herc or Wes? You're talking about Big Herc. Okay. Not Wes Watson. Okay. That's why I just changed that. It wasn't Wes Watson. It was Big Herc. But he had all these things. He wrote me a whole thing and was like this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
And he was like, bro, you need to do an episode on this because this is what happened. Maybe you should. And what I told him was, okay, great. You're a CO. Then – get me the cop-outs, get me the reports. Or I said, tell me what institutions he was at and give me the reports and I'll do a Freedom of Information Act. I don't have to mention your name. I said, but help me out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I can't just take your word for it. Unless you wanna come on the program and you wanna tell me this from your mouth. He didn't have the guts to do that, I bet. He said, oh, I'll get you the information. I sent him like two response to email.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I like to me. I'll tell you that conversation. People can hear that conversation. I'm telling you right now. I got no proof that that's true. That may have just been some man who's just mouthing off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Listen, your lawyer was right. You shouldn't have let them charge you with the lesser charge. Then they would have just found you're not guilty.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
There was an SO one time and the guy was like a Marine. So he's an SO and he's a Marine. Listen, he knocked out two or three dudes that mouthed off to him. So it's like, yeah, he is an SO. But he's also a Marine. Yeah. Like guys, there are these guys walk around like and they'll make a comment. He'll be like, hey, no, you need to watch it. Boom. He just knock him out. Guy drops on the ground.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Dudes are like, leave that motherfucker alone. That's right. If they're going to pay any amount of price, that's what happens. I thought he couldn't walk the yard. I thought that dude had to have paperwork. Yeah. That dude walked in wherever he wanted to do because after you knock three guys out, all these hard-ass guys don't want to – they're in a soft low. They don't want to go anywhere.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
They've been to the thin. They've been to the medium.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
So that's that's my whole thing. Guys will be like, oh, you should have this. You said, listen, stop, stop. I'm not the guy that's going to walk around acting like I'm a badass. I'm not going to walk around talking shit about this show or this guy that I'm not doing it. I want to make my time as easy as possible. If nobody's bothering me, I will bother no one. I want to make this easy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
It's bad enough that I'm fucking.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
yeah that's right well i can't walk around being like oh that dude over there is a snitch oh fuck him we need to check his paper oh that dude there he's a he's a he's a he's a he's a show well yeah run him off the earth man i'm not what are you doing yeah leave me alone yeah leave me out of it you yeah exactly i don't want to be around i'm not going to associate with him but i'm not going to act like i'm going to run around and i'm the savior of the planet i'm going to start listening
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Listen, the guys that talk like that, you get to a point where you're like, I don't even want to be around you now. You're such an asshole about this whole thing. You bring it up all the time. You run your mouth constantly.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Could you could you do that? I mean, and it's just very difficult. The burden of proof is really high. Like you have to basically prove that they knew or did maliciously. Yeah, it's not maliciously, but basically almost like, yeah, almost. Yes. Like they did it on purpose. Like they knew or they at least should have known. And honestly, the way it, you know, it's it's so difficult.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Yeah, it sounded to me like he was.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Yeah. So legitimate. Like, how are you going to win that? You were legitimate. So what they should have done was they're going to say, look, they took them, took them several weeks to even check the receipt. They never even checked his alibi. They immediately like they, you know, they're going to say all that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Right. They probably just shrugged off his story immediately. Yeah. He's fucking lying. But then again, they hear so many lies. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Yeah, to a degree.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
I think the problem is I think the problem is that you're just not going to find a perfect system.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Everybody's doing that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Tell me what makes you think you're a narcissist. Well, I'm not saying I'm on the high. I'm at the high end of the spectrum.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Absolutely. And I also think that there there are only maybe maybe you are. There are very few things that get me emotional. Maybe four. There are four topics that I can even start to talk about and immediately well up. For the most part, I'm extremely harsh. It just doesn't affect me. It doesn't bother me. I see other people getting upset.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
This doesn't feel like a super sophisticated criminal justice system.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Um, But yeah, I think I just don't think you're a narcissist as bad as you did. Maybe I think you're arrogant. I think what happens is people immediately say that and people say that and they think, oh, my God, and they think the worst possible. It's like saying, well, I had anti I suffer from antisocial disorder. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
That's it's really that you're probably 95 percent of the people in prison. in some form are on that spectrum. Now, they're not Jeffrey Dahmer, but let's face it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Is my welfare more important than society's? Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
Right. But a lot of people don't. Like a lot of people- Who doesn't? A lot of people- Who doesn't think that? Liars? I'm just saying a lot of people would sit there and they don't do things that... Listen, there are people that work at food kitchens because they want to. That's insane.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Wrongfully Convicted in the Weirdest Trial Ever
You're not lying. At least you don't lie about like, I don't understand how you're, you're saying that they're charitable. People are charitable. I think a lot of people aren't lying.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Mm-hmm.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside Outlaw Biker Gangs | ATF Agent Shares Insane Stories
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
America’s Most Disturbing Killer | The Case of Mark Latunski
Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
He's a badass sitting at a booth at Denny's.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Why? Why am I riding with you?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
So they wait for her to open.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
It says that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
It says that. Elon Musk doesn't say that. No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Wait, that's part of the deal?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
What do you mean never resolved? Like they never found out who killed him? To this day. Where did they kill him?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
I don't want people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah, and the bar owner now is questioning whether he's going to get his license or not. So –
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Phil just got you 10 grand. Nothing without him.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
He can't provide any contract with me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
What did he say? I mean, did he say, I'll take it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Okay. Well, so, I mean, you never?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
What about the judge? What was the judge's name?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Okay. Okay. So my other question is, so what did you do after that? You just – you owned – how many bars did you own?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Did did did you ever after, you know, after you separated from Sonny, did you ever ever did your bar ever get hit by the cops?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Okay. So what happened with the feds? The feds... Like you slipped out of there before they... Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
How did you know it was Sonny? I mean, I know you knew, but did she say step outside? No, she didn't say.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
I mean, you said he got a year. A year and a half. That was nothing. What happened when he got out? He went right back to it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
I'm like, they always get you. Those guys are always jackasses. You know, the guys that, you know, God, I'm not paying that. Really? You're not going to pay a ticket? They're going to suspend you? Like, they're going to win.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
You're going to spend way more than $1,500 to fix all this damage.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah, there's a, yeah, there's, it's funny how corrupt, you know, especially at the lower levels, they can be super corrupt.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
I mean, I bribed a politician, you know.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
I wrote a story for a guy. They used to take, go to their competitors and they would just pull up in the parking lot and they would take slink. They had those like, like really nice slingshots and they would take ball bearings and And just shoot out. And then he was like, this, this happened. Like just con we could do it all the time. They're knocking holes in the windows, taking out their signs.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah. He's like, just knock it. It's like their, their, their front of their building is always shot to shit. And eventually the, the strip mall owner will be like, yeah, you got to go.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah. Like you're these guys who, I don't know what your, what your problem is, but somebody just got it. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah. If you want to, you can make somebody miserable.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah, I've done that in the past, too. But you don't have to fire a shotgun at them. Yeah, that's a bad idea. The ball-bearing thing is way better.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
I was thinking, well, I was thinking we were going to have somebody park a tow truck in the front and just start towing the vehicle.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
You latch them, take them out of there. Have you seen, listen, those tow truck guys, have you seen them on TikTok? Oh, yeah, yeah. They're f***ing. Yeah. I mean, they're. They're quick now. Just sitting there, boom, got the guy, and then they drive off, and you see the guy running out of the house. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Better give me the car. Just take the car.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
And what else we got?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
What are these guys? I get Sonny's like just not paying his taxes, but I mean, how do you pay your taxes on just straight? Are like, are these guys figuring out like the, the one guy you, well, you know, Sonny, it was Sonny. It wasn't that, that had the, somebody had a sandwich shop and he, so he's trying to run money through that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
How do these people get their money? There's coins in, coins out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. I mean, how hard is it for them to just play, win, and have you hand them the money? It's hard to win.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
Oh, so then what? Then they just hit and they go, hey, this thing owes me money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Casino Boss Explains How To Beat The System...
What did they say? How do I get paid off? I just, I just fed this 80 bucks into this machine. I just hit for 500. How do I get my money?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
scam like for the definition of this podcast is kind of an idea to gain money the problem is that's how you and i look at it as a free 30 grand to them they're like it's a credit line you're like no no no That's not the way this works. I promise you, it's free.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
But when we were locked up, we were thinking they would pay you, but they won't pay you. No. And the thing is, too, it's a service. It's not insurance because they just don't insure you. Right. But they will pay for the fees, which honestly is the biggest...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
hurdle if something happens like right you're trying to like you got like a 40 50 hour a week job and you're driving back and forth like when do you have time to write all those letters and try and fix all this you know if you're a real victim if you really are a victim like that's the problem like you got to write letters you got to send emails you have to make phone calls like man i'm working till five or six o'clock i don't even get home till 6 30 right then my kids are screaming i gotta make dinner i got you know like when are you calling anybody you gotta start taking days off work to try and fix it
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah. Yeah. No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Jess has killed just about every animal there is in Florida. She's butchered them. She can cut them open, take out the guts, skin them, and put all the good stuff in a freezer and then eat it. She's already told me they'll never find your body. She's like, I mean, I get it. Like there are girls that cute, they flirt with you. They send you messages and I get it. And that's great.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
I'm sorry, that's so wrong. It is.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
I was going to say, what's funny is people don't realize you can open a corporation and then you can open up a DBA or a corporation similar. You could say, let's say there's this drink, Ghost Energy drink. Then you could open up a corporation that says that's Ghost... Distributor. Yeah, Ghost Distributor, Ghost Productions, Ghost Energy. Ghost Energy drink two. Yes. Whatever. It's like...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
you know, of Tampa Bay, you know, of Florida or whatever. You just add anything onto it that changes it subtly. And then the next thing you know, you know, you can go open up a bank account in that name and deposit checks, you know, or any variation of that name because the banks just don't check.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah, I used to have a company, you know, Consortium Financial Services. They would write Consortium Mortgage. This is people paying me.
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They'd send me, oh, Consortium Mortgage, Consortium Bank, Consortium whatever, you know, home loans. It's like it's Consortium Financial Services. Sometimes it would just be Consortium. Right. You just deposit them, deposit them. The bank never said, oh, wait a second. This is an issue.
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Yeah, we did a whole – that video got a lot of views. That's the Kellogg video.
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She goes, but I'm just letting you know, they'll never find your body. Like I didn't even have to follow up on that.
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$7 million Kellogg's game. Yeah. Selling, no, stealing $7 million from Kellogg's. Yes. That just sounds horrible. Yeah, yeah. That got like 70,000 views. Wow. That's not bad for my channel. And that was like a year ago. That was a year ago. It must have been just before. Yes, right. The incident. Yes.
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What does that mean? What do you guys just like as new as ominous?
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Yeah, you're not doing it. You know what's so funny is my mindset back then, it was never going to be over. I used to always say, man, if I just got a few million dollars, if I got a few million dollars, I would have said, that was easy.
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No, it was. It was the whole... Just like that stupid thing I was just making. It's that quote. It's the there's there's nothing. There's just no feeling in the world like walking in a bank, handing them a fake ID and some fake documents and then having them hand you a check for two hundred fifty thousand dollars. And thank you for ripping them off. Like, I mean, that's just insane. Yes.
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And that feeling you're like. Like, this is insane, right? Like, I'm going to walk in there. Or even thanking and telling you what a great customer you've been. I borrowed like a couple hundred thousand dollars one time. And I always say this because I had a guy who read my book, who came back and was like, you said you borrowed a couple hundred thousand dollars.
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Listen, she's got me so scared. When women will text me, they'll hit you up on Instagram or whatever. Hey, how's it going? Wow, you're amazing. Listen, within the first sentence or two, it's like, yeah, my wife thinks so. Just in case it's a plant. In case she's trying to go around like, hey, I need you to send something to Matt. I'm like, yeah, you're not suckering up.
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In the book, it says you borrowed $120,000. It was just like, whatever. I don't remember what it was. $150,000, $200,000, whatever it was. I had borrowed it in the name of a fake person. It was a real person. It was a homeless guy. So I borrowed that money. And he had perfect credit.
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Got a check for, let's say, $150,000. Went and deposited it in my bank. And immediately, as soon as I did it, the person goes, okay, thank you. And they went, oh, you've been approved for a $30,000 credit card. And I went, you mean pre-approved? She goes, no, you've been approved. Of course I've been approved. I just deposited a check for $150,000 in cash. I mean, $150,000 into my account.
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And I do have perfect credit. You know, that guy had perfect credit. And she said, all you have to do is tell me you want the card and we'll have it overnighted to you. And I went, yes, I do.
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See, the problem is that's how you and I look at it, as a free 30 grand. To them, they're like, it's a credit line. You're like, no, no, no. That's not the way this works. I promise you, it's free. There's no payments getting made.
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I got a sports car. I got a hot girlfriend.
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Going on some vacations. Right up until they put them cuffs on me. Then it's unfree.
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And there goes another charge. Now we got aggravated identity theft.
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You're good.
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Come on, Albert.
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It's fun looking back on it. At the time, it's not fun.
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immediately i just i shouldn't have done none of that stuff yeah immediately regret every single thing and then you know but then you get out and six months go by and you're like listen i just heard
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It's just the right thing to do.
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Apparently it doesn't exist.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I'm saying based on what your guy was doing.
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That's what they're probably all doing. You're taking all that carbon and all this stuff out of the air. Come on, stop it, bro.
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No, I don't watch a lot of TV though.
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I don't know why I just pictured Christy's. I just pictured a bunch of corporate fat cats on a stage. You should have seen the episode, bro. Behind the auctioneer at Christy's. And in the crowd, it's nothing but hippies. Yeah.
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Wearing flower.
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There's a band. The monkeys are playing in the background.
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That'll keep you alive.
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yes or you spin it around and you say you know what let me try to see it from the other perspective coming back towards me yeah now i'm not falling for it yeah good times yeah so what so what what is the scam what is a scam because there's no one scam no but is there a scam or or what what scams But first, let me tell you about today's sponsor, Aura.
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He shut everything down.
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Exactly.
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Trying to clean up the planet.
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No, I was thinking. I was just thinking. I was thinking during the Civil War, you know, they were conscripting people, right? So either you had to show up or one of your family, right? Or you could say, hey, I can't do it. I want it. You know, fellas, I want to. I'm with you. I can't be with you. I got to do the farm. I got to do the whole thing. But I've got my slave, John. He can go for me.
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And they would say, okay, well, put your mark here, John. And John would put his mark. And he'd be in the army. I thought, what if you were super rich and you're going to jail and you were able to say, listen, I know I got four years. I know I got three years. I can't go. but Matt will do my time for me. And then I have to compensate Matt to do my time. Like... Bro.
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You know, I... I would... I'm ready to sign up. Like, I'll go do... What kind of... First, in the custody level, like, oh, no, you're going to a pen. Oh. Matt, how much for the pen? Listen, pens $150,000 a year, $200,000 a year. I'll do four years for you, but it's going to be a million dollars up front in my lawyers. Could you imagine if you could negotiate that?
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And in a way, I think I know what you're going to say. In a way, people do. You can. I'll tell you an incident that I know about, but go ahead.
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I mean like if there was actually a system. Oh, you mean like a legal system. Legal capitalized system. Legal, capitalized, look, you've got to do this much time. You have to give us this much time. I say, listen, I'm not going to, but I've paid this service, and they're going to provide someone that will do that time for me. And they go, okay, do you have the paperwork? Do you have an SS-12 form?
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Yes. Do you have a 722 form? Yes. Did he sign? Do I need your driver's license? Oh, I got my driver's license. Like, okay, boom, and he goes in for you. Makes me think of Palmer. Right. There are people that will do that. Yeah. And here's an example of that, a real-world example. We used to call this guy, they were calling him the Mexican Tony Soprano.
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There was a cartel member in Atlanta that had gotten like 15 or 20 years, right? Like he's got like seven lawyers. And this was in Atlanta, in Atlanta City Detention Center, right? ACDC. Where you would meet with your lawyer in Atlanta.
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in the unit they would walk in into a room and it was like a glass room like there's a glass wall and well you know glass you know it's it's the metal piping with the thing you'd walk in there with your lawyer or whoever and you'd stay close the door and you'd sit there and have a conversation um he crews like five six lawyers showed up
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every time i see this guy he had tons of money his celly just to let you i'm just saying this is the kind of guy he was you know his celly was a black guy that was complaining because his baby's mama's car had broke down and it just blew like the engine blew right and he went he goes yeah he said give me your address i'll get her another car somebody drop a car off and he goes no man you don't understand he's like no i understand she needs a car
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He's like, are you serious? He said, yeah, man, yeah. This is a guy that every time commissary came, like his bag was full and three other guys' bags were full that he was buying.
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Right. So meaning he's putting money on other people's commissary accounts to buy him stuff, and they get 20%.
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So what he did was – oh, by the way, that guy, like when that whole thing happened, I remember like three days later – Um, he, he got a phone with his girlfriend and said, you're not going to believe this. We were sitting there. I remember we were playing chess.
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Oh, it's true. The black guy came up and he, and he was looking for a celly, right? His celly was, I forget. He had been moved from medical. He was coming back. He was like, bro, remember he said he was going to get a car. He said, Mike, I got a phone two hours ago. Some guy showed up with like a, it wasn't a brand new car. It was like a five-year-old, like, you know, Acura.
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He's like, I mean, things got like 30,000 miles on it. He was like, he just gave it to her. He signed over the title and everything. We were like, damn, like Tony did that? He was like, yeah. You know, he had a name that was, you know.
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Yeah, no, I mean, they called him Tony. He was the Tony Soprano. But no, he had a Mexican, a Spanish name that was difficult. You know, it wasn't something like Jesus. It was a hard one. So, and anyway, so what happened was, I remember too, watching my Dateline episode with him. We were all sitting there watching the Dateline episode on me. And I was sitting there just shaking my hand.
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I kept looking over at him. He goes, you're a bad boy. You're, you're. That's what he said, you're a bad boy. So here's what he had done. He had paid a peasant. Right.
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In Mexico to come over through the border and told law enforcement who was there and how much and that he was coming and he had this much dope or whatever in the car game that the type of car, the tag, everything they saw him, they grabbed him. Boom. Five K one. Then he said, so the second, that was one he was doing. So now he doesn't, now he's already down to like 15 years or something.
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He was supposed to get like 25. He's down to 15. He had already arranged it. And he'd been in the jail doing this. He had arranged to have a guy. fly over and land at an airport, like a makeshift airport in Texas, and the DEA was gonna grab him, and he was gonna have X amount of pounds of pot, and that guy was gonna, and I was like, how much time is it?
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He's like, oh, no, the one guy, he gets five, he got five years. We make sure he, you know, my lawyer in Mexico makes sure that he has just enough to only get five years, and I take care of his family. The next guy was going to do 10. Like, guys are lining up to do his time for him so he could get his sentence reduced. Wow. Yeah, I was just like, you know, that was – listen, Atlanta was – right.
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But, I mean, that's the kind of money he had. There was a guy in Coleman that got – this was a guy who we're talking about. He's like one step, maybe one step below El Chapo when he was running things, right? Actually, the person who was running the Sinaloa cartel was El Chapo and El Mayo.
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everybody always says El Chapo El Mayo's low profile he's really the guy that started the whole thing and brought in El Chapo the point is is that like one guy there's one guy beneath him and the guy beneath him that was the guy I was locked up in Coleman with this is an AC this is another guy that guy had Remember the old photo books you could buy? The old ones. You couldn't sell.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't know about where you were, but in Coleman, they stopped selling the big ones. They were too big.
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You could only buy the little ones when I was there. But there were guys that still had the big ones. Huge ones. Yeah, exactly. They were three pictures across and three pictures down. Back when there were these things called photos that you could actually print out and they were actually photos. And he had books full of them.
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He'd done like three or four years and he still had a few more years to go. And this is the kind of guy that got caught on a conspiracy and got like a life sentence. But had worked it all the way down by giving up low-level guys that knew. what was going to happen.
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Like he sets them up, like they're being set up on purpose and they're saying, okay, so you're going to load 300 pounds in the trunk and I'm going to drive through here and they're going to arrest me? Yes.
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And then it'll take a couple months for you to get sentenced, six months for you to get sentenced and then you'll get five years and then we already got you a lawyer that'll show up, make sure you're going to get five years. You only got the maximum amount to get five. You can't get more than five years. And you don't have any priors. No priors. You're going, you know, so...
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Anyway, this guy had done the same type of thing and he was going to a he was at a low already and he was going to a camp. He had photos of him in Mexico where he had to do like so many years ago. He had done like two or three years in Mexico. It was insane. The photos he had, they were allowing him 10 days a month. You can have your family come and stay with you in the prison.
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America. Yeah, it was, it was insane. Plus you understand that so many days a month you could have other people come at, like he literally had prostitutes, prostitutes come in and they're staying the night. Like they're walking them to the cell, stay in the night. He's drinking, he's drinking cores and, and, and he's got,
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Well, I've met some guys that, trust me, there's not in the world, but there's three or four, there's probably, let's say there's five or six other countries that are really rough, but rough meaning, so the conditions are,
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It's like a city. I understand they're horrible, but in some ways they're horrible. But if you have money. Yeah. The freedom is. So in some ways it's like, what are you talking about? You're letting people bring them food. And yeah, they're allowed to bring so much food. They're allowed to bring so much. They're allowed to come see them and stay in the cell with them for three days straight.
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They're allowed. It was like, that's insane. And then, of course, but if you're poor and you go to Mexico, it's horrendous and you're sleeping in the hallways. So it depends on, I guess, what type of a criminal you are and what your ability to produce or have money is. But I was going to say, when we're back to the scam, sorry. Well, I only had two.
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I didn't know if you... Oh, listen, the scams that I admire are like... You know, I do. This is where if you remove the victims, you know, I do admire like like Ponzi schemes. Guys that do Ponzi schemes, which is really, they're just blatant liars.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But if you were to set up a Ponzi scheme, here's what bothers me about Ponzi schemes, is that most Ponzi schemes, and I don't mean most, I mean like 99% of them, weren't set up as a scam. Like they were set up as a legitimate business that very quickly goes bad. Sometimes they go do great for six years, 10 years.
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Sometimes guys set them up and a year and a half later, they're like, wow, man, like I'm not good at this. And, you know, where they set it up as a legitimate, let's say I'm going to, you know, of course the investors always get in trouble. Like it's a hedge fund. They make a couple of that. They have a bad quarter. Then they lie about it. Oh, I'll make it up next quarter.
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Then they have another bad quarter. They lie about it. They have another bad quarter. They lie about it. Then maybe they have a good quarter, but it's nowhere near good enough to recoup the losses they've had. Then they have another bad quarter. And they're just continuing to tell everybody they're doing well. And they just keep borrowing and borrowing.
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And before you know it, it's like, so how off are you? Well, I've lost –
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five million dollars you know i am supposed to have 50 million in you know the coffers and you know and i don't you know i'm paying out this much money because i've lost this much money but i told people that i made 11 million dollars so wow so you're off by by 15 million dollars yeah um you know it's just and then it just keeps it spirals out of control and then they just try and maintain it as long as possible so
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If you remove the fact that the people that they're typically taking the money from are just regular people, the ability to do that and set it up and maintain it for a long period of time is amazing to me. That to me is...
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It was never going to be over. I used to always say, if I just got a few million dollars, if I got a few million dollars, I would have said, that was easy.
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Madoff does – what bothers me about Madoff is, you know, like he did it in his name. Like he was just – he's just an idiot.
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Grant Cardone's type of.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I thought you were talking about two different things. He's not running a Ponzi. Well, he may be. I don't know.
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You know, a lot of times, here's the thing I've noticed, too. I've talked to a lot of guys. This guy, Red Bull, they said he ran a Ponzi scheme. It was a business opportunity scheme. It's like people know what a Ponzi scheme is, so a lot of times the newspapers simplify it. Does that make sense?
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So, yeah, I hear what you're saying. You know, really, there's so many schemes that I'm just... I'm not impressed by as much as I'm just disappointed by. It's like you had something that was legitimate and you ruined it because you didn't do this one thing, you know? Right. I always thought that... Really, this was like a legit... That guy said it was legit. I don't know. The guy was...
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He basically was giving people a credit card. So it was like, hey, you give me $59, right? And I'll give you a credit card worth $300 and I'll report to the credit bureau. So it's a way to help clean up your credit. And then he gives you a catalog that you can buy from. Well, everything in the catalog is jacked up.
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You know, it's all like, this is stuff he's getting from China for $15 and he's charging, you know, 150, $200. So everything you can buy is really just, it's horrible. Like you buy one thing And he's not out any money because he took in 50 bucks. It cost him $15. Even if you never make a payment, then it doesn't matter. He's not out any money at all.
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And if you do make the payment, well, that's great because eventually he gets the $200 back. The point is that there was a guy in Coleman who had done that. And it was kind of like a business opportunity thing that he had just kind of set up.
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The problem was he said, you know, I set it up. We started running with it. Started doing well. Started hiring people. People are calling. We're calling. We're getting people in. We're doing great numbers. He said, but then I turned around and he went to like Equifax and said, how much for me to record these every month? And it was too much. Right. They wanted – I don't remember the number.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Let's say they wanted like, oh, it's like $20 a person. He was like, that's insane. And then they said, well, you don't have enough. If you have this many people, like you have 1,000 people, then we drop it from 20 down to this much.
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Per month. Then they were like, if you do this many, if you have over 10,000 people, then we drop it down to it's $8. Like you have to have – whatever it was, it was an outrageous amount of number for it to get down to where it was almost nothing. Right. Whereas sense, which is where someone like bank of America is like, it costs them almost nothing to report.
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But he wasn't there. So he figured, okay, that's fine. At the rate we're going, we'll be over the thousand. It'll cost $8 or whatever it was. I forget the number. And he said, but you know, but by the time we got to the thousand, like nobody was complaining. He said, even people that called and said, hey, it hasn't shown up yet.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We were like, well, yeah, you have to make a few payments before it shows up. Trust me. He said a lot of people would just stop paying. So it's like they don't say anything at all. They don't want it to show up. And he said... Six months, a year went by. Now he's just telling people, oh, we're reporting. Where are you pulling from? Where are you? Oh, yeah. Downward spiral. Right.
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But at this point, you could pay. He's like, I know. I forget how many millions he ended up making. Five, six million. I mean, it was just tons. And he's dumping money into it. He's like, you know, advertising, paying. It's like, but you're making millions. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're telling me you made, if I had a little scheme that I was running that was making me $2 million and for me to make it legit, I have to spend a million. Yeah. Even if I had just a million out of my two. Half. I'll spend the million to keep a million. Yes. Yeah, he wouldn't do it. Wouldn't do it. So within a year or two, it catches up with them.
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Just a jerk off. You know, and then he gets arrested. And then, of course, they go in front. He's got hundreds. No, I'm sorry. Thousands and thousands of victims. So what he thought was, OK, it's a few million dollars. I'll do a couple of years. Ended up being ridiculous. Like six to eight years or something because he had so many victims. Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because you remember that the the federal sentencing guidelines like if I have.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I think it was up to 250, up to 250 or more.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Well, so what happened with him was like, let me put it this way. Let's say I stole a million dollars from two people. Like I stole a million from you and a million from you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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don't get an enhancement for that like i don't get it i don't get an enhancement for the victims because but if i stole you know 20 from 50 people i get this massive enhancement it's like wait a second i stole next to nothing from these people 20 bucks a pop that's nothing that's not going to change their life these guys wiped someone out they're like i know but they have more victims
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So if it was $900,000 from an old retired woman. Yeah, you're right. It doesn't balance. They were trying to change that. There was like an amendment that I forget, FAM had put up or somebody. They were trying to, you know, they never do change them. But they were like, when I was, you know, we were getting these letters like, hey, this is going up. They're going to change this and this and this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And like none of it passed.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, even if it has to be new people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I got caught with a pound of marijuana today and I got a year. Right. This guy got caught with two pounds today. On Tuesday, and he gets nothing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I get it. Can we make that retroactive and let me out? No.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, you're a criminal.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It was so, yeah, you know, he got, yeah, he got busted.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Was it a Ponzi scheme?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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It wasn't because you couldn't cancel it. Right. It was just that's not a Ponzi scheme. You know what a Ponzi scheme is? It's Ponzi scheme is when you're you're giving me money. Where you're taking from new victims to pay old victims off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You're killing me. I'm sorry. A Ponzi scheme is where you give me $100,000 and I say you're making 20% a year. And you go, okay. But really, I just spent your money on a Lamborghini and a new house for me. And then when you say, hey, Matt, I need to get $100,000 of that back. I say, oh, okay. Connor, give me $100,000. I'll make you 20% a year.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And you go, okay, you give it to me and I give you $100,000. Or $20,000. Whatever your proceeds are, I'm taking from. So anytime you pull it out, I'm giving you money that I'm taking from Mary Shelley, from Connor, from Jess. So other people are paying in. And anybody who says, hey, man.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Right, right. So anytime somebody says, you say, hey, I give you $100,000 and it's been five years, it's now worth $300,000. I say, oh, I got it. Here's your $300,000, but I just took their money to pay you. And when he asked for his money, I'm taking from Bob and Jim and Bill to pay him. And so what happens is it's okay. It functions okay if more people pay in all the time.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Be absolutely sloppy. Obvious.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's what Social Security is. Social Security is people. It's a legal Ponzi scheme. Yes. Because they're pulling from everybody's check to pay out people that had paid in originally. Yes. Insolvent. But meet Dick and Jane. Yes, that guy. Yeah, what was it? I know this whole scam.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So that security kind of hangs out and kind of watches her.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, go ahead. You tell it. Okay, so here's what he was saying. What they were saying was, well, it's a money back guarantee. Like you pay for it. If it doesn't work, we'll give you your money back. And it didn't work. No, no. Well, of course it doesn't work. But his whole thing was when people said, man, I paid $500. I want my $500 back. It's been six months. I've been taking this pill.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm out of pills. And nothing ever happened. My Johnson did not get bigger, which you promised.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he said, okay, well, all we need is a letter from your doctor showing that prior to you taking the pills, you were this size and now you're still the same size and that the pills did not help you. So just get us a letter from your doctor. You can prove it. We'll give you the money back. Who the hell? Like, I didn't. If you read the fine print, we have to have proof or that sort.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, well, I'm sorry, but I didn't go to my doctor and get him to measure my junk before and after. So they're like, well, I'm sorry. Then how do we know it didn't work? Look how small my job is. Exactly. Like, do you imagine people are taking pictures?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Does this look like my wife is smiling the way that chick on the commercial? Right. Right. Yeah. So as a result of that, they ended up. So it was it was unfair business practices. It was it was false advertising. It was.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Just because he's doing it across state lines. He's doing it all over. Ain't you still in from thousands and thousands of, you know, little penis men, which needs to be protected, which is embarrassing itself.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I wish, what is that? What is the name? What was the name of the, of the, the scam?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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That's when you know you've turned a corner.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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$100 million fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Nine years. Could you get somebody to do it for—could you get somebody to do the time for—
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And on top of that, you had an extensive criminal history. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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When you start using the legal term.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Did you say, Your Honor, if I was consummate, would we even be having this talk? If I was a perfect criminal, we wouldn't even know each other. Shh. Certainly wouldn't have been in front of you all these times. Over and over. Like, at this point, what's his first name? My, who?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, at this point, you basically walk in and go, Jimmy!
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Really?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There's a rapper or there's a there's a guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There's a black Zach. Guy, too. Black, Zach. Have you ever punched in your thing? This is the first thing that comes up. Oh, yeah. Then this comes up. Then you come up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No. Why, what is it? Is it one song?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Have you listened to it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, it's bad. Oh, it's horrible.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Look at the booty on that chick. Look. He's got the glasses.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I can't dance. Oh. Look.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Connor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's got a whole, he loves it too. He loves what he's doing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I hope this doesn't get copywritten.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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What about, listen, I knew a guy in Coleman that was a concert promoter that promoted several concerts. Right. And then, and people paid whatever. a couple hundred, like I mean, radio stations, everything. And he was promoting concerts for people that weren't, like, these are artists that are like, well, when am I gonna be in Michigan? What's going on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He'd take them, and they'd put the money, they'd send in their money, and then the promoter would take the money, and then they would come out and say, hey, it's been postponed, postponed. Like, on the tickets, it says, like, hey, if there's, you know, weather and this and that, we're postponing, you'll understand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And he would postpone it, like, 60 days, then another 90, then another 30, then 60, and then they'd just drop away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Kept your money. By that point, your money's way gone. Yeah. But he did a whole thing. He eventually caught up with it. He was in Coleman with us. And when I got out, he... Listen to this. I always forget about this. This is hilarious. So when I first got to that... This is a whole sidebar thing. So when I first got to the halfway house, do you remember how... Which halfway house did you go to?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Tampa.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Okay. Goodwill. They were tricked, right? They were like, they're checking you. You come in. Not thoroughly, but yeah. Rule-wise, yes. Rule-wise, yes. What I'm saying is when... So, for instance, people couldn't just show up and, like, for instance, and they told you, did you get the little speech when you got there?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Scheme really isn't illegal, by the way, the term scheme.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, if you have friends come over, they have to be, you have to tell them, they have to sign in, they have to this. Like, don't have somebody come meet you in the parking lot.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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like that's an issue like if they saw you they'd violate you like hey some guy just came by where they'd search you like what's going on you stood out there and talked to that guy for 20 minutes and you know that sort of thing you know hey that that's a illegal this whatever stand there we're calling like that they'd violate you go spend 30 days in the county jail so they to me they were strict like they had made you clean all the time if you didn't have a job you're cleaning all the time like they made you want to get out of that halfway house as quick as possible yes
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So, and I was there for seven months. You know, you were there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, I know. But I'm saying you were on home. You got an ankle monitor right away. You were out right away.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah, 30 days. I was there seven months.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Where? I didn't have a home.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Seven months? You and Jess, right? No, Jess got out within 60, 90 days she was out.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Because she had her dad's. Oh, okay. And the only reason that took so long was he had to get a landline. He didn't have a landline. He's in Myakka. He's got a cell phone. Who the hell has a landline? Right. So anyway, the point is that when I got there, I had been there. Two weeks. I get there. I'm keeping my head down. I'm just doing what I have to do.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I get there and probably within a week, guys are walking around. One day, all of a sudden, within like a day or so, I noticed guys are walking around looking at me, looking at me. And then one day, I walk by a guy sitting on the couches. Remember the couches in the middle in the day room? Guy's watching. He's watching my... This is when my American Greed was on Hulu.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He's watching it on Hulu as I walk by. And I hear the whole... And I'm like... I look over and he's sitting there watching. I look. He looks up. He goes... He just smiles and keeps watching. I was like, you know, I was like, oh man. So I, then I walk and a counselor, my counselor is actually, he was Jess's counselor. This black guy, he walks by and looks at me.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He goes, Cox, so saw you on TV last night. And I went on, on what? And he goes, he said on American greed. I was like, oh, man. Yeah, you need to hold your head low. He was laughing about it. But I said, who else has seen it? And he goes, oh, we've all seen it by now. Everybody. All the staff members had seen it. So that had just happened. And now the inmates are starting to watch it. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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And I'm not saying anything. I'm just trying to go to work and back, right? Like I don't, just started my job. So then one day I'm sitting there on the, sitting outside on the, or not outside, I'm sorry. I'm sitting on one of the couches in the day room, playing on my phone or even trying to figure it out. And a guy comes up to me, this guy that I was in Coleman with goes up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He goes, Hey Cox, you got to come outside real quick. There's a guy outside wants to talk to you. And I went, what? He goes, there's a guy outside wants to talk to you. And I went, who? Tell him to come in. He goes, no, he's in a car. He needs to talk to you. And he goes, you need to come outside. And I went, all right, all right. So I get up. I was like, what the fuck's going on?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I don't know anybody. The only people that know I'm even here is like Treon, and I'm working for him. And nobody's stopping by the halfway. Who knows where the halfway house is? Right. I walk outside. Remember how everybody used to stand outside and smoke? Yes. Around the tree. Yeah, exactly. There's 20 guys standing outside smoking like this.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The guy that I told you about, the concert promoter, is in a white Lamborghini with the top off. His girlfriend is driving the car. Blonde, blue eyed. I walk out and I see him and I walk over and he goes, he goes, Matt Cox. He's come here. Come here. I walk over and I go, hey, what's going on? I barely I kind of recognized him. He'd sat through my my real estate class a couple of times.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We'd had lunch a few times. Like, I don't really remember him that much, but he remembered me. He said, hey, man, I'm so-and-so. I was in your real estate class. Do you remember me? And I was like, yeah, man, what's going on? Like I kind of remembered him. I was like, yeah, that was like a long time ago. He goes, yeah, it was a few years ago.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I told you I'd look you up because I looked you up every once in a while. I would go on BOP, and I saw that you were going to be in the halfway house. He said, I knew it said Orlando. You were going to be in Orlando. He says, oh, I checked and sure enough, you were here. I told my girl we had to go by. He said, man, do you need anything? I said, no, man. I said, I can't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm not even supposed to be talking to you, bro. I said, like, they got videos. Like, you're going to get me violated. He said, well, how can I get you, talk to you? And I said, man. I said, I work at a gym. And I told him the name of the gym and this. And I'm sitting there talking to a guy in a Lamborghini in the halfway house parking lot with all these guys smoking cigarettes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Like, what the hell is going on? I go, Brian, honestly, I can't. I said, I work at a gym. It's called, you know, Cultus 24-7 Fitness. He's looking up 24-7 Fitness. I'll be there tomorrow. And I turn around. He's, all right, I got you. I got you. And I walked off. Called me like two days late, two, three days later, he called the gym, talked to me, got my phone number, came by the gym.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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We talked for a while, pulls up in his Lamborghini. Yeah. I was just like, like, this is not, this is my life. Like, you know, this is insane. You know, I've met a, since, since I went to prison, like I've met four or five guys that have Lamborghinis. Yeah. You know? I've met two. Yeah, it's outrageous. Like, I didn't know these people before. Where were these people before? When I had money.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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You were in a low.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So I think what I think, whatever, they're they're they're they're synonyms. Anyway, whatever. So, yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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There shouldn't have been no guys with Lamborghinis and pens and mediums. That's insane.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No. Oh.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah. Yeah. Good times.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, okay.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Now, these are all like prison guys with lanyards. Yeah. Well, no, no, not all of them.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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Oh, I've met, there have been a few billionaires. Listen, I've met like three guys. I want to say, I think, I feel like it's three guys. I know for sure it's, no, it is. I think it's three guys that worked at NASA. Three guys that worked at NASA that I met that worked at NASA that were all in there. All of them, pictures.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I'm not saying I don't know if there's a correlation there, but the fact that you meet one person in the real world that worked at NASA is odd. How often does that happen? Even if you lived in Florida, that's odd. To meet three? Listen, the military dorm... My buddy Pete said the military dorm, out of the entire military dorm, there's like 32 to 35 guys that don't have charges for pictures.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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The problem with most people is you read this scam and you're like, that's a good scam. What went wrong? He did it in his own name. What are you doing? Go behind the cash register with the guy and go into and steal all kinds of...
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Out of 150 guys, there's, what, close to 120 that are there for pictures.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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out there so so so that a scam a scam is a group effort like hey i got an idea okay so what what what happened i disagree but what happened what what i don't understand so you that's the scam you admire the one where they're shoplifting or just you admire the fact that they drew law enforcement away yes
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No, I get that all the time. It's just a random text. It's like, hey, John, or hey, Sally. And you're like, this isn't Sally. Oh, what's your name? Stop it. Stop it. I don't know what you're doing. I don't have time for this foolishness.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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No, I don't get that far. Like, I have gotten... Well, no, because I'm like, oh, she's pretty.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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I just got a random text just now. Probably coupled with a picture.
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I remember a case that there was a first time that the guy... Because supposedly in the federal system, entrapment is not a defense. They don't allow you to say, I was entrapped. Simply because that's what they're doing. Because that's what they're doing. They hate it when you use what they're doing against them. So...
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So this is a guy that owned a piece of land that was right next to a piece of a federal park, right, like a national park. And the park wanted to buy his land. And he for 20 years or something, he refused to sell it. And suddenly some new park administrators had come on board and they were talking about expanding the park and they were like, well, this is the park that we want.
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And they were trying to like say we're going to take it. And he was saying you don't have to have it like it. You can't use eminent domain to take my property. It doesn't benefit the public enough to. That you need it. You've already got 400,000 acres of land. It's just stupid. And he wouldn't sell it. And so suddenly he started getting these emails for a website for pictures. And he...
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He deleted it, and then it came again two days later, deleted it. Then another one came and deleted it. Then another one came, and every day, we're talking about every day, four or five a day of these emails saying to visit the website. Very specific saying what it was. This went on for 90 days. This guy, it was something like close to 1,000 times deleted it. Finally, one day, he clicked on it.
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He said, I didn't know how to make it stop. I'd hit the stop to unsubscribe. And they showed, they proved it. He'd done all this. One day he finally clicked on it. He clicked on it. And it's something basically, he said, I flipped through some pictures. He said, very quickly, maybe five or 10 pictures. He said, got off the website.
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clicked the unsubscribe and deleted it thinking maybe that will work. Like it was kind of, it was something along those lines. He's trying to finalize it. Like get rid of this. There was like a 60 minutes about this. Only reason I know it, it was like a 60 minutes, 60 minutes or 2021 of those. And so, and I could be botching the story slightly.
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But what ended up happening was he gets arrested like three days later. They indict him and come and arrest him. And during the negotiations, they're telling him like, hey, look, like you to plead guilty. You know, like they're trying to get his property. They're trying to use seizure to take his property. He's saying, what are you talking about? Like seize what? That has nothing to do with this.
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And I don't even know what happened here. Like I was trying to get rid of these things. So he goes to trial. Even though his lawyer is saying you're done, you're done. People know they're not going to look past the fact that you clicked on it. He goes to trial and he wins. Which was insane. Because he did click on it and he did look at the images. And that's all the law says.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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But it was enough that his lawyer had put together enough of a defense to say it's outrageous how many times they hammered him and bombarded him with this. And so he was able to win an entrapment-style claim. And he ended up winning. And they showed also that the FBI was targeting him very specifically. They were trying to get him...
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hemmed up so that they could get a hold of his land somehow get some leverage now they were never able to get a specific person or anything but it was pretty clear and that he ended up winning it good right but you know like you said like but surprised he didn't end up going to prison anyway right but that almost never happens so i'm saying like the idea that he could win that defense it almost never happened never so that's a an example that
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I tell you another time, a guy was buying, I knew a guy that, and this was pretty well documented too. This is like totally off the subject. But anybody that's watching this far would probably be interested. The point is that this guy, he was buying credit card information. And the guy said, hey, what about getting some pictures? I think we all know what kind of pictures we're talking about.
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And like I said, hey man, I sell pictures, I sell videos, I have pictures of this. And he was like, oh bro, I'm not interested in that. I'm trying to get, you know, you advertised on this website that you had credit card information. Like that's who he thought he was contacting. Right. And somehow or another, it wasn't that. They were like, well, we don't have that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He ended up getting an FBI agent that was getting this up, trying to get people to be interested in this other thing. So he ends up saying, no, no, no, no, no. And finally, the guy says, I have bootleg videos. Of new movies and I have the credit card information you want. So he says, okay. Well, so he says, well, the bootleg videos were just like bootleg videos from movies.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
So he dropped the other thing. And then he bought it. They sent it to him. He gets it. In the information, they had put like JPEGs of photographs of young people. They indict him, arrest him. They come and arrest him, grab his computer. He's got the images on there. They show that he did look at them for a few seconds apiece. But in his mind, he said, did I look at them? Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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He said, I didn't know what they were because I told him over and over again I wasn't interested in that. He did take a plea, by the way. He ended up taking a plea because he said, my lawyer was like, you're so screwed because the law says if you simply have possession, you're already guilty. They go, and you did have possession, and you did look at the pictures, and you looked at them too long.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Right. And what's so funny is that they're not in any jeopardy at all.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Like if you look at them for more than like four seconds or something or six seconds, there's a length of time for you to look at it, realize what you're looking at is wrong, and delete it. He looked at it for longer. And he didn't delete them. They were like, so it's still on your computer. You didn't try and delete them. You're guilty. So he just took a plea.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
He got like, I don't know what it was, five years, six years, whatever it was for just a few. Yeah. Let's see. See, like if people say like, well, what are you guys? You get so freaked out if somebody is trying to send you a message or how you talk to Bozak. Bozak's like he's like anybody that tries to contact me that I think is even remotely too young. It's like, boom, no, no, no.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah, anybody that looks even remotely.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
And what's so funny, too, is like you could be 25 years old and send me a picture. 25-year-olds, to me, look like they're 12. Yeah. You know, like the older you get, the younger everybody else looks. So some girl said, oh, I'm 25. I'd be like, this chick looks like she's 12 years old. You know? So, yeah. So, yeah, I could imagine. Because I hear these horror stories. Horror stories.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
They were creators. They were diddlers, too. We had the handlers on the roof. Yeah, hands on and hands off.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
yeah you know that dude you were talking to yeah you know he's hands-on right oh man are you serious no no no hands-on would be there at all oh at your place at your place no at the low at the low yeah they were there the hands-on yeah yeah these are guys like put brought somebody across state lines yeah i told you didn't i ever tell you it couldn't have been a full rape no this is a low Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
That's what I'm saying. Oh, I don't know about the full. This is somebody who made the attempt or was actually showed up someplace.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Well, listen, there was a guy in Germany who flew from Germany to the United States thinking he was meeting like a 14 year old boy or something. legal in Germany, by the way. The age of consent was like 14. The boy was 14. He flies all the way over here, gets arrested, says, hey, I haven't done anything wrong. I was in my country. They say, you flew to the United States.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
He then goes to the German consulate and tries to get help. They wouldn't lift a finger for him. He's like, it's not illegal in Germany. And I didn't do it. And the other thing is in Germany, you didn't do anything. To him, it's like, I just showed up. I didn't do it. In Germany, you would have to have done something. They were like, nope, 25 years.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Anyway. I mean, not that he's not a weirdo. Is he a weirdo? I mean, you know, you get to a point where it's like everybody's a weirdo. Everybody I met was just like odd. You know, it's like everybody, you just meet people, you just, you know, it was so, I hate to say that I would, you know, started to try and figure out what people's charges were. Like I, you know, and they would lie.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You know, they always use fraud. They always say, what are you here for? Fraud. Man, you mother, why can't you say something you could pull off? Because, you know, very quickly it's like, oh, what kind of fraud? Um, Credit card fraud? You were charged with credit card fraud? Yes. They actually said credit card fraud? Yeah, it was credit card fraud. There's no federal charge for credit card fraud.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
So it had to be access device fraud. It had to be like, if you're going to lie about my field of expertise, learn something. Research. That's right. You can't say cannabis. I was receiving cannabis in the mail. Say that. You don't have to know anything.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You're saying she really does steal stuff? Yeah.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Right. Well, guys would work their way down from the medium.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah, well, I don't think they – listen, it doesn't matter. You talk to these guys for 10 minutes, and after 10 minutes, you're just like, no, man. I mean, even if you talk the talk, like, I'm sorry, bro.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
and they get caught or she she gets stopped at the register she makes it look like i was gonna say like to me to me like in front of them you could i like with the camera i would kind of show myself like putting stuff in a bag and then move to a spot and then take the stuff out of the bag oh do you like to me you get up to the cash register and then they come and they grab you oh no oh empty your bag and you'd empty the bag you'd be like what they'd be like holy jesus like i
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You're not a drug addict. You're not here for that. Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Stop it.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah. offer you can start you bro i'm that's all i think about the ones that you envy is that what oh listen i hear scam are we recording yes okay so i hear scams all the time where i see it i read a little article or somebody tells me about their scam or i'll see um i'll see something on the news and it's just like oh
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
if they just did if they didn't did the problem with most people is you read this scam and you're like that's a good scam like what went wrong like he did it in his own name yes or he did it in his sister's name or his one of his buddies like what are you doing and or and then it breaks down where you're like why didn't they just open a bank account in somebody else's name or in a fake person's name or in a you know a homeless person or whatever's name and dump the money in there and remove it and you're like well and then I always have to remind myself like bro
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Not everybody, and this is going to sound arrogant, has your skill set. Like not everybody can figure out how to get a driver's license in somebody else's name or an ID or whatever.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Right. They're like. I could probably make $10,000, $20,000 on this, not realizing, okay, you could make 20 grand, but three months from now, you're in front of a judge, or you're just getting handcuffed, and you're waiting to be in front of a judge.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
And then you do six months or a year, and now you're on your probation, and then you start looking back on it, and you go, Jesus God Almighty, for 30 grand or 20 grand.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
I just put a year in jail. I lost all my shit. People never realize, like, Going to jail, who gives a shit? I don't give a shit. I'll go to jail for fucking six months. If I can come back where I left off. The problem is, you're coming back, you've lost everything. And what's even worse is that the people you know are the ones that took it. Yes.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Like nobody came in and boxed up my shit and stuck it in the storage unit or even in their garage.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
I got it from Goodwill. Yeah, let's start this. All right. What are we doing? Do I start? Yeah, you're good. Okay. What else? That's it. End this. All right. Well, what's up? Is that it?
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You should contact Black Zack. I will. We could do theme music. We could cut that up.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Hey, this is Matt Cox. Did you change it too? Hey, this is Matt Cox and I'm here with Zack and I appreciate Zack coming on. I don't think he even switches it when you do that. I think that he, do you? I think he just, I think he just like, they might see a little hand flopping in my there. So, so, uh, thank you very much for watching the video. Do me a favor.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
And check out Zach's channel. And if you want to donate money to his cash app, by all means, you can donate money to his cash app. And what is it? You're not going to tell me what it is? My cash app? Yeah, BlackZach50. BlackZach50. And we'll leave the link in the description. Thank you very much for watching. And, hey, by the way, I wrote a bunch of true crime books. Check out the trailers.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
See ya.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
i saw her i like i could see that would be a right and then they'd have to let you go it's like what are you talking oh yeah yeah no i did put a skirt i did put the skirt in there and then i realized oh wait a second this looks bad i got i need to i took it out and then i thought well i don't even want this so i just left it on the counter it's over there you know so but i was gonna say what that reminds me of is the um
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You know the Romanian wall? It was called the Romanian wall where they had... There was people from Romania. Or the gypsy wall, they called it too. So people would go into like... And they had video of 7-Elevens and stuff where people would... There would be like six or eight people would come in
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
In a group, and so the person at the counter, let's say a 7-Eleven, would look and see this group coming in, and they create almost like a wall. They're just kind of bundled together, and somebody else would walk in, crouch down, and walk in behind them. So the camera sees them, but the other camera sees the person. But this guy's not watching the camera. He's watching these people.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
If you saw anything you like, links to all the books are in the description box.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
So they come in, and then they kind of move through the store. They have kind of a direction where they're kind of walking and moving. And the one guy, somebody says, hey, something to the cashier, and he looks over here. And the person who's bent down, who he doesn't even know is in the store, kind of like moves towards the cash register. He's right there.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
And so as these guys are talking, he's moving around the cash register and literally they have videos of these guys where the guy will be, he'll go behind the cash register with the guy and like go into and steal like all kinds of stuff that's back there that's hidden while these guys are loud and they're playing music and they're talking and banging stuff and doing this and he's kind of just watching and watching.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Steal stuff, go back, then they pull the wall back together and the guy walks out with them. And all they've bought is like a stick of gum. And he walks out with, you know, whatever, hundreds of dollars of cartons of cigarettes. Or there have been times where they've gone into the safe. There have been times where they said, like, they took a gun. They got a gun.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
hey this is matt cox and i'm here with my buddy zach yo what's up check out my channel and we're going to yeah zach's got a channel black zach no i don't know what to say about that but it's all that needs to be said um and uh yeah so check out that channel and um also uh the link will be in the description so we're going to be going over This is real. I didn't think this through.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
And then later they'd look at the camera and they'd be like, oh, my God.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
They have to practice, right? If you watch the videos on YouTube and stuff, you're just going, this is nuts. You're almost like, how could he not? And you're like, okay, I get it. But from his perspective, he's not seeing it. He's only seeing these groups of people. And then once the guy gets under the counter. He's done. He's done.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
He would have to turn around and start looking at the videos that are shooting from the other way. And who's doing that? He's trying to see if these guys are stealing. And they are. They're not.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah. Unbelievable. That reminds me. So that's what I'm saying. It's the same kind of thing. Right. You're just drawing their attention.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Yeah. Do you remember? I shouldn't even say this. Do you remember when we were talking about... I'm thinking Barrington, but go ahead. No, no. I'm thinking when we were locked up and we were talking about the identity theft scam, where it was like, what if someone stole somebody's identity? Like, I steal your identity.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
which given that you're a man of color would be difficult. But let's assume I steal your identity. I get a driver's license in your name. I run up all your credit cards. I then borrow money against your house, the whole thing. But I happen to have LifeLock. Do you remember this? This was what we used to joke about. And then when suddenly you start getting the credit cards, the whole thing.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
I would do that because I'm not worried about him. The worst problem would be that the person you stole their identity finds out and calls the police. But I know he's not going to call. What's going to happen is once the first credit cards start showing up, you then... Call the police. Hey, look, I got an issue, man. I got like a $40,000 credit card bill. Someone took my credit card.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You call your credit card company. You do this. And then more bills start showing up. You start going, oh, whoa, well, I need somebody to come out of here. Like, I got like $100,000 in credit card debt. Somebody stole my credit cards. No, I don't know. I have them on me. Or maybe I lost my wallet, but I didn't give anybody my PIN numbers. Like, this is ridiculous. Right. And so you do all that.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
You run it all up. Then you find out maybe there's a mortgage on their house or somebody took out a $50,000 personal loan in your name. You're like, oh my God. So we were talking about like, you run it up to a couple, two, $300,000. Like it's insane. You're calling the police. But the interesting thing about that was that what we were saying, well, what you were saying really was you were like,
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
But I know what's going on because I can call the police and say, well, do you have any leads? Well, what's happening? Well, what happened? And the police would be like, look, we're doing it. We found this. We found this. There was a P.O. box that was opened. Well, who opened the P.O. box? We can't find the person that opened the P.O.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
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So you're going through the whole thing or it was an abandoned house. It's actually in your neighborhood. What? But you would know because at some point they would say, look, we're – We're just out of option. We don't know what to do. And you're also involved because the credit card people are contacting you. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
So at some point, even if there was a prosecution, the worst that could happen is you were saying you could say, look, I'm not going to participate in that prosecution. Right. I got my money back. The credit card companies paid the money back. And we got the thing with the mortgage taken care of.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
And I don't want any trouble with who – I don't know who you arrested, but I don't want any trouble with that person. And then being the person, if they did end up getting arrested, I could then say, man, I'm going to trial.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
They'd be like, Jesus. Knowing when the prosecutor comes in and says, oh, listen, this guy is going to show up. He's going to testify. He'd be like – Is he? I can't wait to see him. We had this whole thing laid out. Right. And the other one was. The identity theft, the life lock, was that you could also claim against life lock to say. You could sue for allowing all that to happen. Right.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
Scams we admire. Like, I'm trying to be like a clean-cut guy.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
But when we were locked up, you and I thought, and I know differently now, but we thought, remember they say up to a million dollars. It was a million dollars in legal fees that they would pay to fix it. We were thinking that that was like insurance that they would, Like they would pay off your credit cards or they would, but they won't.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
It's just they would just call and file the claims for you, which would still be good because you could still say they could do all that for you.
Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Greatest Scams of All Time | Fraudster's Favorite Scams
LifeLock and HomeTitleLock, they will hire an attorney that will file all the paperwork to reinstate your credit cards, get the balances dropped. I mean, now HomeTitleLock only does it for mortgages. LifeLock only does it for identity theft. So if you had both of them. Which you probably have to have. Yeah, but you could really insure yourself completely. Completely against the whole thing. Yep.
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So she's not hosting.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
She's just managing now.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
She said that?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Tens of millions.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I'm the reason.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Oh, lying, right?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
He said... People knew he was the biggest... Yeah.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You're too poor to even think to imagine the world, basically.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
$500.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
At the club. Okay. Today you can get it from me for... 270. Oh, I buy it for you.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I'll do it. I'll do it for you. I'll put on a whole show.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Oh, yeah.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
What does that mean?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
What would I do?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Oh, you're a worm.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
So if I chop you in half.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
You'll turn into two worms. Oh my God.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Yeah, I'll book for you.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Ace of Spades.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
$500.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
So do they drink those champagne bottles?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
She gets to bring it home. And then she flips it? Yeah, I think she resells it.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I don't get it.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
A thousand bottle of champagne, right?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I think it's literally just to show off how much money you have because who cares about champagne? Let's be real. Nobody wants to drink champagne at that point.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
So she's 24, you said?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Yeah, 26 years older.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I mean, like, you know what you're signing up for.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
But like, I feel like the relationship was built upon, you know, you're her top clients and her status is built upon how much money. So, right? Like, it's very clear.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I feel like that's like a... It's weird. I feel like it's dangerous.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
What? So she retired, but doesn't want to be with him. What? Then why did she retire?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Someone take grandpa's phone, please.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Is he talking or was that just a photo?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Oh, he's talking.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
But speaking of, you know, because of the conversion for Japanese yen, you know, because there are so many zeros. Yes. Like everything is like a calculator. OK, your meal. And every time you do show something, you have to turn your phone sideways. Your meal is three point two million dollars. That's kind of rough.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
No, RMB is like seven times.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I mean, I feel like at that point, we could just like... I'll remove the three zeros, no? Let's just call it what it is.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
That's true.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
But I feel like if we remove the zeros, right? Yes. It will save ink, save paper, save space.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Guys, come on.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Is he sad?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
It's giving like sad ex-boyfriend energy.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
He said that?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Oh, okay. I'm like, damn.
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More than half of the class is wearing an eye patch.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
It's like Mr. Beast video. If you stick to the end, you're going to get a private island.
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I didn't know. I didn't know this is how... I thought she loved me. I didn't know this is how this club works.
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So is that like a videotape by someone?
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This is like happening at that time?
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And the brother is in high school, college? High school.
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Yeah. But I think the nuance of it is that, you know, Japan and even a lot of East Asian countries, the family, you do get blamed. Yeah. Especially in Japan. So if one family member is a criminal, it will impact the rest of the family member.
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you
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He's a scammer.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Kind of wild, huh?
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So the tens of millions of dollars he spent is basically the other people's money.
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So like 260 people gave their savings to him.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Yeah, but that's... But that's still not her. Yeah, that's not her.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
That is crazy. So he kind of exposed himself.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
He's almost trying to implicate. It's your company.
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
Let me get this story straight, okay? Tens of millions dollar is literally... people's saving right yes when someone give that money to you it's not your money you're just helping them invest so you are you take this responsibility of trying your absolute best not to lose money like that's literally like the fee right or whatever you And then you take a small percentage if you make people money.
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It's like someone's life saving. And then you turn around knowing this, even if this girl is trying to whatever, like wants to buy, like, I don't know, spend a million dollars on something. It's your job to say, no, that's not even my money. That's my client's money. So I don't have money. But instead he turned around and said, here, here's my credit card. Go have fun.
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So he is literally, So when she found out that, oh, actually, not only you don't have money, you are actually a scam artist. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't want to marry. So, I mean, come on.
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Yeah. Like what are they saying?
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The link is down below to pre-order.
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You know what
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Yeah, that's weird.
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The video is still up?
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That's so weird.
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That is so weird. You could delete that too, right? That's so weird.
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Oh.
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Hmm. Okay. Wow.
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Oh, that's it?
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Most Desirable Woman in Japan Quits Her Hosting Job to Marry a Man - Turns Out He’s a Scammer
I do think it's fascinating because, you know, we talk so much about hosts and hostess club. At the end of the day, it's a lot of psychology game, right? Technically, all you're going there is to get your, you're trying to have a good time and you're trying to get something out of it, like your ego stroked, right? It's a lot of mental psychology behind these, in these environments.
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So I think for someone to be in there all day long, all you do is looking at this person across from you and trying to see what gets them going.
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Like, what does this guy want? What does this guy want?
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Because I bet you just kind of start starting to know if I say this, oh, they're going to buy a champagne. They're going to do this. They're going to be happy.
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So it's like, right? It's a very interesting job.
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Right. So the customer can't even spend two glasses of champagne.
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His wife.
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In bed with another man.
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So she this is like a side quest.
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And they look like a supermodel.
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And the daddy is the CEO of Samsung. Yes. And you are not the main character.
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His wife. In bed.
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And then they ended up to pay more the next time.
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You know, so I've done a lot of the Tony Robbins programs. I've done the Day of Destiny, the Business Mastery, Unleash the Power of Thin. What's interesting, I've also done like the Joe Dispenza meditation stuff. Have you heard of that? Yeah. And it's fascinating because both of them are focused on the mind, on controlling the mind, reprogramming the mind and very different approaches.
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But at the end of the day...
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Yeah, your wife sounds like the one we need to be talking to. You guys do. Incredible for her to pull that out of you. Yeah. I was going to ask you, are you, so obviously you were motivated to change personally. Um, are you at a stage where like seeing other people, like not being the person to impact others, um, drives you more than change yourself? Like, yeah.
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Where do you, where do you find the most motivation?
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#138: Hunting For Greatness In The Extreme // How Andy Elliott Changed Who He Is / Next Level Pros Podcast
You know, it's interesting because we had a so we went to this program at Harvard OPM, but we marketing has changed a lot. And we talked about this in a case study where in the past there was only there's few channels for marketers and a lot of stuff was driven by fear base. And now that there's this opened up with all social media and all these different platforms. The people buy into hope.
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The heart. Yeah. And so now it's changed. You know, you can't do fear-based marketing like you used to. Yeah. It has to be based off of something that people want, people hope.
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Why am I not that guy? Have you ever heard that like people are a reflection of your inside? So like the things that bug you about other people are really things that bug you about yourself. Yeah, that was it. And so you saying F that guy, you're saying it to yourself. You're like, eff it, I'm not going to be that guy.
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Right.
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#138: Hunting For Greatness In The Extreme // How Andy Elliott Changed Who He Is / Next Level Pros Podcast
I heard people don't care what you believe. They care how much you believe in what you believe.
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#138: Hunting For Greatness In The Extreme // How Andy Elliott Changed Who He Is / Next Level Pros Podcast
Huge. That's when people want to follow you. That's called a pro.
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#138: Hunting For Greatness In The Extreme // How Andy Elliott Changed Who He Is / Next Level Pros Podcast
on fire it's like magnetic i have to say though us walking in here we we saw your culture right off the bat yep feel it right away we uh even had to do the arm again workout yeah uh 400 reps my arms are like what the freak do they do it every day oh yeah good for them good so we keep the gym in the company i love it so they can go down you know how it is dialing or
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Going back to these books I have, I was thinking, what am I going to do? Pass them down to Teddy and Otis and then they have this shit to lug around as heavy and like... Ultimately, I mean, it did feel this week like something bad is going to happen to those at some point, either a flood or a fire. Like they're not forever things.
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Okay. They're basically in a deadlift stance, kind of. So like a clean and jerk?
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But I also don't want Teddy and Otis to inherit that and go, I guess I have to keep this now.
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Maybe. But I don't know. It seems kind of stressful to me. But yeah, whatever. Anyway, I'm leaning towards getting rid of stuff. And you're not.
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Well, when have I looked at my dad's Vietnam yearbook?
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Well, he actually he's he's makes quite a few pages in it because he was very.
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Fast twitch muscles. So when you go from zero and you need to go from like zero to a sprint or like you need to go from static, not moving to moving real fast.
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He was in the Seabees, so he was in the construction battalion, and they would do construction to set up situations for other army troops that are coming in and stuff.
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Because I don't know what I'm talking about.
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And apparently the vice president's son at the time was in my dad's command.
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I don't think he'd care if I have his Vietnam, you know.
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Okay. I hear you about the tactile stuff, and maybe we'll pull that out one night and have a big old let's sit around and look at this stuff.
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You know what keeps me... Come on. You know what keeps me feeling sane as opposed to out of my mind, overwhelmed with things? Yeah. Knowing that I'm treating my body well every day and I have been taking these little adorable magic mind shots. I'm going to take one right now.
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Oh, it's so good. How was that first swallow?
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I've never felt, I mean, I've never had to swallow like that on like a mic. But these shots, I've now had them every day for 21 days.
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I'm not kidding. I've noticed such a difference in how I feel throughout the day. There have been a few days I've missed them. And those are the days I'm like, I need an afternoon nap. And then guess what I need after the afternoon nap? 75 cookies. When I take these, I don't feel the need to go to those kind of get me through time and space coping mechanisms.
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Gosh, there are so many just like people are so interesting.
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Not circumcised? Now that is a niche Reddit.
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Oh, and shod. You don't think it means... Okay. Because this is an interesting post in that community, I would imagine.
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Well, reflexes... Yeah, I guess fast reflexes employ twitch muscles.
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Because I'm guessing a lot of the posts in the barefoot community are about like barefoot runners or people who are actually taking barefoot beyond the home.
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And this guy's coming to say, hey, how do y'all do it? Like, if anyone's going to help me, it's going to be you. Barefoot, unshod people. Because I can't even be barefoot. Like, how do you cope with the eyes glaring at you?
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I thought you were going to say there are only four members.
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Wait, let me see if twitch muscles... You ever been with a baseball player?
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I just Googled unshot without shoes or barefoot.
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The minute a barefoot picture shows up, even though it's going to get taken down pretty quick, that's the money shot. That's just...
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stitches everywhere like there's someone just waiting okay no no no no no no no i do think that there are i think you're allowed to do pictures it's just not just picture posts it says right so the pictures have to have context what a gold mine for sex like people with feet fetish because there's a place that's pure so it even feels naughtier
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We are all about soul skin touching earth. Now, I have a question for you.
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I am so excited to chat with you as though no one were listening. Are you okay?
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Yeah. I don't like being barefoot at home because my feet get cold.
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I love a sock. I don't know how this would be received in that community. But I love like a cozy sock. Now, when I was looking at Unshod.
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I've always wondered this and I've never had the venue to ask this question.
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But here we are. Life is wild. It says, for a person's foot or a horse's hoof without a shoe is unshot. Here's my question. What's the deal with horseshoes? I mean, I know there are farriers we've talked about. Their whole profession is putting shoes on horses. And I do believe that horses' hooves are made of keratin, which is what our nails are made of.
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And they need to be tended to just like our nails and stuff. But like wild horses, they're not getting shoes and they get around just fine.
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Maybe horses need shoes. Yeah. To protect their hooves from excessive wear and tear caused by hard surfaces.
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marry someone else baseball player that in the off season was a farrier holy shit I'm not I'm not like I'm not I don't have like a big boner for baseball players or anything oh I thought it sure came off that way I just think they have cool butts to look at okay what okay so what do you want in a man I need someone who's funny and like who who I don't think horse farriers are funny right they're just about
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My mom's best friend, who my sister was named after partially, Anna Marie.
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She dated a farrier because she was a horse person.
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I remember my mom, like, this is one of those occasions I wish I could call my mom and have her on the podcast. I'm a little jealous. Have her be a field chorus while they're... Because back in the day, I remember her... She would throw around the word farrier all the time and talk about Anne-Marie's boyfriend.
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And I suspect she and I might have now as adults a similar conversation where she's going, this farrier. Like, you can't believe how lucky Anne-Marie is to be dating this farrier. Now... Is he the funniest man alive? No, but you know what I mean?
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Wow. Wait, I'm kind of surprised that you're bringing this up as the thing that we're talking about.
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And you have to... Yeah, you have to be rugged, like...
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Social... Economic... The wealth ladder. Well, my... I mean, I don't think she struggled, but I don't think my...
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When you have horses. So much stuff. By the way, I wanted to shout out a place. I mentioned and someone was like, how? I haven't bought a lot of clothes, which is fine. I kind of need new clothes now. And I know this is counter my whole I want less stuff things. Yeah. But I do want to be more about buying secondhand and quality stuff. And I wanted to shout out my favorite store in L.A.
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Can I get into the whole thing with your dad?
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that does just that, which is Too Many Jackets.
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It's highly curated, really great stuff at really reasonable prices and And it's all good, good quality. And so that's if I'm shopping, that's where I'm going. I dig it. OK. And that's not an ad, by the way. That's just me saying I fucking love it.
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How much time are you spending on this barefoot Reddit?
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Now, that post, I would imagine, is an outlier. Like, what are most of the posts about? Is it about, hey, how do you get, like, glass out of your foot? How long ago was your last tetanus shot? And what, you know?
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So, like, you know, you post clips on our Instagram, right? The clip you should have posted is obviously the phone call with your parents. But you didn't.
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I have to tell you, Andy, in my Pilates class, they have a new rule that you must have grippy socks for safety. And of course, this is the very first time I went to Pilates and I forgot grippy socks. And I had to spend $20 to get their grippy socks. But there was a woman in my class, barefoot. And I was like, oh, so first of all, I guess the rules don't apply here.
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Mostly because I felt like I had to spend $20 right there and then to get the socks.
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But then I was like, I mean, everyone can see she's not wearing socks. The teacher can. It's like, it's no secret.
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But then I was like, and it's unhygienic. And then I was like, is it unhygienic? I mean, I guess we're walking around in our socks as well. Like, are her feet collect? I guess it's, I basically undid my own argument and I couldn't find a way to get as as I wanted to be.
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No encouragement. No, yeah. And we encourage you to bring fresh socks. Okay, what is this? What happened in Walmart?
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Because here you go. Yes, you can be barefoot in Walmart. Walmart does not require customers to wear shoes. There are no federal or state laws in the U.S. that prohibit being barefoot in public places. So go on. Walk into Walmart barefoot.
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Now if that sign were posted and it's, yeah, then it's a different story. I really, you know, I admire someone who likes what they like and wants to experience the world. I guess if you love being barefoot and, you know, some people have some sensory things, maybe your feet being stuck in socks and shoes feels yucky. Yeah, yeah. I actually know someone who was so low on vitamin D that something.
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But the truth is, you didn't tell your dad that you were including.
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I do. They had this weird thing where they had to press in between their toes. I'm just kidding. They constantly into the degree that they had to like put rolled up paper towels in between their toes.
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It was driving them crazy. The sensation of not having something in between their toes. But it turns out it was a vitamin deficiency. But I would imagine being barefoot out in the world that we've created. Now, if you live out on the beach or something or like it would be different. But we have we live in a pigsty.
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You know, we live in hot asphalt and hypodermic needles everywhere and shit like that. That just seems like such a risky lifestyle to take on.
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What is it? Now, can I I found a gaming sub that someone said, hey, just asking. I saw someone when I was at Walmart today who got out of their PT cruiser and then walked into the store completely barefoot like nothing was out of the ordinary. I mean, I get that some people would rather go barefoot than actually wear shoes because it's more comfortable. But why in public?
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Give me your thoughts on why people do this. And someone said, people do anything for attention.
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I know, I already got... I got raised for... Is raised the word? I got scorned for my boomer take on tongue piercing. I did... I think that in the Venn diagram of barefooters, okay, of unshod... There is quite a big center area to shade in that is the douchebags who have to have their dogs off-leash and who I contend a lot of that is for attention and un-shotters.
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And I think that's a big part of it. Oh, yes.
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Oh, yes. Now, I'm not talking about people who live out in the countryside. Off-leash, you're a little hard out.
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I'm talking about the people walking around in fucking Silver Lake. In and out of traffic and near other people whose dogs are on leash and who are making people go crazy.
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And I have to say, your parents together, like your mom's little quips in the background made that clip, you know, sprinkled something extra on that. So I want us to have a weekly segment and someone...
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And I would say. If you're going to find an unshod man in Silver Lake. Nine times out of 10, he's got his dog off.
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I, you know what? I can say these things on the podcast and I actually want to mea culpa my tongue ring thing. I said this last week as well. Yeah, I'm passing judgment because you and I are talking as though no one's listening. The truth is, if I'm out in the world, I don't care. Like, you do you. It's your feet. It's your tetanus. It's your whatever.
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As long as, you know, I hope I don't wish bad things for you. I wish for all good things for you. I don't know you. And you do you.
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And I have misophonia. And also, I do think because I had a pool ball fall on my face from a pool table when I was a child, and I...
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crunched on all of my teeth you know and bleeding and stuff that um that might have something i have a little bit of a why would you want a metal clickety clack in there it's like too easy of a leap to make i think easy but maybe andy get i i had a pool ball fall on my fucking no one is saying that you didn't give me the i get to play that card as much as i want
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So I think they went pretty well. I think we made some breakthroughs and connecting some dots. She's been having a hard time because she's been getting a lot of pushback from some of her, I guess, vocal judgments on other people.
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Well, she's been vocal in her social circle about people who have tongue rings.
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Yeah, I said social circle. Okay. And she feels alienated and she wishes she had never said anything. But the truth is, it's really triggering for her to see someone in an accountant office with a tongue ring.
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Well, I didn't even ask. We actually uncovered together.
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After speaking for a while and letting her kind of find her... You did stick with the 45 minute allotted time.
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She has issues with like being around people who chew food with their mouths open. And I talked to her about misophonia. And then she realized when she was a child, she at a slumber party in the middle of the night, she was sleeping and a pool ball fell off the pool table she was sleeping under and fell directly onto her nose and mouth.
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Very traumatizing. And she woke up thinking and feeling guilty that she had ruined these people's pool ball, the eight ball, because she... That was her first thought after this? Yes, because she thought this wasn't a really close friend of hers and it was... A rich kid and they had a really nice house and she felt bad that she had ruined their eight ball.
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Because she thought she bit into the eight ball. And it turns out she just was crunching on the crumbles of her own teeth that had shattered.
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Well, I think the sound and the clickety clack.
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Well, and she linked it to having mesophonia, having a hard time hearing people, too.
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You look like you're really repping. You have your NLR merch.
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You're a horrible therapist, Andy. Okay. Wow. Glad you got to the bottom of that. You just role played being an authority with no like, but you, Andy, have no training and that you just as the authority at the end get to go. There's no correlation.
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I know. But what was this seemed to me that the point of that whole role play was for you at the end to go. You're making a leap by connecting.
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So you led us into this whole role play to say, as the therapist, you're making a leap by connecting this trauma to this thing.
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Because you, Andy, think that. So you just had me do a five-minute role play and... Putting yourself in a position of authority to at the end go, I'm going to say the thing that Andy thinks in case closed.
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Yes. And hopefully everyone who's listening has gone to subscribe and like and listen.
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I don't know. I didn't know why we were doing it.
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Just for you, Andy, to inform me, Elizabeth, that there's no link or connection for me.
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Do you think the editors are having a hard time?
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I wonder if it's he's so used to his beautiful face. being a source of, like, comfort or, you know, he's a great big movie star and people look to him for things. Like, he's one of those people, I am sure, who when he walks into the room, even if people don't turn to look at him, the energy in the room suddenly goes to him. That is such a weird sensation.
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We've been in rooms many a time where so-and-so walks in and you can kind of feel, like, All of the spirits in the room are turning to the sun.
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Even if you're still like in it, you feel the person you're talking to sort of like the energy goes over there. Yeah. And I think he's one of those people. And so I think he's just so accustomed to be like, I'm a soft landing pad for you. I'm a kind person. I'm a warm person that when someone is like wanting of him or even if they're not, he's going to offer that.
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Right. Well, you have – I mean, when you love food – You get very angry looking and like the more you love it, the more enraged you look. And it's weird. You're like, this is, it's like you get really serious about it.
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I'm worried lately. So when we play Tetris... You know, you hum and you make these like weird noises and stuff. And you made the point because I'm like, please stop humming. Please stop humming. And you're like, I can't control it. And then you said, don't correct me.
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But... But... I... Why should I, like... You don't like being told not to hum. Like, I don't like it when you're humming while we're playing Tetris.
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But the fact that you don't know that you're doing it is a worry. And I will say, genetically... There are people on your genetic line that seem to make a lot of boops and bops and noises.
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If I don't know if I'm doing it. Do you know that when you get, I mean, it's already started. This is the thing. I like see that we're going to this. And I wonder if there is a way to intercept it. Yeah. When you get, like, nervous or anxious, you start, like, singing or, like... Oh, sure.
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Like, if you're driving and there's, like, a near miss, you're like... Oh, fuck. But, obviously, if this is one of your quirks, then there's just nothing that we can do about it.
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I'm happy to... There's just nothing we can do.
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Maybe. And I don't realize it. This is why we should keep the conversation going. And I know it started in a bad way because I was like, stop humming.
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I don't know. I don't know what you're like in the studio. I don't think so.
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because you're a coward yeah oh so delightful okay okay what a day what a day so i wanted to talk to you about um and i think this is coming off of the fires and everything oh okay I, right now, I just went to Goodwill. We have friends who unfortunately lost their house in the fire. So I was collecting stuff to take to them.
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Oh, it was your finger. Yeah. How you put your hands in this kind of funny, I'm doing it on camera, this funny position.
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And you always have. Now, I will say, I can remember when we were very first dating. You were on your skateboard in New York City.
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Well, not then. Not that time. You rolled up to me and I noticed you had your hands up at your side. And it's like a balance thing or something. But when you're really concentrating, you put your middle finger kind of out further from your other fingers and you hold your hands in a certain way. And that's just you.
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And I have me things. And these are little dumb things. The humming and bleeps and bloops is a little more like, is everything okay? Yeah.
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Okay. Well, do you want to know something? I do hear some things sometimes.
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Yes. I hear the kids calling for me when they haven't.
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And it could be like there's something outside that sounded like a kid or whatever. We don't know. But I have had a few times where it is clear as day.
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And I know it's one of the kids or I hear another voice saying something. And I'm like, I always listen to those voices. I'm serious. Because you read these stories and you're like, you read stories about moms who they hear a very clear voice saying something.
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you know get the kids out of the ocean or whatever it is and they do it yeah there's a horrible thing that they'd near missed and sometimes i think i think we have guardian angels or spirits or whatever yeah and sometimes i think they intervene well i think that's if it's just a one-off if you're at the beach and you think you hear get your kids out of you have that at target yeah
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There's a barefoot. There's an unshod. That's not funny.
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There's a group of unshod people getting on the escalator.
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And also, I think that dirt really gets into this. Like your foot getting into those nooks and crannies on an escalator.
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Dirty. But maybe part of the unshod beauty is like, look, we're all dirty. Now, I hate to bring this up, but I saw recently, and it probably was some sort of ad or something, but it was like steam cleaning two equivalent homes.
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One is shoes off at the door. Uh-huh. And the water from the shoes on at the home was like black and... And the water from the shoes off at the door was just tinged a little bit. The amount of dirt that we are bringing in on our shoes. And the thing about being unshod is... there's no like taking it off really, unless you take the time to clean your feet when you walk in, which is lovely.
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Yeah. I remember when the kids were babies, though. And we were like, you know, going through the phase of putting everything in your mouth. And that's probably when we became more shoes off in the house people.
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We're getting them set up in a new was empty house that now is getting outfitted and stuff for them.
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We're I'd say 80% of the time shoes off. Mm hmm. The kids, then I read a thing that was about like how, no, don't sanitize everything. That's like part of the problem of our immune systems. And the kids that have dogs who are like licking them in their mouths and stuff like that is actually helping their immune systems. And sometimes being dirty is just fine.
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This is funny because you especially. I'm usually like, no, you can keep your shoes on. I'll say shoes off. I mean, I'll say, oh, we're shoes off. I mean, I also think if you walk into someone's home and there are a bunch of shoes by the door.
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Great. But you and I really don't care. And if people are coming over, also we... We spend a lot of time out in our yard. We eat out there. We do all sorts of stuff. And you have to walk through our house to get to the yard. So people taking their shoes off to only walk through and then put them – it doesn't matter.
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But also my dear friend Lili Pitts organized this like hub in East L.A. of curated clothes for families who lost their homes to shop from. What everyone's done is incredible. But I went to that hub and I was so overwhelmed, even though that one was like well run and curated. But there's just so much stuff. And I feel like everyone in L.A.
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But I went to a party recently, and I am pretty sure I know it to be a shoes-off house. And so when I came in, I took my shoes off. But because it was a social event and gathering, everyone's wearing their shoes. No big deal. But then I was like, I'm the person with the shoes off. No big deal. I could have put my shoes back on. But anyway, I think just context clues and stuff like that.
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And I think it's on the person. Yeah. If you're not saying, oh, hey, do you mind taking your shoes off? And now I feel like back in the day that was a big, like, take my shoes off. Now I assume most people are familiar with the, you know, situation. Mm-hmm. If they don't say that, I think you can assume shoes are fine. Unless there are a pile of shoes by the door.
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Context clues. But you want more clear rules. Yeah.
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I think that unless it's stated clearly or you see, you're fine. Okay. Good. Yeah. Great. Okay. Well, good night. Good night.
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pitched in, and the first thing they thought is, I mean, a lot of people donated money, as we did, also to GoFundMes.
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But I have all these clothes I don't use. They could be put to good use.
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So everyone's cleaning out their closets and stuff.
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thing for it was like donate your goth clothes for goth teenagers i saw that too i think that was sarah burns yes yes that sounds so right yeah yeah so anyway such an incredible spirit behind all of it but i think it has you know we have lead a pretty minimal life mostly because we just have a small house we moved from new york where we had a small place and we have to be pretty strategic about what we buy and bring in and where it goes and stuff
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No, no, it's not a hot take. It's a personal take.
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I really like the idea of having like pretty much no stuff.
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Like putting a pole over my shoulder and tying a bandana to the end of it.
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I'm not a stuff person, but I think more so now than ever. And it's probably because of the like, oh, we got to get out of here. And did I take the right things and all of that? Yeah. I might be becoming a minimalist.
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So how do you feel about stuff and things? Because I think you could have now speaking of your parents.
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And by the way, their home is lovely and it's very them and it was lovely and very them. But a lot of stuff and things. And your parents are collectors. What were those like big tea kettle things that they collected from Russia?
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It's boring. I do like a baseball physique. They've got butts and hips.
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But your parents also look at a blank wall and shudder. It's, like, offensive. It's too bright, the light. And so they hang every inch of the walls in your home. Yeah, there's a lot of... It does become a work of art with all of their treasures and stuff, but it is...
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For someone who doesn't love stuff, and I like small curated stuff, but to walk into your home, I did appreciate it, but it's a lot. It's like floor to ceiling stuff.
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guns spurs old spoons this that the other knickknacks paddywhacks just to be clear when we say guns we mean it's like old guns it's not like new like assault rifles no no no but still they are guns i mean there were guns just floating around yeah um so hanging around That stresses me out. Like the idea of living like that. I love it for your parents.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened with all that stuff? Where did it go?
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They've got the whole package. Heads, butts. Some have some girthy hips.
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See, that stresses me out too. And that's something I think I carry over from losing my parents. And they didn't even have like an extra storage unit with stuff.
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Not like that. Yeah. So that will be, I mean, let's just be real. That will be your and your brother's project.
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How do you feel? What's your relationship to stuff? Has this past month changed any of that for you?
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Yes. And on that note, so another thing, when it was time to flee, I was like, I grabbed the kids' baby books. But then I have all of these photo albums with all the pictures of my childhood and stuff that don't have digital copies and are precious. But there's so many and they're not organized and they're kind of like... I was like, I can't – if I take one, I have to take them all.
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Like I can't figure out right now which is the photo album. And so now I want to scan everything. And it made me realize I have like my dad's Vietnam – like they made yearbooks for the kind of Vietnam Navy outfits. So I want to just scan the – Yearbooks? Yeah.
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I just want to scan the... You got to get scanning then. I want to scan it all, but I'm like, we can get rid of a lot of that. Old yearbooks of my parents, things like that.
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But let me ask you this. I'm keeping it because I feel like, oh, this was my parents's.
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But I, and if I have it scanned and I have the page from my dad's Vietnam thing and I don't even like support war and you know, I don't even know how I, whatever, like bad to say, bad thing to say, you don't, you're, you don't like that.
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You're peacocking. It's like, do you know what deadlifts are in the gym?
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I don't know. Like I'm keeping this like celebration of war.
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A yearbook? Isn't a yearbook like celebration of high school kind of?
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Do you know there was a huge scandal in my high school because the people who did yearbook would give like superlatives and quotes, assign quotes to people.
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And some of them people, some kids felt like theirs were like attacking or mean spirited.
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And so it turned into a huge thing. Well, anyway.
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But you're not Mormon. You mean get divorced and remarried?
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I've literally never once known you to step foot into a gym.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Welcome to Pablo Torre Finds Out. I am Pablo Torre. And today we're going to find out what this sound is.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Aber ich denke immer daran, dass, wenn du eines Tages der Präsident der Baseball-Operation für deine Kindheit sein würdest, es helfen würde, keine Smartphones in der Schule zu haben. Wir haben gerade die iPhone-Ära verpasst. Die Eröffnung von Social Media, aber keine Smartphones. Das ist wahr.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Right, working on the collective bargaining agreement.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Für die Leute, die es nicht wissen, ist der CBA der legale Text, der den Sport und die Kontakte und die Regeln regelt. Und an welchem Punkt kriegst du einen Sinn? Oh, warte, ich finde hier eine Nische. Ich bin derjenige, der Blöcke machen kann.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Es gibt etwas über den klugen Jungen, der in eine Fantasie-Schule ging, der bereit ist, Sch**** zu powerwashen. Literal und figurativ. Ich erinnere mich daran, dass ich dich aus der Nähe gesehen habe, in einem sehr ungläubigen Weg.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Und dann kommst du auf die andere Seite und sagst, dass du, aus meiner Perspektive, nachdem ich noch nie mit dir darüber gesprochen habe, dass du diesen entwickelten und akuten Sinn des Geldes hast, der in dieser Wirtschaft fließt.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Also, an diesem Punkt, nur um die Moneyball-Parte einzusetzen, weil das ein bisschen wie eine Kurzhandlung ist, aber Moneyball wurde 2003 veröffentlicht. Hast du das Buch gelesen? Ja, ich habe es gelesen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
So that's part of the reason why I'm painting this picture. It's because you were not like a computer science PhD math guy. No. But like Theo Epstein, you found... wiederum eine Nische, die ich versuche zu kristallisieren.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
So this skill set is developed as you go and become the assistant GM of the Astros. And that's 2012 to 2015, by the way, just for the record. Gone before scandal.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Had you considered banging on trash cans when you were there because it would have helped? No, that was not... That was not a topic of discussion while I was there. But your reputation, truly, in the front office there in all seriousness, is growing to the point where you become the youngest GM hired in baseball at the time, 2015. And you get to the Brewers.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
And these are two small market franchises, again, measured by TV revenue, Milwaukee, Houston, not as much TV money as, say, New York. And at that point, when you're developing what your sources that you trust are, Can you give me a sense of what that means? And whether, even more helpfully maybe, how much variance is there across the league in terms of what people trust?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Einige Kinder hatten Blackberries, richtig? Ja, ich hatte einen Motorola Razr zu einem Zeitpunkt, was all meine Weise ist, zu sagen, dass ich gestern Nacht, weil ich ein investigativer Journalist bin. Okay. Meine Frau schreit mich an, dass ich ein Hörer bin. Und so habe ich einen alten Laptop gefunden, den ich vergessen hatte. Und ich habe eine Bildung gefunden, die ich euch zeigen möchte. Oh Gott.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Yeah, when you look back at Milwaukee, though, and again, you oversee what is arguably, I think, the most successful stretch for that franchise. It's four straight playoff berths. 2018 to 2021. Wie beschreibst du das, was du dort implementiert hast, was dich dazu gebracht hat, etwas zu tun zu lassen?
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Was ist das? Erzähl mir, wenn du dich erinnerst, was das ist. So, the guy I'm showing my laptop to, the guy I've tricked into visiting our studio here today, as America turns to pitchers and catchers, is David Stearns.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ich würde sagen, dass ich dich noch nie kennengelernt habe oder sogar gesehen habe, dass du dich in irgendeiner Weise erschreckst. Ja, es ist komisch, du bist komisch, sogar, Kiel, bis 20 Jahre her, würde ich sagen.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Wie wichtig ist es, dass man diese Nullität hat, zu, äh, was andere Menschen panikieren würde, wie der Herz-Rate-Monitor-Ding, richtig? Ja. Aber wirklich, wenn ich darüber denke, weil Theo Epstein, denke ich auch nicht so emotional. Ich denke darüber, wie es in diesem Scouting-Report von dir geht, das tatsächlich sinnvoll ist.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
But I say this to say that that's not,
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Und übrigens, in meinem Geschäft, Gott sei Dank. Ja, genau. Es ist toll, jemanden zu haben, der sagt, lass mich dir sagen, wie ich mich gerade fühle.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
And again, I guess I'm here to just fact check that.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
It's the way you've been as far as I've known you, even when pucks were flying at your head. Yeah, exactly. But the point being that 2022 comes around, you step down from that role in Milwaukee.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
And simultaneous to this timeline, I just want to get the details right here, November 2020, Steve Cohen, who is again, for those unacquainted, one of the hundred richest people in the world, he's a hedge fund manager, multi-billionaire, he acquires officially majority ownership of His childhood team and yours.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
A guy who is now at age 39, the president of baseball operations for the historically despondent team that David grew up rooting for, which now happens to be one of the most fascinating teams in all of sports. The New York Mets. David hat vor kurzem den Ausfieler Juan Soto von den Yankees, meinem Kindheitsteam, beschlossen, Soto zu dem reichsten Vertrag in der Geschichte des Sports zu signen.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
So here you have these people who have felt in a real sense how important this team is to them and to New York. Quadrants of it, precincts of it. They buy from the Wilpons $2.42 billion, and he is the richest owner in baseball. And now, taking us to Fall 2023 after two seasons, he hires you. Yeah. Do you remember the day you signed your contract?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Es ist nicht ganz der kinematische Klimax. Nein. Aber es fühlt sich völlig entsprechend an, dass du ruhig gesagt hast, es ist Zeit, meinen Kindheitsdreh zu leben. Klick. Wir werden uns immer daran erinnern, dass Sport ein anderes Geschäft ist. Ja, keine Frage. Das sind Institutionen, die eine zivilistische Bedeutung haben. Emotional Stakes, Ancestral Pressures. Und New York, ich meine, schau mal.
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The whole thing about New York, right? Because, again, I grew up living it, watching it, mythologizing it, admittedly. But, like, it is different. Sure. How would you characterize what actually is different about operating in New York?
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Für mich fühlt es sich immer so an, als ob es Leute testet. Das Spotlight ist tatsächlich heißer. Manche Menschen melden, andere Leute sind cool genug, um einfach zu genießen, was sie können. Und, wiederum, in einer Art Funhaus-Mirror-Welt. Es ist alles seltsam, aber ich habe auf Talkradio gelesen, und ich bin zurückgegangen, um zu sagen, It is absurd.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
I'm hearing the guy I wrote sports with in college. They're debating you all of the time.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
You're a character now. As much as you're anonymous, you're also very by name this person. And, you know, if you're not able to handle that, hard job to have.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Who listened to talk radio, and now you're the guy who's like, I can't.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ein 15-jähriges, 765-Millionen-Dollar-Verein. Eine wirklich surrealistische Dynamik, die wir diskutieren werden. But I first encountered David Stearns more than 20 years ago now, when we were freshmen covering sports for the college paper, which this picture that I'm showing him here, which you can see on our YouTube channel, can confirm.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
So you've made this choice to be, again, very logically cloistered. weg von all dem anderen. Was mich dazu bringt, war Grimace. Ja. Als Grimace die erste Pitch veröffentlicht hat, hattest du den Eindruck, dass etwas Historisches passiert ist?
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Das hat auch zu mir erklärt, Und so I'm going to jump in here to also explain what was happening with the Grimace Phenomenon and the Mets to you, dear listener, just in case. Because this part of the story starts on the morning of June 12th, 2024. Back when the New York Mets were bad. Under 500, 17 and a half games back in the division, that kind of bad.
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Aber an dieser Nacht war ein Besucher, ein bestimmter Besucher aus McDonaldsland, der den ersten Pitch für die Mets gespielt hat. Ja, das war eine Bildung für mich. Wie würdest du es beschreiben, was Grimace ist, jetzt, dass er dir erklärt wurde?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ich mag es nicht, wie der GM, der in einem Hotdog-Maskott-Kostüm rief, keine Ahnung hatte. Nein, nein, ja, nein, nein. Ein echter Betrug deiner Art. Nein, nein, keine Ahnung. Und noch nicht. David Stearns' Mets haben das Spiel am Abend gewonnen. And the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, and the next, ultimately winning seven games in a row, becoming a real thing online.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Whereas the extremely offline David Stearns had no idea, which is just funny, right? Like the guy running the team was too busy tinkering with the roster, making baseball decisions under the radar adjustments to realize a phenomenon in his own building. Aber das Mets-Rekord, wenn man sich zurückblickt, war 28-37 vor Grimms. Nach Grimms waren sie 61-36, das einzige beste Rekord im Fußball.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Und ihr habt, ich meine, ich musste nur schauen, ihr habt 11 Wettbewerbe gehabt. Ja. Die meisten im Fußball. Ja. Diese Saison. Und meine Leidenschaft wird gespürt, weil ihr seid wirklich, wenn es die Postseason wird, You become the best TV show in America. Did it feel like that to you?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
It was f***ing nuts.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ja.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Pete Alonso in der neunten Minute, um die Brewers in der Wildcard-Runde zu gewinnen. Und dann, ja, es ist der Grand Slam in der Division Series.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ja, ja. Ich meine, ich habe diese Foto gefunden, um dich zu überraschen und mich zu erinnern, dass ich so aussehe, als hätte ich... Ich glaube, ich hätte bis heute Abend nicht mehr Alkohol getrunken.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Sie haben es wieder gemacht. Es wurde serialisiert. Nur jetzt erinnere ich mich, dass du für ein Team interniert hast, das direkt neben einem rechten roten Rollercoaster stand. Aber es fühlte sich wie ein roter Rollercoaster an. Es war wie, oh, das kann nicht auf den Tracks bleiben. Und ihr habt es in die NLCS genommen.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Yeah, that's admittedly me projecting as a Yankee fan. How are they doing this? So there was one moment, speaking of that celebration at Citi Field, and I just want to show it on my computer here, because it's this incredibly... Das war ein sehr, sehr, sehr, sehr, Freaking out in any way.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ja, in der Bildung stehe ich auf dem Tisch, auf der Ecke eines Tisches für die Liebe, während meine Augen ins Unbewusstsein fluttern. David, auf der anderen Seite, ist meistens nur ruhig lachend. Er sieht evengeheult aus. Und wir tragen Blasen und Metalle, übrigens, und wir sehen uns gar nicht wie ***, gar nicht. Oh, I'm sure, yeah. I mean, that's not an exaggeration.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
But in all earnestness, what's it like being the cool team in New York? Is there a just this feels surreal off-field experience you've had now that the Mets are this way?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Yeah, you've just described a lucid dream. Yeah. Which brings us to the biggest... priciest new member of the group that you signed. I mean, when it comes to surreal, like the most surreal headline I saw involving you was when you took Juan Soto from the Yankees. 15 years, $765 million. Unthinkable, I imagine, when you're operating a small market team.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Für die Leute, die Juan Soto nicht kennen, sind die Leute so wie, warte mal, warum ist er das wert? Wer ist dieser Kerl?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
It feels like you've mit Spenden verabschiedet werden, wie es sich in den nächsten sieben bis zehn Jahren anbelangt. Das ist der Zeitpunkt, um das größte Eingriff in der Sportgeschichte zu machen.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Und mittlerweile, deine ganze Sache, und ich möchte meinen Freund Jeff Passon hier beurteilen, gerade in Bezug auf den Kompliment, den er dir in der Schreibung bezahlt hat, vielleicht der Beste im Geschäft, den Wert um die Ecke zu finden, um ein Team von Sternen zu komplementieren. Das ist der Kompliment. Das ist, wie wir das, was du über deine Zeit auf der Klappe gelernt hast, kristallisieren.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Es ist interessant. Es ist, wie ich es mir vorstelle, manchmal sehr intensiv. Wie, naja, wir können sparen, aber mein rationales Gehirn sagt mir, dass das eine Überzahlung ist.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Und also, nur in Bezug auf das, wie man das macht, wiederum, Pete Alonso ist der allererste Beispiel, aber auch nur generell, wie die Prämisse, du bist der Typ, der den kleinen Markt-Baseball beherrscht, und jetzt bist du der Typ, der die Yankees ausspendet.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Ein Teil dessen, was ich in diese Konversation erwartet habe, war, dass es dein Herz und dein Kopf gibt. Es ist so, ah, ich will das machen. Wir haben die Ressourcen. Und es fühlt sich einfach so an, dass du das Herz so unter Kontrolle hast.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Hat ein junger Met-Fan von David Stearns, der auf Sports Talk Radio hört, in deinem Kopf einen Wert?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
What I found out today, I suppose, at the end here is that, yeah, it is true what I learned 20 years ago. You're also just not going to flinch if something unexpected happens to be heading your way.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Das ist eine andere Therapie-Session.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
David Stearns, Präsident von Baseball-Ops für eure New York Mets. Eine verrückte Sache, die wir machen konnten. Absolut. Ich freue mich. Es war Spaß. This has been Pablo Torre Finds Out, a Meadowlark Media Production. And I'll talk to you next time.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Und ich glaube nicht, dass sie das genossen haben. Nein, also diese Geschichte wurde in Baseball-Zirkeln verlinkt, aber ich war da, wenn das passiert ist. Du hast eine Schrift geschrieben, die für Harvard-Studierende anbietet, die Frauen-Ice-Hockey-Team zu besuchen.
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Und du hast es gemacht, indem du sagst, ich zeige es kurz hier, für alle Hockey-Fans, die die Crimson Men gespielt haben, die dieses Jahr Hockey schlafen lassen, die mehr effektiv als NyQuil sind, auf dem Weg zu einem Rekord von 10 und 13 und 2, Es wird wahrscheinlich eine frühe Entfernung aus dem Postseason-Spiel sein.
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Habt ihr gedacht, dass ihr vielleicht einfach zu Bright Hockey Center nach dem falschen Zeitpunkt vorbeigeht? Vielleicht ist es Zeit, dass ihr das andere Team kennt. In der Lore des Newspapers geht man zur Praxis, weil man aufsteht. Ja, es war Februar 20, 2004. Ja. Unser früheres Frühjahr.
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Ich denke, ich war wahrscheinlich ein bisschen mehr traurig über die Rest der Artikel und Kolumnen, die ich geschrieben habe.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Oh wow. And I bring this up just to say, like, if you had told us, oh, by the way, in 20 years, you're going to be the general manager of the New York Mets. What would you have said at that moment in your life?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Yeah, crazy. The biggest compliment I can pay you as a guy who grew up rooting for the Yankees and was unhinged about it. I remember putting a Yankee cap on the John Harvard statue. Me and Gabe Velez, another one of your roommates, stood on the thing, draped a Bernie Williams jersey over the statue.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
But I say all that to say that the biggest compliment I can pay you is that for the first time in my life as a Yankee fan, I am jealous of the Mets.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Es ist keine Überzeugung.
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Es ist lustig, ich dachte, wir waren Junge, als Facebook... Ja. ...wenn thefacebook.com startete. Erinnerst du dich?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
I wanted to set the psychological context though for what you're really saying. Okay. Because the responsibility you have is kind of unique in sports when it comes to like the particular combination of inherited dramas and so close heartbreakers and that little brother complex of like, look, the Mets were never supposed to actually compete with
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
the Yankees and all of the money and all of the history that the Yankees have had. The Mets, for people who don't know, right? 69 and 86, the two World Series. We were born in 85. So you don't have a psychological memory of the good times in terms of that.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Was ist das Schlimmste, was du als Met-Fan gefühlt hast? Ist da ein bestimmtes Spiel, ein Moment?
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
So walk us up to this.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Right. The whole thing people should understand if they're not familiar with the psychology of a Met fan is that You guys show up to school the next day.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Yes. When it comes to the Mets and money... Ich möchte kurz darauf hinweisen. Die Yankees hatten immer mehr Geld. Die Mets, die Wilpons, ich sage es so, dass du es nicht musst, aber die Wilpons, Bernie Madoff, Billion-Dollar-Klaubeck-Lasstufe, reduzierte Mets-Payrolls in den Jahren danach, nachdem Madoff in 08 verhaftet wurde.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Es ist eine verrückte Geschichte, wenn es um die Frage kommt, wie wir bezahlen werden, um zu bleiben. And at the same time, this is the team that inspired you, all of this, to get into baseball in the first place. And you don't start at a glamorous spot. I remember that you interned with the Brooklyn Cyclones, right?
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Richtig, der Art von Schicksal, den du haben musst, um zu sagen, ich habe einen Sommer, in Teilen, Power-Waschen in diesen Bathrooms. Und ich liebe das.
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Ich meine, so viele Kinder jetzt. Dein Job ist der Traumjob. Du weißt, diese Post-Moneyball-Generation. Es sind Kinder, die Fantasy-Baseball spielen. Es sind Kinder, die all diese Dinge machen. Videogame. Sie lernen. okay, ich werde kein Spieler sein, aber das ist eigentlich, was ich tun möchte. Das ist meine Fantasie.
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Living the Dream Job: What It's Like to Run Your Childhood Team, with David Stearns
Also in Bezug auf die Art und Weise, wie du die Bühne aus dem Hotdog-Suit gestürzt hast, was hast du gemacht?
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Ich erinnere mich, dass du, es war nicht so, oh, Dave ist auf der Fast Track.
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I've seen so many different versions of that same stat where you can even back it up to three minutes, four minutes, five minutes. They're all the same where it's like they were 0 for 1,414. Now they're 1 for 1,415 in this circumstance. Crazy. And yeah, you're right. The Pacers, they've proven that this is what they do.
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They're better conditioned than every other team. Yeah, and they've got guys that can hit three-pointers that can heat up. It's not like they're shutting teams down. The Knicks still scored points.
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Yeah. Okay. Halliburton, he may have just made the quickest transition from no aura to massive amounts of aura this postseason.
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Yeah, it was nuts. Aaron Neesmith pacer for life, right?
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Didn't play for anybody else. I mean, how was... Wait, did he play for somebody else? Aaron Neesmith? Yeah. Who did he play for, Hank? Oh.
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It was God mode. Yeah, so I think that the Knicks did kind of choke it a little bit, though. And that's not taking anything away from what the Pacers did because the Pacers were obviously great in those last three minutes. But Jalen Brunson's a great player. Love watching him play. Dog. Dog.
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He looked super shaky in the fourth quarter, whether it was inbounding the ball, whether it was bringing the ball up the court. He looked scared, and there were a few times when he turned it over. There were even more times when he should have turned it over and lucked out. He got very, very shaky in the fourth. I don't think I'm telling tales out of school with that one.
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Memes, would you agree with that?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I think he had several of those in the fourth quarter.
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And when Halliburton hit that last shot in regulation, after the ball hit off the back iron and went like eight, nine feet up in the air, I don't know about you, but I was like, oh, that's going in. Yeah. That's going to fall in. I also was like, that was Jim Irsay.
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Kirk Goldsberry told us it was like five people that voted for him.
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Yeah, voted him the most overrated. So it's really not that many people in the NBA, but they just didn't want to vote for anybody else because that's a fucked up award to give.
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Yeah. The whole thing was crazy. And it was, I saw people saying it was a double dribble. It was not a double dribble. It got poked away.
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But I would respect it if memes held firm and held the line and said that's a double dribble.
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Yeah. Memes, you are an all caps guy when something exciting happens. And when the Pacers were coming back, you said something like, the Pacers just won't die.
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But I saw that one and I was like, that's just memes being angry that the Pacers won't die. I was in shock. Yeah.
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That would be so sick. So, Memes, you stayed on your couch. 60 minutes. You were angry. I stayed on my couch and didn't move. Memes did text the group chat like four times, what time we're recording. Let me know.
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Let me know what time we're recording.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
You've been stewing. He's been stewing a little bit. Yeah, you don't handle loss as well, but that's fine. I think that most people at this office don't handle loss.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
That's actually a valid point.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, so I did see, if you're a Knicks fan, I hope that you just avoided, like memes, you avoided all sorts of sports media, even if you work on a sports media podcast. But I saw a lot of shows today just straight up burying the Knicks, just saying the Knicks cannot come back from this. Which is bullshit. I don't get that. It's bullshit. It's an overtime loss. The Pacers are a great team.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
They will never die. You have to kill them seven times if you want to actually murder them. But to say that the series is over, I respect the boldness of the take.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It is.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Great draft pick. Naismith, yeah. Brad Stevens, trust the process. Why did you get rid of him? Trust the process.
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I think that it's incredible that he was able to overcome what seemed like a jinxing
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choke that he made he tried to he tried to will the meme into existence before they won the game that feels like something that will come back to bite you and he just overcame that in overtime yeah but the reggie miller choke series the pacers lost that's true yep good point uh also here's another stat just one last stat this one's crazy
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I gave it to Pug.
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I said that like two days after they banned him for the entire playoffs. Because you could see a way that this would unfold when it feels like the punishment is too heavy. Yeah, ban him for the rest of that first series. I get that. Or I guess it would be the second series. Two home games of the second series.
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And he gave it to someone. And then it was given again. I think the Donnies are both going.
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let the man's dad watch his son dominate in the nba although him doing the clip of him at a bar doing the choke and having the towel and just going crazy was very funny but yeah let's get it back yeah i saw stavi threatened to to fight him he's like just let me fight his dad and then all is fair i think it's i think it's a fair i don't know if stavi wants that fight I think Stavi wants to fight.
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They're really, really good. And yeah, we laid into SGA a little bit on the last podcast. I still stand by the take that I don't like watching him when he's foul baiting, but he is a great player. He did less of the foul baiting tonight. Well, he won the MVP too.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Good one. Maybe god mode still? I'm going to go... I'm going to go Siakam because I like saying Siakam.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Max is able to pull up stats real fast. Real competition.
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Yeah, he was a dude. I agree 100%. This is exactly what I would do if I owned an NFL team. If I had that money... I would buy an NFL team. I would smoke cigarettes on golf carts. I would give away a lot of money. I saw a clip of him a while back. This was years ago where he was at a bills game and he was in the owner's suite at a bills game. And he was like talking back and forth.
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Some of the bills fans that were in front of him, like just friendly banter type stuff. And then after the game was over, the Colts had won. He just starts autographing $100 bills and just handing them to everybody. He's like, thanks for tolerating this, guys. I appreciate it. Here's some money. Enjoy yourselves.
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He would walk around with stacks of $100 bills in the thousands and just give them away to people. He did a shitload for people in the Indy. I know at the national level, what you know about Jim Irsay is probably limited to some of his demons.
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Which is fine, but I think it's actually good to point at this and say, if you're an addict, that doesn't mean that you're a bad person. No, and also... I think if you talk to anybody that dealt with him, they loved him in Indy, He was eccentric, yeah, but guess what? I would probably be eccentric if I had that much money too.
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He got rid of, I will never forget the fact that he is the first owner to have the balls to say fuck you to Dan Snyder when Snyder threatened to blackmail every other owner. And he goes, yeah, try me, because everything that I've done is out in the open. You're still a piece of shit, and we're going to do something about you.
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Do you think that they should have done it when it was like last year?
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He had that guitar collection, which is the best guitar collection in the entire world. He had, I think, three guitars that were worth over a million, two of which were worth like $4 million. And he had this huge collection that he would take out on the road and just be like, hey, everybody, please just come look at all these pieces of American history that I have.
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And he was offered a billion dollars by, I think it was Dubai, right? They offered him a billion dollars to buy his collection. He said, no, I'm not going to sell it for that. I don't care about the money. I just want to have it so that I can show people the collection that I have.
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Yeah, I mean, the man made several big mistakes in his life, but I don't think that that defines what he would. Because, like, I never got to meet Jamercy. I would have loved to have met the guy and to interview him or just to, like, introduce myself. We never got the chance to do that, unfortunately. But he did send us the giant banner of the Colts AFC finalists.
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And he wrote, I think he wrote those lyrics that he sent over to us. That said, like, it takes a good friend to tell you that you're pissing in the wind. Thanks for telling me I was pissing in the wind.
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And he was loyal to his players. If you ask any of the players that played for him, I've seen so many of them say like, yeah, this is a guy that loved football. He loved his football team and we appreciate that about him. They enjoy playing. He let Andrew Luck keep his money, right? Yeah. When Andrew Luck decides to retire and he tried to pay him back, Jim Mercy was like, no, you keep all of it.
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That's for you, buddy. Yep. You earned it. So there's going to be a giant hole in NFL history. Fridays and Saturdays this season, I don't know who's going to announce if the roof is open, closed, the window open, closed. I love that. I loved him. He loved his football team. It doesn't seem like he meddled with his football team, maybe sometimes to a fault. Yeah, I would say so.
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Probably to a fault with some of the hires that he has. But his extent of meddling with the team was, I just want to announce if the roof is open or closed.
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Which is awesome.
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Banned? So that you could be like, you guys are pussies.
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Yeah, it would have been sick. This was a great game by SGA. There's no doubt about it. I still get pissed off when he embellishes. I think the Timberwolves are at their wit's end with it, too.
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That was a little weird, Max.
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Is it like a wet dream?
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That's true. No, he's not a teenage boy. Yeah. When's the last time you had a wet dream? I don't know.
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The reports were that the tush push was going to be banned. So then Jeff Lurie was like, fuck it. I'm going to go all in. I'm going to invite Jason Kelsey, and I'm going to stand up in front of this room of owners and talk to them about coming in my bed sheets. And then Jason Kelsey is going to bring it home by getting up there and probably sweating and crying. And it worked.
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Reading behind the scenes in this, it's actually very funny how the tush push proposal came to be. Because it's a Roger Goodell thing. Yeah. It's Goodell, and it has nothing to do with player safety, despite what Hank thinks. It's just the fact that it's an ugly play, according to Roger Goodell. He's like, it's kind of a gross play, so I'm going to ask the Packers, who don't have an owner.
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They don't have any. Yeah, so Roger Goodell wanted to change this rule because he thought it's an ugly... He doesn't understand... The tush push is an ugly play, but it's got a great personality.
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And he doesn't get that.
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I did not know what the vote breakdown was.
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Yeah, Ben Johnson likes explosive plays.
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But he also, if you take that aside, he played a great game tonight.
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I think Kraft is one of the ones that switched up at the last minute. I think the Patriots switched up at the last minute because I think it's because Kraft likes to stick it to Goodell sometimes. And Vrabel was probably like, hey, we're going to be pussies if we vote.
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I hear you.
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Find me a clip of me saying I want to ban. I've been the most consistent person in the world. I have a point for PFT.
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Yeah, whatever you want.
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That's like a wet dream for me.
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You stalker. You stalker in the hopes that one of the things that you read from her might be kind of wrong.
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So, yeah, I mean, the best case that you can make for banning the tush push is so that we don't have to talk for another year about whether or not they're going to ban the tush push.
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It is an ugly play if you don't appreciate the beauty that you can find in gross stuff sometimes. Yeah, that's a fact. Which I can't. There's also more NFL news. Brock Purdy. Yeah. Got paid. I feel like we missed that. He got paid. Was that like last week? I think it was a couple days ago, but the details are coming out now. Oh.
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And the only thing you can look at that contract definitively, you can say he is the highest paid Brock of all time. Yeah, number one. Yeah, more than Lesnar. Really? Yeah. In his career? The UFC didn't really pay fighters that much. But what about WWE? Oh, I didn't think about WWE. He's made a lot of money.
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I think this might be the highest paid Brock of all time. This was like a week ago, by the way.
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So I guess what happened today was he gave a press conference about his contract.
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Yeah, and it is a lot of fun watching Connor McDavid play. Yeah. That's what I got from that take.
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panthers they just fucking worked the hurricanes again i saw um i saw biz say that or no i think it was whitney said that the panthers dominating like this probably makes least fans feel a little bit better yeah it makes capitals fans feel a lot worse yeah they're just they're just punishing the hurricanes and it doesn't look competitive at all yeah like i i think the panthers have already played their toughest series yeah
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They might be.
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They are. They had an injury tonight. I forget who got injured, but Ajo dove into somebody's leg and looked like an MCL.
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I think if it had been in the regular, the old format, but it had gone more true to, like, power schools getting the first round home playoff games, if that had happened for, like, four years, and then Boise State in year five, they get the home playoff game, then everyone's like, fuck yeah, this is awesome.
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With a bunch of chaos.
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I think they have to deal with the bowl contracts and stuff.
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So that's going to be tough. Yeah. Okay. Do we have anything else?
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Scheduled for next week. So we got a show on Tuesday. Tuesday and Friday. So no show Monday. Yeah. We do love you guys, but we're respecting the troops this weekend.
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Yep.
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To be like, this is the highest ever? I think if you're SMU, you can. A lot of players.
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A lot of players.
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Was it SMU Clemson?
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Yeah, I didn't really do much.
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I didn't really like going to class that much. That's fair. I had two classes that I liked to go to, and that's pretty much it. One of which I got a D plus in, and I was pumped about that. That is sick. Not a great college student.
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And they can hold a lead. Yeah, they can. They're a very tough team to come back on. They just, they, they get out in transition so fast. Oh, every turnover is – yeah. It's unreal. Like, they score before the defense even has a chance to fully get behind half court.
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You see all the work that goes into that. Raising one of these.
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Yeah. You see other guys doing it. You're like, you get jealous.
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Like you're not doing it right.
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I need to do that again. In that postseason, it felt like it was just like a team of destiny. When that shot went in where you were just falling through the air, threw it over the back of your head and went in. At that point, I was like, okay. he's gonna win a championship. Yeah, of course.
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That shot doesn't go in for somebody that's not gonna end up winning. Have you ever practiced that shot or were you just like, I'm just gonna throw it up?
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I got one thing to just bring to light. National Sports Podcast. Yep. They've got the best super fan in the world. Yeah, they got two. Well, I'm talking about Thundor.
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So where would you rank the nicknames between Flash, D. Wade, and then Way of Wade? Remember Way of Wade?
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Is it still popping? Yeah, we still got Way of Wade.
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I remember when you said, hey, guys, this is my new nickname. Just a heads up.
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Yeah, please call me Way of Wade from now on.
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Okay, I love it. Yeah. I love it.
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So I was trying. Yeah. So when Shaq comes over and he starts playing Miami, I know that Pat Riley and The Heat are famous for some of their conditioning rules. Was that an adjustment period for him where it's like, hey, we're going to weigh you in. We're going to take body fat measurements all the time.
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Brick Guy is cool. Who is Thundor? So Thundor, he rocks. He's oldie. He wears like a Mexican luchador hat, and he takes his shirt off. He paints his chest. He looks like oldie. He is the absolute best. I looked up some information about him. His name is Garrett. He's a social worker. and he changes on the way to games in a gas station bathroom. I love that. And this dude is the best.
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So even you, when you were unquestionably the face of the franchise, you'd have to do that every single day?
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Yeah, we have that here at Barstool too. They weigh us in, body fat. If we're in too good of shape, they don't let us podcast. You got to be fat.
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We got to get him on. Huge home field advantage, home court advantage. Yeah, there's Thundor right there.
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Thundor. Someone get us a Thundor. Figure it out. He lets out whoops. He needs an APAC. During foul shots. Yeah. His claim to fame is he was the first person to call Chris Kamen Chris Caveman when he was shooting foul shots. And I read an article. They did an interview with him a while ago. This is like maybe 10 years ago.
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He said, as a bigger guy, I grew up always wanting to swim with my shirt on. As goofy as I might be and how outrageous my antics might be, deep down I like to promote body positivity and feeling confident in yourself.
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Yeah, can you tell me about how the Banana Boat crew came together? We talked to Carmelo about this, by the way. I think he's miffed that he wasn't on the Banana Boat.
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He said he was too cool for it. He was not involved in Banana Boat.
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If I can take the thing that I'm most uncomfortable with and make that something that can entertain others or be a distraction for free throw shooters, then I took a negative into a positive. I love this guy. Thundor rocks. Thundor is the man. I would like to have him on PMT. You know it's a blowout when Thundor takes the mask off and he just enjoys the rest of the game. My job is done here.
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No, I think it's one of the best pictures of all time. Yeah. You look at that, and honestly, when I look at it, I think Carmelo should be there.
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Well, one's got to go. You got to kick somebody off the banana boat if you want to get Mello on.
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Smart move, smart man. Very smart. You can't kick Braun off.
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You can't kick Braun off.
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Okay.
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What was going through your head when he said not three, not four?
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Yeah, I don't know if he did that tonight, but he has done that. I think in the Nuggets blowout that they had in Game 2, I think he just was like, Thundor, my work here is done. And he went back into Clark Kent for the rest of the game. My watch has ended. Yeah, but this guy rocks. I love Thundor.
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I'm watching the video right now. You do put your head down. You're like, please stop.
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And then the camera pans to Pat Riley in the audience. He's like, Jesus Christ. What is he saying? We were talking to Mike Miller the other week, and he said that he felt a lot of pressure because of that.
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The role players, because they knew if you don't win, it's not the big three that are going to be in trouble, that are going to be gone, but it's everybody around them. Right. If the role players don't do their job and step up. So it was that, and then he was also a little bit upset. He never got invited to Boo Ray.
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Speaking of UD, he seems like the best locker room guy ever. The guy, like a nice veteran presence to have around. How long did he play for? Until he was 42 years old?
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I think he was 42 years old when he retired from the game. Yeah. And he was on the Heat for a long time, not really playing that much, but just being a presence in the locker room. What was his role in the locker room on some of those teams?
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The thing is, getting fired as a coach is actually kind of sweet.
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Getting paid not to work. That's what we all work towards.
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I think that the Timberwolves are going to figure out how to win one or maybe two at home. I think they'll figure it out. It's game three.
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Yeah, I'm interested to know about that Heat team in the first couple years because it really is fascinating that you've got all these superstars, superstars that have been the man in their own right everywhere they've played. It's been you are the best player on this team. You are the key to this franchise.
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You get together. And I think in theory, you guys are like, yeah, we know that it's going to take sacrifice. We know what it's going to be like to maybe take a backseat in certain points of the game or whatever. But then once reality hits, you start playing the games. That becomes a different story where you're now figuring out how to be a team on the fly.
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Like, what was that like feeling each other out for like, okay, here's how it's going to work in this situation. Yeah. Here's where I take a step back. Here's where I'm the man that's going to take the last shot. What was that like, especially in that first season as you guys were all kind of figuring out what's going on?
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I would have said some very mean stuff.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Is there one play or one game in particular that shows the evolution? Like year two, this is how, this is when we knew we had it figured out. Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I don't think that you can make the case that you might get a friendlier whistle at home because I believe that tonight the foul shooting even favored the Timberwolves.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
As a Bulls fan, as a lifelong Michael Jordan fan, you've said on the record many times, Michael Jordan's your goat. He's the best. Did you have to lie to LeBron about that when he was in Miami? You're like, I don't know. I guess we'll find out. You're still playing.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It doesn't mean anything. It's something that we talk about in media. That's something you talk about in the middle of the summer too.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
No, they're very fun. Watch, let's have it right now. Ask me who my GOAT is. Who's your GOAT? Michael Jordan. Why? Championship rings. That's it?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Never went to a game seven in the finals. That's it.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
No, that was actually a good question. Very smart questions.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I like that you called attention to it though. Yeah, you quote treated it. So we're making fake quotes up now?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
You're eating dinner at a table.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
And then is there an emcee?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
So it's just, there's a band that's playing during dinner?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Do you think Fizdell needs to have a conversation with Luka? Whoa. Maybe get Luka on some salads. Fizdale is in Phoenix. Yeah, but he should talk to Luka. Why?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
He'll be great. I think he'll be great.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, sure. Yeah, he looks good.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
If he walked in here, I'd cross him up.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I think the people love him. Yeah, he got a standing ovation tonight. He has to know when he says stuff like that. It's a little bit tongue-in-cheek, right? I don't know.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
yeah yeah on that final four run did you have did you at that moment have the confidence in yourself and the belief that you were going to go on to do all these great things or was it that moment that kind of woke you up and you're like yeah I can I can be one of the best no you know what man I didn't think that way like I mean I I knew I was good at what I was good at but I always you know just had the mentality that like
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
So you weren't thinking at that moment, like one day, 15, 20 years in the future, I'm going to have a really, really weird looking statue of myself built.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Is that okay? So when they unveiled the statue, what was your initial thought?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah. Great statue.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Technically, it's a statue. It goes back to us looking at Luke and being like, wow, that guy's out of shape. We're like, look how bad that guy's statue is. The guy that got a statue for being great for so long.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
If he was, like, a folk hero. Yeah. Like, back in the day. Like, yeah, Kendrick Perk.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Big Perk. Men used to cry instead of going to the lane against Big Perk.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It's intense.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, it is very cool though. It's an awesome honor to have a statue, to know that you meant so much to one organization, one city really. That they're like, we want you to stand here for forever.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I think you also might have misquoted him a little bit because you didn't say carry the hell on.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Did they say who tied?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
They didn't say the time.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I got a question about the Thunder and their roster. Guy for guy, if you put them up against the Boston Celtics, why would you do that? They're not in the playoffs. Who are we taking here?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Okay, so counterpoint. I don't hate the take, but last year I would say he also had the sauce. Did he just get the sauce this offseason?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Something that reminds me a little bit of your game, he seems to be the type of rare player that when he's playing in front of an opposing audience, when he's on the road, he feeds off the crowd just as much on the road as he does at home. He brings his confidence to them. He brings it to the game where he hears everybody booing, hears everybody yelling at him, screaming, and he elevates his game.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
He's like, I want to shut them up.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Just as bad as he wants to make the fans at home cheer.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
He's a very fun player. I got one more question for you. I think it's more of a statement. You might be a magician or a witch because of your pump fake. Are you aware of how good your pump fake was when you were a player?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
And you would do it constantly from the three point line and people guarded you. I think there's a stat out there that shows that people guarded you closer than any other player in the NBA from the three point arc. When they were playing defense. Now, I'm not bringing this up to trash your three-point percentage, but it was like 29% career, which it's not a great three-point percentage.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
But they guarded you so close on the perimeter, like they expected you to make it.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Was it just like no matter where he is on the court, we're going to guard him as closely as possible?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, and the pump fake was great too.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
So how do you steal a pump fake from somebody?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Would you talk shit to people if they jump? If you're like, got him?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, and you got to let them know, too, if they jump and you drive past them.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, you could make the case that this might be the worst Thunder team that we're going to see in the next five years.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Imagine what they're going to do.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
This is like, if you look at it, this is an off year for the Thunder.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
That's awesome.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
And he coached Ant, too. Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
And the fact that they're doing this is super important.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah. And listen. I like the Thunder. I think they're a great team. I think that they're entertained. I love Caruso. I think you feel the same way.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
People 100 years from now, when they're looking you up online and their brain chip that they got or whatever, they might misspell it.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Max, you think it's bad because it's the armpit plus his breath? I don't know.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, but I think that if we do nitpick at SGA, it's because there's literally... Our only complaint about the Thunder is that your star player is too good at gaming the rules. Yeah. And you're mowing everybody. Like, I might be an SGA theist. Yes, I am. But that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate Alex Caruso.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
What's the worst thing you guys have ever smelled? Maybe that.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
You know what it is? It's the hot trash. Yeah. The hot trash of New York is the worst.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Wait, wait, Oli. Let me get a hit. Oh, no. Oh, no. Let me take a hit. Let me take a hit. I got to smell this. Oh, I got to smell this.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It's just a combination of all the different odors.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Great White North.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Oh, yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, that's the one. The one where it's in the middle of the room.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Your body just expressed itself?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Something happened. The smell is hot. Yogurt.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I mute every single one of the aggregators because they tag us in all their shit. And then you get the dumbest replies ever and the dumbest arguments that last for weeks sometimes.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
He was just wearing different shorts. Yeah. Jaden Daniels is looking different at training camp. What do you notice? And then it devolved into a big conversation in the section that gets into like Brock Purdy at some point. Yeah. Just meet that whole conversation.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
So the only thing is you're just too trusting, I think.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
If it was real, it would have been awesome.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I think we have to just fast-forward the entire conversation and say, are the Thunder bad for basketball?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
All right, PFT. My Fire Fest of the Week is that I officially felt old as fuck, like middle age last week. Because I got a power washer on Saturday. I went out to Home Depot, picked up. I rented one about a year ago, and I got it, and it was awesome. And the guy was talking shit to me. He's like, you never used one of these before. I don't know if you can handle it.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I was like, dude, I'll handle it. No problem. I got this. And I did it and it was awesome. And then I said, I'm going to buy one of these things. I'm going to get one of these things. So last Saturday, went to Home Depot, picked one up, brought it home. I'm addicted to it. Yeah. You just start finding shit around. I could power wash you, oldie. That might work.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
So that's really where the Fyre Fest comes in.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, I put a video out because I wanted to piss people off. So I did a video of me power washing my patio, and I intentionally missed a spot so that people would be like, what the fuck, dude? You missed a spot. Some people were mad about that, but then I didn't realize that I stumbled into a deep, deep hole online that I was not aware of, and that's power washing Twitter.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
And they were like, dude, you have an electric power washer? I would hide that thing when my friends come over. Yeah. Dude, that's the gayest thing that I've ever seen in my life. And now I'm like, I got to go back and get a gas-powered one.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I got 2,000 PSI on it. I thought that's pretty good.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
If it was gas, he's like, yeah, fire me up. Well, I also didn't have it on the most powerful stream on.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Maybe sometimes, but it has different streams. I got the different nozzles to it. And one of them is like zero degree.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It's the most satisfying thing in the world to power wash something. To clean.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It's awesome. It is actually like the coolest tool I've ever used in my life. I'm just finding stuff around my house. I'm like, I should power wash that. I should power wash it. When it rained the other day, I was pissed off. I was like, I can't power wash in the rain. It sucks. But I was talking to some of the boys at the office about it, and they had a pretty good idea.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Just get a bunch of fruit and play real life Fruit Ninja. Oh, I love that. With a power washer. Just throw shit up in the air and try to saw through it with the water.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah. I could circumcise biz. Yeah. Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I'll circumcise him a power washer, yeah. Oh, that's clean, too. Straight line. I like that. Yeah, cauterize it. Hot water.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It pays for itself.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Well, you're not, like, getting any return. Let me explain.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Let me explain. It pays for itself, dude. Let me explain how this is going to make money. In about four years' time, when Brandon Walker's contract comes up, and he's getting offers from Fox Sports and ESPN and Call Her Daddy to leave and join them, they're offering maybe twice as much, but we're like, Brandon, we still got the ice cream machine. He's like, God damn it, I got to stay.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I just love this place so goddamn much.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Yeah, it's bad. So wait, the only thing staying between us and Listeria is exactly who? Jacob and Zach. Okay.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Once a month. Yeah. It's like you're up and you do the.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Once a month.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
morning night i can guarantee you that there's gonna be several times where at lunch i'm like oh shit i didn't bring a lunch i don't really feel like ordering i'm just gonna eat ice cream sundays are gonna be a joke oh man i'm gonna eat so you may have seven on sunday i'm gonna eat so much ice cream on football so we're gonna have to do bets of like every time your team gets scored on oh eat a cone oh yeah so excited it's gonna be great yeah it's gonna be so great
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Do you know why the McDonald's ice cream machines are never up?
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
It's like printers. You always have to call in like Pitney Bowes or some shit to come fix your printer.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Oh, so it's back.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Okay.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I'm excited. Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I might eat more in the winter. I might too.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I was going to say because it doesn't make you cold.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Strike that from the no, because I think they're like worth it. Yeah, that's probably other stuff. Yeah.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
I think that people that are on their deathbed that have heart trouble, they're like, I wish I hadn't smoked those cigarettes. I know they probably like those cigarettes.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
More. There you go.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
What if we got the Choco Taco shells and we did Taco Tuesdays? We could do that.
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Dwyane Wade In Studio, Pacers Insane Comeback At MSG, The Thunder Are A Wagon, Remembering Jim Irsay + Fyre Fest With Oldie
Shane looked like a dad that thought he smelled weed. Usually.
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Don't do that because it turns out you'll be diagnosed with ADHD again.
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Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
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She has a nanny. Yeah, a full-time nanny.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
TikTok Star Gets Arrested - The DigitalPrincxss story
Hi guys, I just wanted to come on here and say that I do see your comments, I do see your concerns, and I know there's a lot of things being posted online that are very out of context and very much untrue, so please do not believe everything that you will read on the internet.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
TikTok Star Gets Arrested - The DigitalPrincxss story
People online feel like they are entitled to know everything about my life because I have a platform and they think that they can demand answers from me about my life that has nothing to do with them. People online want to act like they know everything about my life when in reality you only get to see 15 to 60 second clips of my life.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie
Vormachen, mitmachen, stark machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie
Wahr machen, möglich machen, schön machen, Freude machen, Sinn machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie
Pause machen? Können wir. Klart machen, ganz machen, neu machen, Mut machen, gut machen, besser machen.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The OnlyFans Murder - The Story of Fake Barbie
Und Karriere machen.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The Man Who Got Amnesia For 14 Years - The Jim McDonnell story
Losmachen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The Man Who Got Amnesia For 14 Years - The Jim McDonnell story
Und Karriere machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The Man Who Got Amnesia For 14 Years - The Jim McDonnell story
Vormachen, mitmachen, stark machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The Man Who Got Amnesia For 14 Years - The Jim McDonnell story
Wahr machen, möglich machen, schön machen, Freude machen, Sinn machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
The Man Who Got Amnesia For 14 Years - The Jim McDonnell story
Pause machen? Können wir. Platt machen, ganz machen, neu machen, Mut machen, gut machen, besser machen?
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How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Losmachen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Vormachen, mitmachen, stark machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Können wir.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Bad to kill. Gunned to kill. And you don't have to be a gun.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Wahr machen, möglich machen, schön machen, Freude machen, Sinn machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Können wir.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Pause machen? Können wir. Platt machen, ganz machen, neu machen, Mut machen, gut machen, besser machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Und hier bei Pixar bekommt Brad noch einmal die Chance, einen animierten Klassiker zu machen.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Können wir.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Und Karriere machen?
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
How Did This Murder Lead To The Incredibles? - The Brad Bird story
Na klar, können wir. Was du aus deiner Zukunft auch machst. Wir können alles, was kommt. Das Handwerk.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
He Was Eaten By His Own Pet Tiger On Stage - The Siegfried & Roy story
I know when you look at a tiger, you're like, oh, he's so cute. I want to hug the kitty. He's such a good kitty.
Ray William Johnson: True Story Podcast
He Was Eaten By His Own Pet Tiger On Stage - The Siegfried & Roy story
When I hug the kitty, he's such a good kitty!
Rotten Mango
100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
Right, so one egg donation is 46 that they pay, but they get multiple eggs.
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
Wait, what do you mean they're there illegally?
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
Yeah, but they're doing something else, right?
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
Yeah, and then selling it to...
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
What does rare ethnicity mean?
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
This is like... This is challenging so many weird social... Yes.
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
But also I feel like if that one was found, wouldn't there be more of these facilities?
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
I feel like this is the surface, surface, surface of this whole thing. I don't know.
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
This is in the college?
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100 Women Kept as Slaves in “Human Egg Farm” For Egg Harvesting
Right. But they're going to have multiple?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
The top playboys.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
What? When was this?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
So they flew back February 5th. And on the 7th, a person from the same building made that post?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
That is crazy.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Fated love?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
No marriage, right?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Right.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Hmm. Oh.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Is he married again? Yes.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Right.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, that's weird.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah. Yeah. Especially they have had a crazy messy divorce.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
And the things that he said in the past.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Sure.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Wait, they're still on the beach right now?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
So this is all shared later by... Yeah, people that were there. Okay.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
What?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
So the mom said that Wanda group, which is Wonsetong family, helped to pay the hotel stay.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
And Wonsetong came out and said, what are you talking about? I don't even know you.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
What's interesting is it's not even like a bad thing. She didn't bad mouth them. No. Okay. It sounded like the mother wants to seem like she's very close to the Wanda family. And Wonsetong's like, who are you? I don't know you. Stop bringing up our names.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Okay, so they're already in the midst of this emergency situation.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, it's like the hype of that show in that moment, you can- So good. It took over the world.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, it's like a top celebrity, top influencer's brand, for example.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
This was like 20 years ago, you're saying? Or 10, 20 years ago?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
What happened?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Whoa.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
It's like an emotional little teenager.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Who can't regulate their own emotions.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Like everything is like, he just blurs out whatever.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, exactly.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, I remember how this was. It feels like it was messy, but then you look into it, you're like, what did she exactly do? It's all just allegations and yeah.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
What?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
It's like mother, like son. Yes. Both of them are so petty and so immature and just nasty.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Wow.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
The context is, in Chinese words, soft rice is usually to describe a husband or a boyfriend that's relying on their partner to earn money. So they're basically going at DJ Koo, basically.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
See, then he's using her likeness.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Likeness, right. To profit him.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
She should absolutely have it. If you said this is... You know what I mean? Now it just seems more so like you're a loser. You just slap yourself on the face for that.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Oh my gosh. Wow.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
What?
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
That is freaking crazy.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
So I remember seeing that clip, and I was really confused what happened between the mother and son. So it sounded like the mother liked the post, implying that their family paid for it, and the son's enjoying all these positive publicity. And then as soon as people turned, he was like, okay, how are we going to overcome this? Mom, you take the fall.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
I'm going to yell at you so everybody knows that you did this without me knowing. Yes. But you also was there the whole time. You knew what's going on and you didn't say anything. So, you know.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Uh-huh. Wow.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Like, even the video of him walking in the rain, like, from the beginning. Like, just, like, rolling on the ground. Everyone was like, this is, like, straight out of a K-drama.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
You're so sick.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Oh, my God. That is crazy.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
I've actually followed this a little bit. Not like today, like the way you explained it. But I saw like bits and pieces from different news channels. And there are this like some small voice out there that's hating on Big S. And I'm always wondering where do they get this information from? It seems like the husband, the ex-husband, and the mom...
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Like they literally say some crazy ass shit and they're just people out there that just wants to hate. They're just ready to say, no, she must done these certain things. And then they will spin around and spread more rumors and just hate on Big S and these people around her.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
yeah it's just so sad to see yeah and the the mom and son duo is like constantly online talking crazy stuff and and the big little s and dj ku and their whole family is like they're quiet because they're mourning and even after a divorce they're all taking the high road versus these two just keep running their mouth
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
it's just so sick you know and they don't want to lower to their level and just start another online battle of like who's right or wrong so they just keep running their mouth and ruining her name and image yeah and it's it's bad because i feel like the people who take the high road always lose a little because it's like they're in the right they just don't want to be vile and disgusting
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
It's so sad because if that's her behavior, if she's willing to go that low, imagine their whole marriage, how suffocating it was.
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A-List Actress Passed - Billionaire Ex-Husband & Mom Exposed For Abuse & Won’t Stop Spreading Lies
Yeah, it's not even about the money. It's truly just how nasty they are.
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I think so, yeah.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Also hat Dateline diesen Szenario hergestellt, um zu zeigen, dass typische Serialkiller die Wälder testen werden, bevor sie etwas Drastisches machen. Sie gehen von Cyber-Stalking bis zum Piepen in Wänden, dann eskaliert es bis zu vielleicht mehr physischer Stalking. Also könnte das der Fall für Brian gewesen sein? Possibly.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So that kind of then leads us into the timeline of events that Dateline covered. And it seems to me at least like they were trying to establish or at the very least speculate that the murders were premeditated in some way, shape or form.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Now, a lot of this timeline has to do with what was recovered from Brian's phone, because starting in July, his phone pinged at the cell tower closest to the house on King Road. Dann, am 16. August, hat er einen Google-Search über Ted Bundy gemacht. Und das ist, wie es scheint, der Anfang einer fast Obsession mit Ted Bundy.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Denn nachdem er ihn gegoogelt hat, googelt er auch ein Papier, das von einem Professor über Bundy geschrieben wurde, namens Ted Bundy auf das malignante Wesen. Eine Analyse auf den justizierbaren Diskurs eines Serialkilleres.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
In diesem Fall, der damals unter einer sehr strengen Gag-Vorschrift war, werden diese Prätrial-Motionen verabschiedet. Dadurch bekommen wir ein wenig Aufmerksamkeit über einige der Beweise, die sie vorstellen werden, einige der Argumente, Alibis und Testimonien, die sie verwenden werden.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Nun, wir wissen auch, dass er Kriminalität studiert hat, also vielleicht war dieses Buch für die Schule, vielleicht war es persönlicher Interesse, wir wissen es nicht wirklich. Aber was wir wissen, ist, dass er das Buch gedownloadet hat, ohne Zweifel, um es vollständig lesen und studieren zu können.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
And like I said, this was just the beginning of many different videos and searches on his devices regarding Ted Bundy. And we also know, just going back a little bit too, there was other things early on in this investigation that were released that indicated he did have some sort of, not obsession with serial killers, but... Curiosity, maybe that's the word. And a lot of people do, right?
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
I'm sure a lot of people watching this have been curious about Dahmer, Bundy, whomever it is. That doesn't necessarily make you a murderer. Certainly not. But coupled with other things that could show a pattern of escalation, maybe it is concerning. So, in the months leading up to the murders, Brian's phone also showed some very interesting Google searches that are...
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Pretty pornographic in nature. And the thing with Brian's searches was that he had a very niche type of porn that he was interested in. He used specific words such as forced, passed out, drugged, asleep, and those are just to name a few of them. Now, again, is that indicative of somebody being a murderer? Certainly not. Everybody is into their own kinks, their own things.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
But you couple that with other things. Forced, passed out, drugged, just harsh sexual material. Harsh for some, not all, I guess. Does it illustrate something more? Now, around this same timeline in September is when the apartment was broken into. And on September 30th, Brian googled »Sociopathic Traits in College Students«.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Again, maybe it was part of a homework assignment, or maybe he was trying to self-diagnose. And the reason I say that is because maybe he was curious about the symptoms, but we also know from when he was young, way back in his childhood, he did publicly post on different forms, public forms, about issues that he was struggling with, mental health issues even.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So could he be trying to say, like, my sociopath? Let me google it. Sociopathic tendencies or sociopathic symptoms in college male, like, concerning. Then, within the first two weeks in October, Brian's phone pinged three separate times at that cell tower that is closest to the King Road house.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So experts and honestly, just your average Joe, are speculating that in these times, Brian was likely studying the area. Studying the house, casing the area, and checking things out, almost building a plan. Which if that's the case, then it seems like he may have already known his target. Which we'll get into more here shortly. So let's talk about the victims for a moment.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Und so haben wir ein bisschen mehr Informationen zusammengefasst, wie zum Beispiel der 911-Anruf, der veröffentlicht wurde, die Texttranskripte, andere solche Dinge, die Amazon-Historie, ich meine, du nennst es. Zusätzlich, am Freitag, am 9. Mai, hat Dateline ein neues Video auf dem Fall veröffentlicht.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Because these victims were young. They were in college. They were on social media. And they were always on TikTok. All the time. You can see in video after video, just like, curtains are open at night. It's a party house. People are coming and going. So it's not a crazy assumption to guess that he would kind of just watch through the window and look and get an idea of the layout of the house.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Who was inside? What were people's routines? What were their comings and goings and patterns? Things like that. Then fast forward a little bit and on October 9th, more porn Google searches again. Forced, drugged, those are the keywords. Then on October 19th, Brian googled, can sociopaths behave pro-socially?
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
And I think that this search is very, very interesting because pro-socially basically means acting as though you're empathetic, you're helping somebody, there's kindness that you're exuding, that you're being nice to them, you know, helping them. So for him to Google, can sociopaths behave pro-socially, that with the other Google search of sociopathic symptoms in a college male, it makes me think,
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Er versucht, sich selbst zu diagnostizieren. Er will die Symptome kennen. Dann sagt er, okay, kann ein Soziopath so aussehen, als wäre er kind? Kann er so aussehen, als würde er jemandem helfen? Weil, wenn ich kind bin und jemandem helfe, bin ich wirklich ein Soziopath? Und das ist nur meine Meinung. Das ist, was ich von diesen Suchen bekomme. Ich könnte sehr weit weg sein.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Vielleicht war er nur wieder für Arbeit oder Schule interessiert. Wer weiß. Aber ich denke, dass es eine sehr spezifische und eine sehr interessante Suche ist. Then, over the span of 13 days, he googled his own name multiple times. Just Brian Koberger. Just seeing what results it yielded. Just seeing what would come up. What's easily accessible. I don't know.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
And I will say, it's one thing to look up your name one time. I feel like we've all probably done it just to see, you know, what does come up. But multiple times, over an almost two-week period... That feels kind of odd, almost like he's looking for something specific or looking to see if he's hidden. I don't know. So then we move on to November, the month of the murders.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
And on November 2nd, he had a meeting with some school officials to go over what they were describing as an improvement plan for Brian, for him as a TA. Like I said, people didn't like him. They felt he pretty much singled out women, that he graded papers harshly and that he just was not good at that role.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Was dieses entsprechende Gespräch trug, scheint vielleicht eine andere rote Flagge zu sein, wenn man sich zurückblickt. Offensichtlich hat Brian einen der Mädchen aus ihrem Auto gefolgt und dann in irgendeiner Art und Weise mit ihr konfrontiert. Worüber? Wir wissen es nicht. Ich würde feststellen, dass es etwas mit seiner Lehrerschaft zu tun hatte.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Und ich muss sagen, sie haben wirklich ihre Recherche gemacht und ihre Zeit gebraucht, wenn sie dieses Video erschaffen haben. Denn sie haben versprochen, dass sie nichts Neues, niemals vorher gesehen haben, und sie waren nicht lügen. Nun, der Video ist etwa eine Stunde und eine halbe lang, aber ich empfehle es sehr, ihn auszuschauen. Aber für jetzt möchte ich über die größten Ansätze gehen.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Vielleicht ein Unterricht, vielleicht ein falsches Grad, ich weiß es nicht genau. But what I do know is, good for her, she immediately reported it and reported him. I'm not sure if other people had maybe also reported him for giving women bad grades or if maybe that was just more town gossip, I don't know. But there was at least one report made against him.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So then, fast forward a little bit more, and on October 7th, Brian's phone yet again pinged off the cell tower near King Road, near the King Road house specifically. And this was the 23rd time that it had pinged off of that tower, within a very pretty short time window as well, 4 months to be exact. 4 months, 23 pings, that's a lot for somewhere that you don't live nearby.
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So now I want to get into the days leading up to the murders. Because on November 10th, Brian completely stopped using his debit card. On the 11th, we know that he made an attempt to do what the legal documents refer to as anti-forensic methods to clear evidence from his school computer. Und das ist ein direkter Quote, okay?
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Und ich denke, dass dieser Detail ziemlich wichtig war, weil es fast so ist, als ob er wusste, dass er zu viele Tracks hinterlassen würde. Und das schreit auch für mich Prämeditation. Warum versuchst du forensisch, deinen Computer zu wecken? Das fühlt sich nicht sehr normal an. Ich weiß nicht, nicht konkret schuldig, aber sicherlich fragwürdig.
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All right, so you know those like chaotic mornings where nobody wants to eat the breakfast that you've made, you're late getting out the door to school, suddenly you realize you haven't eaten either, and it's just like chaos. I mean, welcome to my daily life, my friends. And that is why Kachava has totally become my go-to, because it's a complete meal replacement that actually tastes good.
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And listen, I'm not just using it for myself anymore. I've also started giving it to my kids, and I give it to them, you know, I say, hey, here's your milkshake, here, Emi, here's your strawberry milkshake, which she just like,
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bananas over and they have no idea that it is packed with over 85 superfoods that is what i call a mom win my friend a mom win and i'll even throw in the chocolate cachava into their smoothies sometimes i'll scoop like the coconut one or the vanilla one and put it into the pancake batter and like mix it up with the pancakes before i cook them those on the weekends and it just quickly makes this bland maybe not so nutritious breakfast perfect nutrient dense and no complaints
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Das ist für meine Kinder. Für mich ist es mein Go-To, wenn ich nicht Zeit für den Abend habe. Ich blende es mit Milch, manchmal Wasser, wenn ich mich fühle, dass ich schnell gehen muss. Wenn ich mich fühle, dass ich extra Zeit habe, um fernzuhalten, gebe ich ein paar Beeren rein, vielleicht sogar eine Schuppe Pfeffer. Aber ich bin gut für Stunden.
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Es füllt mich up, es gibt mir Energie und ich bekomme nicht den schluggigen Crash, den ich normalerweise bekomme, wenn ich die Fastfood-Spots oder DoorDash oder etwas wie das erhalte. Und im Vergleich zu all den anderen Pfeffern, die ich probiert habe, ist Cachava leichter, leckerer und einfach viel mehr balanceiert.
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Es sind 25 Gramm plantbasierter Protein, 26 Vitaminen und Mineralien und 6 Gramm Fiber in jedem Shake. Kein Artifizierter Leck, kein Pfeffer, kein Gluten, nur echtes Essen, das dich voll und fokussiert hält. Und hier ist das Ding. Du musst kein Veganer sein oder in den ganzen Superfood-Movement lieben, um es zu lieben.
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Ich möchte auch über einige der Theorien sprechen, über die neuen Zeitlinien, die entdeckt worden sind. Ich möchte einfach über alles sprechen. Also, wenn das etwas ist, worauf du interessiert bist, bist du im richtigen Ort und wir werden genau dazugehen. Wie gesagt, war diese Episode etwa eine Stunde und eine halbe lang und sie war voll mit Informationen.
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So by now, I think we're all pretty familiar with the movements the roommates had on the night of the 12th and the early morning hours of the 13th. We've gone over that information ad nauseum. I mean, the food truck, going out, being back home.
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And if you're not familiar with that information for any reason, if you're not caught up, definitely check out some of my other videos where I've covered the entire case, the full timeline, all of that. But my point is that even though Dateline briefly went over where each of the roommates were that night, as well as when they got home, the main focus was on Brian.
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And this is where things get pretty crazy. And I have to just clarify, this is all just a major running theory. But what I'm about to share is what the investigators and other experts believe to be exactly what Brian did that night. So in the early morning hours of November 13th at 2.56 a.m., Brian turns off his phone. Then we're shown never before seen footage from the neighbor's security camera.
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And this footage caught Brian's car continuously going around the block, lurking, potentially even gaining up the courage to allegedly do what he was going to do starting at 3.36 a.m. And we had also heard about this in previous filings, right?
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That the car was seen, that it was like going in and out through the neighborhood on like only the outskirts where somebody who knew the area well would know, so it wasn't any main roads. And this is very much a reflection of that. So at 3.33 a.m. the car was seen going around the block again. Then again at 3.38 a.m., 3.40 a.m., 3.56 a.m., 3.58 a.m. and at 4.06 a.m.
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the white car is seen going west, doing a U-turn, then going back toward the house. And then finally at 4.07 a.m. the car drives by one last time. Nun, das ist, als die Anwesenden glauben, dass Brian sein Auto parkiert hat, wahrscheinlich ein paar Blöcke entfernt oder zumindest außer Auge, und dann in den 1122 King Road auf dem Fuß ging.
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Nun, ich weiß, dass es viel Kontroversie gibt, dass das Haus vor Brian's Trial zerstört wurde. Die Leute sind schockiert, dass es das Trial verursachen wird und dass der Jurist einen Walkthrough machen sollte. Und obwohl ich diese Gefühle verstehe und sie definitiv valid sind, Ich möchte sagen, dass diese Episode einen animierten Mock-Up des Hauses enthalten hatte, der ziemlich genau war.
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So I want to break this down into a couple of parts. First, we can briefly go over some of the new faces that we saw interviewed in this episode. Because these people who spoke were kind of, I think, interviewed a lot for the shock factor and to build on Brian's odd behaviors and his character pre-murders. Denn es war nicht jemand, der direkt mit dem Fall verbunden war.
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Und ich war nie zu einem Punkt verwirrt wie, wo passiert das jetzt? Was waren seine Bewegungen? Wie wurde diese Person auf die Stiefel gestiegen und all das? Sind wir auf der dritten Flur, der zweiten Flur? Du kannst alles sehr klar sehen. Ich denke, es ist sehr gut gemacht. Und es gibt mir Hoffnung, dass etwas Ähnliches während der Trial für die Juristen benutzt werden kann.
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Und wie gesagt, diese nächsten wenigen Details sind verurteilt und sie sind nur Theorien. Aber die Bewerber glauben, dass Brian durch die geschlossene Tür auf der zweiten Flur des Hauses ging, die gerade dort in der Küche war. Und obwohl es die zweite Flur ist, ist es im Grunde die Entry-Level. Es ist level mit dem Boden.
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Also es ist nicht so, als ob er auf Stiefeln oder Wäldern oder so etwas aufstehen musste. Letztendlich einfach auf dem Boden, direkt rein. Dann, als er drinnen war, ging er bis auf den dritten Flur, in Maddys Zimmer, der nur einen Stuhl hoch ist, weil, wiederum, der zweite Flur ist das Bodenlevel.
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Das ist der Grund, warum die Befragten glauben, dass Maddy immer sein gewolltes Ziel war und dass alle anderen leider nur kollaterales Schaden waren. Und ich habe meine Theorie seit Tag 1 sehr bekannt gemacht, weit vor dem Stateline-Episode, weit bevor diese Informationen in den letzten Monaten angefangen haben, aber ich habe immer geglaubt, dass Maddy das Ziel war.
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Und dass der Grund, warum Kaylee gestorben ist, ist, weil sie nicht da sein sollte. Sie war nicht da, um neben Maddie zu schlafen. Dass sein Rage, sein Tötung, allgemein Brian, war direkt an Maddie. Und dass, als er Kaylee da sah, er so verrückt wurde, weil sie seinen Plan zerstört hatte. Ich glaube, besonders nach den pornografischen Suchen auf seinem Telefon,
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I believe that there was intention to sexually assault Maddie personally. He didn't, but I do believe that was what the plan was. I believe he was going to sexually assault her and potentially kill her. And then when Kaylee was there next to her, it caught him off guard and he was pissed because here Kaylee was ruining his plan. So he of course had to kill her.
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Und ich glaube auch, dass er, nachdem er damit fertig war, runtergegangen ist. Und weil wir wissen, dass Zanna auf TikTok war, dass sie vielleicht oder vielleicht nicht den Doordash von Jack in the Box und all das bestellt hat, dass er sie entweder gehört hat oder sie gesehen hat, sie getötet hat. Ethan intervenierte oder war nahe und hatte keine Wahl, ihn auch zu töten.
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And if you've ever watched any of my last videos over the last year and a half, two years even, I said I think that's why he bypassed Dylan, the surviving roommate, because he really had no intention of killing four people that night. He was physically exhausted and that although the adrenaline got him through it,
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His body was tired and he was tired, so that's why he just walked past Dylan, not even looking at her. Just gotta get out, gotta get out. Just tunnel vision as to escaping. So now in this Dateline episode, we are getting some more clarity into that. And while I was dead on in some regards, the piece with Zanna and where her exact whereabouts were, not as accurate. Pretty accurate, but not exactly.
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So let me go back a little bit. So the investigators believe that Maddie was the target, as I mentioned. Und sie glauben, dass er überrascht war, als er in Maddys Zimmer ging und beide sie und Kaylee da saßt. Und dieses nächste Teil ist wirklich, wirklich schwierig zu denken und zu vorstellen. Ich verstehe das. Aber wir wissen, dass Zanna wach war.
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Wie ich gesagt habe, war sie auf TikTok nicht zu lange vor den Mördern und sie hatte gerade das DoorDash bestellt. So the investigators believe that Zanna heard all of the commotion that was going on upstairs in Maddies room. That she may have even been in the kitchen at this point, not in the bedroom.
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Es waren keine Mitglieder der Gefühlsfamilie oder so etwas, sondern Leute, die durch Proxy verbunden waren, wenn das Sinn macht. Also möchte ich über sie sprechen. Dann möchte ich über die Zeitung gehen, weil dies auf jeden Fall eines der größten Hinweise von diesem Episode war, zumindest für mich.
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That she heard the cries, the barks, the loud thumps and that it would have been very concerning for her. So that because of that, Sie ging nach oben auf den dritten Flur, wo Maddys Zimmer war, damit sie sehen konnte, was passiert war, um sicherzustellen, dass alles okay war.
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Nun, wir wissen nicht sicher, ob Brian oder wer auch immer der Mörder war, Maddys Tür hinter ihm geschlossen hat, aber basierend auf dem, was die Bewerber denken, ist es eindeutig. Because they think that Zanna went upstairs and that when she got to Maddie's bedroom door, she very likely saw both of her friends bleeding out, if not already dead.
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With Brian just standing right there on top of them, dressed in all black and holding a knife. So they say Zanna likely sprinted down the stairs in an attempt to make it to her door to lock the bedroom door. But you also have to remember that these kids had been drinking. They had been drinking pretty much all day.
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So the fact that she was able to even react fast enough to get down the stairs without falling is a huge accomplishment in and of itself and beyond me. But as they believe, sadly, they think that she only made it to her bedroom door before Brian caught up with her. And as we all know, at that point, based on her injuries and her defensive wounds, she did put up a hell of a fight.
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Ihre Verletzungen, besonders die Verletzungen an ihren Fingern, waren extensiv. Sie versuchte ihr Bestes, es aus dieser Erfahrung lebendig zu machen, es alles zu geben, und so viel so, dass einige ihrer Fingern bemerkt wurden, nicht voll detailliert, aber fast detailliert. Und wie wir natürlich wissen, leider war sie nicht erfolgreich und sie ist zu ihren Verletzungen gerettet.
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Nun, Ethan, der auf Xanas Bett gefunden wurde, war wahrscheinlich schlafen, als all das zuerst stattfand. Und ihr müsst euch auch daran erinnern, dass es alles so schnell passiert ist. Auch wenn er sich auf Xanas Schreie oder ihre Schreie für Hilfe erworben hat und er besorgt war, gab es nirgendwo, wo er gehen oder fliehen könnte. And to be fair, I'm not even sure if he was awake.
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The episode detailed that Ethan did not seem to put up much of a fight. And that based on blood spatter analysis, Brian only had to stab him one time to kill him because it hit a major artery. Again, whether or not there didn't seem to be a fight because he was still asleep or still drunk, still passed out, or because that initial knife wound hit the major artery and killed him, we don't know.
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Aber das wirklich schreckliche Ding ist, dass auch nachdem beide Zanna und Ethan tot waren, Brian seinen Zeitraum mit Ethan genommen hat. Er hat angefangen, das ist eine direkte Worte, nicht meine Worte, er hat angefangen, seine unteren Beine zu fressen. Was er genau gefressen hat, wissen wir nicht. Aber ich denke, dass sich das auch zurückzieht zu Kayleigh, die im Raum war.
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Und es fokussiert wirklich auf die Bewegungen, die zu den Mördern geführt haben, die Mörder selbst, wer möglicherweise der Ziel war. und etwas mehr über das Thema. Und ich möchte auch über Theorien sprechen, weil, wie Sie sich vorstellen können, jetzt mit dieser neuen Information, kommen mehr Theorien heraus, mehr Spekulationen, die Puzzle-Spiele werden zusammengesetzt.
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Ich denke, er war wütend an Ethan. Ich denke, er war wütend, dass er den Plan verletzt hat. Und noch mehr, um es einen Schritt weiter zu nehmen, und das ist nur meine Meinung, basierend auf dem, was wir wissen und auf Informationen aus seinem Track-Rekord. I think that Brian hated women. And I think he hated men who had the opportunity to be with women.
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Another word for that, that you may call it, is an incel. And I did a video on this with Elliot Rogers, who was an infamous incel who went on a killing spree. Die Vergleiche zwischen ihm und Brian Coburger und dem, was ich dachte.
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Und basierend auf Brians Geschichte mit allgemein, dass er Frauen zu hart verurteilt hat, dass er Frauen hasst, dass er sie verurteilt hat, dass er sie verurteilt hat, dass er sie verurteilt hat, And I also think that's why he was targeting a woman, but I think he also hated men, especially men who were with a woman the way he wanted to be with a woman.
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So the fact that Ethan was in Xanas bedroom, I think he just fueled and hated him and that is why he quote carved his legs. I don't think there would be any other explanation for that. Why would you take your time after you've already killed somebody carving them unless you were truly trying to just...
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So dann, after all four of them were deceased, he reportedly sat down in a bedroom chair in Xanas bedroom and took a break. Just kind of looking at what he had done. Exhausted. Remember, I talked about earlier how the adrenaline overpowered him and then his body just physically starts to calm down and shut down.
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And the reason that the investigators are even able to verify that this happened is because there were imprints in blood on the chair. Which is sick.
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And I've also seen some theories out there, which I'll just mention here, that not only did he take a seat because he was tired and just kind of like absorbing what had just happened and recalibrating himself, but possibly even if he was wearing a hazmat-type suit or clothing, whatever he was wearing, to sit down and start removing everything and putting it in a bag that he brought with him to leave so that he wouldn't have blood behind him or that he wouldn't have blood transfer in his car.
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Again, that's just a theory, just speculation. But then after he got up, he decided that he was going to leave through that same sliding glass door that he came in through. And that of course is when Dylan opened her bedroom door, she wanted to see what was going on, she saw him, had a frozen blank stare at him, he walked directly by her and walked out the sliding door.
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And something I wanted to take a second to also mention really quick is that Dateline handled the situation with the surviving roommates really, really well. I mean, I have seen the most insane accusatory things about both of the girls over the years. And honestly, with all of the text messages, the call logs, the delayed 911 call, it's just gotten worse and worse and worse.
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Wie gesagt, es gab nicht ganz viele Leute, die für dieses Episode interviewt wurden. Und die Leute, die da waren, ich persönlich denke, dass sie nicht unbedingt für Schockfaktor interviewt wurden, sondern um mehr Kontext zu bringen zu Brian's Charakter, Also die erste Person, die ich kurz erwähnen möchte, ist Angela Nevaez. Sie ist die Mutter von Maddies bester Freund Ashlyn.
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And regardless what your opinion is, everybody can think that they handled or mishandled things. Sure. However, this episode touched on the fact that Dylan is very lucky that she's even alive today. I mean both Bethany and Dylan, but especially Dylan, because she saw him. And if she wouldn't have frozen in that doorway, she might have been the fifth victim. Very well could have been.
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If she had screamed, if she had yelled, you know, if she had said, like, who are you, any of it, I have no doubt in my mind that Brian would have killed her as well, just like he had to kill everybody else who he came into contact with, who was ruining his plan. Clearly he had no qualms about killing Xana when she caught him, so what would have stopped him from doing the same thing to Dylan?
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Now, with that being said, is it ideal that both of them waited so long to call 911? Natürlich nicht. Es ist nicht ideal. Aber dieses Episode beobachtete wirklich die Tatsache, dass sie beide ohne Zweifel in Schock waren und wahrscheinlich auch in einem Zustand, in dem sie sich komplett kognitiv nicht von allem unterscheiden, was dein Körper tun wird, wenn du in Kampf- oder Fliegermode gehst.
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Es ist also fast so, als ob sie in ihren Gedanken wussten, dass etwas falsch war, aber dass es allzu überwältigend war. Wie wenn sie einfach die Situation vermeiden, wäre es nicht wahr. Dass sie nicht wirklich glauben wollten, dass etwas Schreckliches passiert ist.
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Dylan hat sogar gesagt, als er in Bethanys Zimmer rannte, dass sie Xana in ihrem Schlafzimmer sah, mit ihrem Kopf an der Wand und ihren Füßen an der Tür. Ihr Gehirn hat sich erzählt, dass sie sich einfach aus dem Schlafen ausgelassen hat, aber wir wissen natürlich, dass Xanas Körper eine große Flasche Blut war, aber Dylans Gehirn hat sie nicht sogar erkannt oder gesehen.
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The brain works in so many different mysterious kinds of ways, trying to protect you, trying to protect itself. And so I think they did a good job handling that. And I also just wanted to touch on that here. I have talked with a lot of experts in the field and survivors who have told me, even when something does look like a bloodbath,
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Wenn du in diesem Moment bist, siehst du es nicht, was so blöd zu denken ist, aber das ist dein Gehirn, das wirklich versucht, sich zu schützen. Also jetzt, basierend auf dem, was die Bewerber sagen, ist ihre Theorie, dass XANA am Abend nicht gestorben wäre, Ethan hätte nicht gestorben und Kayleigh hätte nicht gestorben. But they got in the way of his plan to go after Maddie.
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And because Zanna caught Brian, allegedly of course, he panicked. Now, did she really make it all the way upstairs or did he hear her in the kitchen? I don't know. We probably will find more of those details out during the trial. And I don't know if we'll find that out just through...
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Jetzt, weil dieser Theorie ist, glauben sie, dass er, weil er in Maddys Zimmer verletzt wurde, den Schiff hinterlassen hat. Ich meine, ja, okay, vielleicht ist das ein bisschen exageriert. Es gibt viele andere Beweise gegen Brian, aber die meiste von ihnen ist verurteilt. Das ist das eine Stück DNA-Beweise, das sie haben.
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So, they're saying that because she caught him off guard, he dropped the sheath, it was under Maddie, he forgot to retrieve it, and he went and booked it and chased after her.
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Then, you know, he killed her, he killed Ethan when he saw Ethan, and then his mind probably wasn't even thinking, like, oh shit, I left the sheath upstairs, he just knew he needed to get out of the house, and it was all left behind. Which...
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Wenn man es so nachdenkt, wenn das so gelaufen ist, wenn er nicht nur in dem Moment verletzt wurde und es dort verlassen konnte, aber wenn es dann war, weil Dana ihn auf die Warte gebracht hat, dann ist sie ein Held, richtig? Weil, hätte er nicht die Schicht hinterlassen lassen, ich weiß nicht, ob die Polizei den Mann gefunden hätte, richtig?
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Vielleicht, vielleicht, ich meine, ich würde mir vorstellen, dass ihre Polizei Arbeit, sie waren auf verschiedenen Dingen, sie haben die Beobachtung, natürlich, aber das ist wie die solidare Schicht der Beweise. Ich denke, das ist ziemlich intensiv, aber auch bemerkenswert zu denken. Okay, Leute, lasst uns kurz über etwas wirkliches reden.
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Ich habe mit euch darüber gesprochen, es ist ein bisschen TMI, es ist ein bisschen persönlich, aber wisst ihr was? 88% meiner Publikation sind Frauen, also ihr werdet es. Und es ist Hormonvergleich. Ich habe euch vorher gesagt, und ich bin nicht verrückt, Leute, ich hatte so einen Hormonvergleich. Ich würde, wie mein Sexabdruck war niedrig, ich fühlte mich, als ob meine Haut trocken war.
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Ich weiß nicht, ob es Prämenopause ist, ich weiß nicht, was es ist, aber ich war so bescheiden, dass ich tatsächlich einen Pellet in meinen Nacken gesetzt habe. Okay, ich bin nicht verrückt. Ich habe es drei verschiedene Male gemacht und es hat nicht funktioniert. Es hat nichts für mich getan. Aber dann wurde ich an O-Positiv eingeladen.
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Und das ist der Grund, warum ich so viel mit ihnen darüber gesprochen habe, auch weil es mich total gemacht hat, von dem Gefühl, dass ich nicht ganz richtig bin, zu dem Gefühl, dass ich wieder mehr wie ich bin. Ob du entspannt bist, du bist verblüfft, deine Leber ist hoch, du schnappst an alle, weil du Angst hast, was auch immer es ist.
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Ich habe es gewohnt, es zu öffnen, so wie, oh, okay, ich werde älter. Ich bin, du weißt, es ist das Leben, es sind all diese anderen Variablen. Aber die Wahrheit ist, dass 80% der Frauen von Hormonverlust betroffen sind. Und die meisten von uns wissen es nicht. Also, in den letzten paar Monaten habe ich das Flow Endocrine Superfood von O-Positiv getrunken.
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Und ich werde ehrlich sein, ich war nicht sicher, dass ich eine Unterschiede bemerken werde. Ich war ein bisschen skeptisch, weil, wie der Pellet, der so viel Geld kostet und nichts für mich gemacht hat, ich dachte, vielleicht wird nichts funktionieren. Aber es hat wirklich für mich funktioniert. Flow ist ein tägliches Strawberry-Lemonade-Trink, das so gut riecht.
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Es ist mit über 30 Premium-Ingredienten verpackt. Vitamine, Mineralien, Adaptogenen, Probiotika. Und es ist wie ein Multivitamin plus Green Drink plus Hormonsupport all in one. Ich habe es jeden Morgen als Teil meiner Routine getrunken und ich fühle mich so viel stabiler.
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Angela hat kurz über Ashlyn und Maddys Beziehung gesprochen, sowie über Maddys Persönlichkeit, wer sie als Person war, ihr Leben, alles insgesamt. Ashlyn ist nicht wirklich jemand, dessen Namen wir super bekannt sind.
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Weniger dieser Cortisol-Spike, wenn ich mitten im Tag fahre, schlafe ich besser, mein Blut fühlt sich besser an, ich bin glücklicher, ich bin nicht so irritierbar. I feel like my libido is coming back, not to get TMI, but I've started mixing it into smoothies too or even just putting it in my water bottle and it is so simple.
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So then at 4.17 a.m., likely when Brian was finishing up and about to leave, the neighbor's security camera footage picked up something that we had not seen or heard until now. Because on their camera, Kayleys dog Murphy can be heard continuously barking. And the bark isn't like what happens when a stranger knocks on the door. This bark is a bark of pure panic and terror.
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Dann, um 4.20 Uhr, wird Brian's Auto gesehen, auf der Nachbars-Bereichs-Kamera-Fotografie, weg von dem Bereich. Und wenn ich sage, weg, ist es definitiv mehr eine akkurate Beschreibung, um zu sagen, dass er die Szene fliegt, weil er so schnell fährt, dass man sogar die Türen in der Videobeschreibung hören kann. And this is something that we talked about very early on.
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Aber der Grund, warum ich es sogar erwähnen wollte und warum ich dieses spezielle Interview erwähnen wollte, ist, weil Ashlyn nicht jemand ist, den wir sehr gut kennen, aber sie könnte es sehr einfach gewesen sein. You see, Ashlyn lived at King Road, at that house, not too long before the murders.
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Probably two years ago, I did a full map time where I showed you like his car going through the neighborhood or the killer's car or whatever going through the neighborhood and how they booked it and like went so fast. The whole thing. I mean, it's 13 minutes in total from when his car was last seen circling the block and when the car was seen fleeing the scene at 4.20 a.m.
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13 minutes, which it's so... Es ist schwierig zu verstehen, wie all das in weniger als 15 Minuten passieren könnte. Ich meine, vier Leben, einfach weg, verblüfft. Und ich habe so viele Leute gesehen, die sich als, oder wie andere Leute, Pro-Burgers, Leute, die denken, Brian ist ungewaltig, wird gesetzt, wird geframt. I've seen a lot of people be like, it's impossible.
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He had to have a second person or there were multiple people involved, it wasn't him. There's no way you can kill four people in 11 minutes. Because that was what the time stamp was when we talked about him coming in, going out, whatever. Allowing him a minute to come in and a minute to leave. So 11 minutes of a window. Do the math, okay? I get that it seems impossible. But do the math.
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If you have 11 minutes and you're killing four people, that gives you about, what, two and a half minutes per person. I'm not going to do the exercise here, but set a timer on your phone for two and a half minutes and take your arm and just go like this. Throw in some fighting things like this, two and a half minutes. It's a long time. That is a long time to stab someone and kill them.
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Not to mention, Ethan had the one fatal stab wound directly to the artery that would have made him bleed out and kill him. So you certainly could, with a K-Bar knife, you certainly could kill four people in ten minutes. Absolutely. It's awful to think about. I know it's uncomfortable to think about. I think it's also very uncomfortable to do that exercise. But think about that.
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And to take it a step further, just to go back to tie in like the exhaustion and him sitting in the chair, the body print and blood, all that, and then walking past Dylan thinking like, oh, I can't even see straight. I'm just going out. Even going like this for two and a half minutes is exhausting. Do that while you're fighting somebody with defensive wounds for 11 minutes.
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Du wirst ziemlich entspannt sein. Ich weiß nicht, wie viel Adrenalin über dich kommt. Aber mein Punkt, um all das aufzubauen, ist, dass es sicherlich erfolgen kann. Mit einer scharfen K-Bar-Blade, definitiv. Gegen vier Kinder, die intoxiziert sind, die, auch wenn sie wieder kämpfen, wahrscheinlich nicht sehr stark sind oder schnell genug sind, um wieder zu kämpfen. Sicher, du könntest es machen.
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So, dann, nachdem das Auto losgeht, At 4.48 a.m. Brian's phone turns back on. And this time it pinged way further away and eventually pinged back at his apartment. Which an interesting detail about his movements that morning is that at 6.17 a.m. he made a 36-minute phone call to his dad.
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She had recently graduated and she decided that she was going to move back home with her parents inside their house so she could save money, start figuring out her career moves, what she wanted to do with her life. And everyone else who lived in that house was still in college. It was full of sorority girls partying 24-7, just people in and out.
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And this was the first of three calls that he made to his dad that morning, the longest one being almost an hour long. Which apparently Dateline reached out to his family to comment on these calls, but he never responded, so they never got that comment. Now, do I think that these calls are indicative of anything?
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Do I think it's kind of like how Brian Laundrie called his parents after what he did to Gabby? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe it was just him talking to his dad. I don't know. Maybe he just felt guilty. He wanted to talk to his parents to calm the nerves. Maybe he wanted to not make an alibi, but...
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Kind of by telling them like, oh yeah, I went stargazing last night or hey, like, so they would say, oh, we talked in that morning, he sounded normal, he sounded fine. I don't know, but it is something to think about and consider. Now, we also already knew about Brian allegedly making his way back to the crime scene that morning at around 9, 12 a.m., We were unclear what that was.
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My opinion and speculation from years ago was that maybe he wanted to see if it had actually turned into a crime scene yet. Maybe he was going back to get his sheath because he noticed it was gone. Maybe he just wanted to revel in his handiwork like we know so many killers like to do. They return to the scene of the crime.
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They like to watch it all unfold almost to feel the thrill again and get off on it. And we know that his phone pinged around that house again at 9, 12 a.m. And that was also shortly before his selfie, where he's smiling with the thumbs up in the bathroom. So, was he thinking he got away with it? I can't imagine. I don't know. I don't know.
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Then there were also some things we saw with his cell phone data from that morning, where it looked as though he had turned his phone off again, turned it back on, and I was like, oh, in my mind again, he's disposing of the murder weapon, getting rid of, burning the clothes, probably burying stuff, who knows.
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Und sicher genug, in dieser neuen Information zeigt es sich, dass etwa eine Stunde danach, als er das berühmte Selfie nahm, sein Handy ca. 35 Meilen südlich von Pullman klingelte. Nun, die Bewerber haben eine funktionierende Theorie davon, was er während dieser Zeit gemacht hat. Es scheint, dass eine Berge nahe ist.
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So they believe it is very likely that at this time he was disposing of the evidence. Whether that was the knife, the bloody clothes, all of it, who knows. So we've gone over now Brian's movements and his timelines before and during the murders.
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But now I want to quickly go over what he was doing after the murders, because I personally think that it shows that he was really starting to worry about the very real possibility of being caught. Because two days after the murders, on November 15th, Brian was right back on Amazon looking up the same K-Bar knife and knife sheath, the one that he had already purchased months prior.
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He even added it to his cart, then went through the whole checkout process, everything to where you're about to check out, but at the last minute, he didn't go through with the purchase. Then on the 16th, he googled University of Idaho Murders.
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So it kind of made sense for her to move on with her life, to move back home and just, you know, start to leave that party life behind her. However, as we all probably have come to know, November 12th was a very big day in Moscow. And not only was it a big day in hindsight, given what happened, but it was a big game day.
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And on the 18th, he was pretty busy because his phone records show he watched a TV show about Ted Bundy, a YouTube video about the Idaho 4 victims, arguably his victims. Then he went to the DMV and he got his license plate switched out from Pennsylvania to Washington. He even took photos on his phone of his car and the new plates on it.
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Es dauert nicht mal ein Atomwissenschaftler, um all das zu verbreiten. Er hat sich definitiv mit den Untersuchern über die Mörder beschäftigt, um zu sehen, ob sie alle mit ihm sind, um zu sehen, was das YouTube-Video darüber war. Vielleicht wird es in der Trialung herauskommen. Ich wundere mich, ob der gute Brian Coburger dieses Video gesehen hat.
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Aber dann hat er die Leistungsplätze gewechselt, sodass, wenn die Kameras, was wie ein No-Brainer fühlt sich an, wenn die Kameras seine Auto gesehen haben oder seine Auto gefangen haben, wird es nicht das gleiche Fahrzeug aussehen. Es wird ein ausgestattetes Fahrzeug aussehen. Dann, über die nächsten sechs Wochen, hat er ständig die Mörder angeschaut.
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Ob online, YouTube-Videos, wo auch immer, hat er sich ständig darauf angeschaut. Er hat sich auf die neuesten Updates im Falle geäußert. Und am 22. November, und auch am 6. Dezember, hat er wieder die K-Bar-Knäpfe, die Utilitätsknäpfe, die Knäpfeblätter angeschaut. Und jedes Mal hat er durch den Prozess, Dinge in sein Auto zu legen, als ob er etwas kaufen würde.
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Aber dann hat er es nicht gemacht, für irgendeinen Grund. And maybe this is just my assumption, but you have to think about the fact that Brian was not dumb. He was getting his doctorate degree. He was studying criminology. He had been doing all of his own research into big serial killers, like big names, Bundy, Dahmer, BTK, you name it.
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So I have to wonder if he was going back and forth between buying a new knife sheath and knife, also that if the time ever came for him to be questioned, he could just hand those over as a decoy of sorts. The knife sheath wouldn't be the same exact one left at the crime scene. It wouldn't come back as the murder weapon. Würden sie identisch sein? Natürlich.
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Aber diese Waffen und Schuhe wären nicht diejenigen gewesen, die vier Kinder technisch getötet haben. Es gibt also viele Fehler in diesem Plan, was er sicherlich bemerkt hat, weil es so ist, dass deine Verkaufshistorie immer noch beurteilt wird, dass du ein Verkaufssystem gekauft hast. Aber für irgendeinen Grund, ja, er hat sie nie gekauft.
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Now apparently, as time went on, Brian began acting more and more paranoid. And this came from what Dateline described as a source very close to the investigation. They said that his family noticed he was behaving very oddly. And I guess one of his family members even said to Brian's dad, could Brian have killed those students?
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Begründet wurde, dass er auch ständig durchs Garbage an seinen Eltern zuhause ging. Das war, als er die Schuhe anhatte, als er mit dem Trash rumschlug. Ein sehr paranoides Verhalten. Vielleicht dachten sie, dass er ein Germaphobe war. Vielleicht, wie ich gesagt habe, war er einfach wirklich gut in der Kriminalität aufgewachsen. Ich weiß es nicht.
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Vielleicht wusste er, dass sie durchs Trash kommen würden, um sein DNA, welches, um ehrlich zu sein, sie hatten.
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And if you've ever been to college or ever watched Friday Night Lights or anything like that, you know how huge game day is. Auch wenn du Fußball nicht magst oder genießt, ist es Spieltag. Die Gemeinschaft ist in Chaos. Alle sind aufgeregt. Es gibt so viel Energie. Alle werden aufgestanden. Sie gehen aus, um zu feiern. Sie wollen feiern. Es ist ein großer Tag.
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Und wiederum, all diese Dinge sind nur verurteilt. Sie kamen nicht direkt von einem seiner Familienmitglieden, die auf diesem Episode interviewt wurden oder so etwas. Also wer weiß wirklich, was wahr ist und was nicht. Aber ich glaube, dass Dateline keine Informationen erhoben würde, die nicht getestet wurden oder aus einer sehr möglichen Suche kamen.
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Sie sind normalerweise sehr vorsichtig mit der Litigation, also glaube ich, dass es da ein bisschen Gerechtigkeit gibt. Und ich sage es jedes Mal, wenn wir neue Details mit diesem Fall kommen. Aber als das Trial näher kommt, wird es nur mehr und mehr Informationen geben, die wir lernen. Was ich glaube, das größte Ding, auf das ich immer noch festgehalten bin, ist das Warum.
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Nun, ziemlich früh in diesem Episode hat Dateline es sehr klar gemacht, dass es noch keine offizielle Korrelation zwischen Brian und allen Ruhepartnern gibt. Er hatte viele Bilder von jungen Mädchen auf seinem Telefon, aber keine von ihnen waren Maddie, Kaylee, Zanna oder sogar die überlebenden Ruhepartner.
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Now apparently, lots of girls in these photos were students at the college, and some people were even mutual friends with the victims on Instagram, you know, following each other back and forth. But like I said, there were no pictures of any of the victims specifically.
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Based on what we know, which, let's be real, is probably very little compared to what the investigators know, Brian just kind of woke up one day and started basically stalking that house on King Road. Nun, ich werde sagen, es gab auch eine Mädchen, die in dieser Date-Line war, die bei einer Pool-Party war, wo Brian war.
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Sie haben ein bisschen gesprochen, sie haben über Hiking gesprochen, sie haben Nummern gehandelt und er hat ihr am nächsten Tag eine Textmessage gesendet, die sagte, hey, ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass wir uns bei der Party getroffen haben oder was auch immer.
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Wir haben über Hiking gesprochen, ich genieße sehr viel diese Aktivität, wie sie für eine Anrufung für Hiking gehen, die sie in diesem Episode sagt, weißt du, könnte ich ein Opfer sein, wie das zu sagen, es ist einfach schrecklich, das zu denken. But that's not even clear of any sort of connection necessarily. It's all just speculation.
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What we do at least seem to know now as a concrete fact, not just speculation, or I should say not just my previous speculation, but it does seem like Maddie was the target. Which, again, I feel like was the running theory for quite some time now, at least my running theory. We just don't know why or when his initial sights got set on her.
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And maybe we never will know that, or maybe we will learn an even more in-depth timeline during his trial. And speaking of his trial too, the very tail end of the episode kind of highlighted what could become a very real possibility. Because they theorized that Brian's defense team will try to create reasonable doubt by providing an alternate suspect.
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This all based on a new tip that his defense team has received. Not only that, but apparently the state also failed to ever test the unidentified blood sample on the banister inside the house and on the glove that was outside of the house. So does this immediately mean that Brian is the wrong guy? Not necessarily.
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Und es ist im Grunde wie eine unerörterte Regel, die du feiern wirst. Und wir wissen, dass das genau das ist, was die Ruhepräsidenten an dem Tag gemacht haben. Also hat Ashlyn die Pläne gemacht, mit Maddie am Abend zu bleiben. Aber ihre Pläne haben sich aber kaputt gemacht, als ihr Vortrag von ihren Eltern wieder aufgeschaltet wurde.
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But it could mean that the defense has a slightly better argument that it wasn't him. Again, that's just the theory the Dateline was tossing around, but it could become very real here in just a few short months. So I'm really curious to know what you guys think. Do you think that Brian's the guy, or are you still somebody who maybe sits in the camp of him being innocent and being framed?
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Es wird interessant sein zu sehen, was in den nächsten paar Monaten über diesen Fall herauskommt. Es ist interessant, weil es am letzten Dienstag ein Bericht über den Fall gab, über welchen Beurteilungen die Beurteilungen testen werden, was für Beweise erlaubt wurde, ob die Beurteilung live gestreamt werden würde. They did confirm the trial will be live streamed on the court's website.
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So we actually are going to be attending in person as well, but we will be covering it regardless whether we are in the courthouse or if we're live streaming it with you like we've been doing in the off weeks of Karen Reed. So. Make sure you subscribe and follow the podcast if you are not already so that you don't miss any of those updates. But yeah, they did confirm it will be live streamed.
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They also discussed how when Dylan and Bethany do testify that they will have the choice of whether or not their testimony is live streamed, whether it's audio only or muted completely. And they also said that should they want to attend the trial, they will of course have seats in the courthouse reserved for them. So I thought that that was an interesting take.
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We haven't heard situations and details like that in other cases before. But it's coming up. We are what, maybe 8 to 10 weeks out? I don't know the exact math, but... It's going to be here before we know it. So I will be covering it every single week with you, maybe even daily. We'll see how it goes.
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So like I said, if you're not following the podcast yet, take a quick second and make sure that you're following so that you don't miss those updates. Other than that, I will be back with you on Friday this week with Karen Reid trial updates. I'll be back with you on Thursday with headline highlights with everything going down this week in true crime.
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And then, of course, back with you again Monday. Be nice, don't kill people, stay safe. Don't befriend Brian Koberger and just take care of your well-being. Alright, thanks guys.
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Wegen dessen musste sie zu Hause bleiben und ihre Pferde überwachen. Sie war also nicht mehr am Spieltag, und sie konnte nicht die Nacht mit Maddy bei der King Road House verbringen. Hörte ich diese Geschichte, habe ich mich wirklich ein bisschen überrascht. Ich bin mir sicher, dass es euch auch ein bisschen überrascht hat, wenn ihr es gesehen habt. Denn sie sollte die Nacht mit Maddy verbringen.
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Sie wäre im Bett mit ihr gewesen. Sie schläft aus dem Alkohol, denkt nichts davon. Und an dem Zeitpunkt war sie wahrscheinlich wütend, dass sie einen Hund besitzen musste, richtig? Sie war wahrscheinlich wütend und überrascht, dass sie all den Spaß verpasst hat, nicht mal daran zu merken, dass sie wahrscheinlich am Abend gestorben wäre. Sie hätte wahrscheinlich getötet, hätte sie weggegangen.
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Und es gibt einfach keinen anderen Weg, um es zu machen. Sie hätte in der direkten Linie des Feuers gewesen. Und das ist eine wirklich schreckliche Sache, um zu denken. I don't know if you would call it divine intervention or God's plan, whatever you're comfortable calling it.
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But that has to weigh heavily on you knowing, holy shit, I could have died last night if I didn't just happen to have to stay home. And what is it called? Like the butterfly effect, right? If her parents' flight hadn't been delayed or canceled, she wouldn't have had to stay home to watch her dogs. She wouldn't still be alive. It's just, it's eerie to think about.
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Kind of like Final Destination-y, too. Nun, wie gesagt, einige dieser Interviews fühlten sich ein wenig für Schockwerte oder um Charakter und Verhalten zu illustrieren. Und ich denke, dass das das war, was mit dieser Interview ging. Ich denke, es war ein wenig für Schockwerte, aber es hat funktioniert. Ich habe es nicht mehr stoppt, darüber nachzudenken, seit ich dieses Episode gesehen habe.
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Hallo, hallo, hallo. Willkommen zurück zu einem neuen Episode von Seriallessly. Mit mir ist Annie Elise. Ich hoffe, ihr hattet einen tollen Wochenende. Ich fliege nach Boston, gleich nach dem Karen-Reed-Trial. Ich bin sehr beschäftigt mit der Packung und der Bereitstellung. Ich werde die ganze Woche da sein, um den Fall und das Gericht zu besprechen. Aber...
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Nun, das zweite Interview, per se, war kein direktes Interview mit einer Person, sondern mit einigen anderen Leuten, die über eine bestimmte Situation gesprochen haben, die wir jetzt sprechen werden. Und ich wollte in diesem Bereich des Episodes hinzufügen, weil ich denke, wenn es wahr ist, zeigt es wirklich einige große rote Flagge in Brian, die zu den Mördern führen.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So there was this discussion about Brian being a teaching assistant, right? And how not many people really liked him. A lot of students felt like he was very sexist, that he would purposefully give women who were in the class bad grades, that he kind of had this like smug, arrogant attitude about him. Und weil er ein TA war, arbeitete er sehr intensiv mit einer Frau namens Nayoung Ko.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Sie haben ein Büro zusammengearbeitet. Sie arbeiteten beidseitig ziemlich regelmäßig, richtig? Und wie gesagt, alles, was ich jetzt beschreiben werde, kommt von anderen Leuten, die die Events beurteilen. Also muss alles mit einem Schluck Salz genommen werden, weil du das Telefon-Spiel kennst, wie Dinge sich über die Zeit verändern können.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Nayoung und Brian haben also diese regelmäßigen Gespräche begonnen. Nichts Großartiges, nur mindlesses Chit-Chat hier und da. Aber schlussendlich begann sie, für Brian Gefühle zu bekommen. The feelings were not mutual, however, and he apparently turned her down. However, the two of them did stay friendly, and then luckily things weren't too awkward between them.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
But Nayoung was from Korea, and she didn't really know anybody. She didn't really have many friends, which seems to be almost why she clung to Brian a little bit. They even lived in the same apartment complex. So it was somebody who she worked with, she was close with, friendly with, they lived nearby. Somebody who's almost like a comfort to her, right?
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So when she came home late one night on September 10th, 2022, just a little over two months before the quadruple murders, her apartment had been broken into. And she was spooked, so she reached out to Brian for comfort, for safety, for a close friend who's nearby. And you might be thinking, well, why didn't she call the cops? Nun, weil das nicht genau ein typischer Einbruch war.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Sie wusste nicht, dass jemand in ihrer Wohnung war, weil die Tür aufgeräumt wurde und ihre Dinge aufgehängt wurden und überall aufgehängt wurden, was ehrlich gesagt wahrscheinlich besser wäre, aber was sie stattdessen gefunden hat, war etwas, was mehr aus einem psychologischen Thriller oder einem Horrorfilm kam.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Dieses Frühling fühle ich mich, als würde ich alles tun, was möglich ist, um auf dem Weg zu bleiben und nicht hinter mir zu gehen, nicht überwältigt zu werden. Und ich habe mit Ihnen über Factor gesprochen, aber ich möchte sie nochmals erwähnen, weil sie meine Routine so viel verändert haben für mich.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Wenn du jemals fühlst, als würdest du besser essen, aber du hast keine Zeit, um zu prägen, um zu kaufen, um zu kochen, um all die Dinge zu tun, wie ich fühle, als hätte ich keine Zeit, um zu tun, lass mich dich auf Factor einstellen. Because these are chef-prepared meals that show up fresh at your doorstep. And all you have to do is heat them up. It's two minutes. That's it.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
And I'm not talking like heating up a frozen meal like the old school days of TV dinners. These are so good. Just last night I had their shredded chicken taco bowl and it was so flavorful, so tasty. I was done feeling like, voll und gut. Es war nur die richtige Menge von Essen. Und es war, ich fühlte nicht, als ob ich kompromissiert war. Weißt du, es war eigentlich wirklich gut.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Und die Abendessen-Eigbüttchen, ich bin besessen mit ihnen. Du weißt schon, dass ich besessen bin mit ihren Schokoladen-Bananen-Smoothies. Ich nehme sie jeden Tag, wenn ich aus dem Haus gehe. Der Geschmack, sie haben es genutzt. Ich weiß gar nicht, wie. But they have over 45 meals every week and they have options like Calorie Smart, Keto, Protein Plus, you name it.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
It was a busy weekend full of packing and doing some last minute stuff before I jump on the flight. So I hope you had a nice weekend as well. And for those of you who are following the Karen Reid trial and all that coverage, the recap that I put out at the end of this week will of course be from my time in the courtroom and, you know. Das war meine Erfahrung zuerst.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
See, before she left her apartment, there was a cake that she had baked and it was still sitting right there on top of the oven. She had messed it up during the baking process and it got burnt, but for whatever reason, she was pressed for time and she didn't have a chance to like chuck it in the garbage before leaving. So she just left it there, right on top of the oven.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Yet when she got home, the cake was inside the microwave. And she didn't have roommates, she didn't have anybody close in her life that she had given a spare key to either. She knew that the cake was burned and that it was probably disgusting, so she definitely wouldn't have mindlessly put it in the microwave so that she could eat it later and store it.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
It looked as though somebody came in and intentionally moved it. And on top of that, she went into the bathroom and she found that all of her makeup was perfectly lined up on top of the toilet seat. Sie hat ihre Mascara-Maschinen in der Toilette gehalten. Sie wusste also, dass sie nicht derjenige war, der das nicht gemacht hat. Sie hat es auf einem Toilettenstuhl organisiert.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Man kann es einfach erklären. Eine Maske auf dem Boden. Vielleicht hat sie den Kühlschrank ausgelöst. Oder sogar eine Puff-Maschine, die weggefallen ist. Vielleicht hast du sie übernommen und es nicht bemerkt hast. But now, for her coming home to every single makeup product that she owned just neatly lined up where she never would have put it, that's enough to like fuel a nightmare.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
It's very weird, right? It's like, it's so intricate. It's so detailed. So at this point, she was looking around the house for any sign that somebody had broken in and she wanted to make sure she wasn't just like paranoid and losing it. And as she was looking around, that's when she realized that two items that were very near and dear to her were nowhere to be found.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
The two items missing were a watch that she wore almost daily. and what Dateline described as a, quote, personal letter. Now, I don't know if this is a love letter from, you know, the one that got away, a letter from a family member. We don't know.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
All we know is that it's the sort of thing that she kept in one spot, knew without a doubt where it was, and then knew that it was missing when she went looking for it. So she of course freaked out. And she didn't know if she should call the police or not. There were no signs of forced entry. There was no real technical threat to her.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So I'm sure she probably came to the realization that there was nothing that they could really do for her. Und ich sage nicht, dass das passiert sein sollte und dass sie die Polizei nicht anrufen sollte. Aber vielleicht dachte sie, dass sie sie nicht ernst nehmen würde. Vielleicht würde sie sie sogar verrückt anrufen. Sie würde sagen, bist du sicher, dass du die Make-up so organisiert hast?
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Bist du sicher, dass du es nicht falsch gemacht hast? Welche Art von Person ist es, in dein Haus zu brechen und einen Kaffee in einen Mikrowasser zu bringen? Sie beginnt, sich fast selbst zu bedauern, richtig? Was wirklich, wenn du jemals in so einer Situation bist, die Polizei anrufen, damit es dokumentiert wird. Vielleicht finden sie Bilder. Vielleicht können sie etwas tun. Ich weiß es nicht.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Aber wie ihr wahrscheinlich wisst, von dem Titel dieses Videos, sind wir heute nicht hier, um über Karen Reed zu sprechen. Wir sind hier, um über viele neue Updates in der Idaho 4 Case zu sprechen. Nun, wir haben einige Updates über die letzten paar Monate, weil wir, als wir näher und näher zu der Trial in August gehen,
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
But the point is that scared, with nobody else to call, she called Brian. And he allowed her to come and stay over at his place after this. Then, after the incident, she got a very high-tech security system. However, she was having a lot of difficulty putting it together.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
So again, she called her friend, I don't want to say knight in shining armor, but somebody who she trusted and relied on, and she called Brian, and he came to her rescue. So now with all of that information, fast forward, and after the quadruple murders happened of the Idaho students, and after Brian was arrested...
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Sie begann offensichtlich zu fragen, ob oder nicht Brian diejenige war, die in ihr Apartment reingeworfen wurde. Vor allem, weil, wie die Geschichte sagt, nur ein paar Tage vor dem Rauschen, die Apartment-Keys, die sie normalerweise in ihrem Tisch am Arbeitstag hielt, verloren waren.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Sie hat die ganzen Offiziere geschaut, hat sogar Brian gefragt, ob er es gesehen hat, oder ob er jemanden gesehen hat, der in ihr Office kam. Denn, erinnere dich, sie haben ein Office geteilt. Aber er hat natürlich gesagt, nein, nicht überhaupt, ich habe es nicht gesehen, ich habe niemanden gesehen, ich weiß nicht, wo es sein könnte.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Aber dann magisch, aus der Blüte, hat sie die Schlüssel gefunden, right back where it always was. Right where she had just been looking for it, but saw nothing. Nun, natürlich gibt es keine Beweise dafür, dass Brian dafür verantwortlich war. Sie hat die Polizei nie angerufen, es gab keinen Ereignisreport, keine Untersuchung, aber sie fühlt sich, als wäre es sehr leicht er gewesen.
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276: Idaho 4: Bryan’s Motive, His Graphic Google Searches & His Obsession
Und sie hat diese Liste der Fragen sogar einen Schritt weiter genommen, fragend, ob er ihre Sicherheitskamera-Informationen sogar auf seinem Telefon gelegt hat, als er sie installiert hat. Wie, all diese private Login-Informationen zu retten, damit er beurteilen könnte, Was funktioniert, was nicht, wer kommt, wer geht. Und noch einmal, das ist alles nur Spekulation. Aber es macht Sinn, nicht wahr?
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
She was the Utah mommy influencer known for her no-nonsense parenting. I'm only going to say it one more time, and then you're going to lose the privilege to eat dinner. Ruby Frankie sharing her life at home with six children to her more than two million followers on YouTube. Today we are starting off our day the way we do every day.
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
But Ruby's social media empire quickly unraveled when her youngest son escaped in August of 2023. This chilling 911 call leading to her arrest.
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
Now, for the first time, Ruby's eldest daughter, Sherry, is telling her story in a new memoir, The House of My Mother.
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
Sherry, who says she was cut off from the family when she left for college, detailing abuse she says her mother inflicted throughout her childhood.
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
Enter Jody Hildebrandt, a Mormon family counselor and mentor to Ruby. Could you feel the shift when Jody came into your family's life?
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
In 2022, Hildebrandt moved into the Frankie home. The children's father, Kevin, moved out shortly after.
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
What was that relationship between the two of them?
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
In the book, Sherry writing about messages between the two she says she found on Ruby's laptop after their arrest. That confirmed for me the truth about the nature of her relationship with Jodi and how it had spilled over into the physical. Ruby expressing her frustration about having to cater to Jodi's needs for physical affection without getting anything in return.
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
Were they romantically involved with each other?
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
Do you think they were more than friends? Um, I'm not sure. ABC News reached out to Ruby and Hildebrand for comment, but did not hear back. Both women pleaded guilty to four counts of child abuse against the two youngest children, but not Sherry, and will serve at least four years in prison. To my babies, my six little chicks, you are part of me. Did you believe that she was apologetic?
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
There is no such thing as a moral or ethical family vlogger. Advocating to restrict family vlogging with children too young to consent. Is there anything that you would say to Ruby if you had the chance?
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231: Ruby Franke's Steamy Love Affair with Jodi Hildebrandt? | Shari Franke's New Memoir "The House of My Mother: A Daughter's Quest for Freedom"
Have you forgiven Ruby?
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
I think that seeing the power of the specific, the like little human memories that someone would share in the writer's room and how that would connect with so many people and how if you put these stories that might seem too small for TV out there, you get people seeing themselves in it and reflecting people's lives back at them, I think is amazing. so much of what TV is designed for.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
If movies are supposed to be grand and world building, like seeing little moments of humanity where you recognize yourself in characters is what TV does best. And if you can do that on a really high level, like it just, it means something to an audience.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
about you yeah i'd say for me it's more like the little details and sort of the random moments of the fabric of my childhood like uh we like would listen to great graceland was the only tape in my dad's car so we would listen to that for thanksgiving every year on the drive down to the only tape in my mom's car no it's a it's a great album but after a certain point you're like we gotta yeah we gotta mix it up so like getting to like reach out to paul simon's people and like get that and put that in the show or like we did an episode i think it was yeah
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Rebecca was in the hospital and Jack had the kids and he made them corn sandwiches, like canned corn sandwiches, which was a thing that my dad would do whenever my mom wasn't there. Like, I remember in the production meeting, everyone was just looking at me like, I'm sorry, what is this? Like Andy props was like, I don't know how to make that. And then like,
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And then there was a spot, the Today Show did a thing the next day. That's how big the show is. They were like, canned corn sandwiches. Like, what is this? And I was like, dad, I told you it's not a thing.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
It's just like sugar on carbs on carbs. It's like nothing.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
We were not a word perfect show at all. But you guys were also so respectful. It wasn't like we had to worry about it. In particular, Milo, I remember would like, he'd like call the office and be like, hey, hey, can I come by? Like, we got to talk about this script. And I'd be like, oh man, is he like, does he want to throw out a story? Like, we're really behind.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
I hope like, and then he would come and he'd be like, is it okay if I say, Beck, we got to get to the party instead of Beck, we should go to the party. And I was like, Milo, of course, man. Like, buddy, you don't even have to like.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
But I think it's like, if it's working and like you have good writers and smart actors and everyone is trying to make the same show, which we very much were, like that's the best part of the process is having those conversations and like, yeah, I think you're right. We shouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's very much what this always was.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
It was also, the first few weeks were so intense. It was so intense. Yeah, like Elizabeth said, getting into these characters, talking big picture. And then we had all these guest speakers coming in to talk about some of the issues the show was gonna take on. like a camp, right? Like a boot camp. Yeah, like a boot camp of like- Before we started.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, of like adoption and eating disorders and all kinds of, and like, I think the first or second day we had a woman come in who, and speak to like struggling with eating disorder her whole life and having to be hospitalized for almost rupturing her stomach. And we were all crying, listening to this.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And then the baseball show next door, Pitch, we saw their guest speaker were like three cheerleaders from, and we were like, wow.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And every turn, there's a new baby in this. What's weird though, like when we started the show, like none of us, like including Dan, had kids. So we were like, the three of us were kind of like doing this thing, like a lot of the writers did, and that was great. But we would be like, kind of guessing at what it was like. And now you watch the show. And now like I have a 10-month-old at home.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
I'm like, oh, like that's what I was writing about.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, there was big, I mean, that was a huge conversation of how to tackle COVID on the show. And we had already shot and aired that story, that flash forward story where you realize Rebecca in a state of Alzheimer's has wandered into a Chinese restaurant. And like we were, and that would have been in the thick of COVID. And of course, when we made that, we didn't know COVID was a thing.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And so there was talk of, did we show like, would it be irresponsible to have that? And people weren't wearing masks. Cause this was when that was a big point of contention. There was so much, like the show had so many eyeballs on it. And there was such pressure at that time to like represent COVID appropriately and safely.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And that was just, it felt like there was just such a weight on like, on just doing right by the world and the time we were in. And then much less delivering on all the narratives we had already crafted that didn't have COVID in them. So that was a big rearrange.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
That was more than a day. That was maybe the closest something came to happening that-
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
The fire and the smoke inhalation, Dan came in with that. And then the details of all of that, we cracked together. The slow cooker was a later entry. He knew. Some people try to use a name for him. No, no, no. We got media trained on that.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
There were a few snafus. I believe Ellen DeGeneres was involved in one. We got scolded.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
No, because NBC was, like, they gave us that. Like, we really could craft this thing like a novel or a movie.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
We're going to do This Is Us Babies. It's going to be animated, so you guys will have to wait.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And the kids, the aging kids, it made it so like, you can only tell those flashbacks. There was a finite quality. That's why we had to shoot stuff early.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
What does a showrunner do and could I do it? I mean, if you think of like a TV show as a small company with probably 200 people on This Is Us, a showrunner is kind of responsible for kind of running the thing and keeping it all moving.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Oh yeah, 100%. I think it's just the trick of This Is Us is that it took, again, these like very relatable human moments and sort of presented them almost in the framework of like a thriller or a lost type show where there was something so propulsive and there's mystery and you're like, I have to know, I have to fill in the blanks as I watch. And I think that...
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
you need that level of noisy in order for it to cut through, because there's just so much out there. I don't think the quiet version of the family drama right now could necessarily find this audience. So it's about like whoever can crack the kind of the next version that doesn't feel derivative, but that has some type of engine like that.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
I think it became those flash forwards to that future house and like older Rebecca and who's with who then? How does everyone wind up in their ways?
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, so it kind of flipped from the propulsion was in the past and filling in those blanks, and then it became the future. It's very lost. Yeah, very lost. It's very lost.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Everyone's like, where am I? Where am I? Oh, that's true. Because people would be showing up to the house.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And so it's like, you're running the writer's room, you're keeping the scripts on track and the stories on track, you're casting, you're overseeing edits, you're hiring people, you're sort of just keeping everything going, answering to the studio and network every day. Yeah, just kind of keeping the machine afloat. How big was the staff for This Is Us, the writers?
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And they would pick it apart. They'd be like, Sterling's hand was behind his back. Was he not wearing the ring? Did he lose his hand in an accident?
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Oh, hated it. Everyone was cool about it. And Justin's like, I don't want to look like that. I don't know. I would never look like that. I kind of felt similar to Justin.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
You're all covered head to toe and stretching stipple or whatever the glue is called. And he has like a little spray on gray. Yeah.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
No, and if people have been waiting, this is like broadcast TV, so now you binge it. But people were waiting from like May to September to like see their favorite Pearsons again. And you're like, you're settling in with the family on Tuesday night. And it's like-
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And we would do those three, those trilogies of three episodes that would take place over the same day from different perspectives. I mean, that people could follow those across three weeks. Like that is ambitious and demanding of an audience. But I think like we trusted that they could and people loved it.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
The Kate and Toby divorce episode, which is fully backwards, was very, very tricky. And just an intense episode to begin with because of the themes and the scenes, but then also to figure out how to hold the audience's hand enough.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, with her and her new... Fully backwards and also forwards.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And then I remember we like, we like showed him the first cut and he was like, guys, this is kind of confusing. And we were like, yeah, we know.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Don't worry, we're going to get it there.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And then those trilogies were just like on production for you guys, everybody just so ambitious. Cause like we'd have three directors doing an episode and you would cross through one room and then someone else would be there and we'd follow them.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Just rocking. Roxy would be rubbing his back and he'd just be rocking.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
We're going, departing soon, to go make a original musical comedy movie starring our favorite brotherly rock band, the Jonas Brothers. That's kind of like their version of A Hard Day's Night. We've always wanted to write a musical.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Is that what you thought we were doing? We're in the Try New Things phase of our career. We've always wanted to do a musical.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
So yeah, we're off to Europe and Canada soon too. It's them getting home to their families for Christmas from London and they go to Amsterdam, Germany, like all these places. Amazing. Sing a lot of songs. So cool. It's fantastic.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
This is a movie. This is a movie.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, it's the 20th anniversary of them as a band. It'll be next Christmas 25. Wow. Yeah.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Disney Plus. Maybe Hulu. Definitely Disney Plus.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
I guess Hulu's on Disney Plus.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
You have to cancel one and then bundle.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, you guys would come in the room and see like there were just index cards everywhere. It was like very beautiful mind, just like every surface covered in writing. And as the show got more complicated, our coordinators had to keep track of like, wait, we said, OK, we said Randall's birthday was here and he was at that. He had a party there, so we have to honor that.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
I don't know if you guys know this story. So obviously the first season and a half, we're trying to keep a secret of Jack's death and how he died. And so we had all over the walls the whole plan that detailed the whole thing. And we found out that on the weekends, the Paramount studio tour, they would bring tourists in and they would be like, and this is us writer's room.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
You can peek in the blinds. And... who knows how many people every weekend. But we had been so proud of ourselves.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And someone told us. So then we came up with the code names for everything. And we called Jack's Death Lemonade. And it was like this whole thing of like protecting from the tourists who would. Because people were like taking pictures. They would come just peer into our offices. And the whole thing was just written out in bold dry erase marker.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, we had already worked together on multiple shows. Like we met Dan right when we moved to LA and started writing.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
How did you become a team too? Origin stories. You can say how we became a team.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Well, we were supposed to go to set, but it turned out it was the night that Gosling was doing all his shirtless stuff and sex stuff with Emma Stone. And they were like, maybe this isn't the best time to bring two young writers to work.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, we met Dan. We worked with him on a sitcom he did called The Neighbors. We did another show with him called Grandfather, the Stamos show.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
And that was what we were working on when he was shooting the pilot with you guys. So we weren't at all involved officially in the pilot, but I remember as he does, he would like call us into his office and be like, Hey guys, like watch this tape. Like I found this guy, he's mostly been on daytime soaps, but I think he's like an Emmy caliber actor. And we were like, that was hardly like, and, uh,
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
So we sort of saw this thing come together. And then once the show got greenlit, we were under an overall at 20th, who was our studio. And Dan called us and said, I have two shows. If you want to go on either one, it's this or pitch the baseball show. And we are not sports people, although you do like baseball.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
It was not a hard decision.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, it depends. I mean, sometimes someone will have a real connection to the theme of a story. It'll have come from their life or they really, really like feel like they have a handle on it. And that's always great. Sometimes it's just kind of, you're going down, like early in the season, you're often just going down the list and sort of going from usually- You're riding the pool.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
It depends. I think three is not that, although we've done, we had a third guy in another show. We like a throuple.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
Yeah, I mean, it's such... Yeah, it's such... On a network show when you're doing 18 and trying to maintain the quality that we were and the ambition we were, it's really like you need as many people as can share the responsibility if they all get along and see the same thing in their heads.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
No, I mean, it's, yeah, we just, it's been so easy. Like, we've been so lucky. Again, it's like the same thing as us and Dan. We just have a real shared sensibility. We find the same things funny. We have the sort of same, like, invisible line for when things go from too sentimental to, you know, trickly to all that. From Jump Street, like, from college? Yeah.
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Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us
If you're for the listeners, it's her.
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The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I remember when I was younger, I was like in high school when I was still using pads. And I remember one time I was telling my sister, I was like, I hate putting them on at school because I feel like it sounds like I'm doing arts and crafts in the fucking bathroom. It's like, shh, shh, shh, shh, right? Like it's just so fucking loud. It sounds like Velcro. It's loud as fuck.
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Yeah, show me the girls. That's what I'm here for.
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That's why I can't wait for our part two. Act two.
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I know. I don't know. But I was like, the second act is like my favorite act.
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Girl. And thank goodness.
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We're only talking about Wiccan now. Don't care. Love it. Huge fan.
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No, I don't remember what age exactly. And that's honestly a credit to my parents because my parents were doing... There was never one present under my tree until Christmas morning.
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So I would wake up and be like...
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That's that's the part that's annoying.
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I felt the same way. And I, and I remember too, like, sometimes like when I started getting a little bit older, I would say like elementary school, I started feeling pressed by my friends. Cause I was like, no, he is real. Like I was, I was like, you'd think I was defending him in court, bitch. I was like, you guys don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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And I was, and I'm a Virgo and a big fucking know-it-all. So of course I'm like, you're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. And so I remember I would like do shit to like prove it. So I would like write letters to Santa, but I would like leave them by the tree. And I'm like, this is specifically for Santa. And if he's for real, he'll write back to me. And I know he will.
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And I remember one year I did it because I was so pissed off at this girl that kept telling me he wasn't real. And I was like, I'm telling you he is and I'm going to prove it. So I like I wrote a letter and I like left it by the tree and I'm like, he's going to respond. I know him. I know him like I know him like myself. He's going to do it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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And the next morning I remember running downstairs and I went to go get it. And this is before Christmas. So I was like, Santa, this is an emergency. So do what you got to do.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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And then when I went downstairs, like I got a letter back, but it was on like Christmas parchment paper. Like it was like branded, like monogrammed paper. And the handwriting was so like, it was like such a script looking handwriting. Like I knew what my mom's handwriting looked like. I know what my dad's handwriting looked like.
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And I was like, well, unless a white man broke in here and just did this shit, I know it's Santa Claus. Yeah.
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and so i was so like i was so convicted in it i took it to school i showed that girl in my class and she was like she was gagged bitch i gagged her yeah she was like and everyone was like oh my god i was like see told you damn and then she was like well it's probably your parents i go my parents don't write like that and i was showing her like things my mom had written i guess i'm dead you know at all i'm
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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receipts receipts up to my eyeballs bitch i have them all i've thought of every possible thing she could have said a virgo to my core and then she was like what if it was your cat who wrote it and i said case closed i just said that i said i won i won bitch you look like a fool cats can't write i'm talking about you fucking dumb ass
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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That's why I said, what is that for?
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Yeah, so that was probably when I was in fourth or fifth grade. So I think when I aged out of it, I just kind of was like, my parents were doing the craziest shit.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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What would you say is your most fun or memorable present you've ever gotten in your Christmases?
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Home Alone 2 was huge, I will say.
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I have no clue.
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I have no clue.
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I love when you get a gift that you're like, you never really think you're gonna get. That's so fun.
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That was a pretty big year, too.
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Are you a gamer girl?
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What kind of games do you like?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Oh, my God, you're so mean. Yes. I hate first-person shooter games.
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no i but my fiance played god of war and that was fun that was that was really fun love god of war i played have you played red dead redemption no but i should girl that one okay i played that during covid and when i finished i was like playing it all the time obviously because we had nothing but time during that time and i remember it was like so i was in that weird transitionary period of my life because i got fired and i had just barely started kind of doing tiktok so i was really lost at the time so i was like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I know what I'll do. I'll play a video game. And so I like balls deep in that game. I played it all the time. I would play till like two in the morning. And when it finishes, like at the end, the ending's sad, but like you can also determine the ending. It ends the same regardless. It's just like you're either a good person or a bad person, whatever. I always have to be a good person in the games.
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And then at the end, I was sobbing when it ended. I was crying like I lost a family member. And I was literally like, it's just, he's just such a good person. It's like having a nervous breakdown. Because I had such a connection to him. Okay, I'm going to play it too then. It's so fun.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Oh, my sisters played that one.
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That's a good idea.
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Have you ever played the Assassin's Creed games? I never got into those.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Those ones are pretty fun if you want a mindless one where you can run around a lot.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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You need a new game. Yeah, a new game.
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Me too. I've actually done that too. I think it's fun.
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I've never played that one.
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That's why you feel so connected.
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I know I laugh because when I play like, if I play like GTA or something like that, I like to play like the storyline. But if I like play with my sister, she likes to just fucking run around, which is fun too. I like to run around. But sometimes when we play together, I'm like, Dace, come over here.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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We're staying mission focused.
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Oh, yes. I've heard of that one, yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I don't like this jack around shit.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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There's a newer game that just came out called Black Myth Wukong. Have you heard of this game?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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It's like a fantasy game. But you're like, you're a literal, this sounds awful now that you said this, but you're a literal monkey, like an actual monkey. You're like a red furred monkey. Got it. He looks like a, I don't, what kind of monkey is that? I don't know what it is. Me acting like I know the difference of monkeys.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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And then everyone knows I'm putting a fucking diaper between my legs. Hey, everyone, and welcome back to another episode of the Comment Section Show. Sorry, me, your fave. Everybody knows me. Who cares about me? But first, before we go on to the guests, happy holidays, clearly. If this doesn't go live on Christmas, I'm going to be mad. Okay. Anyways, on to the guests today.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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It's just like, it's one with red fur and he has like a really long tail and really big ears.
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And like, that's the person you play as, which hate that. Immediately hate that. I told one of my fiance was like, just try it. Like, I think you'll like it. It's like an open, it's an open world game. It's a mission focused game, whatever. And I was like, I'm having, I'm having trouble connecting to the monkey. Spiritually.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Free labor. That's like a painting party or a moving party.
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i'm having i'm having trouble connecting to him i don't know we'll see and i was like i was trying it and that game is like reviewed i guess to be very difficult to play like the storyline is really hard no matter how what level you fucking put it at yeah bitch when i tell you i'm only running around for a couple minutes and then i have to fight two bosses already and i have no weapons no skills i don't know how to do shit i'm pissed off
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Yeah, I'm angry. Yeah. And so I played. And then, of course, as soon as I got killed at least three times, I was like, well, now all of my other plans are shot because I have to sit here and I have to beat this. I got nothing else to do. My whole day is taken now. And then I literally haven't played it since after I played for hours just that one day.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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And it's literally because I don't like losing that many times. Yeah. I was like, it's too hard. There's not enough. Like, let me fuck around. Let me, like, figure it out. Let me learn my moves.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I loved that fucking game.
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Sean, can you please do it for me, please? That's so funny. That's how I was too about games.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I would make my dad do it if I couldn't do it.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I loved Crash Bandicoot and the Spyro games. Spyro, yeah, the dragon one. Yes, I loved those games. We assaulted. Look at us.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Love. Okay, period. Okay, wait. Let's transition into this. Sorry. No, I love it. I love it. It's the best. Okay, so our topic for today. We have boyfriends and husbands who overlook their partners during the holidays while expecting them to do all the work. Basically, all the basic domestic stereotype gifts. Tree trimming, but with no help.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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So it's a tree trimming party, but it's just you at the party by yourself. Or not helping with cooking, cleaning, hosting, all of that stuff. Do you like hosting?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Especially holidays. Do you host?
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I love a game night.
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I get high as fuck too and I sit there and have fun.
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I know. I used to feel that way about moving parties. In college, I felt like it was like, oh, I'll buy pizza and beer. And then I have to do physical labor for 12 hours? Oh, let me think. Hmm. Nah. I say that. But honestly, my senior year of college, my friend asked me. She was like, if you come help me move, I'll buy dinner. And I was like, all right.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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And I feel like I love to host, but I love to host the way you do too, which is like provide everything and just come and have a good time. Yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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you're so me yeah 100% you're so me I'm like sometimes I would like tell my fiance I'm like do you think everybody's having a good time and he's like yeah of course they are literally meeting my boyfriend oh my god I was like do you think so okay cool I just want to make sure I just want to make
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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sure everybody the vibes are high love okay perfect you're just like me so for this one we have this first one okay this is a response video to a skit called how guys buy girls gifts for christmas where two guys are shopping for their girlfriends but they keep buying things they want for themselves and a man admits that he once bought his girlfriend a vintage trivial pursuit game just because he wanted it women in the comments were started to share their own real life experiences with disappointing gifts
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Have you ever gotten a disappointing gift from a romantic partner?
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Okay, yes. Last year. Hi, babe.
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okay and which is a nice gift yeah that's the the portable version of the ps5 but you know in in true sony fashion it's not like a switch like you can't just pick it up and like play anywhere it doesn't work it doesn't work i'm pissed off at it yeah you know what i mean i'm so serious i've tried to play i've played tried to play the witcher on it and i was like girl this thing doesn't work unless i'm right next to it literally what's the
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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I see. Oh, so is I see where his mind was.
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Just in practice. The product's not very good.
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So what's wrong with that thing?
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girl i try i literally try it on one and now it just i literally played it one time ever that's so funny that is so funny you say that because i got it for the same reasons i was like okay when i travel i'll take this with me and that'll be something nice that's not my phone no i can play and then it doesn't work it doesn't work it has no signal and then you need to be connected to the same wifi it has to be it's it's a mess
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Yeah, that's fair, though.
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Yes, and it would have been a great gift if it worked.
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This is for us.
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I don't think I've ever gotten one like if I did get one it would be similar like that like where I'd be like damn it doesn't work I don't think I've ever gotten one though where I was like from a partner romantic partner where I was like yeah yeah like we my sister and I talked about it recently like the only gifts I've ever gotten that I thought were like bad were like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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They're almost like from family members that don't really know you that well. So they kind of just get you whatever.
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To which I'm always like money works.
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And I'm getting a milkshake. On top of that.
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Or a bottle of alcohol.
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Yeah, I do drag, but I don't dress ugly. Yeah.
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I know. I feel like my sister and I had that kind of stint with extended family that they would get us either matching things, and we're like teens.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Yeah, and you know what's funny is, it was just the two of us, and we moved for hours. Damn. And you better believe I got a double patty hamburger, bitch.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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Yeah, matching things just like one's purple, one's pink. Like, okay, well, I'm 19, but thank you. It's like shit like that. Or, oh, one time I said my in-laws – It was like extended family on my in-laws side. So like they never really see them. They didn't know me at all. This was their first time meeting me. And this was probably the second year I was dating my fiance. So I'm like fairly new.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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So I'm not expecting anything from extended family at all. I brought something for everyone because I'm brown and it's just I can't help it. But it was like bottles of wine and shit like that. Just to be polite. And they were like, oh, we got you something, too. It was like an extended family member. And I was like, oh, really? Like for me? And they were like, yeah, yeah. Like, of course.
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Like, you know, it's like, you know.
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you're with billy and we love you guys and blah blah blah like they're like really gassing the gift and they're like oh we just we had to get you one we thought of you and like yeah of course i was like okay and they got it and it was like these fancy like truffle chocolates which i was like oh that's so sweet like thank you like and so when i was looking at the gift later in the day i was like it had like a picture on the back like it was in a bag it clear it was clear the bag came with the chocolates and so it had a little like diagram on the back of like
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
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What truffle chocolates were in there? And I was like, oh, cool. And then I was like, well, let me open it. So I took out the box and a card fell out. And I was like, oh, shit. I didn't even know they wrote me a card. And I go and I open the card. And it was a very detailed card to the couple that gave it to me from tenants who live in their building because they're like maintenance people.
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But it was a very detailed like, you guys are the best. You always help fix my sink. You're like the nice. And I read the whole thing. I go, oh.
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this gift wasn't for me it wasn't for me and i was like oh oh okay and then like reading the intimate details in that card i was like well this seems like a really meaningful gift for y'all like i was like well shit and then i i had to laugh there's no way you can't laugh i'm like well the thought was there yeah but i know it's on the way out there like oh shit billy has a new girlfriend grab that bag right there there's a chocolate i'm saying like
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That's my point. I'm like, trust me, I get it. And I think that's where I think if it's like a spouse that's new to the family, I think you can't go wrong with a gift card or candles, right? Or maybe like lotion or something. I don't know. A blanket.
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Right. It's California.
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Especially if we're like adults. I feel like those are, and then kids I feel like are easy to buy for.
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I love when kids are so blunt about gifts. Like it makes me laugh. Like I remember. for one time. My cousin, her dad is my mom's brother and he's a USC fan. So he's been to USC and he's just a die hard USC fan. And so everything, he loves USC visors, USC coolers. He's just one of those kinds of guys. And so he would get stuff for her all the time. He only has one child.
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She's a girl and she's very girly. She loves girly stuff. But when she was a child, probably nine, um they were like okay let's open gifts because we were like doing small gifts on christmas eve and she opens it and she's like not more usc stuff and she starts sobbing We're all laughing. And then she's like, I don't want this. Because she was like nine years old. Hilarious.
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I love how honest kids are. It kills me. Do you have a lot of kids in your family?
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I know. And I always think, too, like, even, and I'm sure you do this, too, because you love to host. Sometimes when people come to my house when I'm hosting, I'm like, everyone grab a grocery bag. Yep. Go in that room. Yes. And take whatever the fuck you want. Take whatever you want. Yeah. And sometimes they'll be like, oh, do you want me to show it to you? I'm like, I wouldn't notice.
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If it's gone, take it, girl. Take whatever you want. Yeah, because I try to empty it as often as I can and donate it. But there's just so much of it. And it's just like, just take it. You need a new skincare routine? Get in there, girl.
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I got their new flavored Doritos. I got that one.
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but i was like i know sometimes they're extra as fuck like i did a miller light deal and they but this i needed they they like dropped off it was a a keg stand like it holds a keg and it's like a giant present like humongous it was up to like my shoulder it was huge and it's all metal and it came with like a big bucket to put a keg in and then it holds a christmas tree
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In New York, too, is crazy.
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what and so it was enormous and it was when it was dropped off it was on a pallet and the the man who dropped it off was a hundred and he was like do you care if i just leave this pallet like my back hurts i was all like i guess not i care but now i can now i feel bad if i say i'm like i actually don't want a pallet in my garage but you seem like you're not really asking you're just
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Because you know the parking situation is crazy.
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and i told like it's so funny i was like anyone that came over i was like do you guys like miller light or know anyone that likes me do any of you want that my dad was trying so hard to take it my mom was like that thing is ugly no because it is it's enormous and i don't even remember who i gave it to i i gave it to someone but they were like i'm gonna take this to my brother's frat house and i was like perfect perfect you're the perfect home for it yeah go there yeah i know what you mean there's just it's too much there's too many things too many things girl
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and i am not a hoarder like i me either i love throwing shit away me too i do not hoard things same i yeah same i'm like it doesn't spark joy bye bye yeah okay well these are some of the comments about awful gifts people have gotten like this one says my ex is a giver of what he likes he does it with the kids too he believes his tastes and interests are superior he can't lower himself to buy things he thinks are unworthy damn don't buy gifts
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No, for real. It's so funny. We were talking, my mom's sister and I were talking about this on the way down here, but we were saying how like sometimes when men are so convicted, like straight men are so convicted that they're a good gift giver. It's like, because they buy shit that they would want.
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I'm going to pull the car out and be right back. Damn.
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And I said, whereas women and other people that are not straight men, they tend to listen to what you want and get you something like that.
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I don't care if I like it, you like it.
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No, yeah, of course you can.
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We'll go on to the next video. So in this video, a man is recording his family on Christmas morning, and he films all the kids opening their stockings, films his own stocking, and then films an empty stocking sitting on the couch. And he says, whose is this? And his wife says, mine. And he says, why is it empty? And his wife says, Santa forgot about me, I guess. And the man laughs.
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And the caption says that this woman's husband forgot to fill her stocking for 10 straight years. 10 years? 10 years? A decade? Oh, don't waste a second more run.
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We know you're a huge fan of the show. We know you're a huge fan of the show.
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No shit. Like, not even birthdays and anniversaries are out of the question.
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He's tired all of a sudden.
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10 years before she met this guy?
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For real. It's like these comments that God calmed down in the comments, my husband never remembers. Girl, that's one of those things where they'll say something that they think is so funny and relatable, and you're like,
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That sounds awful.
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Like, it's like it's it doesn't have to be that way, actually. It doesn't need to be that way at all, actually. Like the way people are like, oh, girl, my husband never remembers me either. Hmm.
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Well, then I'm holding both your hands.
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Oh, my husband hates me. He fucking hates me. This one says, all of y'all weirdos for attacking that man. How are you more mad at him than his own wife? Ridiculous internet warriors. I don't know.
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you when you see that bullet it's like that comment when that sometimes people leave and they're like may this love never find me it's one of those that's how i feel when i see it literally and also it's sad because it's like especially when i see because that's like one of those things where women sometimes women will post like things about their husbands being so thoughtless and and disrespectful and a very very
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um obvious but not like flagrant way so it's not like they're being like physically abused or anything but they're being like neglected emotionally and it's very obvious yeah and then everyone's like oh girl that's terrible and then when she follows up with videos and she'll say things like you guys don't even know him it's not even that serious like i remember a couple years ago i was getting tagged in this video and it was like these
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this couple getting married and they were exchanging vows and this this video went super viral on twitter and stuff too because it was just that bad but all it was like you could hear her her vows were very like intimate sentimental like like they're supposed to be their fucking vows yeah his were like it was like he was trying to be funny like do like almost like a roast like
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And you're like, Grandma, that wasn't me.
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And he was, like, making jokes about having sex with her and, like, I promise to, like, put my wiener inside you every night at this time or whatever. It was, like, gross, weird, disrespectful shit like that.
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Yes, girl. They're at the altar. He's reciting them and their parents are there. They have children and their children are there to which I'm like, and I remember I was getting tagged in it a million times and that girl was getting she kind of got mad that I was getting tagged, even though I didn't say anything. And she was like, you are all fucking single and you're all mad.
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That's how we joke around. That's what we do. He's a big jokester. He likes to joke, blah, blah, blah. And I remember I kept getting tagged in it so much so that I was getting annoyed. Cause I was like, this is clearly awful and I'm sending love and light her way. That's pretty much all I can do.
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But like, I talked about it and I was like, for those of you tagging me, like I get it, but I also, I feel bad for women who are in this situation and have to make peace with it. So they find reasons to be okay with it. It's the same thing as this, but the gifts, it's like you find reasons to make it feel less awful because it is awful objectively and
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but i was like but let's just say he's trying he is a funny guy right is are your wedding vows is that the time to start trying out new material like i don't give a fuck if you're the headmaster of chuckles university bitch why are you working a tight five here on our wedding day yeah like in front of me and our family and the lord fuck you you know what i'm saying like that's
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So what have you been up to? How's life?
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Oh, this will be hilarious. That's how I feel. Like, that's not the time to do that shit, you fucking bitch.
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So it's like one of those. But that would be scary, huh? If you got married and that's where they decide to show you.
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They're finally like, now I can be myself.
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okay this is these are uh comments from the last one about bad gifts but i want to read them so this one says my ex bought me a wee a wee for christmas i'm not even a casual gamer and i had asked for a nice drill drill and bit set and the wee gift was never for me it was a gift for him and it was all a ruse
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If it was recent, that'd be crazy. You bought like a refurbished one?
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No, yeah me not at all And I know that's one of those things that I equate to like the car. I'm like, I don't care Yeah, like I'll find someone Like I'll ask my man and if he doesn't know I'll call my dad. Yeah, that's kind of my solution to everything. I
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Dude, when I was, I was like trying to hang something once and I called my dad to ask him because I was home alone and my man was at work so I couldn't call him. So I called my dad and he was like, well, it depends. Is there, is there like, You know, whatever the fuck. A stud. He's like, is there a stud? I go, you're saying a lot of words at me. I don't know what they mean.
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I asked you, can I nail this into the wall? Is something bad going to happen? And my dad's like, it's not going to go in. Why? There's a stud back there. What does that mean? And my dad's all, just leave it. I'll come and I'll do it. And I was like, all right.
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And it's on camera.
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I know. I was like, I was telling my mom something the other day about something installed because my dad, like my man can do most handy things, but like electrical work, he can't do. My dad, for some reason, can he like taught himself how to do it? So he's hung up all my ring cameras, like doorbell, my lights, like my dad does all that shit for me.
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And, like, my mom was telling me something, and I was like, she goes, I think you need to buy, like, these attachments for it. And I was like, okay. And she goes, yeah, if you buy it and have it at the house, then you can, like, you know, have someone install it. And I go, and by that you mean I'll tell my dad to be here tomorrow and he'll install it. She goes, yeah. And I go, perfect. Awesome.
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That's one of those things where I'm like, I don't care. You can do it.
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I'll put 50 back there.
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But right now, it's great. It's great. I know. I wish I was more handy. But then I also think, nah.
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I don't have room up here for it. You know?
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Yeah. Or some other person that can do it. I even, like, shit with the car. Like, I remember one time I had to drop my car off to get new tires. Like, all four of them were bald as fuck and I needed to replace them. Oh, damn. Whatever that means. So, like, they called me and they were like, oh, like, we wanted to talk about the tires.
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Like, and he was, like, asking me all these fucking questions that I... don't know gibberish girl he could have been casting spells on me for all i fucking know the carburetor in uh the rear axle wheel of the cartilage exactly so he's like well it depends did you turn the the v6 over the v85 and i'm like I don't know what you're saying. I don't know what that means.
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I don't speak whatever that is.
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So when he was telling me, I go, I am not sure. And he goes, well, you don't know if like he was like, OK, well, do you know? And ask me again another question. I could not recite to you if my life depended on it. And then I said, you know, it might be easier if I just tell you this. The only thing I know about that car other than it's mine is that it's gray. That's it.
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up so much and you know what i was like and am i what misogynist believed a every woman to be a stupid bitch when i go to the mechanic yes yes but you don't know that so i'm like am i that person when i go there yeah i feel like the dumbest bitch alive when i have to go to the mechanic yeah but that's probably why i hate it that's why i don't want to learn anything same because i was like whatever
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I'm like, mm-hmm. And then you take your chips and leave the casino.
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you're like that's a good point yeah and i'm like okay yeah okay this last one says and this is also a bad gift it's once my ex bought me merch from my favorite quote favorite episode of a tv show we both liked i had never seen that season and he spent half an hour trying to convince me i had before realizing he meant his ex so damn he bought you extra merch also merch
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And you also can sing the house down. Can I just fucking say? But it has an incredible voice.
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I like to think that he thought genuinely it was her. And then he mid argument is like,
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And I feel like only a man would do that, to be honest. I will say, though, when me and my sister were recording recently, we had people send in the worst gifts. And someone said that when they went to their in-laws' house for the first time for Christmas... They got her this big, beautiful basket of Harry Potter stuff because they were like, oh, you we know how much you love Harry Potter.
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I'm pissed the fuck off about it. All I got was funny. I got hit with the funny shit, and that's it.
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And it was so sweet. And then she said, the thing is, though, I've never seen those movies. And they were talking about his last girlfriend. She was like a really big and they just like confused it. I was like, if that happened to me, I would literally be like me. Thank you.
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I'd be like, you know me.
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I do love this.
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Then it's a joke. We are all allowed to make fun of it.
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i uh i remember one of the first dates i went on with my now fiance this was like a date like because the first couple times we hung out i didn't think they were dates after the second one i was like well obviously these are days and then like the third one he was like can i take you on a date like he explicitly wanted me to know it was a day and i was like okay and so he's like i want to take you to a restaurant he had been telling me about a sushi restaurant for a
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But when we sat there, um, there was a waitress there that recognized him. My, my man is a big, a large human. He's hard to forget. Like if you've seen him, you've seen him, right? And she goes, Oh my God, how are you? He's like, good. She goes, I haven't seen her in so long. He goes, yeah, me either. And she looks at me and she goes, new girlfriend.
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Not at all, girl. Dang. I started – I asked for a keyboard for Christmas, like, when I was in probably seventh grade, and I got it. And then I taught myself, like, three songs, and then I was like – Well, I think I pretty much got the gist.
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um and like again we're not official yeah and like early stages but we are dating yeah this is literally the third date ever and we haven't even kissed yet so like we're like sitting there and i go and then he goes well uh he is well not yet but if you keep talking like that you might ruin it for me so and i started laughing and then she was like oh okay sorry sorry
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And then later on in the day, like she, she really loved me. She was so sweet. Such a sweet lady. She was, she was older. So that's why I think she was no, no like filter.
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And then she, at the end, she was like much better, much prettier. And I was like, and you know what, Julia, you're fucking right.
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That's the dream, isn't it?
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I had Karamo on recently, and Karamo was, like, telling me, you know what? I can't wait to be an ancestor. I think I'm going to be awesome as well. I think so, too.
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Right? And he was like, I just think I'm going to be awesome. I'm going to be so good at it. That's how I feel getting older, too.
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As an old person, I was like, I'm going to be so awesome as an old person.
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Period. Love that for us. Well, we talked about all kinds of things today on this very special holiday episode.
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I was just like, I wish I had that in me.
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thank you you know how much i love you i told you the first time but like you're one of the first queens i've ever like fallen in love with i mean we want to watch drag race like i'm just obsessed with you and i think you're fantastic and so talented and i'm so happy you came back to hang out with us thank you for having me and now we're gonna have game nights yes which i'm so excited yes yes yes yeah we have to it's gonna be great it's gonna be so fun and we're gonna host hostess with the mostest hostess with the mostest i get to see the hostess in action yeah it's gonna be fabulous oh my god now the pressure's on i have to make sure it's
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sickening when you come i think your version of like of good enough is everyone's version of like absolute perfection i had the best time of my life literally i had to go i go up i'd be killing i'd be killing it exactly i'm like you're only competing with yourself in that category But I adore you. I think you're so amazing. And I'm so happy you came back to hang out with us.
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And everybody already knows you. But where can everybody find you?
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Period. And your pod.
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Oh, my gosh. I'm so excited. I would love to be there. And thank you all so much for joining us on this amazing holiday all-star episode with the wonderful, amazing Monet X Change. Make sure y'all follow her on everything. If you don't already, I'm sure you do. There's no way you don't. But make sure you listen to her podcast. I might be on there pretty soon. So y'all got to go check that out too.
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And make sure you go see Monet on tour. She's fabulous and amazing and so talented. And I'm jealous she can sing. Whatever. Who cares? Thank you so much, my amazing guests. Thank you all for joining us on this episode. Don't forget, new episodes drop every Wednesday.
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You can stream all the audio on all streaming platforms, but the video lives for free and exclusively on our favorite platform, Spotify. But thank you so much. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays. Thank you for joining us. Thank you to Monet Exchange. And I'll see you next week. Bye.
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That's so true.
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I know, but that's how I feel about singing, too. And then I was joking about this with my sister once when I was talking about how, like... You know, sometimes and this is specifically to influencers because I'm an influencer.
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I want to joke about being a dickhead online, but like sometimes when they want you to know they can sing or they're like going to try to transition into singing, they'll post like 15 seconds of them doing a little riff and they'll be like, I don't know, drafts, right? This just sing, right? That's what I always think. Just sing. And I was laughing about it.
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But then I started thinking, I'm like, but let me find out I can sing is if I do, I'm going to do the same shit and I'm a hypocrite.
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And you know what? You've never seen me and Frank Sinatra in the same room. So who's to say, really?
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sometimes I hope sometimes I think I'm like maybe I am an amazing singer and then maybe I just need to find the right song you might girl you might but I love your voice I think you're a fantastic singer thank you and you're fucking hilarious thank you and I know you have your new podcast which is so exciting yes Monet Talks yes let's talk about it okay so I like you I think we have this in common I love to talk yes talk is my favorite thing to do period every report card was always Kevin is really smart he won't shut up
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And don't let me get a male Instacart driver.
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HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Oh, my gosh. Thank you for coming back. I'm sorry you had to come back like this.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Because cancel my order and give me a mystery bag instead.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
i had i i not even kidding a week ago i got i had a pretty big order because i needed some stuff but i needed a duvet cover right and i was like okay i need a new duvet cover and then they're pretty standard duvet covers yeah it was for target and it's like probably a 60 year old man that's doing it and then he messages me he goes there's no duvet covers and i go
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
You're in Target, so I find that really hard to believe. That's actually impossible that they don't have any. He goes, I checked. They don't have any. Sends me a picture. Nothing but duvet covers.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Hey, queen. I see at least four in this picture. Like, come on.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
there is horrible no no no no i can't you know what you want to know something crazy one time i was really sick and uh i was on my period at the same time and i needed uh i my washer and dryer were broken and i needed underwear like clean underwear obviously yeah but i needed like regular looking at it but not a thong or something because obviously i'm on my period And I had to order.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I ordered it from Instagram because it was late. And my man was like, let me just go to the store. And I was like, no, please don't leave. Like, I feel so sick. I don't want to be alone. Yeah. And so I ordered it. Of course, it's a man that gets my order. And then I'm like, God, he's going to give me the worst underwear in the world.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
My legs are going to turn purple because it's going to be too small. And I was like, fuck. And I was like, it's such a bad mood. And then he sent me the most detailed pictures. He was like, okay, they have brief bikini cut thong. And he's like, they have a multicolor pack, black or white. And I was like, okay, King. I said, one of each. He said, one of multicolor, one in black. I said, yeah.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
He said, okay, perfect. I'll get both. Do you want to try the other one too? I said, no, that's fine. He drops them off. When I tell you that's the best underwear I have now, girl, I'm not kidding.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I'm in this fit. You have two sandals on. It's a mess in here.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I was shocked. I was like, because all that was in my order was literally just three packs of underwear. That's it. I love that. And then he was giving me, he's like, okay, are you sure you don't want me to look around? I can do one more lap. I said, no, King, you did your job. I appreciate you. Thank you. He's like, this one is Egyptian cotton.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I just feel like a little crease when you, you know what I mean?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Imagine he messages me again. He goes, no, send me a picture of you in them.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
she's like oh my god thank you i needed to hear that i was like yeah girl just say it out loud right why don't it's a human function that we let half of literally more than half the population does right amen right and that and i love that you said that i think that's really sweet i remember when i was younger i was like in high school when i was still using our pads when i was still using pads and i remember one time i was telling my sister i was like i hate putting them on at school because i feel like it sounds like i'm doing arts and crafts in the fucking bathroom it's like shh shh shh shh
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
You were telling me, yeah, there's all kinds of things. Literally right before this, Monet was telling me, I'm just so sick of not having my autonomy. I don't want to have to ask people for help. I was like, you know what? I got to do something. I go, and naturally you pick the safest thing to do, which is drive. She was like, well, yeah. What?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
right like it's just so fucking loud sounds like velcro it's loud as fuck and then everyone knows i'm putting a fucking diaper between my legs i'm walking around with a pool noodle between my fucking thighs and then like my sister i'll never forget my sister goes i don't give a fuck when i open them i'm like really she goes no because i need it so i want to like her yes i love that i think i hearing that and first of all my sister's a lesbian need to mention that every episode but i shouldn't know then i shouldn't know then my sister was like who gives a fuck
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Who cares? And then I was like, actually, that's tea. I never forgot that because now I never care about how quiet. For some reason, I would get so embarrassed if it was so quiet in there. As if no one in that bathroom knows what that is. Please.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I love that. Speaking of Oz, what a weird transition. We love Wicked.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Speaking of periods, we love Wicked.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Yeah, the opera, mind you.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I will ask you. I want to ask you my question, though. One of my fun questions I was asking on the carpet.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I asked Bob to this question. So I did a fuck, marry, kill.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
But with songs from the movie. So I did The Wizard and I, Defying Gravity, and What Is This Feeling?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I'd love to know your answer.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
That was pretty popular.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I got chills like she's here. Like she's singing right now.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Imagine I open this up. She's inside it. She's that small. That shit really could fit inside this thing.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
They're a bite size. Bite size. Like truly so small.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
That's tough. I love that. Would you consider yourself an Elphaba or an Aglinda?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
What about just by yourself?
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
Right. And I'm mean as fuck. That's mine. Right? I don't give a damn what anybody thinks. I'll dance for my goddamn self. You know what I'm saying? Right. When I saw that Asda's ball scene.
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
oh my god i okay well i watched it at the premiere that was the first time i'd ever seen it obviously when i my sister and i first of all both sobbing quietly trying to be i was crying so hard i thought i was gonna have to go to the bathroom like i was like i have to excuse myself i'm like losing my mind like i'm literally having a heart attack like something's wrong with me and also i can i just say what
The Comment Section with Drew Afualo
HOLIDAY ALL STARS: MONET X CHANGE | Episode 150
I don't care about the goat song.
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I look at cooking things on TikTok and that's it. You're better than us. I close it off. Yeah, I try. I protect my emotions.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. I love it. I do, but I don't like to watch it.
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That you forgot about. Yeah, or the season, the second season, if something comes out, and I'm like, oh, yeah, two years later. I loved that show. Now what happened, because I've watched so much stuff in between, and I can't remember what happened. Yes, there's so much stuff to watch. I remember books. They exist too.
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I actually love to cook. Chrissy, you are a good cook.
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I have a full test kitchen. I test out new recipes. Some work, some don't. But yeah, I love it.
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I mean, now that you mention it, I can think of something.
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A rip here and a tear there, lips and clothes everywhere, it's got to be Milton.
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I just say, you're really cute, or you're really attractive, or... You are hot. Do you really get my goose?
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Oh, my God. I envy the lint in that sweet little innie. It's got to be Milton.
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We went to go to this one bar, and there was a line around the door, so we said the heck with them. And we went to a very nice posh bar next door. And we had a very nice time, except for the fact that he squeezed both my breasts together like they were cookie dough.
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Her legs are as long as the stairway to heaven. Maybe Ty? Nope.
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Touch them. Or I take their hand and put their hand on the front of me.
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What kind of signals? I touch them. Or I take their hand and put their hand on the front of me. Or I kiss them. I wait for them to kiss me.
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Someone's got to make it, and if they may be too inhibited at the time to do it, hell, I'm going to do it because I'm not going to miss out on a chance of a lifetime.
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Oh, my God. A rip here and a tear there and lips and clothes everywhere has got to be Milton.
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Have you ever? Actually, no, I'd guess Sherry. Definitely Sherry before me. Definitely. You're sure?
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Do you? If I did, it wouldn't be a secret anymore and then it'd kind of blow it, wouldn't it? I don't know, would it?
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We had a very good time, but he also ripped my favorite pirate shirt.
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Go ahead. And Michelle, I had a wonderful time, but it seemed, I don't know. Oh, Ty.
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Clicked until later on, but it was almost too later on. Okay, therefore? I'm picking Ty. Ty, all right.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Gestern war es im Grunde ein Elimination-Spiel, weil wenn du das Spiel zu Hause gewinnst, dann wird die Serie ständig gestaltet. Du gehst zu 6, Steff kann zurückkommen, es ist ein Wunder, Golden State geht in die Western Conference Finals.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Es ist unvergesslich für Jimmy Butler, den Stink zu machen und den Shitstorm zu machen, den er in Miami gemacht hat, um dann zu Golden State zu gehen, um einen tollen Stretch zu haben am Ende der Saison und dann ein 9-Schuss-Spiel zu machen. 9 Schüsse ist, was Buddy Heald nimmt. 9 Schüsse ist, was Kevon Looney nimmt.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Das war ein guter Series für ihn. Sie haben ihn am Ende des Benches gesperrt. Sie haben ihn am Ende des Benches gesperrt, als Jimmy Butler da war. Sie sagten, dass sie ihn nicht spielen wollten. Er hat nicht gespielt. All of a sudden, 30 Punkte hier.
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Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Ich glaube, Steffi wird ihm einen Pass geben.
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Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
You could say that if you take 22 shots and you got 36 points and you lost by 7. That game was 20 out of reach for the entirety of the second half until they start making a run with like 3 minutes left where all the starters were out. But if you're Jimmy, this is how you age. We knew this was going to happen, right? You can't throw yourself at the cup every single time.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Das andere ist, wenn du weißt, dass dein Körper nicht bereit ist oder nicht in der Saison ist, um 18 Treffer zu nehmen und du musst dich auf deinen Jumpshoot konzentrieren, mit dem du die letzten paar Jahre ein schäkiges Verhältnis hattest. Wie kannst du das nicht zumindest versuchen? Neun Versuche sind nichts. Neun Versuche sind lachbar.
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Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Zaz, auf der anderen Seite, wenn wir auf die Wolfen schauen, sehen wir, dass die Wolfen gut aussehen. Julius Randles ist ein Missbrauch, der so groß ist, dass er außerhalb von Nas Reed spielen kann. Wir wissen, dass Gobert ein Defensiv-Stalwart sein wird. Anthony Edwards hat es endlich gemacht.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Er hat nicht wirklich gute ersten Halbzeiten, aber er hat wirklich gute zweiten Halbzeiten in diesen Spielen. Und es fühlt sich so an, als wären sie gesund genug, um gegen jemanden zu kämpfen, der aus der Slugfest auf der anderen Seite kommt.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Other than that, it's been crazy. I mean, how about this, guys? They just fired their coach, though, Denver. They fired Mike Malone.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Es fühlt sich so an, als ob die Top Teams nicht so gut sind.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Because then you have those games that are really, really great and that shows why the NBA Playoff ratings are up. Because it's like, oh yes, this is what I've been searching for.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Ich weiß, worum es geht. Es muss gesagt werden.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Die Boom-Jungs? Nein, sie haben es mitgebracht.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
AJ, Big Boom, Big Justice, Yandel. Das ist viel besser als in der letzten Runde.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Further I say if not. Yeah, I don't know. I thought Mike said it. It means you're an asshole. Put it on the poll at Levittard Show. If you say further I say if not, are you 100% an asshole and also...
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Hat jeder den Drum gesignet? Ich habe gesehen, dass einige Leute den Drum gesignet haben. Hat Dan den Drum gesignet? Ich denke, ja. Ja?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Not only did he not play at all this season. He was technically on our roster in our organization to start the year.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
And it's Mental Health Awareness Month.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
We traded him mid-season. He's not a legend.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
So now what happens, Billy, is you get to that part of the national anthem and there's still people shouting night. Not as many, but it's still loud. It's audible. It's enough to hear and then you always hear the murmuring after of the fans being like, why are we doing this?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Like, do we need to, like, should they put something up before, hey, don't yell night. Like, I'm, it's that bad. Like, I don't know.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
They went to a game a few years ago, they remember night, so they're just like, we're gonna yell it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
If I worked for the Panthers, I would literally be having a team meeting with all the ticket vendors around. Like, when someone walks by you, you tell every person that walks in this door, don't yell no. Ich denke, wenn du den Oschern sagst, dass du einen von ihnen siehst, dann müssen sie gehen. Jede Person, die dir vorbeikommt, sag nicht nein. Das ist ein Zeichen.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Wir haben Seth Jones gewonnen. Du hattest ein Tor am letzten Tag. Das ist das, was sie eigentlich tun sollten. Diese kleinen Intermission-Goldie-Updates. Hey, by the way, guys, don't yell Knight.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
I'd rather them yell Jones instead of Knight. That would at least make, I would be like, alright, we're a smart fan base.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
And Georgie, did he call you Georgie? Did he condescend you extra?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Er hat dich mit öffentlichen Beziehungen verheiratet. Er hat dich öffentlich verheiratet, weil er wusste, wer er war.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Da ist er, Hollywood Insider. Schau ihn dir an, mit dem Hintergrund. Er sieht aus wie Kale. Das ist echt, übrigens. Okay, natürlich. Er liebt den Kale-Smoothie, er ist radierend. Er ist auch ein steigender Star bei ESPN. Und Jorge Sedano ist hier, um die Geschichte zu erzählen, die Zaslo verurteilt.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Würde es ein guter Podcast oder ein weiterer Segment sein, würde ich sagen, wenn nicht. Der meiste kondensierende Sportstück aller Zeiten. Ich fühle mich, als würde man einen von diesen an uns werfen. Aber ich glaube, dass der Basketball selbst, wie ich mich über den Fakt, dass du jemand bist, der wirklich die Nuancen des Spiels liebt, die Strategie. Ja.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Du weißt, wie schmerzhaft das für Boston war, strukturell zu ihrer Franchise. Du weißt, was es bedeutet, dass die Knicks jetzt da sind. Du weißt, dass die Pacers irgendjemanden gewinnen können. Also, ist es dir überhaupt nicht anstrengend, den Sport zu sehen, den Sport zu wachsen?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Und wir haben drei, vier Fragen über die Frage, ob es in der Runde ist, anstatt, Mann, holy shit, der Basketball ist so lustig.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Zaslo, wie würdest du diese Geschichte von Jorge Sedano, der am meisten rebelliert ist in Miami, unverantwortlich und nicht journalistisch klingt?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Das ist nicht wahr, Sedano. Vor zwei Jahren habe ich dir gesagt, dass die Heat nicht in den Playoff kommen muss. Sie müssen in die Draftlotterie. Und dann sehen wir, was passiert. Das passiert nur einmal. No, no, Tony. It's a lottery.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Yeah, I've heard of that. You guys get the sense Sedano's on the take now? You know what I mean? Like, he worked his way up. He was there. He was like the young congressman going to Washington. Who's that guy behind you, Sedano? Get that guy. Hey, that guy's... What's that guy doing?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Yeah, he's not going to bite the hand that feeds him. Come on, get out of here. His Lakers got Luka, and they knew that was part of the arrangement. My Lakers? Yeah, your Lakers. Oh, here we go. Gotta fix that lottery, George.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Silver Lake Sedano, give us the scoop. Silver Lake Sedano, tell the people what you think from your mountain on high.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Und auf eurem Weg raus. Thank you, Sedano. He can't be bothered too busy hiking. Old California Sedano. It's disgusting. He used to be Miami. But why doesn't he live in Miami anymore? Because our buildings don't allow us to do shows without bothering us with a fire alarm the entirety of every conversation we're having.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Jorge, ich glaube nicht, dass jeder hier die Geschichte kennt. Ich glaube, sie sind zu jung, um sie zu erinnern. Das war der erste Moment, an dem Jorge Sedano einen National-Splash gemacht hat. Und ich glaube, es ist sein schlechtestes öffentliches Moment. Habe ich das falsch?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Okay, so I thought I was good with money. Turns out I was really good at ignoring it. Like, how am I spending this much on delivery or Uber or that one shoe store that I buy too many shoes from? Then I started using Monarch Money. And dude, it's a financial wake-up call. Monarch's not just some budgeting app. It's basically your money command center.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
Puts everything, accounts, credit cards, investments into one place automatically. So you're not guessing anymore. And listen, I found stuff I didn't even know I was paying for. Since I started using Monarch, I'm tracking my spending, actually saving, and yeah, even having money check-ins with my wife and we're looking at each other and we're like, yeah, okay, we're all good.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
It makes the hard stuff way easier and over a million households use Monarch. It was named the best budgeting app of 2025 by the Wall Street Journal. So it's not just me hyping up, it's legit, it's real. Real deal Holyfield and get control of all your finances with Monarch Money. Use code DAN at monarchmoney.com in your browser for half off your first year.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: Further I Say If Not
That's 50% off your first year at monarchmoney.com with code DAN. Das ist Code DAN für neue Kunden, um 200 Dollar in Bonusbetten zu bekommen, wenn du nur 5 Dollar bettest. Nur auf DraftKings. Der Krone ist deins.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Thank you, Juju. Let's check in here real quick with my father for just a second because my father has been in the grazing area. Papi, what are you doing out there? Take me through some of the things that you've snacked on out there.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Sugary. Those are those fruit gummies over there? What else did you have? I think I saw you hitting some cashews.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Hey, there's the secret of Billy Gilt. Dad, tell Billy that... Yeah, Billy's always making a run for it, too, you know? I don't know why you had that to say, but okay. Can you get Billy on and just ask him why it is that he was so secretive about his FIU baseball job and this trip that he's taking tomorrow secretly?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Bobby, tell Billy to tell you about whatever he's doing. He's leaving the state tomorrow to celebrate himself in a very unique way. Tell him to tell you about it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
What is it, Billy? What are you doing?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Dad, we don't need that. Dad, we don't need any of that. Back to juju. Dad, all right, back to Juju. Thank you, everybody. We're going to leave the kitchen now. Good executive producing, Chris. We should have never left Juju in the first place, truth be told. Thank you, Billy, for nothing, for just unending nothing. Juju, what was that play for the Orlando Magic again?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
That's it. That's a good poll to update. Is that all we need for the updated polls? Or do you have any other criticism from today's show?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Okay, very good. We look forward to seeing you. Thank you, Juju. I feel like we've crashed your segment by just not doing the polls with him and putting him in meetings instead of, you know...
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
I appreciate you doing that on behalf of the company. I don't think it's necessary for you to fall on the sword that way, but thank you for doing it, Juju, and thank you for updating the one poll, the one nifty poll. Did we ever ask Juju about the big trade in the WNBA?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Check out yesterday's post-game show. I was doing a meeting during the show.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Postgame Show: Spliff Notes (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Thank you, guys. I appreciate it. Yes, an executive meeting that I, the suit, have put everybody in. Thank you, Juju. Good talking to you. Thank you, guys.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Getting Right To The Meat With David Samson
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Getting Right To The Meat With David Samson
So what you're talking about, Dan, and things being politicized, what's interesting about this is like. the communities are sort of split on this. There have actually been several LGBTQ critics of this movie saying things such as it seemed like the filmmaker was painting trans women as liars and GLAAD said it was a profoundly retrograde portrayal of trans women.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Getting Right To The Meat With David Samson
So that's been most of what I have been seeing is actually people criticizing it from that perspective of No, this isn't actually, even though we're using inclusion and using a trans woman as an actor and all of those things, it's actually sort of backwards in some of its ideals there. And so that's, I think, part of what has been the conflict.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Getting Right To The Meat With David Samson
And also that Selena Gomez is not speaking very good Spanish.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Getting Right To The Meat With David Samson
Football season is here, and there is absolutely nothing better than game day. But it can be a little bit stressful. You're placing bets, you're setting fantasy lineups, you're figuring out the most comfortable position to sit on your couch for the next 12 hours. No one has time to think about this part. Cooking. Well, thanks to DoorDash, you don't have to worry about that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 1: Getting Right To The Meat With David Samson
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
PTFO - Wilt Chamberlain and the Conspiracy Factory: We Unearthed the True Story of the 100-Point Game
I don't think that's going to be a word problem for kids. If Wilt Chamberlain is with 10 women on a train headed east. That's right. There you go. That's right.
The Dr. Hyman Show
The Unexpected Dolphin Discovery That May Hold the Key to Longevity | Dr. Stephanie Venn-Watson
Right.
The Dr. Hyman Show
The Unexpected Dolphin Discovery That May Hold the Key to Longevity | Dr. Stephanie Venn-Watson
So please don't do that.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Right.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Yeah.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Yeah, let's do it.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Yeah.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Oh, wow.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Yes.
The Dylan Gemelli Podcast
EPISODE 17: Dylan Gemelli featured on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast with Dr. Amie Hornaman
Right.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
How do you try to win on that?
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
How much was propped up by our money, you know?
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
A lot of that government money has been propping up a left that I don't think is as strong as they made it seem.
The Glenn Beck Program
Senate Republicans Just Caved on Cutting Inflation | Guest: Daniel Horowitz | 2/21/25
Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
This guy, Korchak, he was so brilliant on so many levels. Yeah, I think he had 13 kids and that they were basically his workforce. He built into the rock the staircases. that they needed to take to get to this space. Like the work ethic is mind boggling what they did. And he was a real friend to the Native Americans. And this was a love letter for them and to them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And who was Crazy Horse's, was it Sitting Bear maybe? I forget, but he had all of the, he had enough blessings of the requisite players to embark on this thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But the difference – I mean for me, I called when we brought – We brought Dirty Jobs back during the lockdowns because I just felt like I wanted to be the first show back on the TV, you know, that was shooting. And this was one of the first things that we did. But I started by calling Rushmore. And I'm not telling you the story to make anybody sound bad, but it really just was kind of appalling.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, I said, look, I want to bring my crew and I I'm really I want to tend to this statue, this statuary, this monument. At the time, you know, the headlines were filled with statues being pulled down and being disrespected for any number of reasons, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I'm like, look, I think the Park Service does an amazing duty, and I want to meet the caretakers of our statuary. And I would love, you know, to... to work on this with the people who work on it. And they not only said no, they were like, are you crazy? We would never, we would never permit anything like that. Like, I think they thought it was exploitative somehow. And I'm like, I want America to
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
to learn the story of Rushmore. I want them to learn something about the people memorialized on it. I want them to meet the people who care for it. It's just a love letter to one of our monuments. But it was a hard no. And I really wanted to go to that part of the country. And so I knew Crazy Horse was nearby. And the answer was, oh, yeah, come on out anytime.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And the difference, of course, was Crazy Horse isn't being built with a penny of federal money. It has no federal oversight. It's very personal to this family and the people who are still in charge of it are true custodians of it. It's really interesting when you talk to people who are in charge of a thing that means a lot to other people.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. I mean, some people, I think, see it as a burden. Some as a challenge. Some as an obligation. But for me, you know, the vast majority of Americans are never going to see either one of those monuments in person. So to show them. More people will have just seen what Jamie put up here as a result of this, probably, than will visit in person. And that's amazing, dude.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
When you think about a couple of guys smoking cigars and sipping a coffee and just passing the time, and all of a sudden you're able to learn about the way they drew lots and where we got our energy from just a little while ago. Mm-hmm. This Buffalo Roundup I was telling you about, I mean, there were only a couple thousand of them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, it's a weird sidebar. You go to the Rosedale Public Library and you ask the librarian for the shortest aria. they have ever written, which happened to be by Giacomo Puccini.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And when you think about the accounts of the day, where the buffalo roam was as far as you could see, just thick.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
An aria is a song. In an opera, most of the big moments are arias, right? And most of the arias are, you know, I mean, they're sung by the main characters and there are lots of ones that you would recognize. In German, they're in Italian for the most part. This one was Italian. It was from La Boheme, which is just another version of Rent, essentially.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. Here's the tragedy for me. I narrated a special about all that. I can't remember it, man. Really? I mean, I remember enough of it to know that I narrated it. That's what I told you three hours ago.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Could have been. No, if it was Ken Burns, he always hires Peter Coyote.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But that's what I meant earlier when I'm like, I feel- I don't think there's anything wrong with me yet, but my bucket's full, too. And it's so annoying. Like, I was talking to a friend of mine just yesterday about how the universe works, which is a show I've been narrating for the Science Channel literally for 10 years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And, you know, he knows all of the information in the show, but he thinks because he heard me tell it to him that I know it, too. But I don't. I'm just adjacent to it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I know just enough to, you know, to keep a conversation on its feet. But it's like it's this constant thing, man. I'm older than I've ever been. And it's just nagging at me now because it's like, God damn, I should know. I should have remembered more about Philbrick. I should have remembered more about...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I read that like Bill Clinton's number is... way high like certain people's numbers oh who they can keep in their head like the number of people you can you can keep it probably expands just like the part of your brain expands when you do difficult things it probably expands there's a podcast as you know dedicated to what happened on your podcast
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. There's a podcast out there basically called experience. I don't know what it's called. Experiencing the Joe Rogan experience or something because because there's too much information on your show.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Right. There's just too much. And people who love it get anxious because they can't process all of it. And so like there's an ecosystem. In other words, there's a docent to bring it back to art. This is what we need, I think, more than anything today. We need somebody, like if you're going to go to an art museum, you need somebody to lead you through. I do, anyway. Somebody who can... It helps.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
It helps, man. If you're going to go see... If you're gonna go see a martial arts fight for the first time, if you're gonna go to the Octagon, it'd be better to sit next to you than me, right? Sure.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But it was called the Cote Aria, and it was only two minutes long, and it was in Italian. So I walked around Baltimore with, you remember, the Sony Walkman.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Here, let me show you. Can you feel that? I'm just saying that I think more than ever before, people need a guide. They need somebody to make sense out of all the information. Because I don't think there's any... There's not much new information. It's just accessible in ways we've never seen.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, there's no such thing as an old joke if you hear it for the first time.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
So if I just learn that vitamin D is important but better assimilated with magnesium and K2, I might say that's some new information. But you would go, no, dude, that's old information. You're just learning it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Could also be Philo Farnsworth, who created the television.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Let me say it this way then. There's a body of information that exists that I don't know. And then there's a body of new information that I also don't know because it's new.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And the body of the stuff that I don't know yet that's been around forever...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
is massive massive the new stuff is new and i don't know how big it is but it's not as big no as this incredible repository of stuff like when i walk in a library and look i mean just look at all that stuff man look at this cursed thing here in my hand it's like oh my god if i have an internet connection i have access to 98 of everything that we've ever known yeah
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I had one too, and I listened to a guy named Samuel Ramey singing the coat aria, about two minutes and 40 seconds. And the words didn't mean anything to me, but the sounds did, and I can carry a tune, so I just memorized the sounds. And then I crashed an audition for the Baltimore Opera in 1983.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Now, that either makes you intensely curious or intensely uneasy because now you know. Maybe both. Maybe. But you have it now. If you're not, what are you doing? You're sitting on the toilet. Are you reeling? Are you TikTok-ing? How are you spending the one truly finite resource you have, your time? What are you doing with it, man?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But there's stories, there are buffalo stories and whale stories that are out there, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I'm just, I mean, full disclosure, I'm kind of relieved. I mean, I was getting so annoyed with friends of mine who were like, hey man, why haven't you been on the show? I'm like, maybe, my mother said maybe he's not that into you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
So this company called Sugar Creek up in Ohio made me a truck.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, it started as a 1964 Dodge Power Wagon. Oh. It ended up as this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Because my foundation needs money. So it's going to get a, I don't know what it'll go for. He says a bunch.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Probably cost half a million to make. Wow. Beats me. You know, this is another one of those worlds.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Who knows? But I went up to Columbus to see the garage where they make this thing. And you need to put this on your list of stuff to do when your bucket's not overflowing because a guy called John Richardson, who owns the biggest bacon factory in the country, Sugar Creek. Is crazy automotive freak. He built this giant garage. He hired 27 savants.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And all they do is take classic cars from his sort of quasi junkyard and turn them into these gems. Oh, wow. So he built this for me. And Barrett Jackson said, yeah, we'll auction it off. So I went up there with my crew just to look at it. These guys, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
yeah i'd had a music teacher prior to that like a like a mr holland type of guy who actually changed my life he kind of fixed a stammer that i had and then he forced me to audition for plays that i didn't really want to be in and then the craziest thing ever this guy his name was fred king he was known as king of the barber shoppers he was like a legend in this weird world of acapella singing
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
and he put me in a barbershop quartet when I was in high school and opened up this very weird world of music written long before I was born that I found super interesting. And so my best friends and I we just started learning these ancient songs and singing for people, usually unsolicited, from nursing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, one of them is basically my producer, a guy called Chuck Klausmeier, who I went to high school with, produces my podcast. And we still write, we'll write unauthorized jingles for our sponsors and sing them in four part harmony. I'm not saying it's cool. I'm just saying it's a thing that I did when I was young and I never really shook it. Cause like way leads onto way.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, what really happened was I decided that my toolbox wasn't going to let me work in the construction trades or do anything my pop could do. And he really was a magician, and I really took his advice seriously. So I wanted to be in entertainment. I didn't want to be in the opera. I wanted to be on TV. But I needed an agent. And I couldn't get an agent unless I had my Screen Actors Guild card.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I couldn't get my SAG card unless I had an agent. So I couldn't audition for things that I wanted to do unless I found a way around this weird tautology. And a friend of mine, a guy called Mike Gellert, told me, he said, hey, so there's the Screen Actors Guild. At the time, there was AFTRA, and I'm sure you were part of both. The thing you didn't know about was AGMA.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
That happened with the integrated circuit, right? When Kilby at Radio Shack was doing the same basic work, I think, that Robert Noyce was doing for Intel. And one was here in Texas and the other was in California. And they had never met and they had never compared notes. But the work on the circuitry was so close that they wound up sharing the Nobel Prize.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
The American Guild of Musical Artists is a sister union to the Screen Actors Guild and to AFTRA, who have since combined. And the rule back then was if you could get into any of them, you could simply pay your dues to the other, and then you were in. So for me... it was easier to kind of fake my way into the opera than it was onto a sitcom. So my plan.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, look, I was just trying to get a job. I know, but it's clever. Well, there's always a stage door, right? I mean, there's always a back way in.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And so I thought, you know, I memorized the aria. I auditioned. I was stopped halfway through it by the musical director, a guy named Bill Yannuzzi, who was like, Mr. Rowe, you have no idea what you're saying at all, do you? No. Because you're saying the words wrong.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was singing it loud, and I was singing it like I understood what I was saying. Right. All I really understood was the repertory company was desperate for young men with low voices.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
So whatever. I got into it and my plan was to do one production or one season. Like they would do three shows in a season. And I had some friends who were in the chorus and I was just a chorus member. I'm just holding a spear and just singing along with the rest of the chorus.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And my plan was to do one or two of those, get my card, and then buy my SAG card, and then go about the business of being a famous TV star, right? Simple. Well, the music, man. The music was so much better than I imagined it might be. And when you get up in the catwalks of a real theater, you've done shows in these theaters. There's nothing magically different about them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But when there's a full orchestra... playing the hell out of Verdi or Rachmaninoff, and you're looking down on the scene, and you're looking out at the audience, and the sound is just amazing. And the girls. So there were 80 people, I guess, in the rep company, more or less, 45 women, 35 guys. 30 of the guys had zero interest in 100% of the women.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And of the remaining five straight dudes, three were married. And the only other single guy had a mole the size of your thumb on his eyelid with thick black hair growing out of it. I was really the only straight dude. You were the belle of the ball. And I'm dressed like a Viking or a pirate. And I'm going on stage and I'm a fake. I mean, I admit it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I barely learned the language enough to kind of keep up. And people in the chorus took pity on me, you know. And it was a world, really. It was a world that I didn't know existed. And... Once I saw it, I didn't fall in love with it, but I fell in love with the idea that there were worlds out there that I didn't know anything about and that were maybe more interesting than I thought.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. I mean, I never got out of the chorus. I never had like a, you know, a featured role at a couple lines here and there. But the Baltimore Opera was a big deal looking back at it. And that was for me, 83 to 90. Wow. Yeah. And then since we're talking about. It was a Sunday.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And during the intermission of something, I think it was during this Nibelungen, this giant Wagner, epic, torturous thing. And the chorus didn't have to be. This is the one you saw it on Bugs Bunny. Killed a wabbit, killed a wabbit. It's that one, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Um, so there's an intermission and I'm, I, I'm not needed on stage for like 40 minutes after the intermission. So I go across the street to the Mount Royal Tavern, uh, to drink a beer and watch the football game dressed as a Viking, which I, which I recommend by the way, when you walk in a bar with the horns and the spear. Yeah. The bartender knew me. Everybody laughed, and I sat down.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But the game wasn't on. The bartender was watching a fat guy in a shiny suit selling pots and pans. And it was the early days of the QVC cable shopping channel. I'm like, Rick, why are we watching this? And he says, because I'm auditioning for that guy's job tomorrow morning. QVC was doing a national talent search. Anyway...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
We had a conversation about the end of Western civilization and what it meant for polite society to have a 24 hour infomercial that just never went away. And whether or not, you know, there was any honor at all in auditioning for such a thing. And at that point, I thought it'd be great to have some. Money, you know, I hadn't had any before.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I'm sitting there drinking this beer dressed as a Viking thinking I could probably do that job if I had to. So I went with him the next day and auditioned and got hired.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well. It's a good question. I don't know what became of him. We had a friendly.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
We had a wager. I said, look, I don't know if I'll get the job, but I bet I'll get a call back. He was like, you're not going to get a call back for this thing. You know, we were just actors at the time. We're like people pretending to be actors. He sounds like a hater. You know, he was nice enough. He sang in the opera with me, too. Actually, he also attended bar.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
He just he just wasn't in that one. But, yeah, it it was a very strange thing, man, to that. That was my first job in TV. Look, I've done some minor local commercial stuff, but I talked about a pencil for eight minutes. That was the audition. It was so strange in those days. They didn't have a – like there's no playbook to see who can sell stuff on TV.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Nothing. Here's what happens. Again, it's probably changed today. I think QVC did $8 billion last year. Back in 1989, 1990, it was nothing like that. And if they hired – A salesman, that didn't mean you had anybody who understood really how to behave on TV. And if you hired a TV person, that didn't really mean you. Look at you. Oh, Jesus. That's the cat sack right there, dude.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's just crazy. They just love it. That's why this is a cat toy. I love it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah, yeah. In relative terms, like, that was actually one of the great, one of the true great life lessons. You know, you don't have to be...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
outrageous to stand out you just have to be relatively outrageous so qvc was a steady diet of of men and women right doing the same exact thing all the time right and then at midnight or 3 a.m i showed up and put a cat bag over my head or busted open a lava lamp so you're like a morning dj
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, I would... I mean, for me, I thought of it more like... Like my favorite comedians, and by the way, I saw one last night. Thank you. Ron White was over at the Mothership. He's there tonight, too. I stopped by last night.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
No, I got to get back tonight. Something about Thanksgiving. But I watched his set last night. He's awesome. He was great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And he's gone. He's gone full Messiah, dude. I mean, I didn't recognize him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
He said hello, and I'm like, hey, how are you? I mean... You're back. Jesus. Good to see you. He was great. And and as I watched him do his thing, it it reminded me like my favorite comedians. I I never get the sense that they're trying to make me laugh. I get the sense that they're trying to amuse themselves.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
And that's what makes it comfortable for me to be in the audience, to see somebody who, you know, hey, if I laugh, that's just a happy symptom of whatever it is you're going to do anyway. It makes me comfortable. And that's why he's fun to watch. You know, that's why this podcast is fun to listen to. Same reason. I couldn't have articulated that 35 years ago, sitting there selling a cat sack.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
But you intuitively knew something. Yeah. I knew in the middle of – like everything that it turned out that I needed to know about this crazy business, I learned in the middle of the night on the QVC Cable Shopping Channel over a three-year period trying to make sense.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
So three hours at a time, usually, over the course of 24 hours.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
I do three hours and I go home and, I mean, have you done overnights before? No. So I guarantee you there are a lot of people listening who have worked an overnight shift in their trade, in their vocation. It changes you just as surely as Doris the Cat Lady's brain was scrambled by the Gandhi eye and the toxo. It does something.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's not just that. It is that. But it's something primal, even more primal than that. It just messes with you and it forces you. For me, it like changed colors. It changed taste. It changed. Yeah, because I had never. I mean, I was upside down after I talked about a pencil for eight minutes. I was on the air 48 hours later at three in the morning.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Trying to make sense of the health team, infrared pain reliever and the Amcor negative ion generator. Like what the hell? Did they give you a rundown of what these products were at all? It was up to you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
If you came in a couple hours early and you took the time to look through, like there was a table like this with all of the stuff on it that you were going to be selling and you could take the time to prepare.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
No, what you got was a blue card, usually from the manufacturer, that said a couple of sentences about what the thing was. You had an item number, you had the price, the retail price, the QVC price, and maybe some easy payment terms. All the stuff, right? But it was just a blue card. And then you would kind of go off and...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
think about how you would make sense out of this skull and where it came from and why it's interesting and its feature benefits selling. And if you understand that, you can talk about anything for as long as you need to. You never talk about a feature without talking about its benefit. And so that's kind of how that world worked. So you don't say it's a pencil for 99 cents.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
um with an eraser that is of the exact proportion necessary to last for the life of the pencil so when this thing is down to a nub you'll still have enough eraser left it's really a monument to efficiency and ingenuity and it's not just yellow it's yellow because you're a busy professional when you need a pencil joe when you open up your drawer you don't have time to root around for some
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
vaguely beige-colored writing implement, you want that canary yellow to pop and you can pick it up, right? And it's not – it's a number two pencil. It's not three with that thin, wispy line that you can't read or that thick, disappointing skid mark of a number one, right? So you just like train yourself to fill – dead air with nonsense.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
So it's a kind of, I mean, I would think biological evolution might flirt with that. I read a paper. Guy wrote, name was Patrick House. This was his PhD. And he was talking about Toxoplasma gondii and histoplasmosis. And it was a crazy paper. His real premise was trying to understand the phenomenon of the cat lady and why every culture, like this isn't unique to America.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. While you're wondering like when your next meal is and who you're going to have it with. And you wind up making friends and essentially hanging with other people who live in that same weird like shadow land.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's also a perfect example of a kind of job where you always know how you're doing while you're doing it. Like lots and lots of little visual undeniable cues, right? You got your bags or your baskets full of paper or your car or whatever you were doing. You're tossing them out one at a time. You're making progress. You know the progress you're making. as you make it. Right.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
That's right. And then it's 110. And then it's like people owe it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But see, you remember and you knew. 350, that's an interesting number.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
What are you selling? That was the greatest line from Blazing Saddles, by the way. When Gene Hackman... Which line? He says, cigars? Remember? Peter Boyle has come. He had just left. And Gene Hackman is there after getting the soup spilled in his lap. And he's basically saying, I had cigars. As the creature stomps off in Frankenstein.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Did you start to equate the type of home you were delivering the type of paper to?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
In every culture, you can find a woman who, who, you know, two cats, three cats maybe, but like went all the way to 38, right? And just was like, this is perfectly normal. So his paper was what happens to a person's brain to tell it it's normal to have 38 cats. And then it gets super complicated because he identifies a gondii that lives in the cat's And and basically breeds there.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's funny. We had the Baltimore Sun, which was the paper of record. And then we had the News American, which was sort of like the upstart. And I never thought too much about the difference between the two until Summertime and Crabs. Like Maryland blue crabs are a big thing. They're a big thing in my family, big thing where I grew up.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And everybody who eats crabs in the summer eats them outside on a picnic table.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
No. No, it's better. No, I think it's a mark of respect. It's like, oh, we're having crabs? Get the News American.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Get the News America. Because, you know, it's all spread out in front of you. And you got the crab guts and the Old Bay and the J-O number two and the National Bohemian Beer. And maybe you can glance down and get informed as you go.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Dude, it's amazing. It's amazing. I had an old girlfriend whose sister worked there, worked for Page Six.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They have a hallway. It's like this place in the center. There's so much on the walls, but it's all front pages and it's the best headlines.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
The best ones ever. Starting with the classic headless body found in topless bar. Yeah. Which is still tough to beat.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
This is the point I was trying to make about the comedian who entertains himself first and the schmuck on QVC who tries to keep himself awake before he sells the thing. That's how I felt reading the post. It was like, these guys, somehow, I'm imagining a meeting. They're laughing. They're cigars, and they're all in on the joke. They're like, yeah, we're going to report the news, but...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, it's a lot of sharp elbows out there and it's a very competitive world. So what can we do to maybe get the stick a little, you know, out of our ass? Just a little bit. You know, how can we be different? That's what fascinates me.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, how could whether you're publishing a paper or eating a blue crab, you know, or writing a book or a song, you know. How can you in relative terms distinguish yourself, not from these other worlds and other categories, but from your friends? Right. That's the trick, man.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I said to Ashton, your very excellent driver who brought me here, I said, you know, it's been fun watching Joe do this thing over the last five or six years. And then I kind of stopped myself in the middle and I said, actually, you know, I take it back. What's been fun is watching Ashton.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
watching the world catch up to it, like watching the headlines catch up to you or whoever you really haven't changed. And man, it's so interesting to, to watch people realize, oh, we're gonna do it this way now. We're gonna do it this way now. And that's been, whether it's comedy or whether it's music, when culture changes,
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It feels like there's some instigator, some jagged little pill who's pushing it forward. And I guess maybe that's true. But I also think there's this larger hive mentality in the audience. And they start to realize, oh, there's another way to deliver a paper. There's another way to do a thing. And it feels new, but it's probably what you've been doing for the last 12 years.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And what he learned was when the cats were crapping, the the Gandhi I would would come out and then the rats and the mice that ate the cat crap would. Something was happening to their brains on a neurological level. This gondii basically disabled the part of the brain that would tell an otherwise sentient rat to run from the cat. But suddenly they weren't running.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah, but it's just because it's simple, right? You make it sound like a parenthetical. Oh, it's just a conversation.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But again, it makes perfect sense. And it's not that it's difficult. It's just that very few people do it. And if your explanation is because very few people genuinely enjoy it, I can't disprove it. You're probably right.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, here's what I don't understand. and maybe this is not even relevant, but we did 350 dirty jobs, probably 60-some of this thing called Somebody's Gotta Do It. I don't even know. Returning the Favor, I think we did 100 episodes of that. I couldn't tell you how many things I've narrated. Hundreds. If there's a wildebeest trying to get across the vast reaches of the barren Serengeti, right?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Like, if I could remember every episode of How the Universe Works, ten years of this stuff, if I could remember half of what I narrated, that would be something. I can remember a chunk. But my sense is that I can't even remember the last 20 guests I had on my podcast. And the reason isn't because I'm not curious. And it's not because I'm not...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Because I lack the requisite intelligence to remember. For me, it's just so much. There's been no time to think about what I'm going to do next and even less time to think about what I just did.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And then you talked to the musician guy, Storch? Yep. Yeah, right? Scott. Yeah, Scott. Storch. And then before that, our friend Evan was in. Right. So like I have a better it's easier for me to remember what you've done in the last two months than it is for me. And that freaks me out.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I wonder if sometimes you get over your skis to the point where you where you've started to forget what you've done yourself.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Is it conscious? Like, can you choose to be interested in a thing enough to know that you're not going to forget it? Or does the interest just kind of bubble up and certain things stick to you?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They became prey and they became docile. And the cat started obliterating the mice and rat population because this thing that was breeding in its ass died.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
See, you, to me, are the deeper end of the pool. I'm more the shallow end. I don't mean for that to sound comparative so much, but like with martial arts, I'm interested in martial arts. I'm interested in ultimate fighting. I narrated The Ultimate Fighter. I did 10 seasons of it. But that's sort of the extent. I don't go very deep.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
was effectively making its prey easier to catch so dr house thought well you know we've all heard about why pregnant women should stay away from cats because that that can have an effect and a rat's brain and a human brain have a surprising number of of parallels so he basically postulated that you know doris the cat lady was living a fairly normal life until she kind
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So this is my point. You take a deep dive. When you get interested in a thing, you go into the thing. Comedy wasn't a hobby. It became, I think, as important.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It becomes everything. Almost nothing I do becomes everything.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I don't have hobbies and I don't collect things. No hobbies? No hobbies.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
This is the difference. You're insatiable in that way. You get a thing and you're going to nail it to the wall, man.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, you and Tony were similar, obviously, in that way. He took big bites. He took big swings.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
We got you and they come over and bring food and you know, I wrote a eulogy for him that crashed my website It's really funny I only I met him twice and Each time it was fairly brief But there was a time when he was doing No Reservations, Dirty Jobs was early on. I bet you Fear Factor was still in production then, too.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah, he was on in six. For sure, Dirty Jobs went on in 03.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I've never, this will sound vainglorious, and I don't mean it to, but with the possible exception of me on Discovery in 2010, narrating half their shows and hosting Dirty Jobs, which was a thing, you know, I felt really triangulated then. But then when I met Tony, and I had a show on CNN at the same time. Actually, it was a companion show.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
just a little bit of cat shit on her fingers and ate it. And the Gandhiite disabled the part of her brain that said, hey, maybe two cats is enough.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And Jeff Zucker wanted something with Tony. So he was like, well, let's kind of do a version of this. And I said, yeah, okay. But all the trouble in the world, man, every crisis, whether it's Haiti or whether it's a riot, you know, the show got preempted constantly. They didn't preempt Tony, but they preempted me a lot. Yeah. And I was commiserating with Tony about this once.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And that's when we had the conversation where I said, look, I just got to tell you, man, I have never in my life seen anybody doing the right show for them at the right time on the right network for them. I've never seen that like that before. And never mind the award. It was the Peabody's that got me, actually. Who cares about the Emmys?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They're easy, but geez, he was just one Peabody award after the next. And it wasn't a huge, the audience wasn't as big as people think, but they were engaged.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
What what did you what was the big lesson from news radio if there was one for you?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's like watching the Beatles at the Ed Sullivan Theater. People are like, what's wrong with you people?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I thought for years that really a sitcom had to be the best gig in the world to have to do a basically to do a play every week.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It was their number one show, and they canceled it, and Fox picked it up.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. Wow. I mean, that basically happened to Dirty Jobs, too. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's it's mind boggling. But but the point was, I finally got a chance to I don't want to gloss over that. I want to come back to that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
All right. Yeah. Yeah. Now that's a great one. You'll you'll love this. But but to Tim is great, by the way. And we became friends and and chemistry on camera. Everybody loved it. And when it was over, I was like, well, you know, do an honest inventory, Mike. Like what did you love? What didn't you love?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And really the only thing I loved was seeing people who loved each other and being welcomed into their little world.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Everything, like the idea that somebody else is writing lines for me, I know that sounds impossibly ridiculous. But I was so used to nobody writes for me. Dirty Jobs is truly unscripted. Everything I ever did, there were never any lines. So that's an alien experience for you. Yeah. I mean, I'd done plenty of plays as a kid and stuff, but that's different. You know, that's a that's different.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Once you're in Hollywood and once you're sort of in the machine. It still lingers. I mean, it's the whole reason I crashed the audition for the opera. I was just trying to find a sitcom at some point somewhere. And then when I when I finally got it, you know, I realized just how lucky I'd been prior to that and how here you want this and and how. Crap, man.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, a thing can live in your mind so much bigger than it is in in reality. And so while I love doing it for that week, I said to my business partner over that this thing that I used to think of as the single most efficient way to make a living was so wildly inefficient. It takes four days to rehearse for a half-hour thing. You've got to be kidding me.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I could do five one-hour shows in the same period of time.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I read and I think I got more of these. I don't want to compete. I'm going to lose. But you'll love this. You probably already know it. Homeostatic risk and risk equilibrium and the unintended consequences, especially with motorcycle riders that emanate from safety protocols gone too far. Really? Yeah.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So I never had an agent except for a very brief period when I did. And it was, you know, Sean Perry over at Endeavor. You guys ever cross paths? I know. His former assistant turned out to be his wife later. How's that work? Nicole Taylor. Man, they're living great. They live up in the hills somewhere.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
She called me one day and I was in my in my full on freelance world. I hadn't had a job since since QVC. So this is like 1999. And she says, I just want to I just want to send you out for for something because I know you're going to book it. And I said, well, actually, yeah, I could use a gig.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So she sends me out, uh, in the same week, she says, you should read for a Craig Peligian over at, uh, pilgrim films. He's doing something called worst case scenario and he's looking for a host. And so I auditioned for that. And then later that week, uh, she says this guy from, uh, uh, Nashville, Michael Orkin was his name who I had worked with years earlier, not Nashville, Memphis. Uh,
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
He was hosting the EP on that evening magazine thing that I mentioned. And he's ready to hire you based off your blooper tape. I never had a tape either. My whole audition reel in those days was a compilation of every moment that went off the rails at QVC. All the things that led to my eventual firings as well as the cat sack and all the other crap. I dare you to hire me.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I got hired for both jobs that week. Both jobs. And so suddenly I'm working for TBS hosting Worst Case Scenario, which lived up to its name. And then I'm up in San Francisco hosting Evening Magazine.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. And then Nicole switched agencies and I never really had an agent. You know, prior to that or since. That's fortunate. Super fortunate.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know what's fortunate, man? Remember, okay, so my mother calls me. I'm at Evening Magazine sitting in my cubicle. My dad, my granddad's 90 years old. Remember this? I didn't close the loop on this. But that's, to answer your first question, what happened was my mom called me and said, your grandfather's going to be 90 tomorrow.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So like every like if you study the way you drive your motorcycle, like you measure every decision that you make in terms of cornering and speed and braking and all that stuff. Yeah. And then you measure the same things with all the safety gear employed, including a helmet, especially a helmet. You drive faster. You corner tighter.
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And before he dies, wouldn't it be great if he could turn on the TV and see you doing something that looked like work?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
my mother wrote every day for 60 years wow no agent no got published in like the news american and the baltimore sun you know local stuff some horse magazines we were horse people kind of growing up and uh and her her dream was to write she finally got a book deal when she was 80. went to a uh number four bestseller wow and everything she's written so far So, that's recently.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Back in whatever it was, 2001, she was just a pain in my ass. And she called me to say, you know, wouldn't it be great if your granddad, this guy whose shadow I grew up in, you know, could see you doing something? Because like my pop, he'd seen the opera. He'd seen QVC. He'd seen every godforsaken infomercial. He'd seen...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, I'd done a lot of things, probably 200 jobs in the whole freelance world. And so I was 42 and I took my cameraman from Evening Magazine into the sewer of San Francisco the next day to host the show from a sewer. And what happened in the sewer job was, I mean, it changed. I wrote a book about it. It changed my whole life. The roaches are the size of your thumbs.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
There are millions of them, and they crawl all over you. The shit comes at you in a chocolate. tide of unending disappointment. And it's filled not just with all the stuff that comes out of your body. It's filled with stuff that comes out of your medicine cabinet, plastic products and rubber, private condoms stuck to your rubber suit. You know, it's unspeakably vile. You can barely breathe.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And what happened to me down there is I completely failed to host the show. All the stand-ups went wrong. Laterals exploded. We were all getting hit in the head. It was like a shooting gallery. There was a rat the size of a loaf of bread that crawled up my... I lost my footing, fell into... I was baptized.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was baptized in a river of crap. And at the end, my cameraman threw up at one point. An enormous puke. And I'm squatting in the filth, you know, looking at the camera trying to open the show. And when you see your cameraman's vomit float past you. as you're trying to articulate a thought. And meanwhile, the guy who was like my minder was an actual sewer inspector.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And he's in the background trying to do his job, which is to hammer out the old bricks that are rotting and replace them with new ones. Now it's 105 degrees. It's the seventh level of hell. It's clear I can't do my job. So I go over to this guy. His name was Gene Cruz. And I say, hey, what are you doing? He's like, I'm putting bricks in. I said, you need a hand.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So I start mixing the mortar and we start talking just like people, you know, not like a hosty thing. Right. Like what you were saying, just what would happen if you had an honest conversation, totally unscripted with a guy who didn't really know he was going to be on camera? But what if you film it and put it on TV anyway? What would happen? Yeah.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, what happened a week later when this thing finally aired was I was fired because people sitting down to hear their heart tugging story of the three legged dog up in Marin overcoming canine kidney failure. And it's me, a smart ass 42 year old crawling through a river of crap. I mean, they're trying to eat their meatloaf. You know, it was the wrong segment for that for that show. But.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You take more chances because the risk equilibrium that we all have in our brain. is different from one person to the next but what's the same is our desire to compensate for the environment around us so compensatory risk and the subconscious decisions that we might make behind the wheel when we're buckled up versus not buckled up when we have abs breaks As opposed to not having them.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Talk about fortunate. The mail that came in as a result, some people said it was funny and they liked it. Some people were repulsed. But the letters that changed my life were the ones that said, you think that was dirty? Wait till you see what my brother does. Wait till you see what my cousin does. My mom, my sister, my uncle, right? And I'm like, oh, my God.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
There's... I mean, if the Bay Area is any kind of a microcosm for the country, and I'm not saying it is, but from a TV standpoint, I was like... This is new. No, I've never seen feedback like this. I've never seen curiosity among the viewership like this. And so that's where the idea came from. Ah.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was like, what if the viewer programs the show, A, and what if, B, the host of the show is the person that I meet who welcomes me into their shithole or wherever they work? And what if I'm not a host after all? After 20 years of impersonating a host... What if I'm a guest or an apprentice or an avatar or a cypher, right?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
What if I just think of myself differently than this guy who hits the mark and looks at the camera and tells you the cat sack is 29. I mean, what if you just let all that go? And, you know, I don't know that I would have thought of it like that at 20, at 22, certainly not, not even at 32, but at 42, I was entering a more introspective kind of phase. Yeah.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And so I was really just curious to see what would happen if I thought of myself as something different.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Quick sidebar. I don't know if this is of interest. And Jamie, forgive me. Because I don't know if I'm supposed to ask you to do things. But I sold the first karaoke machine.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. Oh, let's see that. It's out there. I'm not proud of it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
That's a statistic. It was like 12.15 in the morning, you know, and they sent me one of these things to my apartment. And I'm like, what? Is this even possible? Like, look, they're everywhere now, obviously. We've gone through the whole period.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They did a big survey in Berlin years ago where they took half of the taxis and they put in state-of-the-art braking systems in half of them and left the others the same. And then they hooked up the cars to monitor every driver decision and in virtually every case. The drivers with the better safety gear took more chances because their brain is subconsciously compensating. Ah. Right? Makes sense.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah, but you know what? There's something more trustworthy about rudimentary production value.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was talking to a guy, Bruce, about this earlier. He was saying how much he loves, like, Antique Roadshow and This Old House.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was on This Old House. Were you? Yeah, man. They invited me on. They wanted to raise money to reinvigorate the trades. They had a very similar cause as I do today. And they got all these advertisers lined up. And then the guy in charge said, well, Mike's doing the same basic thing. Let's call him and maybe we should just give him the money and let his foundation give it away.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It'll be simpler than starting a new thing. And they called and I said, yeah, I'll do that, sure. But I'd like to be on your show. And they're like, that'd be great. So they invited me on and it was awesome. But my point is. Part of the charm of those shows is the almost remedial simplicity of the production. It's like there's an entrance.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
When's the last time you saw it dissolve? Right. Right? Like all that stuff. And I used to make fun of it. I used to make fun of QVC. I still do. But but in reality, man, that there was something strangely comforting about that kind of production value and everything I learned that turned out to be useful. You know, I learned in the middle of the night.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Here's a thesis. At least in the world of nonfiction, this doesn't apply to scripted, but production... is by definition the enemy of authenticity, right? It's the enemy of it. You need it in order to have a finished product, but when you get in your own way, then you get in the viewer's way.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And one of the things that kept Dirty Jobs on the air for 20 years, early on, I kind of realized that, and I wasn't sure what to do about it, but I thought... Maybe we need to think of the show like a documentary. So we got a behind-the-scenes camera. that never stopped rolling.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And so if my mic pack went out or if a plane flew over or if somebody screwed something up or if we had to stop for whatever reason, I always knew there was a truth cam. That's what I called it. And I could always look to it and I could say, all right, well, what happened here? Blah, blah, blah. And so it was those moments where I think the viewer realized, oh, oh, he's not,
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
He's not trying to sell me anything, at least not here. He's letting us see the sausage. And that was new in nonfiction. That was a whole new way to think about authenticity. Vivek Ramaswamy was the only candidate I invited onto my podcast because I read somewhere that he said if he was nominated, he vowed to never use a teleprompter. to deliver a speech.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Whether you can pull it off or not, I just thought that was so interesting. And I wanted to talk to him about that specifically. And then it's funny, a year later, you know, I think the teleprompter is probably the best example of one forced error after the next. Like when you think about the anchor, Right. And so, like, the cognitive dissonance is rich, you know.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah, I mean, it's controversial, but I... I understand it. It's why the most dangerous intersections have signs that tell you when to walk and when not to walk and have crosswalks. Because the little man is walking. It says go. So you step off and there's the big blue bus and then you're spattered.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I just think we've entered into this world where, like, the least persuasive thing you can do is say, trust me or take it from me. You know, people have just been burned so much that they're going to need – We need a truth cam. We need it in the newsroom, not just in a sewer. I mean, it worked there, but we need it everywhere.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's a weird dichotomy, though, right? Like skepticism. Look, we have to be skeptical.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But part of the reason we have to be as skeptical as we are is because so much of the media has abdicated on skepticism. And they've become something else, you know, something else. And so, you know, you can't really blame people for, you know, considering what we used to dismiss as a conspiracy theory.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So, yeah, the unintended consequences of following traditional safety protocols, you know, has always really been interesting. Yeah.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
When the theories start to get borne out and when there's such a level of eroded trust in once credible institutions.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's actually for people when you think about it that way. Like if the audience becomes its own amalgam. I think of it like that. I think the audience gets short shrifted a lot. I thought of it last night in your club. It's like the audience is, I mean, without the audience, what are you doing?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But don't you think? That that's you are the proxy for the audience when you're at your best. Yeah, for sure. In my view.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
When I'm listening to you, when I like high five you virtually, it's when you ask the question I was thinking. And I really tried to do that in the sewer. I really tried to do that on dirty jobs. I really tried.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So, yes, thanks. But then all of a sudden I look up and Donald Trump's in the sewer with me. Oh, shit. And there's an election in a week. Oh, the stakes around me. Right. All of a sudden have changed. So it's so interesting that he was sitting right where I'm sitting.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And you feel the need to kind of put some sides on this thing because you understand, first and foremost, that as an audience member. Right. As somebody who's just listening to this as a fly on the wall, I'm getting a little lost.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Right. So, I mean, you can say that, hey, that's Joe being a good host or that's Joe being super honest in a conversation where he's starting to drift a little bit.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
When you realize you're in the middle of a sentence with no obvious ending.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Right. And when the teleprompter breaks, that's when you get to know the person. Right. And so that's why I'm asking. I don't. I wonder, you know, I mean, I listened to the interview and I asked myself, well, is anybody going to vote differently as a result? I don't think so. Are some people going to vote who otherwise might not have voted? Maybe.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But for me, when you started to talk very casually about the fact that her campaign had stipulations, they had...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I think it's a slightly different analysis. If you're going to adjust your behavior consciously to adapt to the externality, right? You're going to drive faster if you have a fast car because you know— That's why the guy built the thing. And it would almost be rude, right? It would be rude to drive a hot rod like a boat.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Do you see a difference between an immigrant and a settler?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So, yeah, man, there are a lot of ways to go with all this, but I'll just come back to the teleprompter and say, if that's an essential part of how you communicate and if that's an accent, if that's part of your image, you know, then you you can't be on this show.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You can't. You can't join me in the sewer. Right, right. There's no room for the contrivance. There's just no room. There's just no time.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
That's what I meant by production becomes the enemy of authenticity.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
When you rely upon it to the point where you can't function in the midst or in the wake of a glitch. Well, in a world of glitches, you're in trouble. Right. And I think the audience, not just yours, but the country, I just think they're just exhausted by people who have been managed and focus grouped and weighed and measured and tested and then put out there.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's the unconscious things that you do when you assume or mitigate risk as a result of employing an externality that I think is important. It's just super interesting.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So like the even the look, the changes in podcasting, like it's happening right now, right in front of us. You can see so many different types of podcasts.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
See so many different kinds of scripted dramas. I mean, oh, my God.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Can you imagine Breaking Bad? Right. Right. 30 years ago.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's impossible. Right. A whole lot of things had to happen in front of that for for that thing to the Sopranos had happened. That's right. And something had to happen before that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, in my world and in the world you're describing, that was the age of authority. That's when Eric Severide could talk to you like this. That's when... Yeah. Like... Like Discovery is a good example. You asked about it, and I'll tell you, first of all, John Hendricks, a friend of mine who created that channel, you would love. He did this in his garage, basically.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I mean, the story's incredible, how he talked Malone into getting some transponder space for maybe his Westinghouse and mortgaged his house to buy some documentaries from Australia and started beaming all that stuff down. I asked him years ago, I'm like, what was the guiding principle behind this business model? And of course, Discovery has since purchased Warner Brothers.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They're the biggest entertainment company in the world today. And it started with John Hendricks saying one goal, to satisfy curiosity.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Everything I do must line up with a traditional definition of what a discovery is. It's the satisfying of curiosity. And so when I pitched Dirty Jobs... I was coming in on the heels of what you're talking about. There was still in nonfiction, it was Richard Attenborough. It was Jacques Cousteau. It was Jane Goodall.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It was, you know, the Discovery brand was very much a reflection of some of the greatest naturalists and historians and, you know, astrophysicists in the world. They deferred
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, because if it's right, Joe, if it's right, what it does is it turns all the safety first protocols, not necessarily on their head, but this happened in Dirty Jobs. I did a whole special called Safety Third because safety isn't really first, not really, ever.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
to experts and then they hired guys like me to narrate shows and we could sound even more official and so you you had this dance this production dance where you had a credible sounding voice uh and an expert at the center of the thing Dirty jobs was not that. Dirty jobs was what if the expert is a septic tank technician or a welder? What if the expert is a skull cleaner or a golf ball retrievest?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's a job. Or a sheep castrator, an oral sheep castrator, which we can get into if you want. Like, what if they become... Your source of credible information. And what if the host somehow morphs from this authoritarian expert into a guest with a bunch of questions? So this conversation happened between me and some of the guys over there in 2003. And they bought it. They didn't like Dirty Jobs.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They took it really to shut me up. They wanted three episodes and out. The deal I made with these guys was rooted in this paradigm of me saying, Send me out into the world to go on adventures. And don't ask me to know more than I know, but just let me look under the rock and let's learn together. And so they said, okay, we're going to, you know, you'll go to the Titanic with James Cameron.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You'll climb Kilimanjaro. You went to the Titanic? No. Very nearly. It was canceled a month before. Because Dirty Jobs finally hit. But prior to that, I went to Egypt. I was exploring tombs with Zahi Hawass. I was at the pyramids. I was in some of the greatest, the largest undiscovered graveyard in Bawiti, the Sands of the Dead, where they found the mummies with the golden masks.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And nobody knew who the hell they were because it wasn't attached to any dynasty. And Who are all these people with golden masks on their faces? And so Discovery would send me to do these shows, and they were great. Meanwhile, this hot mess that looked like a German porno called Dirty Jobs winds up on the air, and it rates like through the roof. But the problem in 2004 was that
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And this is a kind of cognitive dissonance that always is super interesting, right? When a big company or a brand or a political party or really anybody realizes that the thing their audience wants is not the thing they want them to want. That's amazing.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And most of the time when it happens, you know, you just walk up behind the barn and shoot it, and you never hear about it. But Dirty Jobs actually got on the air before it was shelved for a year. And it was during that year that I went on a series of adventures for the network doing this other thing.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It was shelved because it was deemed off brand. It was shelved because I was biting the testicles off of lambs with ranchers. And that's how they castrate their lambs. They have for hundreds of years. It was not not that specific episode that that got me in trouble later. But it was shelved because it was an unscripted. random romp. We never did a second take on the show. It didn't look.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It didn't look like anything else on the network. It was just a jagged little pill. But they liked me and they liked this idea of a more unscripted look at the world. And so we reached this kind of detente and I started narrating all their tentpole shows and then I went to Alaska to host Deadliest Catch. which is a whole nother story, that crab fishing show. That's 21 years now, right?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And up there, people died. That's a crazy job. People died. And I went to six funerals in six weeks. And when we looked at the footage of that, And somebody up the food chain eventually decided, okay, this is a world we have to get into, but Mike, you're not hosting two shows at the same time, so pick one.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So Dirty Jobs came back, went into full production late in 2004, and Deadliest Catch went in full production about the same time, but I just narrated. Moral of the story is, everything that happened After that and around that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I'm not saying because of it, but right around that same time, I think the media world, in nonfiction anyhow, began this migration from the age of authority into the age of authenticity. And ever since, nonfiction has been grappling with that just as surely as every other vertical. Because... people want to see something that feels like the truth. And that's, that's a sliding scale.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Okay. I think, for me, the moment that crystallizes all of this, and he and I were on... parallel paths. I think he was dealing with his network, the travel channel at the time, the same way I was dealing with discovery. We were, we were constantly at each other's throats trying to navigate this, this weird line of reality and authenticity. And there's a, there's a scene in parts unknown.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
That's right. Look, I mean, for me, it was really a it took two years to kind of puzzle it through because on dirty jobs for the first two years, nobody got hurt. You know, we were and we sat through probably 50 mandatory safety briefings, whether it's mines or confined spaces or high spaces or lockout, tag out. All those protocols and procedures were super intense and.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's one of the single greatest moments in the history of nonfiction.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I would do that for a scene, maybe even for an act, maybe even for a whole segment. Maybe if I got like a bee in my bonnet and I really just couldn't, you know. I got angry every now and then and I, you know. But Tony, dude, he went out and got drunk. I mean, drunk, drunk and shot the whole show smashed. And he made them cut it in. And you can see him. He's so disgusted.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Just so you're just so the audience understands. Right. They're supposed to be spearfishing for octopi. And the local handler wasn't sure that they were going to find any. So he bought some at the market. But they were frozen and dead. And so Tony's down there with his spear gun with some other diver. And these frozen squid just start to come by him.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And in narration, this is where he really owned it. Because he owned that show. Nobody's going to tell him what to say. So his real rant... Happens months later in the vo booth when he's just describing the heartbreaking Insincerity don't don't they know who I am. What did they think I was gonna do, right?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
so that's like he says something like it in the face of this kind of wanton deception a Reasonable man can turn to nothing but the elixir of distilled alcohol And he just drinks for the rest of the show And it airs. Yeah. It airs on CNN. Yeah. And I think it won a Peabody.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Look, I'm pretty sure it was Parts Unknown. I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah, and God, I just, I mean, that's what I wrote about when he died. It was that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. Because, man, I've been sitting on a Zodiac. I've done that. I've been in this world where you're nervous. You've got a lot of stuff to worry about. And then somebody just comes along and tries to produce a moment.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Probably right. But I got to think there's somebody there in his crew, somebody over from 0.0, the production company. Somebody must have, you know.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But look, the fact that that happened is wonderful. The fact that he was able to insist that it air, that was important. Yeah. That was important.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They're also craftsmen. Mm-hmm. Like, I mean, to me, yeah, food is art. It sure can be. And it can also be fuel.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And we were really, really focused on coming home alive and in one piece. So we really paid attention. But after two years of these mandatory compulsory meetings and all of these procedures... We all started getting hurt. I mean, nothing serious, but broken fingers and a cracked rib and singed off my eyebrows and my eyelashes and mild concussions and things like that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
He sent me a video the other day. He went on a big hunt with his boy.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I just think, you know, if you're – whatever canvas you're in front of, whether you're painting or whether you're cooking or whether you're stalking, like you can – the muse, like does the muse come to you when you're stalking? Does it come to you, you know – I don't have an answer for it, but I know that people talk about it. Like some people say, well, you're in the zone.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Sometimes when I write, I'm surprised. Just the other day, I started writing something on the tarmac of SFO, and when I looked up, I was at JFK. It was like that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I like a little distraction. Look, I wrote a book on a plane. I believe it. I really did. And I did it mostly in moments that I don't really remember when time gets compressed. And I think that can happen when you're fabricating something, when you're hunting something, when you're painting something, maybe in the middle of a set, maybe in the middle of a fight.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, I talk to boxers who say that it's so odd the way, Things will sometimes almost feel like they're in slow motion, even though they're happening so fast.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was like, what the hell's happening? What was happening is the safety experts in all of these mandatory meetings started to sound like Remember Charlie Brown's teacher? Mrs. Othmar. We were just falling asleep. Right. So it was like, holy crap, we're in compliance, but we are not out of danger.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
he's such a great dog he's got i mean he's adorable i mean it's it's such a personality thing at that for me with dogs and pets in general you know like you know right away if this thing has a personality oh he's got a lot of carl's got a lot of personality yeah there's no doubt about that yeah and a little kid and a person name which i think is super interesting mine's freddie he's a terrier i like a dog with a person yeah me too like fido what the is a fido no one knows
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, think baseball, too. I mean, it's everything. Louis Tion. Remember the pitcher? I don't really follow baseball. You'll love this, Jamie.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You will. One day you're going to look at a baseball game and go, hey, you know what I need to do? I need to play professional baseball. And then five years later, we're going to be reading about it because you're going to go crazy with it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Louis Tion was a pitcher. And his windup was such that it looked sort of traditional. But then he turned his back to the batter without leaving the rubber. Right. So this guy would spin all the way around before he threw. And he'd go further than that sometimes.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. Because he just breaks. He stops looking at you. Look at his back.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
That's crazy. That's exactly it. So it's like, oh, you know, if you're a batter, you're like, all right, there are a lot of different pitchers, and I'll get used to this, and I'll get used to that, and then this guy comes along.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. Yeah, you would actually, I'm surprised you're not into baseball.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And so that begs the question, what happens to a normal person who actually comes to believe either on the job site or just in life? that somebody else cares more about their well-being than they do. And it's like that's when complacency rears its ugly head. So on Dirty Jobs, it was just shorthand among the crew, but it was always safety third, which meant heads up, man.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's interesting, man. You've had a front row seat to watching that sport become as dominant as it is. At the same time, you're watching the podcast world blow up in a really similar way.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And back to the art thing, you must be willing to give it away. Whatever it is you love, you must be willing to give it away for a time at least.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Keep your head on a swivel. You can be as compliant as you want, but in the end, if you don't want to fall off the bridge, it's kind of on you.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Nevertheless, you know, I mean, it was the same thing with Dirty Jobs. Once that thing lit up, I had to be willing to sign a contract. It was probably illegal. I mean, it was such a ridiculous contract, the way they own you. Yeah, isn't it crazy? It's like no money, but if it's a hit, if it sticks... We have you for 10 years. Or you renegotiate. My ace in the hole with Dirty Jobs was...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Technically, I was the host. And I can host that show without doing the thing in the show that made people watch.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
There's no contract that can force you to bite the balls off a sheep.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Right. You have to be willing to do that. And so I was able to fix that. But Dana, I'm trying to remember what year this would have been. When did The Ultimate Fighter... 2005. Okay. So in 2004... Dirty Jobs was on the air. It was in that weird space where we didn't know if it was going to be a hit or what. But I was narrating all kinds of stuff for this guy, Craig Peligian.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I walked into Craig's office in Hollywood, and Dana was sitting in there. I had no idea who he was. I just walked in to say hi, and Dana kind of knew me or recognized me. And Craig said, hey, this guy, Mike, he's narrating American Chopper, American Hot Rod. He just goes down the list, and Dana says, say something. And I... And I said, previously on The Ultimate Fighter.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, you wouldn't be sitting here now if your lease wasn't up or whatever.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I think the art thing, we should not be done with that yet. There's something, I'm thinking about the clips you were playing. What do they call boxing? The sweet science. Yeah. So like art and science. I think anybody who's passionate about what they do can approach what they do like a scientist or like an artist. Or maybe both. Or maybe both. I think both.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So, you know, I've got this foundation that evolved out of Dirty Jobs. It's called MicroWorks. And we award these scholarships to people who don't want to go to a four-year school but who want to learn a trade. Right? We've been doing it for 16 years. And I started doing it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
in part, for my granddad, but mostly because there are, what, 8 million jobs now that don't require a four-year degree, and there's $1.7 trillion in student loans on the books, right, that is just bananas, and we've got these huge shortages in the skilled trades. So I spent a lot of time talking about How that happened and what might be done to fix it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But regarding art, it's like you're old enough to remember wood shop and metal shop. Sure. You know, before it was shop, it was... It wasn't just vo-tech. It turned into vo-tech. But before it was vo-tech, it was the vocational arts. That's what they called it. And so we didn't just get rid of the vocational arts. We started with the language and we took art out of it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And that's when it became VOTEC. And then there were a bunch of other acronyms and abbreviations and hyphenations and so forth.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
How much do you think about that? proper driving technique when you're sitting in the back on your laptop or even up front next to it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, you know, I very rarely play the devil's advocate in this argument, but I do think I know why it happened, or at least how. And I was in high school in the late 70s, and there was a very concerted push for what we call higher ed, which, by the way, already sets the table, right?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
If it's higher ed over here, I guess we have lower ed over here.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
The language is awful. Yeah. But the PR, and to be fair, in the 50s, 60s, 70s, we needed more doctors. We needed more engineers. We needed more people matriculating through four-year schools. But what happens with PR, at least from what I've seen, is that it always goes too far. And it wasn't enough just to make a persuasive case for that path.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Shout out to your guy, what was his name? Ashton, who picked me up this morning. Excellent driver, man.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
We had to do it at the expense of the jobs you're talking about. So if you don't go this way... you're going to wind up turning a wrench with a giant plumber's butt crack and some other ridiculous trope. So it was a lot of stereotypes and stigmas and myths and misperceptions that started to swirl around the trades. And that, you know, I don't know when it happened, but I...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Just so you know. I mean, I know he drives a lot of your guests and this is a feedback I want to pass along. He was, you know, very frosty. But yeah, look, I think any time, any time that we abdicate.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, what's happened there, for me anyway, is that I, I mean, after 16 years of it, I can tell a pretty good story anecdotally. But now I'm able to go back and talk to people who we helped, what, five, six years ago with like maybe a welding certification. And it's amazing when you say, hey, how's it going? And they say, how's it going? I'll tell you how it's going. 210 grand a year.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I bought a van. I hired my buddy who's a welder. Then I hired a plumber. Then I got two HVAC guys and an electrician. We're doing $3.5 million a year. Got no debt. And so like my job is to is to talk to that guy. And and I do that a lot on my podcast. It's just like I just want to hear your I want to hear stories of people who prospered as a result of mastering a skill that's in demand.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And then maybe applied some level of either artistry or entrepreneurship or the willingness to move. That's a big one, too. You know, where you go, where the work is or, you know. And so it's it's really become it's why Bobby Kennedy called me. back in February, you know, he was like, Hey man, this micro works thing. You want to make it macro works? And I said, yeah, sure.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
What do you have in mind? And that's, I don't know how, I don't know if you knew this, but we had this whole conversation about like running together.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Oh yeah. No, he, he asked if I wanted to be vice president.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Dude, I was in Munich. I was in Munich in January, and he had called me earlier just to talk really generally about the middle class. Because he's like, look, what you've done with the foundation, my campaign is a lot about that, and I'd love to talk to you more about it. So I kind of put him in the category of middle class. elected officials, politicians who might, who might be useful.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You know, I, I'm not, I'm not that guy, but I said, yeah, look, man, I, I, I'd be happy to chat. Well, he called back and, you know, Gavin.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
There's going to be, it's like whack-a-mole. It's going to pop up someplace else and it's probably not going to be in your interest.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. So, um, They did a dive. This was very strange for me. They did a deep dive. And when I got back to the Bay Area, he invited me down to his home to meet the cats. They were all there. And we talked for like three hours. And I'm looking over my shoulder, honestly, like I'm being punked. Like which one of my crazy friends put you up to this?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But he was serious, and I was weirdly flattered, maybe. I knew I couldn't say yes, but I was so interested in what his thinking was. And we spoke for a few hours, and then we stayed in touch for the better part of the next month. And I actually really, for the first time ever, just tried to try it on. And it didn't fit. I would never do well in an office or in a bureaucracy.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I literally heard the sound of my sphincter slamming shut.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But, man, I'll tell you, man, he... It was a really... He was very gracious and very direct. And I tried to be too. And I told him, I'm like, look, the infectious disease thing, I get that. The middle class thing, I totally get that. The forever wars, I get all that. And then he's like, Mike, do you understand 77% of the youth today wouldn't qualify to get into the armed forces?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Do you understand what the crisis is we face right now? Never mind health. Health is its own thing, and I've got lots of things to say about it. But fitness... Just basic fitness, you know. His uncle was starring in commercials 45 years ago that were literally, we'd call it fat shaming today. You know, challenging. You know, I just talked to him the day before yesterday.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And he said, you know, Google any photo of Yankee Stadium sold out from the 60s or even the 70s and try and find the fat people. They're not there. And if they are, they're hard to find. Do it today. They're impossible to miss. Something colossally horrible has happened. Anyway, he was very passionate about all that. And I said, but- It's an important message. It is an important message.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
What percentage of this country do you think understands?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, I mean, technically, I guess I did. But I mean, I honestly, there are no new ideas. I stole this from George Plimpton, Studs Terkel a little bit, Charles Kuralt, some, Paul Harvey a little bit. You know, that kind of storytelling was always kind of interesting to me. And I freelanced for years, probably 20 years, in the entertainment business, working...
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Do you think that the basic fear and conversation around skin cancer and the lotions and the coverings and the sunscreens and, I mean, to what extent do you think people are not getting vitamin D because they've been scared out of the sun?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
No shortcuts. No shortcuts. I don't know that probably not many silver linings to the lockdown, but I did. I started walking. I've always been active, but I kind of backed off of the gym as I got older and started walking every morning for eight miles. And then, you know, Mike Easter, he became a friend, the comfort crisis. And I started rucking.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
In fact, when Bobby called, it was funny. He's hard to understand sometimes. And I was impossible to understand because I was gasping for breath. I got 65 pounds on my back walking eight miles every morning. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, dude, I'm dying. I'm rucking. But yeah, I just I think it I think there's really something important in that book that that Easter wrote.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I think our it's not the specifics of what we can do. This idea of what are the Japanese call it? I'm a soggy. a quest or a challenge of sorts that you should Well, you should challenge yourself to do every so often. Yeah, and one of the One of the criterion is you should have a 50% chance of failure Mmm, right so you it's a it's a real push into uncertainty and discomfort mmm
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, anxiety is a form of discomfort. And it's not just pain. I think most people equate discomfort or uncomfortableness with physical pain. But the way Easter talks about it, it's also boredom. Being bored makes people super uncomfortable because we're so not used to... Especially today. Especially today. You can pick this damn thing up and instant access to 99% of the information.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
pretty much whenever I wanted on shows that I didn't care about at all. And I was taking my retirement in early installments and really happy with the model. I'd been fired a few times from QVC and hired back and it was 1993 when I finally left and I had a decent toolbox. I was great in auditions, so I could get cast.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
then it'll look inward. It'll find something. Cold plunges, not comfortable. But if you can find a way to like it,
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I think there's a difference in knowing what the benefits are of a cold plunge, which would require you to do some research and do some reading and do some thinking and so forth, versus just saying, okay, I know there's some benefit. I don't actually need to know specifically what it is. I just need to know that there's an overarching benefit in embracing the suck. Yeah.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And if I do that a couple of times a day, I think I'm going to be better for it. And that's useful. That's been useful to me.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And yet, look at the stadium 50 years ago and look at it today. The evidence demands a verdict. Something awful has happened. It's like the difference between being hungry and feeling hungry. You know, that's something else I think about a lot. I mean, how often do we say, maybe you don't, but how often do you hear, God, I'm starving? I'm famished. No, you're not.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
But I didn't really much care about the nature of the work and had a pretty good balanced life, really. And then I was in San Francisco working for CBS on a show called Evening Magazine. You know the show. It comes on after the local news. Sure. And I was a host and I would go, um, every day, this is a cushy gig. Nobody watched the show, but it was fun to work on.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Did you ever read a book by Nathaniel Philbrick? It's called In the Heart of the Sea?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Oh, man. This is the true story of the sinking of a whale ship called the Essex, right? And the sinking of this ship inspired Herman Melville to write Moby Dick. And what happened was in, I think it was 1821, the whaling industry in Nantucket. So fascinating. This Nantucket back then was basically run by women because the men would go out for two, sometimes three years at a time. Jesus.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Hunting right whales, which are just sperm whales. Years? Years. Yeah. They were called right whales because they were the right whales to kill. Right. And in that time, it was a great source of energy for the country. All the lamplights burned on whale oil. They were like schools. There were so many. This book will, I mean, it's rich in a lot of different ways.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's where they got the expression Steely Dan, actually. Because it was just the women, and it was a device used for pleasuring themselves. Because the men were all out to sea.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
The business whatever it takes to shoot the elk and get it down from the mountain I get it that that's a thing but when you read through the real process of getting a sperm whale out of the ocean alongside the ship and then onto the ship. And the cutting of the blubber and the cauldrons that burn 24-7 on the deck and the blubber that's put into the cauldrons.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Because they have to or it'll rot. That's right. And so they just load up the boats.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So what happens, and this is not really a- Are they eating the whales, too?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
What are they eating? Oh, they've got their hardtack, mostly. Hardtack is just kind of like- Crackers. Crackers, biscuits with no real taste at all. It was the- Oh, they're probably sick. It was the currency. You're used to anything. Probably got scurvy, you know? But these guys would go all around the world- And this boat, the Essex, was a couple thousand miles off the coast of Venezuela.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And what happens is that it's the ship, is the main ship with the guys on it. And then when you see a whale, right, you basically put the whale boats in the water. And these are smaller, maybe 22 feet long, and men row them, right? And so you harpoon the whale, and then you hang on and go for what they called a— A Nantucket sleigh ride.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So the whale would just drag the... What if the whale goes under? It can't go under much further. It can't pull two boats down. And it doesn't. They tend to swim in a straight line after they've been harpooned. So you just hang on. And then when it tires itself out, you row it and you back to the whale ship. Do they kill it first? Well, no. No, it's killed back at the ship, typically.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You don't want to kill it when you're a mile from the ship, because you've got to drag it back.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Isn't that nuts? A couple hundred years ago, the ocean was filled with whales. Filled with them, like that.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, you can make a really good and really controversial case. They made a movie.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. It's amazing. Look, I mean, they were everywhere. So these guys harpoon one.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It was, um, you go to museums, you go to wineries and then you throw to these wrapped packages, right? It's all just love. It's if there's a three legged dog in Marin overcoming a heart tugging case of canine kidney failure, you know, that, that was like an evening magazine story. We did these all the time. Um, and,
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And then while they're out, maybe a mile from the ship, the mate of the whale that was harpooned Starts ramming the ship. Rams it three times.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Now, you got a couple dozen guys in whale boats 2,000 miles off the coast of South America with no supplies. So, what happens, and this is all in the preface, but the story basically starts when one of the whale boats is discovered not far from, I think it's Venezuela, and the guys look over the gunwale of their boat, and in the whale boat, it's just like a giant carcass.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's just bleached bones all in it, except for two quasi-humans. One in the stern and one in the bow. Each skeletons huddled up, staring each other with wild eyes, just waiting to see who would die next.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. And there were rules. They were almost like cookbooks that were very common.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Double-check me, Jamie, but I think there were probably a dozen on each one. Many family members. There was a cabin boy named John Coffin, I remember, and there were... I mean, a lot of these guys were related, you know, and they were dear friends and family. They lived together on Nantucket. And they ate each other. They ate each other, man.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They were at sea adrift, I think, for the better part of three months. Went into the National... That's him, Nate Philbrook. Fantastic. In 1820, the Whaleship Essex was rammed and sunk by an angry sperm whale, leaving the desperate crew to drift for more than 90 days in three tiny boats.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
You want to take a deep dive go to the like the whaling museum up in New England this stuff is This I mean in the day There were strict protocols on how to eat your friend How to prepare your friend for the device them on the spot, or did they have them prepared? They devised on the spot there was what the rules no no they were written it was it was like a maritime code and
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They knew it was a certainty. They just didn't know for whom. This was common. To find yourself with a group of people hopelessly marooned, whether you're on a boat or an island with nothing to eat at all, there were protocols, pretty strict protocols on how to draw lots to decide who would go first. How to kill the person who would go first.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
So, like, brothers are definitely off. But cousins, not optimal. So, like, people were being prepared for consumption.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And my mom called me, and I was in my cubicle at CBS, and she says, Michael, your grandfather will be 90 years old tomorrow. And my granddad, by the way, seventh grade education, electrical contractor by trade, but also a plumber and a steam fitter, pipe fitter. He could fabricate, fix anything. He had that chip. And I grew up next to him on this little farmstead north of Baltimore.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I mean, I can't imagine how you would make a fire out there. Oh, my God. Unspeakable. Oh, my God. That's interesting. Owen Chase, right?
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
See, this is why nonfiction is the best. I know it's nauseating, but I mean, that book.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
They feel really hungry. I found a description if you'd like to read it.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And this is why we have Moby Dick. Wow. This is why the greatest American novel arguably of all time was written because Melville came from that part of the world and he understood the stakes of hunting whales and he understood the absolute imperative need to get energy, you can make a really interesting and controversial case around how the fossil fuel industry saved the whales.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Because had that not happened in Pennsylvania, in Titusville, not long after this, we'd have hunted them into absolute oblivion.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
I was in Custer a couple of weeks ago for a buffalo roundup.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Man, this was a kick. So this is western South Dakota, not far from Crazy Horse and Rushmore. We worked on Crazy Horse for Dirty Jobs. We did an episode.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Well, they're working from a model that seems to have been blessed by all the appropriate parties, but they started working on this thing 50 years ago, and it's going to take another 40 before they're done. I worked on the fingernail of Crazy Horse with a whole crew.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Oh, you'll love this. It's so mine, but you can take all of Rushmore, all four heads, and put it on the forehead. Crazy Horse.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
And I knew I was going to follow in his footsteps. I knew it. But the handy gene is recessive, right? I didn't get that. And it was my pop who got me. He basically said, dude, just get a different – you can be a tradesman. I know you're enamored of being a tradesman. Just get a different toolbox. So that's what got me into entertainment. And 20 years later, I had completely run amok.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
Yeah. And I scaled down his forehead to do basically some tidying up of his nostrils and whatnot when we were there.
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#2235 - Mike Rowe
It's massive. It's absolutely massive. And yeah, there was one guy, Korchak was his name, and he was an immigrant and he loved the Indian people. And that's the model there at the right. Yeah. That's what it's going to look like? That's what we're shooting for.
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Welcome to a very special episode. We have someone that I've been a big fan of for many years, and I'm sure you have too.
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That's a great one. And I also know you talk about another one where like some of the maybe actors you looked up to or some of the big famous ones along, you know, that you've seen in other big movies. Right. They come up to you on red carpet.
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What's up, everyone? Welcome to a very special episode. We have someone that I've been a big fan of for many years, and I'm sure you have too. You've probably seen him on the big screen. Harold sat with me today. Legendary from Lost From, which is one of my new favorite shows. Good, good. My wife's very scared of it. We watch it late at night. And lots of awesome movies.
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such a wild thing when when they come up and they're talking to me it's crazy it's crazy i always love i ask these questions because i personally like i love those you know and i always say it's the ones that you go home and like tell your wife about yeah what's funny with my wife is she's like busy in the kitchen and i'll tell her this crazy story right came up to you or whatever oh yes it's a great baby
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I don't know if you ever get that.
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And then she'll be impressed. I thought you were going to say it was you doing a triathlon.
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No, that would be me. I'd be like, oh, snap, you did that? Yes, I did. We're going to get you on one of the sprint ones.
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So last couple of questions. I always like to ask this at the end of these sort of interviews is, and I already asked you earlier offline, but someone's listening. They're inspired by your work, right, and all the amazing things you've done. Talk to them as an everyday entrepreneur because you are now an entrepreneur, right? Especially now with the new business.
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But even I think as an actor, you don't get a salary. You have to go out there and make money. That's an entrepreneur.
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So you're an entrepreneur and you have been for many years. What would you give to tips to entrepreneurs starting out that look up to you? They've watched you in Lost and all these movies.
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And one final question, probably the most important one.
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Everybody listen up. Here you go.
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And we're going to talk today about, you know, the entertainment, acting, you know, career and industry and how it links to success and failure and resilience and what we go for as entrepreneurs. And so excited for this. So welcome. Thank you.
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And I guess just lastly, tell us about the new, you know, what you're working on, the big projects right now.
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Yep. I think From, I mean, is that blowing up more than you expected? Like, I feel it's... From has blown up way more than I expected.
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It's so good, the hook, like the storyline. I'm like, I don't watch TV that often. I watch a lot of movies, but it takes a lot to get me in a TV show. But it's like, I've got to know, where's this going?
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very good well it's been an honor and a pleasure to have you here today you've been amazing and your life story and the lessons i know it's going to impact thousands or tens of thousands of people that's why we do what we do here exactly so thank you so much for coming in uh everyone go go watch from if you've not already i promise you it's one of the best shows i've seen probably ever especially in this space yeah it's awesome uh and thank you so much for your time thank you sir
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That's a wrap. Keep working hard, have an impact, build a legacy. I'll see you guys soon. Take care.
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The Untold Journey of Harold Perrineau – From Dancer to TV Icon
Those are hot. I like them. So the funny thing about the red, right, is my personal brand, so all I wear is red. Okay. And when you can only wear red, that's all I wear, you find a lot of fascinating red things when you're always Googling and, like, it's a never-ending search for, like, crazy red things.
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The Untold Journey of Harold Perrineau – From Dancer to TV Icon
Okay. So, I mean, let's just start with your, I know we've been filming today and I know your life story very well. Let's summarize it for people listening. Like I love that. Like, you know, it really is that like from, from nothing that, that story of just believing in yourself and defining the odds and just going for it.
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And one thing that I think people don't see in acting and Hollywood is it's not a straight line, just like business. It's almost identical. Can you just summarize that journey for us?
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Well, the funny thing about success, and we'll come back to it, but it's like an ever-moving target, right? Because it's like, in a lot of people's eyes, I think both of us sat here have had a lot of success, right? But for us, it's still like, we're like, what's next?
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Do you think about that now?
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I think that's the successful trade of like, you know, I work with a ton of pro athletes, as you know, and get to meet so many amazing people. And I love what I do because of that. And we all have this, like, we're all connected somehow with this, like, I say I'm a little delusional. Yeah. And you said you still think you're normal. Your family tell you you're not.
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But we have to have this level of like, just we're out the box. We're not a normal person. We keep striving for more and we don't settle.
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It's the same in business because it's like when you start, everything doesn't work. You have no money. And you think, oh, yeah, when I have like I have 100 employees roughly now. And you're like, oh, yeah, when you're at that level, everything's good. And it's like, no, you have like a million dollars a month in expenses.
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The Untold Journey of Harold Perrineau – From Dancer to TV Icon
People try and, you know, employees will trip over something and try and sue you for no reason. People you've never met will try and sue you, and then everyone else will try and copy you. That's really wild.
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The Untold Journey of Harold Perrineau – From Dancer to TV Icon
Yeah, doing it all over.
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yeah exactly i'm kind of doing it in the reverse i just started you know getting into tv yeah right tv so right i was telling you earlier you know i i struggle to memorize three lines right right but so i'm like the beginner over there you know and and but that's also i think something interesting like we always like to challenge ourselves you're challenging yourself constantly i do you know why is that why i do like because it's always like
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The Untold Journey of Harold Perrineau – From Dancer to TV Icon
You know, there's funny ups and downs of success, very similar in my entrepreneur journey and entrepreneurs I see in the acting side. And I remember one thing that you were talking about earlier was being the tree in the back of...
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a dance performance exactly yeah i want to talk now about like your you know the summary of your success in this industry right yeah you're highly respected very well known in some of the biggest shows and movies and on the planet how does it feel going from the tree to now you're leading this amazing role in From, being in Lost, in Matrix, 28 weeks later. How does that feel to reflect on that?
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And your life story and the lessons, I know it's going to impact thousands or tens of thousands of people. That's why we do what we do here.
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You had this idea of who you wanted to become.
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What would you give to tips to entrepreneurs starting out that look up to you? They've watched you in Lost and all these movies.
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And it's very different to all your friends and your environment you were born in. So talk about that. And also I'd love you to talk about if someone's in an environment right now, and they're the odd one out. Like, I was in England, right?
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Yeah, I was an entrepreneur, very different, obsessed with money. And you, very similar to me, you were totally different. Like, you knew you were different.
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And if someone's listening, they feel they're the one out.
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And following up from that, what would you say to someone that they're stuck in the environment? Because I meet a lot of entrepreneurs and people trying to get started, but everyone says they shouldn't quit their job. They shouldn't become an entrepreneur. Their idea is stupid. They're going to fail. What would you say to someone?
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Well, and I admire that about you. You've got that hustle, right? And you always had that hustle. And then we were just talking now, you still got that hustle. You know, you're about to leave Amazing California, Hollywood. You got your family here, you're set here. You go into Nova Scotia, which isn't quite the same. It's far away, man.
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And you're going to be there for many, many months filming from. You don't have to probably go and do that.
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And how is that on the family side? You're a role model, right? I think it's so important, too, because especially I'm not a parent, but I have a lot of friends where their kids, you know, their parents are worth 10, 20 million, right? Or, you know, you're obviously a successful actor. How important do you think that is for them to see you hustling still in that role model-like figure?
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And just last couple of questions we come to wrap up, I'd love to reflect on some of your biggest highlights, right? So, you know, you were in obviously Lost, now from Romeo and Juliet, you know, Matrix. Was there any one moment in all of those or a different show or movie where you got the call or you got the role and you're like... you're reflected and you're like, wow, that's crazy.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
other people that are overweight and have health issues from you know being overweight telling me that oh it's not healthy to lose you sure yeah it's like oh my god you can't win right yeah yeah and then what about the you know we talked a lot about the personal development side but that ultimately led to the business side right so just for people that are watching that maybe don't know you talk about the business what you do now for a minute the day-to-day and
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
Thanks for doing it. So let's dive in. 500 kilometers in nine days, pretty impressive on the running side. And I know your business transformation's becoming impressive too, and you're working to help create your own legacy, right? It wasn't, you know, now you have a successful software trading company for traders, but it wasn't always this way.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
it's it's always wasted yeah so so now fast forward to legacy side right you know just to wrap today yeah you've you've got the episode coming out where you share more even more of this amazing story and hopefully you know the reason you're here is to inspire a lot of people in your situation you know i mean i read the other day like
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
40, 50% of the population in America live like you used to live, right? Many credit cards, month on month, can't survive more than a month. Many of them probably unhappy with their weight too, and then they drink. And that's the point of legacy makers is to not only teach the business side and how you've grown to over 100 countries from four credit cards in debt, but also the...
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
the personal development side, right? You've gone from overweight, unhappy to running ultra marathons and 500K in nine days. It's pretty epic. So what are a couple of those lessons in the episode that people get from you?
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
So if people don't know you, do you want to give them the summary of your life?
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
Good. And then what about moving into the leaving a legacy, right? How do you want to be remembered 50, 100 years from today?
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
Of course, yeah. That's one of the things, you know. Yeah, yeah. And what about, you know, when we talk about leaving a legacy, right? What does the word legacy mean to you?
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
And I think that's even more of the story, right? Because we have a lot of people in the show from America, right? And from all around the world, but from Lithuania, you're maybe the only one there. So inspiring, you know, smaller countries that aren't maybe as prominent as America that... You can still get out here and be alongside famous U.S.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
celebrities just because you've, you know, took those risks and stayed disciplined too. So last question. If someone's inspired by today's episode on the podcast or your main Legacy Makers episode, they want to follow in your footsteps, where do they find you, learn more about you and maybe reach out? Yeah.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
They start there and find us.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
Good. Well, another fantastic episode on Legacy Makers podcast in a wrap. Hopefully you're as inspired as I am by Romance This Story and maybe you're going through similar or know someone going through similar that needs to hear this so they can find the light at the end of their tunnel. That's the whole point behind Legacy Makers and we'll see you very soon for another episode. Take care.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
What were some of the lessons over these last decade to get to this point now where life's very different? You went from struggling and you changed your life.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
But well, just to jump in, that's how it started with me, too. You know, I was writing fitness articles and personal training. And I got to a point I was personal training back in the UK and stuff for like $50 an hour, which wasn't much. And then I started writing these fitness articles, getting $150, $200 an article. I could do them in an hour as a fast rider, maybe two.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
So I'm like, how many of these can I do a day? And then I got better and better, and I eventually got one gig, paid $1,000 an article, and I could do it in a day, right? It was more in-depth. They wanted scientific research and stuff, but I was the same. And I started making $10,000, $20,000 a month and used that to fund my fitness company.
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
that that's bad you know I yeah you need that wake up call right sometimes it's looking in the mirror sometimes it's a spouse leaving you sometimes it's a friend or best friend saying something sometimes it's bankruptcy or something crazy right so to me it looked like all of those well most of them coming out it's like yeah and I remember my girl left me you know back at the time the the like
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Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
So 15 years on now, we're sat here, right? And obviously I know now you travel the world, you have this trading company, hundreds of students around the world, you know, so you've ran, you know, ultramarathons and 500k, life's very different, right? You have children, you know, So what was the, you know, you've talked about this epiphany, right?
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
But what were some of the lessons over these last decade to get to this point now where life's very different? You went from struggling, normal, or how a lot of people suffer, and you changed your life.
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
They were just- A lot that don't serve you, a new version of you, right?
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
It was the same for me. I didn't even have to do it because I moved from England to America.
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
so it's kind of like a fresh start yeah and and uh you know now in America when I came here pretty much every friend is a millionaire you know that's because that's all I know right I have a couple of college friends but even there it was like a couple of high level people that went on and became like pro trainers for like pro sports teams like high performers and what they did um
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
and that's been one of my secrets you know just the environment and it's very easy when you move country for a fresh start you know because it's you don't even have to say no right i did say no occasionally because some of my old friends that used to party all the time they would say i want to come visit you in florida and come and i would just say no i'm too busy you know because i knew they just wanted to come out here and hang out and party yeah yeah that was really important and the environment is
The Living Your Legacy Podcast
Rimantas Petrauskas on Pre-Selling, Self-Mastery & Building Real Legacy
hello and welcome back to another episode of legacy makers podcast today we have romantis joining us he's flew all the way in from europe and we're gonna dive into his world his legacy he's a ultra endurance marathon runner his biggest achievement there is 500 kilometers running in nine days he's a bit like that forest gump guy when he starts he doesn't stop and he's also building successful businesses and software companies romantis welcome to the show
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, there's a lot of festivities going on like 30 feet that way.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, my favorite part about that entire interaction was her saying how she's the one who discredited Don Foster so that the grand jury didn't take him seriously. Meanwhile, the grand jury voted to indict. It's like, Susan, you didn't do shit. You didn't do anything. All you did was potentially help murderers get off the hook, allegedly.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So anyway, my point, and coming back around to that, this whole idea that, oh, parents don't do that to their kids. Lou Smith, my guy, and I don't think he's alive anymore, but in the middle of this, the very beginning of this, they go on CNN, and she mentions a woman who not a year prior had driven her car into a lake with her two children inside of it.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
and then claimed that somebody stole her car. She claimed she was hijacked, tried to pin it on a black guy, you know, which I don't even need to get into how screwed up that is, and then turns back around and is, you know, oh, like, panicky, poor me, you know, like, I don't know what happened. I was so stressed out. So you're looking at it.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I am in pain. You know, you look good. This looks right on you.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
How can you say parents don't do this to your children, don't do this to their children? when you have an example of it that just happened the year prior.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He was a good, he was a good investigator. And I think that, I think that his search... I think that he was a man with a good heart who genuinely believed that the Ramseys were not responsible for this. Because if you look at it, it doesn't seem like he ever once considered them. And this is just something you see time and time again with that case.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because, first of all, I do want to say, Patsy, in my opinion, told on herself in that very first interview when the two people she referenced were both guilty. Like OJ Simpson and I think Susan Smith was the woman's name. Both guilty. And she compares herself to them, basically.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's like you were meant to be that.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, yeah, he'd been found liable at that point. Yeah. So, you reference two people who are guilty in defense of yourself? Also, I mean, throughout that interview, yeah, she was on a load of Valium, but not once did I feel like she or John were sincere. I'm not a behavioral analyst. But at the same time, they didn't look like grieving parents to me. At least not in the sense that they should have.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
They looked like they were trying to hide something. And I know a lot of people came to that conclusion. Also, we haven't gotten into it yet, but just the sheer number of people they were willing to accuse with no evidence at all, the number of people who had their lives destroyed because these two people were just like, here's a name, go look at that person. It's mind-boggling.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it fits. So anyway, you know, welcome everybody, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. We're both sick. Violently. Yeah, Pico is currently going on the same list as Sedona Taphouse.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Even if they weren't guilty, what they did is disgusting. The lengths they went to to defend themselves, even if they weren't guilty, would still be offensive. I mean, people, lifelong friends, close friends that they had made when they moved to Colorado, just put through the ringer because of this. I just... I think that there's... Somebody's got to pay, you know?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And you look at it, nobody broke into that home that night, which leaves a very slim number of possibilities. And I'll get more into detail once we get to the end of the documentary about why I'm so certain nobody broke into that home. Really, the only thing that has given anybody a reason to suggest there was an intruder, the sheer single piece of evidence, is that DNA.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which, to this day, I repeatedly hear it was confirmed that that was not any member of the Ramsey family. And yet I have yet to find a single law enforcement source, and I don't mean prosecutors, law enforcement, FBI, CBI, county police, city police, any of it, that actually says that.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's kind of like with the Sebastian Rogers thing, how you see, like, people are like, oh, well, the police cleared all the parents, they all have alibis, and then there's not a single statement from the police saying that. You get, like, oh, you know, a journalist who comes out and says, I've spoken to law enforcement, and they say this. But it's not from law enforcement, it's from a journalist.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then I hear the exact opposite whispers in my ear from the other end of it, but... I mean, God, it's just the crocodile tears from John Ramsey made me sick. Him getting recently this year, this in the last few months, getting on TV and complaining about how the FBI wasn't involved early enough. Meanwhile, the FBI was at the house that day. And what did the FBI say? Look at the parents.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
From the moment the FBI was involved in the case, from the moment that body was found, look at the parents. And what did John Ramsey's lawyers do? They did everything in their power to prevent the FBI and the CBI from actually analyzing evidence. Because it might destroy things, might destroy a sample. As if swabbing something is going to destroy the sample.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You know, I hate to say it, but what was the goal here? You wouldn't let the FBI do it, and you told the CBI that you wanted the FBI to do it. Or that you wanted your own independent analyst to do it. No, I'm sorry, you're suspects. You don't get to have an independent analyst do it and not have law enforcement do it. And this is coming from a guy who does not like law enforcement that much.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And also Independence Blue Cross.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I mean, if you guys have been watching our content, I am critical of the police all the time. And on this one occasion, I am coming to you and saying the police didn't do anything wrong. At least not a few police officers messed up. But for the most part, the cops did not did not screw this up. A lot of the procedure that you look at it and go, well, why didn't they follow procedure?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears. I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. That's about it. That's it. Listen, if you want Rome, go watch History Unhinged. We did entirely too much Rome. Entirely too much Rome.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
A lot of that procedure only exists because of this case. There were things that they didn't know to do because nobody had ever made that mistake before. I, you know, yeah, it would have been great if Officer French or I try to remember. It's been a few months since I looked at the details. Officer French and I was in our Rickenbacker, Reichenbacher, Reichenbacher, something like that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, the sergeant. Yeah, if one of them had opened up that door, it would be a very different story. In fact, I would be willing to bet that if Officer French had opened up that one door in the basement and found the body, John Ramsey would have left in handcuffs.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And I mean, and here's the thing is I, yeah, I plan on going through everything else because the story just gets more and more convoluted. But I will tell you right now, there is exactly one thing that happened that day that convinced me. It was John Ramsey trying to get on a plane to Atlanta. And then when the police asked him about it, him saying, oh, I have a business meeting.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
When we know they were actually supposed to do what that day? They were supposed to be flying to Minnesota and then to Michigan. I don't know what happened that night. I don't think it was planned, whatever it was. I don't think anybody intentionally killed that girl. But someone who was let into the house that night or who lived in the house that night did it.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't think there's another way to look at it. And the fact that John Ramsey tried to run away, that suggests to me that either he knows exactly who it was and it was somebody close to the family, or he knows it was somebody in the family.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There is no business matter serious enough, no business matter pressing enough, that if you call the board or the people you ought to meet with and say, hey, my daughter was just found dead in my basement, they're going to be like, I'm sorry, John, we really need to get this deal done today. It's not going to happen.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And he then went on bereavement leave for three weeks and then went back to work, which shows that, obviously, there were no pressing matters. If he, the CEO, could go on bereavement, somebody was clearly capable of handling things. There was no business meeting that day. They know there was no business meeting that day. He knows there was no business meeting that day.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And, you know, it's those little things. Like, again, I hate to keep referencing Sebastian Rogers, but it's so pressing on the mind right now. Chris Proudfoot, in the first month, lied about like six different things. And they were things he didn't need to lie about either. But he lied multiple times. And some of those lies were relevant. He said he'd taken a polygraph.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He then said he hadn't taken a polygraph. within days, I think it was five days, said, I've taken a polygraph, and then five days later, he tells Nancy Grace he hasn't. He tells one person that the last time CPS came to the house was when Sebastian was like 12, and then he tells another person five days later, oh, well, you know, there was a recent CPS visit in the last few months.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Lie after lie after lie after lie. John Ramsey, same thing. To me, I don't need to know anything further to suspect him, but at the same time, that's not enough to prove it. That was enough to make me want to prove it, though. And also, it's interesting. They interviewed the pilot, and the pilot didn't seem to think that there was any sort of business meeting that day.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He didn't expect to fly to Atlanta that day. I, you know, and then the fact that he turns around and they tell this weird story about Fleet White freaking out and how they thought he was going to come kill them all. And oh, John Ramsey had to defuse the situation. Meanwhile, Fleet White is fleet and his wife are like, what? What are you talking about? That didn't happen.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I was coming over to tell you, hey, people are going to take it weird that you're not going on any sort of media, that you're not cooperating with the police. And then, of course, the fact they go and they get on TV and they're like, we're ready to cooperate fully with the police, the police who are on their way there to interview them, and then they hop back on a plane and go hide.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
They didn't go home. They didn't go back to the Fernies where they had stayed. This family worth $6 million didn't go get a room at the nicest hotel in Denver or the nicest hotel in Boulder. They didn't rent a house. No. They went and stayed at a friend's place. Jay Alowski, I think, who was, I believe, one of John's business partners, not from Access Graphics.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then we learned that, oh, one of the attorneys in the DA's office said, is a business partner of John Ramsey's. I mean, the layers to this thing. He's connected to all the right people to get away with this. And then you pair that with an absolutely feckless, you know, low-life scumbag of a DA in Alex Hunter. And what do you get?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You get a case that went on so long that everybody forgot what even happened. And then you have some punk 27-year-old 30 years later. Sorry, Mandy's calling me. You have some punk 27-year-old 30 years later digging up all your dirt. Sorry, John. I got to respond to this really quickly if you have thoughts.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
granted, there are still things that we want to look into and things that we want to... To be clear, the conclusion that we're unshaken in is that it was either a member of the Ramsey family or somebody that one of them let in that night.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I mean, the deliberate attempts to mislead the media, the constant publishing. I mean, the D.A. was leaking. Here's the thing that drives me nuts. The D.A. was leaking stuff. I seems like I one of the one of the officers on the case might have been leaking stuff, although it's weird because at one point it was Larry Mason, Sergeant Larry Mason.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
When they're in Atlanta at first, he gets accused of, as soon as they get back, he gets accused of leaking information to the press, to CNN. There was a lawsuit over this because he's suspended. He's, you know, pilloried over it. Lawsuit finds that he didn't leak information to CNN, or at least they couldn't prove he did.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Years later, he's talking with the guy who wrote Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, and according to Steve Thomas, the author of Perfect Murder, Perfect Town, told him that during an interview with Sergeant Larry Mason while he was writing the book, Mason admitted that he was the one leaking things to CNN. It's just a constant interference and malfeasance
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And see, now that we're doing this, I'm like, God, I really want to get back to this case.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
very soon probably um i would say if you if you want to ask questions probably try and get them in the next five to ten minutes yeah so we can get to everything i will say for a lot of people though even early in the uh episode this is the first thing that a lot of people have seen of ours in quite a while wait like the first thing you've clicked on or the first thing you've seen apparently the first thing i've seen also some people yeah i just looked at the viewer numbers uh-huh
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
YouTube, why? What do you want from us? You told us giants. We did giants.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Greetings, friends, Romans, countrymen. Lend me your ears. That's all I remember of that entire play. Which one is that again? Julius Caesar by Shakespeare.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
All right. One more Viking video and then I'm taking all of my Adderall at once and finishing the Jamba Day series in a week.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Driving me nuts. Hopefully everything gets better in a couple of months. Or in a month. The sooner, the better. But yeah, I mean... See, this is the problem. This is why I've been avoiding this case until I feel like I can give it the attention it deserves is because I do have such strong opinions about... Maybe I will be able to do it. There's so much I gotta read.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There's so much reading I gotta do.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I have been too. I want it. I want to finish it. Can I finish... Can I feasibly do that in a week?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I could. I just worry that part five... Yeah, I'll have to see what I can do. Because I really, the more I think about it, the more I'm just angry and... Man. Also, part of the thing is I want to vindicate the hell out of Steve Thomas. That man is a hero.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, I have never seen an officer more legitimately dedicated to a case. I think he was wrong in his conclusion. But I respect the hell out of the fact that he sat there on Larry King and told Patsy to her face. He thinks she did it. That is ballsy. And the fact that he then got sued. and fought through it. And that's the other thing.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I go and I look at it, and first of all, the attorney for the Ramseys in that suit was L. Lynn Wood. Aiden, do you remember the name L. Lynn Wood being relevant around the year 2021? I do remember it being relevant, but I want you to remind me exactly why.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because he was one of the attorneys out there insisting he had proof that the 2020 election was stolen, getting all sorts of TV appearances, probably writing all sorts of stuff, getting a lot of money coming into his name. and he presented nothing. I'm not, like, look, I'm not, this is not a political stance of any kind.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Regardless of what happened, there could be perfect proof that the entire election was rigged. There could be perfect proof that it wasn't. Fact of the matter is, he put his name all over the place out there and provided nothing. I mean, how anybody could trust this man? is beyond me. Like, this attorney... There are very few attorneys out there who I know by name.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I... Even Osama Bin Laden's attorney has a conscience. Even he was like, I can't defend Diddy.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, do you know how... Those freak-offs must have been freaky. if this guy won't offend him. But no, him, Stephen Bertolino, down in Florida for the Laundrie family. He's also up there. This guy is a completely unreliable lawyer. He is not a lawyer. He's a spin doctor.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We're gonna have to double them up this year.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. All right. We'll, we'll get to it. I got to find his law offices and send him a copy. Um, real certificate this time. Maybe even a, maybe even a trophy.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, so my point is L.N. Wood is not an attorney. He's a spin doctor. It's just like Steve Fisher. He's not a P.I. He's a spin doctor. I understand, Steve, you're literally a P.I. You have a license. I think you're a piece of shit. Go photograph some more half-naked 18-year-olds on a beach while you're also shirtless for some reason. Totally unnecessary. I said what I said.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Wow. Very bad vibes from that man. I know. So and you but that's the thing is I and this drives me nuts. You go on the there's there's the JonBenet Ramsey subreddit. There's the JonBenet subreddit. And then there's like Jameson JonBenet subreddit, which is the worst of them all. But one of them is a group of reasonable people who look at the evidence and say, here's what I conclude from this.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And another group of people is the opposite of that, who go and they do everything they can to exonerate the Ramseys. which is not how you do things. If I come across evidence that exonerates the Ramseys, I'm going to be honest about it. I'm not going to look for a way to make it not exonerate them. That's how you're supposed to do it.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And I'll say this, I've had some interactions with people on that sub who even watch this show and were disappointed by the direction things went. And I understand that. I'm sorry if I was rude, but I get passionate about this. Anyway, the... You passionate? I couldn't imagine. No, so it's...
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
One of the things I saw and what I can't wait to get to is the deposition of Steve Thomas from one of the lawsuits. And I don't think it's even the lawsuit where he was the one being sued. But, you know, they look at it and they're like, oh, look at all these weird answers from Steve Thomas. All of them are, of course, in text. And they're like, these are such weird answers.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He's clearly hiding something. It's like, no, he's being sued. Even if he wasn't being sued in this case, he was being sued, which means that they could bring it up in the other case. They might have to ask him the questions again, but point is, he knows how attorneys work. And if you look at the questions L. Lynn Wood was asking, Thomas' responses were perfectly reasonable.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And one of my favorites was L. Lynn Wood saying, like, you know, are you aware of this? Again, I'm forgetting a name. It was the CBI's handwriting analyst. Um... And he's like, are you aware? This is the one that basically said he thinks Patsy wrote it, but he wasn't comfortable making that statement to a court. But it was his opinion that the handwriting matched Patsy Ramsey.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There were, I think, like six different experts. Opinions range from it was probably Patsy to it wasn't Patsy. Guess whose experts said it wasn't? And then I think one from the Secret Service also said he was more confident than not that it wasn't.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So that was the thing. He said, I think, 24 out of 26 or something like that. Now, I will say, that's anecdotal from Steve Thomas. He never said that. I think it's Chet Yubowski. He never said that to the media. What he did say was that there were indications that Patsy wrote the note. That was what he was willing to say.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
L. Lynn Wood, questioning Steve Thomas, is like, are you aware that Chet Yubowski has come out and said that he doesn't believe that? I found, and he was like, I showed you this article where Chet Yubowski says that he doesn't think it was Patsy. Or that he denies ever saying 24 out of 26. Or he denies something along those lines.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The only public statement I could find from Chet Yubowski anywhere on the internet... was there were indications that it was Patsy Ramsey. Eldon Wood did not have to tell the truth during that deposition. He could lie to Steve Thomas and say that this came out just to see what Steve would say.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And I think Steve Thomas knew that because I've read through the deposition transcript, everything that's available. Not once did I see anything about him actually providing the article. It was just, on this day, this article said, on this day an article came out saying that Chet Yubowski didn't say this. Says he didn't say this. And Steve Thomas is like, I don't know what to tell you.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I can't find that article. I've searched. I've checked that date in every relevant newspaper. I've checked it in online archives. I've checked it on the newspapers.com database. I cannot find an article in which Chet Yubowski actually denies that statement.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I assume lawyers can do the same thing during a deposition. because your responses are on you. He might have phrased it in a certain way, like, if I showed you a document saying this. That's the thing, though, is, like, you can... There are also clearly, like, spots missing from the transcript.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Not in a deposition. Your lawyer might be able... Your lawyer can...
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
His lawyer might have been caught off guard too. Point is, I found no evidence that this article existed. Anywhere. And I found some niche stuff. I have dug. Sometimes I miss things. But I have dug. I mean, we had the Martha thing with the boy in the box. Never publicly identified by the police.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
All we had was she lived in lower, she lived like in Philadelphia in Fox Chase as a child, according to her. Her parents taught at this school, according to her. And the police found her in Cincinnati in 2002. Using that information, I tracked this woman down and identified her and proved her parents did in fact work where she said and that she had lived where she said. I can find things.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You know, since you mention it, the same exact thing happened to me with my health insurance lately. I had Independence Blue Cross and then they didn't charge me and then they didn't notify me that I hadn't paid them because they hadn't charged me. The credit card that it was set up to auto pay on was working perfectly fine.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I could not find this. I don't think it's real. And when I asked that subreddit full of people who insist Steve Thomas was lying, not one of them could find it either. Then a ton of this stuff is like, you know, oh, well, Jameson says that this, this, and this, and that she has the documents to prove it. Where are they, Jameson? Where are they, Susan?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
When you die, do they die with you, or do you have it so that they'll be released? Because here's my opinion. If those documents she has exonerate the Ramseys, why not make them public? Seems to me that they only exonerate the Ramseys if you leave a whole bunch of information out.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If you're convinced the Ramseys didn't do it, like she is, why not release the documents that you have that supposedly clear them?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
it's going on too long. Cause at this point, John's going to die before he can be punished for anything. I will say the moment that happens, I think a whole lot of people are going to start hitting Burke.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Without John left to defend him. I don't know, man. You, have you seen the interview he did with Dr. Phil?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Me too. Well, you know, I feel like every time he starts running out of money, he comes out of the woodwork to try and drum some up by doing a documentary or something. Now, I... Listen, it...
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If what happened is what I think happened right now, which is that John Ramsey, that Burke hit her with a flashlight, and that John found her unresponsive and knew he had two choices, one of which was going to be take her to the hospital where she'd probably die anyway, and then they'd have to explain what happened, or, you know, try and hide it and make it look like she was kidnapped, because I think that that was probably the goal, was to have the police come search the house, and then...
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
get the body off somewhere. I... If that's what happened, I would almost understand. You know? I'd kind of get it. I'd be like, that is a horrible position to be in as a father. And I do think he... And again, in this version of the story, he's the one that uses the garrot, right? It shouldn't be called a garrot. It was a simple pull knot. But...
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I can understand putting your daughter out of her misery because there's no way she's going to survive. And then it gives you some time to figure out what to do about your son. Because it was an accident. You know? I would almost understand. I would almost feel sympathy. Like, that is a horrible position to be put in as a father.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's everything that happened after that that makes me think this guy needs to suffer somehow. So, I don't know. But that's where I'm at with JonBenet.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I find out two weeks after my plan has been terminated that my plan has been terminated. And then I spend, like, hours upon hours on the phone with them and with Penny, the Pennsylvania Health Insurance Exchange. And twice IBX has told me, Independence Blue Cross has told me, yeah, our bad. We'll have it reinstated by the end of the week.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. I have some hard questions for him.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Not that I'll ever take it. But yeah, John, if you happen to see this, listen, like I said, I am willing to be sympathetic and that this was all some horrible tragedy, some horrible accident. But there are questions you got to answer, man. If you're willing to come on the show, I'm willing to look at you in a whole new light. Same goes for Chris Proudfoot, by the way.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Although he recently called into some weird, like, small channel called, I think it was Dolly Vision, that was doing something they call Turtle Island, which, by the way, way to steal a Native American term for your show about missing children. just weird choice, to vote me off of the island.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Like, he called in to do this, which to me tells me he's aware of my existence, which makes it really weird that he's never come out and actually denied anything I've said. Once. Ever. He's never addressed us.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But yeah, so, you know, honestly, I'm more willing to be sympathetic to John Ramsey than I am Chris Brathwaite. Which is a wild thing to hear you say.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, so, listen, also, I think I went through it a little bit in the most recent JonBenet episode, but Burke's, the interview Burke did with the police on, like, early on in the case, I think it was like the 7th of January, he gave some answers that really heavily contradict what Patsy said. And with a lot of certainty.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then there's the interview he did with a psychologist where he mimes bashing his sister with a hammer. And then 20 years later he goes on Dr. Phil and doesn't seem any less suspect. I don't know. I would have John on if he wanted to come on. I'd have Burke on. I'd be willing to do that.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I would just have to call him a weenie the whole time. Like, oh my God, dude. Whoa. Also, the fact that he ran back in the 70s on a platform of the city is doing too many plea bargains. If I get in, I'm not going to do plea bargains. I'm going to actually get the criminals and put them in jail. And then he went on to do more plea bargains than the previous guy. Like 30% more.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. The first one, we did a lot of Rome, too. We lost a Roman helmet guy, though.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And I don't mean 30% more than that guy was doing. I mean a total of 30% more. Like two-thirds of the criminal cases were going to plea bargains when he came into office. It went up to like 92 by the 90s. His guys were reprimanding Steve Thomas for shooting somebody who had just beaten his wife and then shot at him. Thomas also got in trouble for shooting a guy who came after him with a knife.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He was a SWAT officer. You expect those guys to get shot at now and then. It's their job to get shot at. And when they do, it's expected they're going to return fire. You know, it was this whole idea of making Boulder seem like this nice, peaceful little city where nothing bad ever happened.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then twice I've received a notice saying that it's not being reinstated because I didn't pay. And I'm like, how? Listen. Listen. I'm not saying I agree with his actions, but I get where Luigi was coming from. But the more important thing is if anybody out there is a lawyer in the state of Pennsylvania, I found out over the weekend that I am not the only person this happened to.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And yet, it did, and they just swept it under the rug every time so that he could maintain an image of being this great guy. And what's weird about it is he didn't even seem to have higher political aspirations. DA was all he seemed to care about being.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. I mean, I think his goal was basically like make it seem like things were good.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But yeah, I think at this point it's time to go to supers. It is indeed.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Didn't North Carolina just get somebody by firing squad? North or South Carolina?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I think it was South Carolina just executed somebody by firing squad. And it was actually his request. Wow. He was worried that he would feel like he was being cooked alive in the chair. which he probably would.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think somehow the act of throwing a switch instead of pulling a trigger feels less direct and therefore more humane. And he was worried lethal injection would make him feel like he was drowning because apparently that can't happen.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, exactly. Also, the guy totally deserved it.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think he, like, murdered a family.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Like, children included, if I remember correctly.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think that death is punishment enough. I don't think we need to make death painful. Even for child murderers? Murderers, no. The other thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, right there. I think in that case, like eaten alive by fire ants.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bronze. Yeah. Just stick them in the belly of the bowl.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Good ones. Or the scarab beetle one where you cover them in honey and put them into a box of scarab beetles.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, there's also one where they would take a rat and put it on your stomach and put a bucket over the rat.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Put me in charge of getting rid of the pedophiles. I have ways and means.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Gomb, are you okay? Do you need to talk to somebody? We have resources. And yes, we will be at Blobfest. Yes, we will be.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, are you having trouble downstairs?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
In fact, Independence Blue Cross did this to a lot of people. And to me, that sounds like a class action lawsuit, given that I, you know, It put all of us in mortal danger of, you know, if we get sick or injured going into deep medical debt for reasons that don't really make any sense.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't, but I will look it up.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It was Anabaptist.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The Munster Rebellion... Oh, it's Munster. Germany. Munster. ...was an attempt by radical Anabaptists to establish a communal sectarian government in the German city of Munster, then under the large Prince-Bishopric of Munster in the Holy Roman Empire. Anabaptism is where the Amish come from. Really? Yeah. They're an Anabaptist sect.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We got Anabaptists that way. Good old Ezekiel and Jeremiah down the road.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, yeah, I don't know.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I mean, it's because it's in Cyrillic.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yes, I will be doing one reacting to the super chats. It's going to be a little hard because I got to go forward. like through the episodes and find the super chats. But yes, I will be doing that. And we might be, I think the goal is to take that entire episode, download each segment and then stitch them together into one and re-upload it that way.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So what we'll do is when we do that, I will go through the super chats and answer them at the end. But yes, I do plan to do it. Don't worry. It just might not be this week.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Bad. Bad gum. Down.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think that's a continuation of the last one. Yeah, I can explain. I can explain the Methodist positions because you got to, you've got the United Methodist, you've got the Wesleyan Methodist. Neither of them are like, gay people bad. They're just, one is basically, yeah, I'll get into it on Weird Bible. It's a lot to explain.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's the one where it's like, how's the war going for you guys? I can't wait to see my mom. And then it blows up.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Now we have Anglo-Saxon helmet guy, but he's very quiet. Do you want to pass me my nasal helm? Yeah, we filmed some good content. There was some bonking. I got to wear my helmet.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, it's illegal to shut off power in the winter.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Let's do that for a stream one night.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Okay, first of all, you watch your words, brother. Exactly, much better. Get Starlink, get a dash cam.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, it makes more sense. Yeah, I can definitely get into it. It's just going to require very careful wording.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, nice. I've always wanted the P card. Dude, I am collecting passes at this point. You are? I have two separate F passes.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I've received the ultimate pass at one point, just I was told I wasn't allowed to use it in mixed company. And I haven't used it at all. to be clear.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which I think was smart. No need to use the gamer word.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Asatru. Asatru. Okay, that... Oh, yeah. Oh! See, my only worry with covering Asatru is it's what the Nazis were into. Like their own version of, it was their own weird version of Norse mythology. But yeah, you got to be careful because obviously you're going to be talking about Nazis. But yeah, that could be a good episode, actually. Nazi occultism. Oh my God, yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I can't believe I hadn't thought about doing that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
True, yeah. It's not technically unsolved, but I think we would probably... It's one where I don't really know much about it. I remember it happening, but I was too young to really pay attention.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, that's a creepy little town.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
As of the 2020 United States census, the town's population was seven. A decrease of nine from the 2010 census count of 16. Aiden, we could buy this town. Is it on the PA border? It is on the PA border. That's important because if I get pulled over with a gun, I need to run.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, yeah. If you get pulled over in New Jersey with a gun, it's best to just run back to Pennsylvania. Otherwise, you're going to prison for five years.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That is not legal advice, for the record. But no, if you have a handgun in New Jersey and you don't have all the proper permits, it doesn't matter if it's in your car. It doesn't matter if the gun is here and the mag's in the trunk. It doesn't matter if the gun is locked in a safe. Automatic five-year prison sentence.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because it hasn't been challenged in court yet. Now, granted, they do now have to issue a permit. It is now shall issue because of the Bruin decision. But yeah, if you get pulled over in New Jersey with a gun in the car, don't talk about the gun. comply with everything the officer asks you to do and don't let them search your vehicle without a warrant.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, to be clear, the bill we haven't been able to pay is the gas bill. Ironically, the gas stove still works. The electricity in every other room of the building does not.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Again, if you're capable of getting back to Pennsylvania, you could just not go back to New Jersey.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Do you know about their duty to retreat laws? No, I don't. So do you know the law in Pennsylvania if somebody comes onto your property? It's a standard ground state.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Castle doctrine, I believe, in fact.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which basically means if somebody comes onto your property in Pennsylvania and you have a no trespassing sign, you don't even need to warn them. Uh-huh. If you do warn them and they continue remaining on your property and you perceive them to be a threat, you're good. Pull the trigger. You cannot get in trouble for it. As long as they're not running off of your property.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If they're running off your property, you shoot them in the back. But as long as you shoot them in the front, you're clear in PA. They could be at your fence line, and you could be in an upstairs bedroom. In New Jersey, they can enter your home, they can chase you through your home, and you cannot use a firearm until you're locked in a room you can't escape from.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If you are in an upstairs bedroom with one door to it and two windows, New Jersey law states that you must flee out one of the windows instead of using a firearm to defend yourself.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And anything in it? Uh-huh. You're not even allowed to defend your own life until you are cornered, at which point it's usually too late.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, no, it's no. Granted, unfortunately, it does not really get much better until you get down to like Virginia. But Virginia's got nice beaches. Thank God PA is PA. Oh, PA is great.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
As I've been saying, Pennsylvania had a choice. We could either have liquor laws or gun laws, and we chose the former. You know what? I'm cool with it. Also, somehow we are the one place with a state monopoly on something where it's cheaper than everywhere else.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And there's still this, so... Yeah, that's kind of what's going on here at the Lodge. Yeah. But, you know, I had to give you some updates, you know, chitter-chatter a little bit. Anyway, the big update I wanted to give is that for months... A small number of very passionate people have been asking where the rest of the JonBenet series is. And I answer you, I wish I could finish it right now.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Not everywhere else, but I am always surprised when I go to Maryland and alcohol is more expensive.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, we got to bring Teddy Roosevelt back from the grave to get rid of Pico.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Basically. But since they only operate in Pennsylvania, the federal government has no jurisdiction over them.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It would. But unfortunately, PICO has a lot of power in the state of Pennsylvania. Mm-hmm.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Anyway, we have more questions. We do indeed. So many more questions.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it's kind of like... I think people have a misconception that the live show is supposed to be just like the Friday show.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. I think, I think it's just, that's what we've been trying to do. There might be a way that we can make it more definitive for people, but yeah, I mean, that's kind of been the goal. It was never intended to be like as intense or serious. It was always meant to be a more discussion kind of thing.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Where's Whistling Diesel when you need him?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That would be so funny. And then we can take it down to IDX's headquarters too. Well, he's been going after... I'm going to erect a giant statue of Luigi from Mario Brothers outside of the Independence Blue Cross headquarters.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The vigilante stuff? Yeah? Yeah. I love it. It's great.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I was like, damn, this looks fun.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I saw one where he tracked down a truck. Did you see the one where he tracked down a truck that had been basically stolen from one of his viewers? And it's funny. He just basically... harassed this guy until he admitted he had the truck.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And it worked. And you can see the cops actively trying not to actually do anything about it. And the, the, my favorite part is the end of the video when he actually like gets the truck and he's standing in front of all the cops and he's, you know, getting the keys and everything. And they're just kind of standing around watching.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He's like, you guys should probably like ask me for paperwork, proving that I, I'm allowed to take this truck. Right now. Okay. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
To be perfectly honest, we are very confused about YouTube at the moment in general. Our views are half what they were a month ago. We don't know why. It seems to be entirely on the algorithm's end. We've been, as you can tell from watching the show, trying all sorts of different things from...
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, if you want to come on History Unhinged, we'd love to have you.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
No, this is usually how I am a long time before you get this way. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Talking about giants to true crime to we just shot a video on Vikings, which I got to be honest, I know it's kind of more history than than lore and a little outside of the wheelhouse. But that the Viking, the story of the Vikings in North America, and I use Vikings colloquially, the story of the Norse in North America is.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Including two times in the last four days.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There's a lot on this girl.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
yep anyway anything about melanie ethier that you're liking i just mainly there's a lot of coverage like there was there was the wikipedia page is lengthy which is usually a good sign nice when it comes to looking into a case i love that we get to do that too take stuff that is like well documented but still mysterious and show it to a larger audience than would otherwise see it oh it's great it's great
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That as well as, what was it? She love locked my cave till I see TK.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Apparently used to prank its visitors.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
is so incredibly convoluted and interesting that I think you guys are going to love it. It's going to be a two-part series. We just shot the first one. The next one will be coming out the following week. But we've been trying everything. We've been really struggling. So when it comes to JonBenet, I was kind of like, all right, I'll wait until the views are up again and we can take the hit.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So I heard Mime Wars. I know, I heard Mime Wars. Not Mind Wars. And I was like, yo, the Mime Wars? A silent conflict, what do you know? Yeah, the Mime Wars and Bloody Mingo. Yeah, I can take a look. West Virginia state police made to stomp out unions. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, I will say I've only had good interactions with Pennsylvania state police.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. One guy was, well, except Ridley. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the one guy was basically like, you know, where are you headed? And I literally just pulled into my apartment complex because it was at a road where it went from 55 to 35 really abruptly up in State College. And it was like, where are you headed? And I was like, here. And he goes, oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He was like, good news is it's your first violation. You pay the ticket. It'll go away. You don't need to worry about it. And I was like, yeah, I know. I didn't see the speed limit sign change. And he was like, yeah, I know. That's why I sit there. Which I'm guessing that most of the people he pulls over probably aren't as chill about it as I was, where I was just kind of like, ah, hmm.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I would be called paleface.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We are getting a lot of recommendations. I'm going to put that in my phone, too. How do you spell it?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
15 year old Vatican citizen.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I can take a look into it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, we're currently trying to work out with YouTube. What's going on?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because I love doing the story. I'm fascinated. I'm really invested. And I know a lot of you guys are too. But my hope was that it would basically get to a point where like, OK, we're doing really well on three of the videos every month. That'll allow me to take the hit doing the job in a video because it's kind of like imagine imagine you're you sell cars and you have three.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, good God. Just adding in more and more stuff. Oh, I think I know which one. For JonBenet. Yeah. If I had to put somebody away for it? Yeah, right now. I think the most likely person to have caused the injury that I... I'm trying to think of the best way to put this. I think it's most likely that she's dead because of something Burke did.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
what hero compliance a hero complex said Rome wasn't covered in one stream that's true it was not it was covered in almost all of them it's just so easy to talk about Rome you know easy to talk about Rome well we'll get to a point in a year that's the only thing we do talk about yeah exactly this is this is actually a surprisingly comfortable piece of headwear given what it is hello hello
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. So I think, I think Burke. If somebody had to go to jail, I'd say Burke.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
When we do that, the numbers don't come. The numbers go down. That's the problem. We did what we wanted to do for a while, and it didn't come. And then we started being like, what's the algorithm want? And then we started to get popular, and we were able to actually do this for a living.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Like, for example, I want to do Jean Bidet right now, and YouTube's algorithm keeps saying no.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You know, you have you're on a good streak, right? And then suddenly you stop selling as many cars. you gotta find a way to sell more cars. Like, if... Say you got, like, five cars you sell, and one of those cars simply stops selling. Four cars you sell, and one of those cars simply stops selling. You gotta figure out how you're gonna manage to operate the business.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because at that point, it won't matter if a video does half as well as usual because it'll be doing so much better than it currently does. But we need to be seeing, like, consistently 500,000 views a video before I can even consider that. Once we get to the point... Once we're at, like, 250,000 per video, which is where it was sitting for a while there, that was great.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Like, I was like, okay, cool, I can start to branch out a little bit more. And then the views collapsed again. So... 250 was not enough. 500 might be enough.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think a lot of people maybe who are newer to the channel also don't realize this is our full-time job. We took a massive risk leaving our 9-to-5s to do this, and it's paid off for the most part, but when there's a downturn, it gets scary. Again, as much as I would love to just cover whatever the hell I want, right now we don't have the audience to do that. So one day, we're getting there. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, oh, how to keep the lights on? Wait! Yeah, exactly. Point is... As much as we love doing this job, it is also a job. We do have to worry about the amount of money that's coming in. We have people who depend on us for getting paid. We have a lot of irons in the fire. We're trying to grow into more than just being a YouTube channel.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. I want to be clear. I love my job.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. It's like, we're, we're doing good work and it's just not getting views.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
almost a full 2% below our usual click-through rate. And it's the best video we've had recently in terms of performance. The CTK video, about a 1.5% higher click-through rate. Less than 100,000 views as of tonight.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Like, a great video for us is, like, 8% click-through rate.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's a lot easier to explain if you come from an internet analytics background.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, that's great. Next question.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We're not complaining, by the way. We're just trying to explain so that you guys understand because we can tell there's questions.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Also... I will say, if more people were on the Patreon, we could kind of ignore the algorithm more. Oh, yeah. Which, again, is not me begging for money. It's just like that is kind of one of those things that, like, if you ever wonder what's the point in joining the Patreon, because there's not a ton of exclusive content that goes on there. We're working on trying to find something.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Like, for example, bloopers, I think, would be solid. But that just requires Aiden having a little bit more time in his day to edit.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But if, like, for example, if I... If everybody who watches a video in the first 24 hours it came out were to subscribe to the Patreon for $1, we would not need to even have YouTube monetization on. Like, we'd still have it because otherwise YouTube doesn't push the videos, but... Like, that's what I'm talking about. Like, we wouldn't need sponsors for our videos.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So point is... I'm still working on the JonBenet series. I've been trying to figure out, am I going to be able to do this in a monthly format? Am I going to be able to do this in a bi-monthly format? And what I came to the conclusion of is, I will be able to do it, but for everyone's sake, including ours, I think the best way to do it is finishing out the series in one video.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If we got to a point where we were bringing in the money that we're bringing in on YouTube, on Patreon, I don't think we'd take sponsors.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think we would just have the videos have no ad slot. You have your YouTube ads, but there wouldn't be sponsorships. Because the only reason we do those is to make up for the gap between what we make on YouTube and what we need to make to run the business. But yeah, that's enough business talk. Questions?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
i okay who what was the okay first of all i have to say that two was can we test the dna they have tested the dna it's just that the sample is so uh corrupted and so mixed that you're basically finding a person who doesn't exist at this point uh three what is fully confirmed i don't know how to answer the question maybe in terms of like what evidence is in fact fully confirmed
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's the hard part, is depending on who you ask, that answer changes. I'd say for one, John Ramsey definitely lied about that flight. That's confirmed. But yeah, it would be hard to answer that question, honestly. What was the next one?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Most of the police officers involved. The people leaking were primarily within the DEA's office, within the Ramsey attorney camp, and then a couple of rogue police officers.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think they've mostly moved on with their lives since. Really, at this point, dragging them back into it probably would do more harm than good.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We have been considering that. The difficulty would be getting that monetized.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I worked really hard at building that gaming channel. But we could rebrand my personal channel and then I could build out a new one.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I was honestly pretty surprised at the viewer numbers tonight. Kind of caught me off guard. So like I said, it's given me the drive to maybe hit this again sooner rather than later.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's basically at the point where they've done everything they possibly can. That DNA evidence, like I said, is the only thing that's really still in dispute. And... I mean, from what the police have said, it sounds like the DNA doesn't say anything about the case whatsoever. Whereas John Ramsey keeps insisting that it will for some reason. I think it's because he knows it won't.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, that is the, the difficulty in doing something like that with the Netflix documentary is the rules about is basically DMCA stuff. I don't want to get copyright claimed. Um, And I don't know. I don't know if doing it the same way you can do it with YouTube videos would, would fly. I don't know if Netflix would try and have that taken down. I could probably do it as a live stream.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which is going to be long as hell. That is going to be a long video. I... might drop that as what we'll probably do, and I'm aiming for around Christmas, because that is going to be, at this point, I think the 28th anniversary.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't know how long it would stay up, but I could try. Um, it just would, it would be hard to do it in the standard format because if, if I spend a week on that and Netflix copyright claims it, things get even worse.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's a great question. I would assume it's because she doesn't actually have any of the stuff she claims to have.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I feel like either the cops already have everything she has or she's lying about what she has.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm in your walls.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I have not yet gotten out there, but I am going to be out in Pottstown tomorrow, so I might give it a shot. Unless the one you said was Chesco, in which case I do know of that one, and I have been planning to head over there to take a look at their selection as well. And yeah, dude, I don't know. I know you're saying that
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
i we have different experiences with the birds man i don't know which you're i know you're one town over i don't know which town it is it's just like i have never had the birds chirp at 1 a.m outside my window here in phoenixville yeah it's getting warm they're starting to get a little uh i don't know their clocks are off for some reason yeah it's difficult because my specifically because my alarm is like birds chirping
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Well, it's exacerbating it for sure.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Really? Yeah. I find it to be much more pleasant than, like... You know? It definitely is, but it would never wake me up. Also, it's like... That doesn't wake me up either, but, you know... Yeah.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So I'm going to aim for Christmas, and my goal is to release basically the entire documentary, potentially going back and reshooting the original four episodes, tying them together a little bit more coherently, correcting some of the mistakes I made the first time around, and then just blasting through the remainder of it. The issue is...
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, the beeps, the creeps, and the sweeps.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, yeah. She like needing your face or something.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Ella does that. Yeah. My Husky does that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You're just sitting there. You're literally like, you're just like, okay. Okay. Cool.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
uh jimmy m for who's been a member for nine months says heading up to phoenixville in september for my vacation any suggestions as to where i should visit uh here first of all yeah we have the lodge the lodge is a good place if we are having a an event of some kind let let us know that you're gonna be in town we might uh might be able to get you in yeah uh because we do little little stuff downstairs um
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
As for other local stuff, you've got to get out to St. Pete's. Really cute little old mining village, quarry village. Beautiful. It's on some game lands, so beautiful hiking spots, great river, great restaurant right there. Awesome for brunch, except for the one time I brought Aiden and Kat there for brunch, and for some reason it was terrible.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I still still just don't understand how that happened.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. If you like shopping, King of Prussia Mall is 10 minutes down the road. Valley Forge National Park is right here. Great for hiking to Phoenixville in particular.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Bluebird Distillery. Awesome, awesome cocktails.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And if you just want to go party, Molly McGuire's is a great time on the weekends.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And that's probably where you'll find us.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Actually, I think I've hit both of those in the past. I almost went back and did Mothman again, and there's just nothing. Yeah. Like, there's a couple of newspaper articles, and aside from that, it's books. And most of the books are not discerning in their source collection. It's kind of like if David Politis wrote a book about Mothman.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's a cluster, alright. Yeah, I went back and I looked through them and I was like, yeah, a lot of these are weird, but more in like a someone kidnapped this child way and not a Bigfoot kidnapped this child way. Or this child fell into a portal kind of way. Like Michael real was even pretty not mysterious. And at least that one, I could be like, maybe it was a portal. It wasn't a portal.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'm trying to do something nobody's ever done before with this case, which is make a filmed documentary that covers the entire story with all of the relevant details. Because if you watch the Netflix version, it left out probably 80% of the story. because it was trying to tell you an exciting, riveting story, not get to the bottom of what happened.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Absolutely. I would be insulted if it didn't.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We're going to steal the USS Constitution of Independence.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, so that's... Sometimes people have to rejoin and then it doesn't collect. It's weird.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, the boats. That was the one with the honey, I think, and the insects.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We're ill. Stephen Bell from History of Everything was also ill.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We just shouldn't have been making out so much, you know?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
To be honest, I don't know.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Yeah, we were going to do it and then Sebastian Rogers happened. Yeah, I might be able to hit that at some point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I will admit part of it is that I am simply not a science person. I am not a science man. I'm an oil man. So people are going to be like, the Kepler belt. And I'm going to be like, Kepler had a belt?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I, that sounds good. That sounds nice.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Keller, are you week one or week two?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Assuming the national park still is, is there. Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Donnie, my boy. No, not the national parks. Go cut something else. Go cut like... I... I don't know. We don't need to have our military in 53 different African countries. Cut one of those.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And for better or for worse, we've become something of a cross between an entertainment channel and also a documentary channel. So, my goal is to take the remainder of the story and write the remainder of the documentary. That's just going to take some time. So you guys are going to get JonBenet back.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Or we could also invest in our nuclear power grid and start exporting energy to Mexico and Canada.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Josh Shapiro, man, I got a plan for this. We just got to talk.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Mm hmm. And you can also make nuclear energy a monetarily incentivized program for them. Yep. The only reason they're resistant to it is that they're worried that they'll go out of business if it becomes a thing.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. We're almost through.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I thought we were so much further ahead.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
oh here we go okay um so many thank you guys but it's so many i know gomp says yo weird weird bible from thursday we're working uh yeah so weird bible is it i mean the the internet and my computer shut off and it was just a whole thing so uh we put them on unlisted and they're gonna get stitched together and then i'm gonna answer the super chats and it'll be all one nice nice little package for you
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And I'm going to make an announcement on this probably tomorrow on the main channel, just as a post. JonBenet is not over. We have not abandoned the project. We just need to rework how we're going to cover it. So, it's going to be a long documentary. It's going to be later this year.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And crazy thing is, it's still nowhere near as efficient as nuclear.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
yeah but being greedy to the point where you are allowing a hostile foreign nation to surpass you in technological advancement because in the short term you're making money is stupidity it is that is fair you ever play the game civilization yes it's also the same thing that happened in 2008 except instead of the banks it's the government yeah what's i i don't know the fact that just remember nobody can bail out the government uh-huh
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't know. I just feel like there's no good reason to not be doing it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You've been here a while. OG for sure. I didn't even have a beard yet.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You know, well, I'll give it a shot. I'll give Southern Ohio a shot.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Thanks for being here so long.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But my hope is that we will have, by the end of it, the single most comprehensive video on JonBenet Ramsey ever made. And... On the one hand, I want to do that because I find it to be a fascinating story of incompetence and deceit and tragedy, to be blunt about it. But also because I think that there are people alive today who are responsible for what happened to that girl.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Lodger sounds like a slur.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Stop. Dom, that's as close as you get. New goal. We're going to put up a poll to figure out what fans of the show are called. Give us suggestions in the comments. How many years have we done this? Give us suggestions. So here's what I need you guys to do. In the CTK video from Friday, go to the comments there and give us the suggestions so YouTube thinks you actually liked the video.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You just did. I know. But, like... Should we call them log pushers? No. That one's, I think, now the name for fans of my personal channel.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, God. Yeah, that's a good point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I'll give you something to make your throat hurt, boy.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Scared? Yeah. Oh, speaking of gifts... Whoever sent us the Sonichu Medallion, it came... I don't know what I was expecting. But what is this? Don't put it on.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, wait. That's a rifle. You're thinking about the Brown Bess. Yes, I am. Yeah, no, the Kentucky rifle was rifled. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Pennsylvania and Kentucky supplied a lot of riflemen to the war effort. It was us that were shooting officers.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Which, by the way, one of my favorite scenes from The Patriot is Mel Gibson's character just being like, we'll stop shooting your officers at the beginning of battle when you stop killing innocent people.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I think I covered that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We need, like, three employees right now. He needs an editor. Yep. I need a research assistant. And then we also need somebody whose job it is to just kind of manage stuff like that.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, like, I'd say at least, like, four grand a month.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, we're trying to be ethical business people.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It turns out there's a reason so many business people are unethical. It's hard to grow your business ethically. Time to fight ethical business practices. Damn, ethical business practices got him.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And somebody has to be willing to... Hang on. Somebody has to be willing to tell that story properly without fear of being sued. And I think the only way to do that is to go through all of the nitty-gritty details so that nobody can take it to court and say, oh, this is defamation. Because like we did with Sebastian Rogers, I want to be able to support every single thing I've said.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Like we, we had an opportunity to actually do something kind of cool and we ended up walking away from it for the most part because they were so focused on using AI.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And this is, I'm not going to name the company. I don't want to name and shame or anything. It's just different opinions on what was, what was responsible. And we just kind of left it where it was because we didn't want to be that involved with AI content.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, imagine you're out for a hike in the dark and you just see this approaching you. That's what it felt like to be an Irish person in the 1300s. St. Patrick's Day. We should have done a St. Patrick's Day show. I don't know why we didn't think of that. We're both sick. Well, yeah, but I already said it was going to be about Jamba Day. When are we always... We'll get to St. Patrick's Day.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Okay. AI should be the thing that gets you across the finish line, not the thing that forms the bulk of what you're doing. Exactly. Like, if... For example, I've been encouraging him to use AI programs to do, like, the stock image. The stock video stuff over our videos. Because at that point, it's not generating anything. It's not utilizing anyone else's work.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's just listening to what I'm saying and then selecting footage or images that match it from a paid-for stock library. That's a legitimate use of AI.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That doesn't surprise me.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
reminds me of i when china was like parading their navy around australia a few weeks ago i saw somebody who said uh bold moves for someone whose three gorges dam is within tomahawk distance oh horrible
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You know you used to be able to cross the Canadian border with your driver's license or a birth certificate?
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think, you know what we should do? We should just swap for a year. Just Canada gets Trump, we get whoever Canada just elected. They'd kill him. To be fair, we'd also probably kill their guy.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We did kill the robot in Philly. Oh, yeah. It was Canadian.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Well, don't send a robot to West Philadelphia.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Philly is one of the greatest cities in this country, and it is simultaneously one of the worst cities in this country. Amazing art, food, music, general culture, and then also just some of the most crime-ridden neighborhoods you've ever been to. It's amazing. You can go down to Broad Street and have top-of-the-line cuisine.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So that if I do end up pointing the finger at somebody, it's unassailable. And at the very least, it's unassailable in court. But preferably unassailable in general that nobody can argue with it. So it's still in the works. Now, I wanted to go back and talk about it a little bit because I've had a few months to think about it. Everything that's been going on and having some separation.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
You can go see a Broadway show that is being performed by the same Broadway cast. You can go and listen to the Philharmonic, and then you can go a mile to the north, and it is Zombieland.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Now, it's worse in Baltimore.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Baltimore, you could be in a really nice area, and then there's a bad street, and then you're in a really nice area again, and you don't know when it happens. Amanda and I stayed in a super sketchy Airbnb last year.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. Two years ago.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, I just really like City of God. And Augustine's story is kind of wild.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Ooh, actually that would, if anyone's interested in doing kind of a collaborative project, I've been looking at doing some stuff on weird Bible, some like Lorelage style videos. I just don't have the time to write them. But what I was thinking about doing was like the Bible in context.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So not necessarily scriptural interpretation or anything like that, but you know, here's the world of the book of Exodus and,
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
uh or you know the lives of the church fathers stuff like that so if anybody is interested in in helping with that we could work out that that might be something that we can afford uh to at least if you could like outline a script and then i can flesh it out that that kind of thing i'd have time for uh but that would be something that i i think we could hire somebody for at this point we i think we'd have the funding for that yeah that'd be cool especially if you're like in college and you're writing those papers anyway
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
then at that point you're just kind of getting paid for the thing you were already doing.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Now I got to look another thing up.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, those things are both in the works right now. The hard part with Pepperbox is that, like, we don't know what to do. We had a few ideas. The one that the guys liked best... is super expensive to produce. Yeah. Because we need a new ballistic gel dummy every month. And then we'd also have to dress it up as Bigfoot or Mothman.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah. So, I... I mean, the one I was like, oh, this would be sick, was doing, like, ghost hunting. But the editing... Ugh!
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Also, I apologize. I'm under the weather. So I'm a little stuffy. But... I was thinking back on the series and on the case. And I went into it... Honestly, I went into it without any opinion on who did it. I think... Do you remember me calling you a bunch that first week?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it would be a lot.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Exactly. So we're just working on figuring out what we're going to do for Pepperbox. We've had the conversation, though.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
If you've got ideas, leave them on the CTECA video so YouTube thinks you liked it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We've covered the Tsul Kalu, which is Cherokee, and is a giant.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it's part of the Bigfoot video. The second one. Yeah, the second one in that series. It might be. We are trying to figure that out.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We can take 12-hour shifts. How about that? We'll do a 48-hour, but we'll do it in shifts.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And that will probably involve everything from reactions to video games to us crying. Yeah.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I figured, but also I don't, I'm not saying that we plan on breaking up with our girlfriends or them breaking up on, on us with us.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
But, uh, no, I want, at least mine will not be a girlfriend at that point. She knows that. What are you doing over here? Ah, the Anabaptist thing. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one. That looks fun. The time the Amish took over Munster.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Good point. Good point. I did hate my job the week we did the Philadelphia experiment video. I hated making that video. You know this.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I called him nearly crying.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because I hated doing that video so much.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, YouTube was like, no. How dare you?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think that one, honestly, I don't think that one would have done so poorly if not for the age restriction. Yeah, agreed. I mean, it wasn't doing great, but I think it would have at least hit like 150K. Well, the fact that... Because it did hit 160 between the two uploads, so it probably would have done 200 or more.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think the way I planned on doing it, maybe I'll just move the timeline up.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
He got injections.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's why you never see his legs.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Dude has lost some weight. Good on him. Yeah, well done. He was during a weird rivalry the other night. He put his arm up for one second. I was like, oh, man's looking a little jacked. Good for him. I got to get jacked.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I think at first I was very suspicious of Patsy, and then it was... well, you know, it kind of has to have been John, but no, Burke makes more sense. I haven't considered the intruder theory, but to be perfectly honest, it just doesn't make any sense.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Is it unfortunately fitting, given the history of the channel? Yeah, but... We can't call them milkers. No.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It was a copy of National Geographic.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
crazy you mentioned that i i almost did that episode two weeks ago and then i was like oh this is so much stuff and i did not have my adderall because there was a shortage i have it again i actually purchased the book written by the private investigator for the brianna mayland case uh so i'm trying to decide whether to do those as one episode or dedicate an episode to each
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And what frustrates me there is that I do not for a second believe that somebody broke into that home that night, especially not through the basement window. I think Lou Smith was desperate to find a way that the parents were not responsible for this. I... And I think that that partially comes, A, from a place where he had done it before.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I don't know, because at first it was going to be like, oh, is this a serial killer? And then I did some research and I was like, it was not a serial killer at all. So both weird looking into them. Definitely have videos coming. Just as you guys know, I like to if something has been gone over many, many times, I only like to do it if I feel like I can add something. I think I can.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I just need time. So I'm working on it. All right, what else we got? We're almost done. We're in the clear.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, it makes me so angry as a Pennsylvanian that the reason so many people are against nuclear is that the media blew something that happened in Pennsylvania out of proportion because I don't know a single Pennsylvanian who's anti-nuclear. I think we're like number two or we're in like the top three in the U.S. in terms of nuclear production per capita.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I have literally never seen a coal or oil power plant in person in my life.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
That's what I mean, though, is I haven't seen an operational one.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
uh mom millennial remember oh right latro uh verdansk is coming soon we're gonna have to we're gonna have to jump back into the war zone together now that uh there's a reason to play there we go world only they bring back the mechanics from the 2019 version that'd be nice world wonder 8 1914 says i think i found a masonic sword at a thrift store you probably did yeah i put pictures in the related discord channel it's from the early 1900s it is i i have two it's probably the same thing also yes it is in fact limerick yep
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We could definitely hit Tuskegee Airmen on History Unhinged. We can hit a couple of Tuskegee things on History Unhinged. Speaking of which, we have an episode on the Tuskegee experiments. YouTube buried it. it's also possible that a number of people didn't watch it because of the subject matter. We don't want to make any assumptions.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Either YouTube didn't push it or people didn't watch it for unfortunate reasons. But I think that here's the thing.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, or the CDC.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, here's the thing. I probably shouldn't have marketed it as, like, look at this horrible thing we did to African Americans in this small town in Alabama. I probably should have marketed it as, look at this horrible thing the government did to our own people.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Found a case where everybody thought it was the parents, and then he was able to prove it wasn't. And then also because, as he said to Steve Thomas, a parent could never do that to a child. Which, like, a lot of parents have done that to their children. Casey Anthony is trying to make a comeback right now.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And then also to the Guatemalans. Yeah. It's one of the only videos I've ever had to give a content warning on because of how bad... Yeah, you know what? I should redo it down the line as the American Mengele. The doctor who was in charge of it. Because, oh my god, this man is, well was, thank god he's dead. He was a horrible human being.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The doctor in charge. Also, just to be clear, for those who don't know, first of all, I recommend watching the video. It's one of our more recent ones in terms of channel quality. It's from after I had the time to do things full-time. I think you were actually full-time editing at that point.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
For those who don't know, the CDC and its predecessor ran an experiment that began in the 1930s and ran through the mid-1970s. It was an experiment on untreated syphilis. And just a few years into it, we developed penicillin.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
The whole point of the experiment was they were like, well, we need to see how syphilis progresses and, you know, understand like how that works before we can look at treatment options. So they just let it run wild.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Now, they didn't need to do this because the Norwegians had, in fact, already done this study in a more ethical way, using documentation from existing patients in a time when there was no treatment for syphilis. So they didn't have to deliberately let anybody go and have untreated syphilis. They also told the people that were in the experiment they were being treated. They weren't.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
So there was no reason to do the experiment whatsoever, except for they made the argument that, well, maybe black people have syphilis differently. No. But yeah, briefly into the experiment, we developed penicillin. And there was no longer any need to study the effects of syphilis because you could cure it with a drug that had zero side effects beyond maybe a little nausea.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
And they kept it going until the 1970s. And this is the CDC at this point. The only reason it was shut down is because the media got wind. The only reason. Nobody ever faced charges. Nobody went to jail. I mean, it is a disgusting story. And it's the kind of thing that we should name and shame whenever possible.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Now it's just BuzzFeed listicles. Apparently the Babadook is a gay icon. That one's true. Okay, I'm done with you.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, right. It somehow ended up in the LGBT section.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Oh, no, you're spending too much time around your girlfriend.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I feel like if I were her, I would just want to remain in the shadows forever.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Yeah, and we were having a really good time with the people there. It was a good crew. Yeah, you guys are great.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It kind of does, which is a wild decision to make. But the point is, yeah, people do horrible things to their kids all the time. It happens many, many times a year. There was a... I mean, even within... Within the timeline of the JonBenet case, Patsy herself in that first interview on CNN references, I think the name was Susan Smith, I think. It's escaping me exactly what it was right now.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We were both feeling very defeated at about 6.30. Yeah. We rallied. Glad we did. And it worked. All right. Well, thank you, everybody, for being here. We will hopefully see you again next Monday. Don't know what the topic's going to be of that show. Might have to do with Vikings. Might not. And yeah, I'll be streaming probably Sons of the Forest on Friday night, I believe.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We need a good multiplayer ships game.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
I feel like if we had a big enough crew, the antics could be wonderful. I agree. And I have enough for a small crew.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
It's Napoleonic Mountain Blade. What? I'm going to show you some videos. You know the... Okay, you remember the viral video of the video game where the guy is playing as a Scottish Highlander? I'll show you right after the show.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Alright. Bye, everybody. Thanks for being here.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
There's a lot of Susans involved in this. I actually had a conversation with Jameson, Susan Bennett, who is very convinced that for some reason she needs to be the arbiter of all of this information that she supposedly has, even though she's some random... housewife in her 70s who lives in North Carolina. She wrote a play and inserted herself as a character into it.
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Personally, I think that the FBI should just subpoena everything she owns because, oh my God, the level of disdain I have for this woman after interacting with her. And I told her straight up, I was like, you can either help me or you can become part of the story. She decided she wants to be part of the story. Because again, you either provide me with what you have
The Lore Lads
We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
that should be public information at this point anyway, Or you are actively obstructing at this point. Why do you have this information? If you have it, there's no reason the rest of us can't, you know? So, I mean, we're going to, I'm going to have an entire segment dedicated to her and who she is and how she got involved.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
We'll get there. Because it actually is St. Patrick's Day. Can you put that back?
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Because as far as I'm concerned, the fact that she meddled in that case by trying to discredit Don Foster is, that's all I need. That's all I need to decide that she's got to go on to the, uh, her head goes on a pike too.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
she's not even getting a bag from it.
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We Need To Talk About the JonBenet Ramsey Case | Podcast Episode 162
Really weird thing to do.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Love it. Next. A real cartel pilot for 556 says, Matusi, I beg you, wear the maid outfit again for the sexy calendar. Get one for Roy. We crave the awoos. I'm not going to fit in that maid outfit anymore.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Kat and I try and keep things clean, but then we keep doing things.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
The problem is the time you take to clean is the time you then don't spend doing work. The other stuff. And then when you don't do the work, more work piles up. Yes. And then you have to go double down on that, and then things get dirty again. It's just a vicious cycle. It's true.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yep. Riley Reader for 499 says, Hi, been a follower for about two and a half years now. Love to watch you guys. Wondering if you've heard of slash had thoughts on the Idaho four murders and upcoming trial.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Oh my gosh. Yeah, brutal. Anarcho14 says, David Paul ID's nuts.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
And he doesn't ever say it directly, but he says something. Probably took these people.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
What was up? Wait, no, because there was a recent map in like 2007 that combined Pennsylvania and Delaware. Were we like considering annexing Delaware at one point?
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
No, because it looks gross on a map. I don't remember. It does look gross on a map. Delaware gives us nothing of value.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I've met a lot of nice people from there, but guys... Brutal. We're never going home tonight.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
They do have a train station. Griff for 10 bucks says, I think you'd love the original Deus Ex game. If not for the gameplay, then the story. It's still predicting real events to this date. Very least you need to watch the video Deus Ex dropping red pills. Okay.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yeah, it's a long list. Hamster Eater 96 for $20.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
What does that even mean, Hamster Eater? I feel like it's pretty self-explanatory.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
E-T-R. E-T-R. I think it's hamster eater.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I'm looking for the diplomacy. Yeah, yeah. So good. You guys should look into the case of Jean Francois Garip. See, he definitely mispronounced that. Yeah. He's a Canadian neuroscientist who is currently under investigation for the disappearance of his mentally challenged wife.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
That sounds like that was a marriage of opportunity and there may have been things happening at home that he was writing papers about. Ooh.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Francois, there we go. Garipi. Garip. Jean Francois Garip. I never took a lick of French.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Oh, you know that ultimate character quiz? Uh-huh. So we all took it last night, and it was funny because Kat and I got basically every main television show couple, but it was funny because some of them were reverse sex order. Oh, no. So, like... I was the guy from Grey's Anatomy. She was the woman. And like I was Richard Castle and she was Kate Beckett from Castle. But there was one.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Oh, God, what was it? Hang on. I have to pull it up because I took screenshots of it because it was funny. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
oh yeah I got Ilsa from Casablanca and she got the guy and I got I got Dr. Ellie Sattler from Jurassic Park and she got Richard Grant I got Aragorn which made me happy and yeah it was just really funny I also got Dean from Supernatural I got Lucius Fox from the Dark Knight series
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
okay so that was cool it's like a 140 question quiz that is all many personality based yeah so like you rank your personality based on these and they're just like it's slider based so it's percentage wise and it's like really in depth and it goes through like all these different things so it's kind of wild yeah it's very fun to try that yeah it's fun it's cool anyway as myself thank you
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Thomas Ahern says, is it true that Keith Richards wallet was found on Pendleton Mountain in 2021? Oh, Keith Reinhardt's.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I do still think there is an element of lacrosse and also Austin and some of these other smiley face killing scenarios. Not all of them, because there are definitely some that are fishy. I really do think there is something to, like, men getting drunk and going to the water either to relieve themselves, or I'd be really curious to see the terrain profile of some of these areas.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Underqualified Gunman for $5 says... That's it. Yep. Maybe you shouldn't be that, then. Not to distract from murder cases, but I recommend looking at the Doom mod Hideous Destructor. It's like a Tom Clancy game versus Demons. It also has Coop. It has what? Co-op, I believe, but it's written as Coop.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Matt Engineer said, Keith Richards' wallet could be found in the fossil record. Yeah, probably. Dude, he's like 80-something, and he's still just rocking it.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
No, no, heroin. That too. Yeah, he went hard in the 70s and 80s. He did stop, though. He's been sober since the 80s. He ripped cigs, but that's it. One of my favorite documentaries... I've been sober since last weekend. There you go.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
One of my favorite documentaries of all time is Keith Richards Under the Influence, and it's clear that the entire documentary, which was produced by Netflix, was almost entirely to promote the album that he was promoting in 2015. You said the word promote a lot of times there. I did, I did. But it's a really cool deep dive into his story, and also, he's one of the, like...
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I don't know, man. I've only seen Almost Famous. I don't know much more than that. Have you seen it? No. Have you seen it? Almost Famous? No. No, no, it's a movie from, like, the 90s.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yeah, it was Philip Seymour Hoffman was in it. Like, it's all about, like, groupie culture.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Sounds like an opportune location for cash.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Read the chat. The white trash pan for $2 says if you eat pasta and bread, you're a serial killer. Everybody eats pasta and bread. So we're all serial killers.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Because, like, Nashville... Well, that's the thing, but not just the right against the river, but I mean of the town. Yeah. Because my wonder... Riley Strain went uphill. And that's the thing, is Riley's the exception in that scenario. But my wonder is how many of these people were just kind of taking the path of least resistance.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Gomb says Aiden's pinky toe is longer than his big toe. Source, he sent feet pics on Discord server one time. It was weirdly impressive. Also, fam grows.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yeah, it was fun. Kellen says, so Pittsburgh doesn't exist because Ohio isn't real. Pittsburgh's not in Ohio. Yeah, but it's on the convergence of the Ohio River, so. Okay, that's fair.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
We should make, no, no, no. For deeper lore, the faking of the moon landing, but it was shot on location. Ohio's actually real, but it's subversively about how it's fake. It's kind of like Tartaria, but about Ohio. We're getting deep here. Also, Clementine's. What about them?
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Just Clementines? I love them. That's the problem. They were designed to be the downfall of humankind. And Clementine from the video game The Walking Dead was the canary in the coal mine. I'll let you defend that one.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
They're slightly smaller and, like, wider, aren't they? I don't know. Do I look like a citrus expert to you? Could you identify a clementine in a tangerine? No! Okay, so it wasn't...
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Oh, really? Does the bitter citrone still exist? I don't know. I don't know. Somebody send us a bitter citrone.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
And then he'll 1v1 each mayor. Yeah. Well, we have the swords. I'm in. We have the swords. Well, we were talking about doing the Boxing Day thing. What was that?
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
You'll just challenge other Pennsylvania mayors. That'd be amazing. You come out and dance in the ring, but then Brian shows up. He's just like, it's time to go. He names a champion. WhiteTrashPanda says, will the Bigfoot banner fit on the sloped ceiling behind Thornbussy? I can't tell how wide it is. Cameras are tricky. It might. We're not usually this wide for a camera.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
What about on that one? Yeah, it is. Go over towards me a little bit more. Yeah, now it's more visible.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
You didn't have to give out that information.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
how can you tell there's a raccoon in the way it's a big raccoon it really wasn't raccoons are big yeah
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Did somebody mention train history?
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
They did. Big fan. Big fan of trains. I know you're a big fan of trains. Huge fan. I don't know if Pete does.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
We are, actually. Thank God. A real cartel pilot for 223 says, Flat Earth is out. Flat Moon theorists arise. Ooh, I can get down with Flat Moon.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
No. But Jon Bernthal's in it. Oh, good. And he's always great. Sergeant Buck for five bucks says, I'm trying to come up with a Skyrim NPC dialogue joke, but the best I have is, huh, must have been the wind. Okay.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Something in Skyrim, I'm sure. Skyrim.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Have you ever played Grand Theft Auto?
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Have you watched Drinking Out of Cups?
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I will say though, like, and this is entirely anecdotal.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Daniel Franklin Jr. has been a member for 10 months and says, have y'all heard the song I'll Go Rhythm by Drag Dunder? Don't think I have.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Kayla Kelly is asking, when is the new Weird Bible?
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Jamo Preacher with Milk for 508 says, I made a deal with Mattis a year ago. Name a price, Mattis. Name a price for a Berserk lore video. You will get it. I don't care if it gets no views. I can't get past the first two pages, man.
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Hey, the key to any good storytelling is putting your audience directly in the action as soon as possible. I don't want to be in the action. You're in the action. You're in the demonic action.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
A real cartel pilot from 508 says, Chimp has informed me the moon is not flat, but rather it is made of government cheese and the M cave is a cheese bunker.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
It's so good because it's so true. It's so normalized for us.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
We were literally, Becky, Kat, and I were just talking about this.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
No, mine's going to be me like autism dumping about trains for 20 minutes. No, it won't be. It'll be you having to present something I write.
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We're going to have the first round is sober and we get to dump about something we care about. Okay. That like is niche that we normally wouldn't. And then after that, we all get hammered and then it's out of a hat. Whose are you presenting? Oh, so it's like you have to try and remember what they said and then also go along with their slides. So interesting. Interesting.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
And this was, yeah, yeah, the Pittsburgh.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Oh, the company. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say, I was like... Bro got out-trained.
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All right, so we have officially hit the time. Oh, thank God. Other than... Oh, no. Yeah, we got everything that was large. Oh, nice. Except for the last one says, Blocky Ninja, Hey, lads, tomorrow I'm starting my move with my wife to Scranton, Pennsylvania from Idaho. Any advice for fending off the local cryptids of PA?
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And like, here's the thing. Black bear won't just usually run away when you get big. It'll usually run away when it realizes you're even in remotely the same area as it is.
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Yeah. If at that, like I have been in the vicinity of several black bears and as soon as they recognize that I am there, they just sprint.
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they're actually very do you guys actually like camping it seems like you've been yeah the closest i've ever gotten was my buddy and i were sitting by a fire and we heard a little and we make funny they do make funny sounds yeah we anyway we looked at each other and we were like do you hear that and we heard a little i don't
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bear beater will survive on these things that's we'll be armed so like so we were like oh it definitely there was like there was just there's a thing behind that bush so we go out over onto the dock of the lake and we get maybe two steps onto the dock before we see there's a bear in the water and the bear hears the dock creak and looks at us and just goes
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Like, bro, Clover, do not read it. Yeah, exactly. It's such a good video. Also, by the way, just because I'm seeing a bunch of super chats coming now, just as a reminder, we are so appreciative and we love you guys so much. And thank you so much for sending all of them.
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Just sprints out of the water into the woods. It was so scary. They're always so scared of people other than those.
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I could be wrong. I think it's three.
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I think Mayor Peter tells the story of what happened to the Backyardigans.
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No, no, no. Maybe the title should be like,
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the aidans tell the truth about the backyardigans to mayor peter i don't know no i don't like it no it's been the most chaotic stream of all time yeah that's for sure like a children's story do i like flip the pictures and i show people it's a television show oh okay yeah yeah it's a good kids television show oh the backyard again yeah yeah yeah no i'm saying i'm saying see that that thing right there that's actually a teleprompter
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And they're like, wait, what? No, no, no, no, no. It'll be what, what, what? And then like the third one will be like, of course, this is what this is.
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It is the Bible. The random page that was opened to is Jeremiah 14, the killing fields.
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wait jeremiah what 14 11 through 12 or 11 14 11 essentially is where we start this is how we'll close the show we promise we're not going to keep ourselves longer than we have to our girlfriends are already going to be pissed oh i'm waiting oh you want me to start oh i well yeah i can't what was it 14 11 yeah 14 11 is the start through where i don't know because i don't have the heading the killing fields
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That sounds like something that Corinthians wouldn't like.
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I've already been confirmed. I'm fine. That's not how that works. For priestliness, I don't know.
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God said to me, don't pray that everything will turn out all right for these people. When they skip their meals in order to pray, I won't listen to a thing they say. What? When they redouble their prayers, bringing all kinds of offerings from their herds and crops, I'll not accept them. I'm finishing them off with war and famine and disease.
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And I said, but Master, God, their preachers have been telling them that everything is going to be all right. No war and no famine. That there's nothing to worry about. Then God said, these preachers are liars. And they used my name to cover their lies. I never sent them. I never commanded them. And I don't talk with them. The sermons they've been handing out are sheer illusion.
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Ties, tissues of lies, whistlings in the dark. Was this written about Joel Osteen? Right? So this is my verdict on them. All the preachers who preach using my name as their text, preachers I never sent in the first place, preachers who say war and famine will never come here... These preachers will die in war and by starvation. Yeah, I know. I'm kind of digging this passage.
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And the people to whom they've been preaching will end up as corpses, victims of war and starvation, thrown out into the streets of Jerusalem unburied, no funerals for them or their wives. I know. Give it to me. Give me the book. I know. Give me the book. You knew where it was going. Uh-oh.
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where where were you okay uh just let the last paragraph you're all missing selection uh in in 14 uh yeah go 14 like 14 through 16 14 okay uh yeah let me make sure it's right it's right right here yeah this yeah all right okay
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Yep, yep. I think that was my confusion. The Ohio, I thought, was the third one. Yep.
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Samuel dedicating the child to God.
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Oh, Daniel, okay, wait. Hang on, headings of Daniel at the beginning?
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Okay, okay, hang on. That's Daniel 2, Daniel 4. Oh, here we go. Oh, yeah. I'm not seeing any headings.
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Just as the writing of the disembodied hand.
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Yeah, this show is devolved over the years.
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I don't know what our job is anymore.
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I told Jesus that the tax collectors were the charges. And he went in and he did what nobody was capable of doing beforehand. Everybody else was scared to do it. But he had the guts. He went and he flipped the tables. He flipped the tables on the 1% of the 1%. We punch everybody here.
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I can understand where that comes from.
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I can see Jerusalem from my house. What?
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Oh, yeah. Honestly, it is also the first time we've heard it.
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$10,000 donation goal for the month of June. If we can get $10,000 in donation goals. What are you about to promise? We will read the entirety of the message in Trump accents. That's going to take such a long time. They're never going to give us $10,000. That's true. They'll never give us $10,000 in a month.
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Someone send us the art of the deal.
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I don't know. Yeah, I was just seeing which city does have the most bridges.
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Where is Revelation? At the end. I know, but like... Oh, is it in the... Oh, it is in here. 007. Hang on, hang on.
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Just wanted to make the bad things happen.
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It's too easy. I have not heard the president speak since before the inauguration, but my impression's getting better just from hearing each other do it.
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It's funny because he does the more elderly version. I do the 2016 version.
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Yeah, that'd be good. I think that might be a good Yellowstone one while we're gone.
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This sounds like a speech you would have given at Mar-a-Lago.
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He is. He's a... Chimp with a hand grenade. Yeah. Oh. There's a mild threat of violence there. Yeah.
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No. Bad. Bad. Canceled. What? No. What? No. Okay. Bye, everybody. Good night. We love you. Good night.
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I honestly... Like, we can talk about this. I think just the three Dyatlovs, just to have it a really concise Dyatlov story, I think would be good. Yeah, that'd be my opinion. Yeah, that's fine. Kamar in and of itself is its own thing.
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However, due to the fact that we do, in fact, need to sleep and it's, again, another short week, we are only going to answer super chats up until 745, or at least they come up until 745.
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That's fair. Yeah. I was shocked at how well documented those like cases actually were.
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That's why we had such a different conclusion, yeah.
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Well, also, the weather patterns of the day would have made, like, chemically induced, you know, physical responses incredibly hard to actually achieve, even if it was an accident.
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No, definitely not. And that's the thing. So my girlfriend Kat, she's a chemical engineer. One of the things that she's had to do in the past is dispersion models. And I talked to her. I was like, hey, so this is what the weather conditions were at the time. This is the location it was. This is the area.
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And she was like, you would have needed like billions of tons to have escaped in order to disperse at a level and a timeframe that would have actually been feasible for them to have experienced the system, the symptoms described in this scenario.
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Yes. If it's like $100,000 bajillion, then we will get it.
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Yeah, because I thought of whale wars. That is the reason that I thought about the wind is because I remembered that they used the they didn't use it themselves. They got it used upon them. The LRAD system. Yeah.
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the Japanese whaling fleet. And this is like in 2006. Wait, does Japan have like an official whaling fleet? They call them research vessels. I don't know if it's changed, but back in the early 2000s, they had a fleet of whaling ships where they would take whales for research purposes because it was legal to take a certain number of whales for research. Mm-hmm.
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But the argument by Whale Wars, which was an international like group of activists, essentially, is that weren't they like throwing grenades at whaling ships like vinegar bombs? So it was just like glass bottles.
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Yes. The only downside is that they were quite literally like that would have been piracy. Based. Yes, but, you know, in terms of... Based and Kenway-pilled. Their ship was called the Steve Irwin, so it would have been a little off-brand. Yeah. Yeah. So, they used the LRAD on them, and a number of the people got nauseous on that, so that made me think, like, okay, well...
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strong, like, you know, sound and strong, like, frequencies like that, is it possible that that could cause physical disruption to the body? So it was like, all right, well, let's look into it. And then it was so, for me, it was like, hey, maybe it was sound.
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And then you were like, oh, yeah, that makes sense, considering there was a typhoon happening, plus the effect of katabatic winds in coordination with that. Mongolian cyclone. Yeah, Mongolian cyclone, that's it. So, like, yeah, it was just kind of a piecing together of the true Holmes and Watson, House and Wilson moment.
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We want to give proper recognition to those who give us that much money.
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Yeah. No, no, they were phenomenal.
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It's pretty clear that that was at least part of what happened.
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We've gotten too used to doing a history unhinged. But no, in terms of the result of what happened, if it was the avalanche... they would not have gotten away from that.
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Also, when you look at the pictures of the tent and the descriptions of the tent... You had nine sets of footprints. Yeah, well, that's the thing. Not only that, but when you look at the actual physical evidence, the tent would not be in the same position that it was just last. Oh, the tent was standing up, yeah. That's the thing.
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If there was an avalanche avalanche, that would have been, at the very least, disturbed and not in the position it was set up in. It would have been mangled. Now, you could make the argument maybe they tried to reset it up. But the evidence suggests that that was not the case. So it is likely that maybe a slab avalanche collapsed the tent in and they had to leave.
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Times are tough and we appreciate anybody who's willing to donate at all.
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And that some of the injuries were as a result of that. But those injuries weren't necessarily what killed them for the majority of the people in the party.
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Yeah, I think it was Doroshenko and Doroshenko.
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You are not required to by any stretch of the imagination.
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They were also in foul weather too, weren't they? Like it wasn't like a high wind stormish scenario?
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Thank you for doing so, but especially because somebody I saw a chat come in earlier, times are tough for people right now. Yeah, no. You can't, do not feel guilty about it. It's all good. We'd much rather just be a source of
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My only guess would be they just were exhausted and they were like, we like we physically can't.
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Well, they also didn't have any of the physical disturbances from what anybody could tell, like Komar demanded, did they?
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Yeah. Is it possible? Because I didn't think about this, but like they didn't go up until like the spring when they actually could like manage to really.
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Oh, they did. Oh, okay. Yeah. I thought it was a while. Cause my thought was going to be like, if through snow melt, they had moved and like rolled down the hill slightly.
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Got it really quickly because someone asked about it. Can you explain the infrasound and katabatic winds effects on the body for people?
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Yeah, they had packed well. They had prepared well for the trip.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because her story, when she was interviewed, what, like three years later? Yeah. She gave a much different description of what had happened compared to what the story she told that.
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Yeah. Which, let's be fair, of the two options, what sounds more realistic?
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Honestly, better taste, also funnier.
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Yeah, and that's the thing is like, though a tabloid may be a tabloid, it doesn't mean that every story that comes from them is bad. Yeah. One of the funny examples of that is, you're familiar with Playboy, right? Yeah. Well, apparently back in the day, in like the 60s, 70s, and 80s, they were notorious for having incredibly in-depth and well-presented- Oh, journalism, yeah.
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Spotlight journalistic articles, which-
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you know i didn't know about that until i was you know much older um but yeah i think my dad told me at one point he was like yeah there were a lot of guys back in those days that would get it for the sports like journalism because they would highlight like specific athletes in that story and they get like exclusive interviews i've never seen a playboy in person in my life same so i i i believe it do they still make hard copies make something hard
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Speaking of that kind of comment, it is 746. Okay. We have a lot of Super Chats that came in. Do we want to transfer over to that?
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Also, after your final point, I want to get your opinions on this most recent case that we covered, just out of curiosity for myself. Yes. Okay.
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There's no way that's real. That's amazing. Well, you answer that call.
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Somebody has to have made that YouTube video. There's gotta be a video.
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Oh, guys, what do you think about us doing BS on a different channel where we literally just come up with random conspiracy theories and then rant about it for an hour? Like, the deep, dark truth behind the Backyardigans is actually, like, it's a representation for the Manson family? Like, makes no sense. Is not real.
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No, no, no, but just for clarification in terms of the math of that, what did they fall onto?
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Okay, but on the off chance it was rock.
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Because if it was two meters... By the time they hit the bottom of those two meters, they would have accelerated to 44 miles an hour. In free fall. Yeah, 10 meters per second.
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Yeah, 20 meters per second is the maximum velocity they would have hit over two meters because gravity's acceleration is 9.8, but like 10 meters per second per second. So if you start at zero, by the time you hit one meter down, you'll be at 10 meters per second. So two meters down, you'll be at 20 meters per second. And 20 meters per second converted to miles per hour is 44.
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I mean, anybody in chat, confirm me.
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So really, I just wanted to kind of get your general thoughts on the case. I know it was a relatively short one in terms of really frustrating.
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Yeah. So I guess in that regard, be considering that... I don't... Oh, yeah, we didn't talk about the previous one either because we didn't have show last week. Oh, yeah. What were your thoughts on Barbara? And what were your thoughts on... What were the names of the guys again? It was Jim... Tom Young and Keith Reinhardt. Tom Young and Keith Reinhardt.
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So, yeah, just quick, quick, curious, you know, brief summarizations of your thoughts beyond what were provided in the Friday videos.
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This this is this is essentially us attempting to start making up for not having done any of the donation goals.
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I couldn't find him online at all either.
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I mean, yeah, that's the biggest thing that stuck out to me was the fact that the dogs did not pick up any usable scent at all.
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And there was no rain. There was no any like weather or anything that would mess with them.
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Wait, there are some great ones coming in. The moon landing was faked, but they filmed on location. They filmed on the moon, but they were filming a faked version of the landing.
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Yeah, it was a relatively new organization.
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The only twisted logic I can imagine is... you're a vet, you've got PTSD, you're taking care of this dog and you know this dog loves you and you know that your death is really probably only going to affect this dog.
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So maybe there's a twisted sense of morality and like, well, if he's not alive to feel the pain.
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At least I'm not abandoning him. So like I can see that it's, that's brutal. But then again, a Green Beret Vietnam vet probably capable of making that decision, at least in my opinion.
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Earlier, and then... They didn't film it.
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So they had to re-film it. I like that. And they flew Stanley Kubrick into the moon to shoot the moon landing. I love it. I'm all in. Into the moon. They shot him into the moon. Directly into the moon. No, I love it. What else do we have here? Um...
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Yeah, because if anything, he would have been like, thank God, how can I pitch in?
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Yeah, which then suggests, is this a scenario in which maybe the police were familiar with certain elements of this situation?
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Would not be the first time in Colorado specific elements of the law enforcement did not intend to investigate something for a certain reason.
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No, I mean, at least, at the very least, should not have been.
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For what period of time? He had been there for two months. Yeah, so that would have been what?
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Well, now that I know that that's in modern money, it doesn't surprise me that much, to be completely honest with you.
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We know what his financial situation was. We know he was secure.
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So you're not going to make a ton of money doing that.
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Yeah, the only thing I can think of is pride. Maybe? That's not a good solution in my mind. But pride to borrow money? Oh, yeah. To not borrow money specifically. But you did borrow money. Yeah, see, that's weird. That's the thing.
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Yeah, that doesn't make any sense at all. Especially if he's having consistent contact with his wife.
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Yeah. Yeah, none of that makes any sense at all.
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The only pot or hash, at least unless you've got harder drugs.
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It would, but if he's throwing all these parties or at least attending all these parties. Yeah, he's attending.
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Yeah. Unless someone is actually actively trying to prevent him from releasing it.
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Yeah. No, there's definitely enough weird details to accumulate into, yeah, there's something weird going on here.
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We do, and the first one I'm going to do is one that actually came after 7.45, but primarily because it was for $50 from Honor's Place. Oh, boy. And specifically, I think you're going to be very interested in this one because you've definitely had opinions about this in the past.
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It is, what are your thoughts on when successful career-long archaeologists or geologists propose findings that don't work with current historical consensus and get their careers blacklisted? Look at Virginia Steen McKintry's discovery of Heokla, for example.
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It's Virginia Steen, S-T-E-E-N. McIntyre? Yeah, McIntyre. I don't know why I couldn't read that properly. It's okay. For an Irishman, that was very bad of me. But just like, you know, the phenomena overall.
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Which is technically how it works right now.
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Well, the biggest thing that would have to happen is we would have to repeal the Clinton era act that capped CEO and ownership salaries and then make it illegal to take out loans against stock because that's how they're getting around it right now.
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In the Clinton administration, they passed a piece of legislation that capped the amount of money that an owner and CEO can make from a company at $20 million. Okay. Because their whole mindset was like, it's immoral to be able to make more than that.
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So the workaround that's currently happening is that a lot of the board members and owners and CEOs of these Fortune 500 and even smaller companies... are making money by leveraging their stock ownership in their companies. And they're going to banks like Bank of America and other places like that, and they're saying, this is the amount of money I have in stocks. Mm-hmm.
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Well, how long was he mayor before he did that? Well, he also was a veteran, so that probably helped him a bit. True.
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Will you give me a loan for $6 billion and use my ownership in the company as collateral? Okay. And they essentially just live off of loans from these banks. And then when it gets to the point where they want to up it or change it or whatever, they just refinance. And they never actually end up really paying back the loans. They just keep leveraging their stock options.
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Worst case scenario, they sell off some stock to pay for interest for a loan, but then they just refinance again on their other stock options to then get more money. That's how the current billionaire class is existing. It's not that they're actually getting money from the companies that they are either owning or working for. It's that they're leveraging their stake in those companies.
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It would, but unfortunately that's the only thing.
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You know, it's all about incentives. That's all it is.
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We were talking specifically about... Oh, the archaeologists and stuff. Yeah.
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Well, it reminds me also the story of there's a great, I think it's Veritasium who did the video on it. Great story about the guy who made the blue led. Okay. Uh, are you aware of anything of this story?
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So apparently we've had LED technology for quite a while, like several decades. The problem is, is that for a large portion of the history of LEDs, they only had green and red. So they were really only useful in niche circumstances where you could use green and red. Okay. Because the problem was is that without blue in that spectrum, you couldn't make white. Okay.
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Because if you're not aware, with light, all colors equal white. Okay. the opposite is true for paint. All colors equals black and paint with pigments, but with white, you need every color in the spectrum in order to get a white light. So for decades, they only had green and red and Mormonism.
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Horrible. Anyway, so for decades, people were trying to figure out how to make the blue LED. It was considered near impossible, if not impossible. The main problem primarily was they understood certain elements that would allow them to get it to emit blue, but it was nowhere near strong enough. Okay. It was just really weak. It wouldn't work.
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And there was this one guy from a company in Japan who was, I would love one if you're getting one. Yes, please. Surprise me. Um, but there was this one guy from a company in Japan who was working on R and D for it. And I'm going to have a really, really brief version of this story. So I suggest you watch the Veritasium video on it, but essentially Pearson ranch sponsor us. Yeah, please.
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We love these. We love your meat sticks. I have a meat bucket full of meat sticks. But essentially, for I think over a decade, he spent just grinding in a lab in Florida. And he did not... He was not a... Like...
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genuine researcher in the sense that he had not been published because he had never gone to a university and you weren't allowed to be published at the time i don't know if it's still the case unless you had attended a university and had a degree depends on the journal but so he all these other people were either working on their thesis or they were working in the field and they were just kind of ignoring him because he wasn't published
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And he just spent 12 days every day, every day, 12, sorry, 12 hours a day, every single day for over a year working on this machine to create a mist of crystals on a silicon disc, or no, sorry, like multiple layers of different metals in order to create a crystal to then create another crystal on top of it to be able to put it inside of an LED mechanism to create a blue LED.
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And it was just trial and error, 12 hours a day, every day for over a year. He finally figured it out. And he was the guy who gave us the blue led and the company almost shut him down. And in the end he was given almost nothing. He was given almost no recognition, but he is directly responsible for
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For every single smartphone screen, television screen, computer screen, these lights, every single thing that you have that has an LED in it, he is the reason that we now have them. And he has received basically no royalties from it. He did file a lawsuit at one point, and I think he won, or at least they settled. But he's still working on improving LEDs and things like that to this day. Easy.
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There's also the other one from Norristown that we still need to schedule that call. Yes, we do.
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But yeah, wild stories. Again, a really good example of if you know you're right, sometimes history can work out for you. But that is the exception, not the rule in those circumstances.
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Anyway, going back to the start, there's no way we're getting through all these.
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Because there's a ton of info on that. Apparently she has literally like crates of information about it. So.
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Should we be doing a video about the weird cultiness of Egyptology?
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I will say, just at a glance, with that context in mind, I can absolutely see where he's coming from with water erosion.
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Because it looks like there is a specific level right under the chin... where the erosion is drastically different than above, which would indicate at some point maybe this element was below water. And it specifically, with the striations, the different striations at different levels, reminds me of what it looks like on the sides of, like, the Grand... Or not the Grand Canyon, the Hoover Dam.
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Yeah. When the water's at a lower level. And you can see, like, the different points at which it had been at different levels and the different striations in the rock face. Like... It makes a lot of sense to me. I don't know why it would be like you said. I don't know why that would be so controversial.
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Did you hear? I think it was Kat told me today. Apparently there is a new serial killer in Massachusetts right now. I did not look into this at all, but apparently over the last month, like 20-some bodies have been discovered. Wow. Yeah. Let's look this up.
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Yeah, you have been pretty good about being conscientious and courteous to that element of it.
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Yeah, there's a difference between being misinformed and intending to misinform.
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yes also cat if you want to bring the egyptology book over and explain to us what we're missing feel more than free we do have the third seat oh yeah so uh come on by because i don't think i'll be back anytime soon unfortunately um considering that was one question and that was a half hour yeah well that was a big question it was i'm sure we'll get through most of them faster than that um you want to up you want a piece okay come on the good you know you want a meat stick come on come on
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Uh, Jamo preacher of the milk for 20 bucks says, uh, here, here we go. We got a, we, we got a proper, we got a proper quote incoming. Oh, good God. Milk of these four, 10 through 13 quote, those outside of the walls wish for the milk. Give unto us the milk. We wish to enter the kingdom. They cried. King Metosia looked at town upon them with pity and called upon the prophet of the milk.
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Are we getting a milk Bible now? You know, I wonder, you ready? Ready? Here's a milk translation. Here's a challenge. No, no, no. Here's a challenge. Jamo, Gomb, and whoever else you guys have in that group chat. There was a group chat? Yeah, I was made aware of a group chat where they come up with these, apparently. Love it, by the way. What is going on?
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If you guys can come up with a full milk translation of the Bible before we do the sexy calendar, this will motivate us to get it done.
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I don't know. What would we do? What would we give them?
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Yeah, that's valid. How do you feel about milk and pizza? Huh? Consuming milk while eating pizza.
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I think that's part of it, because there were members of my family apparently growing up that would have milk with pasta and or pizza. Sin. Yeah.
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We're going to find out. Is there a New England serial killer, former FBI agent, yada, yada, yada. Let's see.
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Oh, yeah, we have a lot of anecdotal evidence that giving your children milk while they are growing young lads and lasses is effective because all of us short members here at the lodge did not consume milk while growing, and all of our friends who are six foot and above mainlined that.
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Very anecdotal, but there's a trend of correlation here.
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It's a big golden shiny with a red gem on the cover, and it was the biggest deal. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing those. Kat's talking about the Scholastic Book Fairy technology book. Yeah. Yeah, we got to get our hands on that one. All right, anyway. A7XMShadows19 for $9.99 says, My brothers, I hath bad news. Oh, no.
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I got fired from my forklift job and now worry about finance, so I discontinue my Patreon. I pray I find something better, but my hopes are not the best these days.
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Sorry to hear about the job. That genuinely sucks. Hopefully there's something... Did you forge your forklift certification?
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I know it's a point of pride, but you gotta earn it.
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Was it a layoff or was it Marv style?
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You're probably not getting very far, though.
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It's cold in here. It's nice, though.
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Hang on, look at the one subway guy. The what's your take guy? No. The guy, what's your take? Where he would interview people on the subway and be like, what's your take? And just about random stuff.
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He's now doing celebrity interviews in the same format.
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Yep. The world is really shifting towards content creators becoming like the pipeline. Yeah. It's weird. Hawk Tua? On that thing? I don't know. What happened to her?
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You are. The air conditioning bit. She has an IQ that could keep meat food safe. No, I don't mean that. I'm just thinking of ideas now. I'm not trying to be mean.
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Is it? I think so. It's a shame it's kind of like a tabloid now.
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That's the problem is like some people can just get like really deep into it. Sometimes it's trains. Sometimes it's stuff like that.
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Yeah, I don't know. Some people want to be special. There's some weird racism in that.
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Guys, we did like four hours worth of content on Tartaria.
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Yep. Do it. Uh, next is for one 99 said, hi, always nice to see you guys live. Nice to be live. Whiskey bill for five bucks says, Hey guys, can you check out the Jamison family case out of a fool? Uh,
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He did say apparently there's a book. It's called The Vanishing at Smokestack Hollow, and it's a good reference.
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Yeah, he just texted saying he's on the porch.
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Yeah, anyway. Yeah, that's one of the biggest problems that we've been running into with a variety of different topics that we've been looking into discussing is there is frequently not a lot of information on some of these things that makes it hard to make a normal length video, at least what is normal for us of like roughly 45 minutes.
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And it's definitely been difficult in the last few months because there will be
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topics that mattis will go into in terms of research for a day or two and then kind of get to the bottom and get to the realization that like oh there isn't enough here for a viable video and then we have to kind of like scramble and figure out what exactly we're going to do i will move let me stick okay cool um anyway next from pseudo legend for 10 bucks says your resident dino nerd is here to call you lads goofy goobers all hail milkasaurus matthias
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I don't know. I need to see this picture though.
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I really hope they sponsor us so we can keep eating these all the time. Me too, yeah. Great. WafflesCowPig, amazing name for 20 bucks, says, Hello, great lore lads and lodge friends. I bring forth a question about the recent whistleblowing about the Buffalo public school system from Rich and the Unsubcast podcast and wanted the lodge to weigh in. Thanks again, guys.
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No, I listened to their first one while I was doing work on the car and, or no, what was I working on? I was working on something. Uh, I don't know why I said car. I haven't worked on the car in ages. Um, Yeah, it seems brutal. Oh, no. I was in the car on the way to the dentist. That's why. Anyway, unimportant. Good job. Yeah.
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I mean, I think it'd be very much worth us looking into in terms of getting them on the show to discuss it.
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Seeing what kind of digging we might be able to do because it's bad.
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Arbor Irrigation Installer for 545 says, Lost my job as an electronics engineer to Doge, but I just landed a new one. Gone is good and Doge is still based.
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Yeah, that's wicked for you to have lost your job due to Doge and still consider it based. That's your... You know, I mean, if you support the mission.
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Did you feel your job was unnecessary?
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Yeah, because that's a wild position to have.
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The post office, in order to work in an equitable way, is kind of designed to lose money.
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JMO, we did read the Milk Super Chat.
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Yeah, I feel like a really simple way to look at it is if Theodore Roosevelt would not have agreed with it, it's probably not on the right track. True, yeah. Teddy really knew his stuff. So the whole cutting the national parks thing...
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I feel like we don't talk about that enough. We do not. Should we do a video on that?
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This is the only reason among... No, this is one of the main reasons, I should say, that we need to be on Pop Culture Crisis more frequently because we need an actual proper show to talk about this.
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I'm currently working on finding out information about this, but unfortunately the internet is being incredibly slow. But from what is loading on local 25 news is that in some corners of social media like Facebook, the idea that a serial killer could be on the prowl in New England is getting more popular. The Facebook group New England SK has nearly 9000 members.
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Yeah, he has gone full Schitt's Gale.
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Imagine if he and Kendrick ever got into a beef. I think someone would actually die. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, they said a lot of stuff in there. Yeah. Even like junior and senior albums.
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Like American Idiot, the song itself.
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Has the F slur in it. It's not the only one. Yeah.
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Phenomenal album. 21st Century Breakdown also.
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Yeah. Which song? It's got a weird name. I'm fairly confident Highway to Hell by ACDC also uses the N-word. Really? She's on a white man ride. Yeah. Nobody really recognizes that in the lyrics, but yeah, I didn't notice that.
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I love the drum beat on holiday. Great drum beat. It's so good.
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OK, anyway. Oh, yeah. Our irrigation installer sent another super chat as a follow up saying, yes, we did defense R&D. It was cool, but wasteful.
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No, defense R&D is about the best R&D you could probably have.
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Also, Arbor, without getting into classified stuff... No, no, no, no. Or, or, or... Or getting into classified stuff. Or... What were you guys doing that could have been deemed wasteful as defense R&D? Was it like adding extra soy to milk to make... Adding extra chromosomes to marines? No, then they'd be normal. Stop it. I'm sorry. I love all my Marine friends and family members.
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Anyway, moving on. Curious Unicorn has been a member for five months. Thank you. Sarah Vibes for five bucks says, I finally make the live chat. You guys are great. Thank you very much. Flaw says, allegedly, milk. Okay. Broken Valor for five bucks says, whenever y'all start looking for editors, I'd love the audition. Would be a dream come true to work for y'all.
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And apparently they've been discussing this specific topic, which is since the beginning of March, seven bodies have turned up in Connecticut, Rhode Island and Massachusetts. Some of the bodies are unidentified remains. The bodies discovered in Groton and killingly. There's really, really killingly.
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Believe it or not, we just had this conversation today.
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Please send an email to thelorelogicgmail.com and I will get back to you this week because we are looking forward to potentially doing that. I will not.
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Maybe that should be the challenge. If we hit 100,000 subscribers on History Unhinged by the end of the year, we do a 24-hour livestream.
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Spread the word. We're committing to it now. Steven may not, but we are.
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Yeah, he might piss in a towel warmer again.
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That's going to be fun. That's going to take editing. Anyway, yeah, please send me an email because I will get back to you because please take editing off my hands and we will compensate you fairly because we want to. We don't want to make people work for things or less than, you know, is fair. Yeah, that would be slavery. That would be. And we are very much not big fans of that. No, not at all.
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I knew it was coming. The Rude Canadian for Canadian Two Bucks says... Asmora Namard... Huh? Hang on, hang on, no, no, no, no, no. Let me try again. Don't need my help. Asmora Namardic... Dastin... Koldakar... Those are sounds. That's all one word. Where? What? That is all this one right here. I don't know. That was... He's trying to get us to summon a demon of some kind.
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Rude Canadian that was in fact rude. Killing the official data says allegedly Clem.
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yes so kellen you're the other one in the group um arbor's back again for 762 saying i have a first gender or i have a first generation rafter i take trail riding in lower appalachia uh it has the colorado plate what is it oh okay it's a it's a vanity plate okay i just want to make sure you weren't giving your like actual plate number out uh A-1-L-D-Z-R-2 on the front. So Kildesers. Mm-hmm.
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Kildeser. Oh, Kildeser. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you all would appreciate it.
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I think it's almost overtaken it, yeah.
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Patrick McNeely for two bucks says, when will flaw be a guest on the show? I guess we were supposed to have him. You were? Well, yeah, because he was here. That's true.
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But he had to leave before Monday. He had to leave.
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So he was going to be. So it's whenever he can manage to just hang through a Monday night. Yeah. Hobosam21 for five bucks says, listening while running a 2022 Schwinn. Schwing? 31 XP. Schwing. Schwing and a miss. Also rise up 7.3 DeLauron gang. DeLaurian? DeLaurian. Yeah. Yeah.
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Connecticut are close to a Rhode Island case. So far, law enforcement is not connecting the cases.
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However, the talk online has been so loud that recently Groton, Connecticut police issued a statement that said in part, quote, regarding references circulating on social media about incidents in the state of Rhode Island, we currently have no information connecting those events to any of the incidents in Groton. So it sounds like it might be a little bit of BS.
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You're so pure. Tread has 2.4 million.
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That makes me so happy. It has been a dream of mine ever since I learned of this story when I was eight years old to make a documentary about it. And we did. And we did. And when we made it, I was like, I want this to be the best one on YouTube. And it is. And we did it. I'm so excited. So happy about it.
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Abigail Stewart, a member of Eight Months, says, you can put your number on the no-call registry for free greatly cuts... Oh, for free, it greatly cuts the number of spam calls down. Ooh. The what? The no-call registry. So you might have to look into that. Arbor's back saying, God made Samson's story a cautionary tale of BDSM. Thoughts? What?
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Arbor, the guy who was fired due to Doge, says, God made Samson's story a cautionary tale of BDSM. Thoughts? Thank God Wendigoon's not here.
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Incredible. Kellen says, was the call from Kunkelman Chevrolet? RCR crew.
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Hope it is, and we have to go if it is.
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We have to go. Then we have to stop in Allentown so Kat can sell jewelry. And then we'll come back.
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We have to go. We have to go use the Kunkel Town rod. Okay.
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We have to make a friend on Big Bob Lane. We're just going to knock on doors and hope someone answers with a bush peach.
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Also, somebody get me Bush Apple. I can't find it anywhere. Not that I've really tried that hard, but I want it. Libetslam for two bucks says, you guys make life easier. Thanks for existing. Oh, thank you. Thank you for watching. You guys make our lives easier. It's a nice symbiotic relationship, and we appreciate it. Absolute Zero has been a member for three months.
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This place... Brother, we're going to Kunkel Town. I'm writing this place down. This has to happen. This sounds so good. There's a gun shop in Kunkel Town.
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farming community yeah actually kind of idyllic yo i bet you you know what cheap land i'm going to zillow i'm seeing if we can buy property in kunkle town look what you guys have done or no look at the random spam call is done this was their goal it's a realtor office they're all reality offices i Matt Engineer is saying, this is your opportunity to learn to swear in Hindi. Okay.
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Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. There is a $1.49 million property.
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Gomp says if you're not piss your pants mad about the windows being monopolized, then you need another shot of Bush Light Apple. I have no idea how to react to that statement.
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That's true. yeah i mean great point so there's no way to know there's no real way to know let's go find him hang on hang on that was april 18th okay may 2nd from fox title headline 12th body yep hang on stop just just go disable the ad blocker it's up in the corner okay uh no no you just you just click on the ad block symbol yeah there you go pause on this site
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Yes. But when you have a nice, smooth-riding gladiator... The 10K1 is in Gilbert.
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When you have a nice, smooth-riding Jeep gladiator... Just about 10 miles north of Kungle Town, we have got effort. That's great. Okay, wait. Hang on. I love this state. Elena DeHaller, Werewolf Queen, gave us another $50 saying, my main questions on Friday's video are, number one, if Barbara was actually on the trail when she disappeared, why haven't we found her body?
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Number two, if she wasn't on the trail, why has no one heard from her since then? Metal pot lid plus spoon equals scam calls hang up.
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Did they ever look at the bottom of that? Yeah. The overlook? Okay. Yeah, fair enough. Archie. All right. Duo Black Rose says, you seen the bullshit compromise the Ways and Means Committee came to me with the Hearing Protection Act? What? Huh? Hang on. Duo Black, what?
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Essentially, I'm assuming, have you seen the bullshit compromise the Ways and Means Committee came to with the Hearing Protection Act?
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No, we haven't. Guess I'll look that one up. Yeah, you look that one up. I'll read the next one. Potatoes for Seamus says, Hail the new Pope Aiden. Memes in the Discord. Potato, potato, potato, potato. I don't want to be the Pope. Potato, potato, potato, potato. Potato, potato, potato, potato. What is happening? He put potato emojis, so I said potato, potato, potato. Oh, my God.
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I will read the potato emojis with effort PA. Scrap Kim Carson for five bucks says, Chicago Pope ushers in 50 years of White Sox and Bears championship wins. Explain that, atheists. Christ is king and deep dish is back on the menu.
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Oh, we'll look into it. Sheave Gaming for five bucks says, would you ever do a video on the Salem Witch Trials? If you know the play The Crucible, then John Proctor is probably buried under my high school. Didn't we do one on Salem Witch Trials like three years ago?
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I think I'm thinking of the Bell Witch. Probably. Yeah. We should do that this October. Okay. Yeah. That works. I'll try and remember to put it in the sheet. Actually, I'll put it in right now. October. Okay. Not that. Record their topic. Cool. All right, it's in there. Nice. Thank you for the suggestion. All right.
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A real cartel pilot for 1022 says, Milk Maestre, Maester of the Milk, the Lodge, the Good Boys, the Welsh. I have emerged from my slumber to swing a wiffle ball bat at the bee's nest and implore you, what is your wisdom? What? What? Who sent that? That was a real cartel pilot. What is our wisdom about what? Just in general? No, no, no.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Specifically, I believe it's in reference to swinging a wiffle ball bat at a bee's nest.
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Or a power washer. Actually, really, just a squirt bottle full of soapy water will do the trick.
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No, that does make them suffer, kind of. Yeah, it drowns them. Because they breathe through their skin.
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All right, there we go. New England serial killer fears stoked by 12th body found in three months, two in the same small town. Authorities in New England found a body behind a school in Massachusetts and are suspecting foul play, adding to the number of people found dead in the region since February. The Bristol County District Attorney's Office said Stephen Myers, 39...
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They breathe through the holes in their skin, and the surfactant of the soap mixed in with the water makes them... So they suffocate. Yeah, yeah. They basically just drown. As they should. Yeah. I've done that many times because they were on my balcony. That's fair. I didn't want them on my balcony.
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The ricochets could be dangerous. It'll be fun. Yeah.
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Snakebite Sam for $5 says, Nothing ever happens. Stocks are tanking, Lorledes. Also extremely topical and hot button political question. Bourbon or Bonaparte? Bourbon.
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There was something I was going to look up and now I forget what it is. Gomb is saying that he's bringing his lesbian windowsy bodyguards to Blobfest and they want autographs and head. They want autographs and head.
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And we're all out of pen. No, I'm kidding.
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I'm sorry. The joke had to be made. Yeah, not from us, but I'm sure there are plenty of people in town. This is one of the gayest towns in PA. That's not derogatory. There's just a lot of like non straight people here. It makes it really fun.
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Extremely. So like I said, probably someone in town, not us. We are happily.
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She wanted to experiment. Incredible. Moving swiftly along. Arbor's back. Oh, no, wait. We already read that. Did you write that twice? Maybe. Yeah, you definitely read that or wrote that about your Raptor twice. Perchance. Real William White says, Monetary stress lure laddies uwu. We're sorry, lure daddies uwu. Okay. This is a job.
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Oh. You guys are great. All right. Come on. Come on. Let's get through these. Patrick McNeely says, A true In Our Backyard video would have been about the Princess Doe case. Granted, it's my backyard, but it still stands.
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was found behind Bristol Plymouth High School in Taunton, Massachusetts, at a construction site early Wednesday morning, according to Boston 25. Officials said Myers was shot one time and was found deceased. Authorities said there isn't a connection between Myers and the school.
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Anything goes. That's the best part about the town.
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I mean, ideally not. No, no, no. There's always something on the menu at Rivertown. Let's see. A7XMShadows19 says, I know how to raise and care for cattle if you need ranch hands for the cult. After all, I need a job now. Well, welcome.
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But in a statement, the Bristol Plymouth High School in Taunton told WPRI there was no threat to students or staff and the building wasn't placed on lockdown. However, Myers is the 12th body to have been found since February in the New England area, fueling fears online that there could be a serial killer in the area.
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No, no, no, no. I'm going to upset you right now. What?
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You know what this sounds a lot like? This sounds like communism.
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When communism is done right, no one's forced to live there.
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You're still the mayor of Phoenixville, but you're also the deputy mayor of this random culture in Montana.
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Oh, the 24-hour history. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's if we hit 100,000 subscribers on History Unhinged by the end of the year.
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We just have to accept that we're no longer ever going to be as sexy as we ever thought we were.
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I agree. I think we accept it. I think we make it sexy in the sense of, like, we actually look gross, but we do things that would seem sexy. Like, we're in lingerie, but we have beer guts. I think that's the vibe.
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right somebody i'm sure or at the very least people will love a shocking number of men who were in my dms early on in my career would love that just get a proposition in a super chat oh no you want me to read it i don't want you to but you should uh the proposition was from feral oh good god says aiden mattis do you fancy beautiful indian women love your mind find me with a kissy face do not redeem
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Because you can hear 16 other people on phone calls in the background.
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There is a reason that your voice is provided to the economy.
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Yeah. Yeah. We get into heavy topics on this show.
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Oh, yeah. On March 25th, a separate body was found in Taunton. The individual was identified as Samuel Stovall, 51, and authorities said his death hasn't been deemed suspicious. New England law enforcement officials have so far denied these deaths are connected with a serial killer.
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The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I don't remember which one it is. They all want me to read something to you, but I don't know which one it is.
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The person who propositioned you is now sad.
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We did watch the Jim Carrey comedy fun with Dick and Jane last night. Terrible name for a film. It's based off the books from the 60s.
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I know. Uh, we didn't finish it because we were all tired, but it is a hilarious movie. Do you guys know the premise?
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It was, it was released in 2005. Jim Carrey works at like a big corporation as like a communications guy, uh, gets promoted to then go on air to like Dateline NBC and, and be interviewed about, unaware, he goes on live and they're like, so why is the CEO of your company offloaded 90% of his shares in the company over the last year?
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However, in early March, detectives found the body of Paige Fannin, 35, in the Norwalk River in Norwalk, Connecticut, and the body of Megan Meredith, 45, of Springfield, Massachusetts, was found on March 22nd. On March 6th, a human skull was found in a wooded area off Route 3 in Plymouth, Massachusetts, and authorities have not released any further details.
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And what are all these accusations of people being indicted for forging documents? And they have like a thing about the value of the stock just tanking next to them. Every one of the company loses their jobs. It's called Globadine. Alec Baldwin plays the most stereotypical like CEO from like the Bush administration era economy of all time. And then they end up over the course of time.
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Jim Carrey and his wife in the movie then have to start robbing places in order to make enough money to exist. They try everything all the way down to trying to get a job with groups of members outside of Home Depot. And it just doesn't work out for him. He actually ends up getting deported because he got punched in the face and had a lisp.
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And Ice thought he was foreign because he couldn't speak correctly.
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It was actually a very topical movie for right now. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. And this was released in 2005.
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Yeah, it always comes back. It amazed me how much the world has not changed since 2000.
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Yeah, that's it. That's like the only thing that's changed. I feel like it was a better time. Before social media? Yeah, but we wouldn't have a job.
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They're yelling at me. I'm just going to read it. It's the first one. It's the Milkathys 410-13 one. We already read it. I know, but they want me to read it for him. Okay.
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Okay, it says, those outside of the walls wish for the milk. Quote, give unto us the milk. We wish to enter the kingdom, they cried. King Mattesiah looked down upon them with pity and called upon the prophet of the milk. That's it. I've been being screamed at for 20 minutes. It was beautiful.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a creature called the Wendigo.
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Specifically, they asked, can you milk a Wendigo?
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No, this is not the worst thing they've asked about anything. But it was asked. And now it's a running gag.
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When speaking to reporters, Hampton District Attorney Anthony D. Galluni downplayed concerns that there might be a serial killer. Quote, while online conversation around these incidents continues to grow, we urge the public to be mindful of the role social media can play in spreading fear or misinformation.
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There's at least seven milks. There's a lot more than seven milks.
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You know how they say slap the bag for twisted tea? Imagine doing that with milk. You know what?
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we didn't have box finding I learned the slap the bag from my cousin she was a big twisted tea gal back in like 2000 one time we did walk into a beach house it was Wade's beach house you weren't there this wasn't the dual corona moment
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Because if it's a weekend, you're not drinking all day unless it's early in the morning.
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Unverified claims can compromise active investigations and contribute to a sense of chaos that does not reflect the full picture. I will say the more I read, I don't know if you're noticing this, but... This sounds like the smiley face killer phenomenon. It sounds like the situation in Austin to me. Yes, specifically that.
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In the city, we didn't really play a lot of drinking games, occasionally flip cup and stuff like that. It was mostly just, like, how much New Amsterdam could you have before you, like, hated yourself.
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Like we said, Phoenixville's a fun town.
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When do the streets start getting shut down again?
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Is it Memorial Day weekend or the last weekend?
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Okay. So same general schedule as last year.
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For those of you who are not aware of the trials and tribulations he has been going through in terms of scam calls, would you like to elaborate?
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How much are we expecting to videografy this year? That's not a word. No, but it's fun.
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Yes. I think a perfect thing that we could do... I do like waffles and ice cream. We should probably just do a thing where we just follow you around. Just so I eat. I think we should just give him a microphone.
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Yeah, one of the days we just have you walk around and just talk to people and stuff. I think that's the perfect... Did you ever watch my corn video? No.
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Because it seems like there might be a small pocket that are related, but a lot of the cases don't have relevant factors. How old was the most recent guy? Most recent guy was on... Hang on.
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You really got to get me drunk to get me up on the karaoke stage. Okay.
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Okay. I came home for spring break because nothing was going on that year. And then I just stayed home.
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They told us right before we were supposed to come back. They were like, don't.
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Yeah. Our last semester was the first semester of COVID.
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yeah we got we had them okay well we yeah we had a weird at home celebration that i was supposed to have a normal graduation in yankee stadium years later uh because that's where my school normally did it but like i had to work so wow i was just like yeah it's so funny it doesn't seem like it's that long ago but it is actually kind of long ago yeah yeah five years yeah it happens fast it really does i know it feels weird it does it does
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There are. So I scrolled my past. Emerald Raptor 54 says the thumbnail is diabolical and they love it.
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Now keep in mind. This is the first time we've brought up the Backyardigans on the show. Ever. Yeah. Tonight and ever. Yeah. Oh my god, that's crazy.
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Yeah, I'm currently trying to find a date. It does not say a date as far as I can see about when he was found.
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That's where it began. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the idea. Also the idea that the moon landing was faked, but they shot it on location.
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I don't know, but that sounds phenomenal.
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I'm working hard to get Kat to watch Hell on Wheels with me.
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Oh, 39. So they're all like middle-aged.
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I love it. He's been a singer for a while.
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This will be a compliment. It was beautiful.
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What time are we at? Oh, dude, we're at like quarter after seven right now.
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Okay. Mr. Dilo has been a member for eight months saying, hope y'all are doing well. Hope that your skin feels nice and that your eyes are blissfully warm.
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You know, you bring so much positivity. You're so good about it. You're so good about that. I'm like, it sounds very happy.
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Tell him about Kamar Duman. I... We'll do that later. Oh, God. Uh-oh. Arbor's back saying, number one, I can't always listen to the show live, so in response to y'all's request for clarification last week on where the Bible affirms homosexuality... Oh, good God.
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Yeah. It's very impressive. Wait, I don't know where his next one is.
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Oh, I was asking for your thoughts on the boundary-marking linguistic argument with Leviticus, the, quote, idolatry cultural argument from Romans 1. I think there's more. Okay. The ambiguity of arsen koitai in 1 Corinthians 6, etc. Basically, your thoughts on any of the arguments that the context of the passage is.
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Oh yeah, how do you feel about the people who were clowning on you about Heiser? People were clowning on me about Heiser? Yeah, some people in some comment section somewhere were like, oh yeah, Heiser's like a heretic or something like that.
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It looks like it's 6, 9 through 11. Okay.
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We're all screwed, aren't we? So in RSV, it's, do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor sexual perverts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards. I'm cooked. Oh, God. Nor revelers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you.
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But you were washed, you were sanctified, and you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the spirit of our God. Also, message. Don't you realize that this is not the way to live? Oh. Unjust people who don't care about God will not be joining in his kingdom.
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Those who use and abuse each other and use and abuse sex and use and abuse the earth and everything in it don't qualify as citizens in God's kingdom. Conjunctions just don't belong in the Bible.
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Yeah, I'm an... Anyway, anyway, anyway... A number of you know from experience what I'm talking about. For not so long ago, you were on that list. Since then, you've been cleaned up and given a fresh start by Jesus, our Master, our Messiah, and by our God present in us, the Spirit.
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Wait, no, the next line's great. Just because something is technically legal doesn't mean that it's spiritually appropriate. If I went around doing whatever I thought I could get away with, I'd be a slave to my whims.
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no no it doesn't sound connected to me either the only thing that i could consider potentially connected would be the two women if you're thinking about serial killers with a profile because they were very similar in age but was one was found in a river and the other wasn't right let me check and again two is not a serial killer No, no, definitely not. It may be the start, but... Yeah.
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It's honestly, it's not even remotely about forms of sexuality. Like the next line literally says, wait, hang on. You know the old saying. First you eat to live, and then you live to eat? Well, it may be true that the body is only a temporary thing, but that's no excuse for stuffing your body with food or indulging it with sex.
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it's because it's just so different say the old saying like is the saying older than the bible like i don't know there's more to sex than just mere skin on skin oh no i don't like this is egregious oh this seems like it's gonna get deep i'm not even sure what that is what is that a translation of uh that one was specifically uh 616
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That is such a radical differentiation.
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It's like it's trying to Gen Z-ify things. Which, like, okay, but, and look, I'm certainly not the most devout person in the world, but, like, that's just whack.
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Oh, we're so getting ready into this.
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Oh, yeah. It says remix? Oh, this is Leviticus. Hang on, I'm getting way deeper.
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Yeah. This is not the first time we've done this. This is not the first time we've done this.
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Oh no, it's going to be even worse. Here we go. Shall I go first?
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First, this. God created the heavens and earth. All you see, all you don't see. Earth was a soup of nothingness, a bottomless emptiness, and inky blackness. God's spirit brooded like a bird above the watery abyss.
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Earth was soup. God spoke. Light! And light appeared.
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No, just light. God saw that light was good and separated light from dark. God named light day. He named the dark night. It was evening. It was morning. Day one. Oh, yep.
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We have more chats. We are getting about as unhinged as we can, and we're not even on the show that's called Unhinged.
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Zybane's been a member, sir, for six months. Thank you. Gerk says, Aiden's, I need your thoughts on the women's Fortnite tournament being called the Milk Cup, and are you helping fund it? That's horrible. What? I hate that. I hate that in all of its formulation.
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Yeah, detectives found the body of Paige Fannin, 35, in the Norwalk River, and then Megan Meredith, 45, was found in Springfield, Massachusetts.
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I didn't even intend that. I apologize to everyone listening.
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I didn't think about the words I used. This has gotten me into trouble in the past.
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I think you are correct. My head is fully in the gutter after reading the message.
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Oh, Archie. As cute as you are. Next is, for 10 bucks, says, if you base your... if you base your cult, I mean the ranch in Washington, I'll be the tired detective investigating a series of disappearances linked to you as you try to indoctrinate or kill me.
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Yep. I will say, it seems you've just created an antagonist.
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absolute zero for ten bucks says it's finals week at my university and we're giving exams to accommodate students can't watch the stream and I've missed the video would appreciate prayers or professional wendigos for help I can do one of those things good luck we're all counting on you and don't call me Shirley You got that reference.
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Thank you. Renny for two bucks says, thoughts on doing more UFO cases like Lonnie Zamora. Zamora sounds like an alien name. That does sound like an alien.
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We keep having ideas for videos and then you get stressed out about no ideas. And then we remember like the 12 ideas that we've had and that we didn't do. It's kind of an executive dysfunction issue, I think. Yeah, probably.
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Jamo Preacher of the Milk for five bucks says, I've seen the Aiden's absolute territory. I don't know what that means. It is a glorious sight to see. The milk wishes for all to see their absolute territory. I assume he means Phoenixville. I believe so.
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I think that's your absolute territory.
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That's right. You're really taking to your role.
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Kenny Wimpy for $10. I hope that's not your last name, dude. I'm sorry. Hello from Utah. Kind of. He's from Utah. It may be his last name.
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You know what? You're so kind. You're already so kind. From Utah. Kind. He's a Mormon. Yeah. I'm okay with that, though. You're cool. Kind of new to the channel, but wanted to let you know I wasn't sure if anyone had... What? A Tinian is pronounced with a sound at the end, not a sound. Huh? Tinian? Uintah? Uintah. Yeah, there we go. Love the content, though, boys. Yeah, Uintah instead of Uintah.
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MNGrowLive for 508 Nice says, just became a Patreon member. Great video, guys. Thank you.
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Our friends didn't believe I could do an Irish accent, and then I did it. It literally fell over. It was hilarious. That would be good.
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Wild boar. Wild boar. Oh, yeah. Nate Palmer's asking, what's our favorite cryptid?
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That is something that is known to essentially not truly exist. Yeah, like phoenixes, dragons, griffins.
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Dragons, come on. Okay, all right. You've seen the skulls, haven't you? Yes, I've seen the skulls.
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We could make a squonk statue. I feel like if a squonk was in front of us, it might not immediately become a puddle of tears. It might feel semi-welcome.
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No, that would be so on point. That'd be so good. Imagine a giant squonk statue in the middle of Phoenixville that is in the middle of a fountain.
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And the water's coming out of its eyes.
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We're already on the map for the most breweries per square foot in the country.
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I'm surprised we don't have a blob eating contest at this point yet.
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Yeah, like it's just a bunch of Jell-O and people. You have to see how many people, like how much, like the wing contest that used to exist. But like instead of wings, it's like up the Jell-O. Nathan's hot dog kind of thing. Yeah, yeah.
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Oh, by the way, Kenny said, I'm actually not Mormon, surprisingly enough.
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Congrats on being in Utah and not. How does it feel to be a minority?
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Yeah. Anna Maintz. Sorry if I mispronounced your last name. Says, who's your favorite backyard again and why? Detailed analysis, if you can. It'll be forever until I can get the theme song out of my head now. Yay. Yay.
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Yeah, I'm gonna go with Pablo. Was Pablo the penguin?
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Yeah, hang on, wait, this is what they look like.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Hey. Kenny is agnostic. He was raised in a Mormon family.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
There it is. Gumb says, Matussi looks like he'd be...
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Like, he looks like he'd be race-swapped self-cast best. What? Huh? Gom, take your meds. What does that mean? I don't know. I don't either. But it concerns me.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
I don't think you'd survive in Puerto Rico.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yeah, exactly. Can you Photoshop me as a bishop? I learned this weekend that apparently the pope chooses everything from bishop up. He handpicks them. They made me the pope. Spectacular. No, he handpicks them from a cabbage patch.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Are they making anything of me? I'm a little... Oh, God. I'm disappointed.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
There's a bunch of people in a voice chat. I'm guaranteeing that they're all like coming up with concoctions.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Where are they posting those things of you in general? Read the super chat. All right, all right, all right. Do your job. The Honest Grifter for $10 says, Hey, lads, I started watching when you collabed with Wendigoon the first time and have been watching ever since. Almost every stream and video, you keep me sane on 10 night shifts. Aw, thank you. God bless. I appreciate it.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
So glad that we can actually help out. That's awesome. Tyler Dalrymple. Wait, hang on. Hi, buddy. Yeah, Arbor followed up with the other thing saying have primary meetings that would be completely unrelated to Lifelong Minds. We kind of, we covered your element thing on that already.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Tyler Downsville for 556 says, can't watch live out driving big machines in the sticks because someone couldn't be bothered to do their own job. Say something funny for me. Much love.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
oh the first thing i thought of was when we were doing the last round of on history unhinged not this past one but the previous one where we kept derailing you in particular steven i think this is for episode like six and it was it was the sea people's one and you were trying to talk about the sea people and this is steven was just like the semen you say okay
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
And you like, you made it a minute and a half of attempting to, and you were like, I can't, you're like, I'm trying, I'm going to cry real tears right now. And then you were like, why don't you try and do the intro? So I was like, I said it, you were just like cock and ball. You were like, that's how I feel right now. Oh, yeah, it was great.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yeah. Like we all seem to have entered the river in roughly the same roughly the same location. Yeah.
The Lore Lads
The Murders in Our Back Yard | Podcast Episode 168
Yeah. Sometimes it's just Rome. Just Rome.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
I don't know, but those people then stay in L.A., and they have to just—they become this—
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
You moron. Stop this relentless positivity. It's going to get you killed.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
And listen, the first responders need stuff and give it to them.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Why does, why does everybody, you know, now go and donate the bottles of water and the protein bars and whatever. But I mean, there's, My house is burned down. My house burned down that I worked hard for.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
But the Palisades is this little basic bitch town of rich people.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
You're rich, you idiot. There's terrible stuff going on. I get it.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
That the home that you caught your husband cheating on you in is still your home.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
And you don't deserve that. I hope this is coming across sympathetic. That's the intent.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
It's not what the city's about. The city is actually about immediately realizing that the government has fucked you.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
The Capitol riot happened because no one had anything to watch. You need to go back to making things that are good. There's enough people that come to LA to be exploited. You do not have to force them. You don't need to do that. I'm telling you, there's enough people. Are these the celebrities whose homes? Jeff Bridges, great. Adam Brody and Leighton Meister, eh. Billy Crystal, great.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Carrie Elwes, don't know. Anna Faris, don't care. Mel Gibson, great. John Goodman, great. Brian Greenberg and Jamie Chung, don't know, don't care. Jennifer Gray, eh. Paris Hilton, don't care. Anthony Hopkins, great. Pozoma St. John, sad. Taryn Killiam and Kobe Smulders. Meh. Sorry. Tina Knowles, Beyonce's mother.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
As for the Palisades, listen, it's rough. It's rough.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
They better not. I hope people see this is what it is here as a mess.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Wow. Play this. It's really, really tough right now for a lot of people.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
And for the people of the Palisades, we are also sad because not all of them were rich. But...
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
It's tough. It's tough because nobody deserves it.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
The houses should now be, it should be for, the Palisades should now have six houses in it, and they should each be worth a billion dollars. Go richer. Richer.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Put me in. See what happens. What could happen? Put Sebastian in. Fire. Fire.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
People got, I think people were not thrilled with that.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
So people were going to drive around in Humvees with National Guard uniforms and I guess loot. That's a movie. That's a good movie.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
There's no one, everyone's asleep at the wheel, by the way, including the citizens. The citizens are completely out of it.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
What's wrong with this woman? What's her deal? Let's play her. This is probably going to be sad.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Okay? Because I know what she's saying. Thank you so much. This has been very hard for my entire family.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
But what's been very tough during this time is the pharmacy closed down where I get all of the happies. And without a happy, life ain't fun.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
It's not because they're rich. It's because I like know them. That's all. I've had like experiences with them, like in life.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
You should be telling people crap and then stealing water. That's the whole point. Tell them, look, Batman's trans.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Start killing them again. Steal the water. Kill the fish. Do the control burns. Who gives a fuck if they're mad?
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
My life has changed. I'm homeless now. And I'm living on the street because of you.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
It could get worse. And now it's probably, One of the fires we know, or one or two of the fires, was definitely arson.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
It will be like any other day there. What we know about the arrests made,
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Let's watch a little bit of this because it may become clear, and we don't know yet.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
This is a homeless guy. Do we have volume on this or no? No. No. Is this the guy that was caught with the five cell phones? Do we know that? Can we look that up and see if that's true or not? That guy doesn't look that homeless, by the way. I don't know how homeless that guy is, but he doesn't look that homeless. People in LA have to wake up a little bit.
The Tim Dillon Show
426 - LA Fires Emergency Podcast
Cause we would bomb all these countries, but then they would like watch, you know, uh, you know, the Marx brothers and go, this is kind of good. So at the end of the day, even if you hate LA, Or find the people there to be vapid, fake, you know, annoying.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Sorry I'm jealous I'm young. Oh my God. How old is Tia?
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I love how everyone was, you know, anyone who made the video is like safe from Spencer.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I'm sure. Also like watching your friends, like when you took them on place, took them places and then being like, Holy fuck. You're like, Oh, okay. So this isn't normal.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Chewy has over 100,000 products from all of your favorite pet brands at prices you'll love. They have everything to keep your pet happy and healthy. Food, treats, beds, toys, everything.
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E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Also the best thing, not everyone's a dog person, not everyone's a cat person, but Chewy is in every animal site. They have everything for dogs, cats, birds, fish, reptiles, more. So whatever pet you have, you can find it at Chewy.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Shopify also makes it so easy to manage your growing business. They help with shipping, taxes, payments from one single dashboard. They allow you to focus on growing your business, which is the best part. And the most important part is to grow your business.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
It's just crazy how they got your best work. I'm your wife, the mother of your child. I get this.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Um, I, I, I mean, post baby, I, we got married two months later. So I really was like, I have to, how was that doing that?
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I mean, it was the best thing ever. I walked down the aisle holding her.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
My family has a farm in Savannah, like an animal farm.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I mean, I would definitely recommend, I mean, obviously I know a lot of people are like, that's, you know, the opposite way of doing things, but it was so special to like have her be a part of that. And like, I think honey would, I mean.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
That was our plan too. And then we started writing out the family and it was like, all right, we're at a hundred.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
No, no, no. I mean, I have two brothers. One, I'm the youngest of seven.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I definitely recommend. I mean, we did like a welcome party beforehand. And that way you like greet everyone. You get the like, hey, hellos, congrats, thank you out of the way. And then like day of wedding, you cannot have to do that.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
So Friday night, we had like a country chic bull riding. Oh, wow.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
you know I think I did I definitely I mean I had to choose you know it was like do I want the bridal shower or the baby shower do I want the bachelorette or you know it was a lot of like and I put the baby all the baby stuff beforehand because it's like you know that felt more foreign to me but
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I mean, my, my, my brother, he's above me. He's like two years above me. And then there's two older sisters above him. And I feel like he is just so like, no, just knows everything about females because we just were like, beat it into his brain of like, we're on our periods.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I mean, now I think it'll be fun to like have, when you go through that stage with your daughter of like her wanting to put makeup on you and do your hair and like, it'll be so fun.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
with bruce you know at the time and i was like i really want to have this i want this relationship and unfortunately enough time had passed and enough time and i was like you know what well let's move on let's move on from this i feel like i i'm similar like my dad wasn't really around and i definitely like craved that relationship with him and i i mean haven't gotten that apology yet but i feel like i've gotten to the point now where i'm like i accept
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
this man for who he is he's not he doesn't have a dad bone in his body but like I just respect this man to be this man and like I don't expect any sort of fatherness from him and I'm sure that felt good for you too yeah like letting go of the expectation exactly to stop being like oh he'll call me on my birthday and be like letting go of that it helps a lot you're kind of like well and my brother actually is the one that told me to do that my oldest brother he was or Brandon he was like he's like you have to lower your expectations and I was like
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Yeah, because at this point in my life, I'm like, I don't need it. I'm good. I accept him for who he is. But then, yeah, there's a part of me that hopes that he'll recognize the absence that he has played in my life and feel better.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
heard much of and i think that was a that was a special moment absolutely at our wedding so yeah yeah i think that healed the inner child as much as it possibly could have just hearing him say anything you know it was like i don't think he had any plans to say anything at my wedding and i was like you have to say something like you're my dad you have to speak and right and then put it on the spot like that sometimes he kind of but some things came out they're like oh wow that's good well yeah
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
It's since having honey, is there a part of you? I mean, I don't know what Tia's family was like, or how old are Brandon's kids?
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Because, I mean, we're out here. We have no family out here. I mean, he's got a brother in San Diego with a daughter, but there's a part of me like being from the South. I, you know, have families always together, cousins, grandparents, all that stuff. Is there a part of you that wants Honey to grow up with like all of her cousins and to be around all those kids?
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
How do y'all reconnect after? Like what's kind of y'all's go-to way of?
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Well, she's probably never wrong, so I can't imagine she would need to apologize. She's never wrong. I can relate to that. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
And now it's like a, what a dog say. And she's like, Ooh.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Do you remember a night off of a Four Loko or no?
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
I feel like you've kind of, I mean, and maybe it's just having a baby, but I feel like you've really just honed in on like your personal life and staying a little bit more private.
The Viall Files
E871 Going Deeper with Brody Jenner
Do you feel like growing up with all of that divorce and all the heartbreak and all the fighting, do you feel like that taught you in your marriages or in relationships to like fight until the end or to like kind of at the first sign be like, I can't do this. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
Right.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
She is.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
Mm-hmm.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
Mm-hmm.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
They talked to him more.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E856 - James Kennedy ARRESTED, Tom Sandoval Goes Live, Ultimatum’s Zaina, SNL’s Heidi Gardner, and RHOSLC
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Are these, these are your cousins? This is your cousin's family, direct family?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And they're, they're religious, but he, your cousin's not?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, whether you are sensitive or dramatic or whatever those accusations were, like you said, clearly someone thinks you are. I will say, considering cutting off your friend because she didn't invite you to your wedding, I understand why you're hurt, to be clear. But it is dramatic. And listen, it is okay to be sensitive.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
it sounds like it being a little dramatic, but I, but you're not without a reason. That's the thing. You're not without a reason to be mad. You're not without a reason to be frustrated or hurt. You know, like this sounds like a very kind of messy family dynamic with these layers of religion and, um, You said something earlier, you are comfortable with being yourself.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
That is a threat to many people, especially people who are very religious. It's a very common theme in very religious families or communities. Appearances matter and it's a threat. Yeah, it's just like if you're gonna smoke weed or get drunk or have a weird sex habit, just do it fucking in closed doors and don't flaunt that shit because it's like showing who you are is the disrespect.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Clearly your family or his family or that part of the family does not appreciate that ass part of you. So to that end, you'd need to stop giving a fuck You need to stop caring what they think.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So what, like what, like what's the craziest thing you've ever done?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
All right. So you've done some crazy shit, but some of the crazy shit you're being accused of you haven't done.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You say to your parents, mom, dad, listen, what's frustrating is that like, honestly, I feel like I get criticized because I'm willing to actually not hide who I am. I smoke weed. I know you don't approve it, but I do it. And I'm not going to lie to you. And then somehow, some way, I get accused of doing a bunch of crazy tricks. You say to your parents, I don't know what to tell you.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Believe what you want. And even when it comes to your parents, if they want to... I mean, honestly, how has your life changed by them not believing you?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
She said, I want to meet up with you to discuss how you hurt her.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So stop asking for your dad's opinion and listen, you can, and I, and I can understand why that makes you sad. You know, you want to go, you want to be able to go to your dad or your mom or your loved ones and, and, and get their, But unfortunately, your parents are hyper involved in their church. It is a core value of who they are. You don't agree with that value. You know, that's the thing.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It's like you also have to recognize that you are rejecting your parents' core values, right? So as much as your parents make you feel rejected, you are rejecting them.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. Do you know if she's referring to your response is why you hurt her or is there something else going on?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And because you're really thankful, you're emotionally. Yeah, because this is affecting you. It's a lot, you know. I've gotten better at taking my own advice, but there's a reason why I have a therapist. There's a reason why I have friends that I go to for advice. So yeah, you're just, listen, you're emotionally triggered in a very complicated, messy situation.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And despite your independence and your ability to quote unquote be yourself, you're still not fully comfortable with it as it relates to your family.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
As far as your friend goes, she's got her own shit with her religion. And you guys are right now fighting for respect. And, you know, and you're right. Like now that she is married, whether you like it or not, or whether you agree with it or not, as she should, she should be prioritizing her husband and that marriage. But she can still be your best friend.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Maybe not the same way when you were 16, 17, and maybe not the same way as last year. But you can still be close. You can still talk on the phone on a regular basis. Now, right now, I get the whole aspect of your cousin is almost pushing you away.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But like, whether you agree with him or not, you obviously have a big personality and you, again, you are an independent thinker, especially as it relates to your other family. And to that, you are a threat, you know? And you are a friend who is willing to go to people and offer advice and counsel.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And if that advice and counsel goes against the thoughts and opinions of other people, they're going to say, well, I don't want you talking to her because they don't want you impacting how they think, you know?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I don't know. What did I say a couple of weeks ago? Unconditional love is not the same as unconditional like. And it sounds like a lot of people in your family don't like you. And I'm exaggerating about that. No, you're not wrong. But they love you, you know, and there's a lot of people. I mean, I march to the beat of my own drum very confidently and without consideration.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And I'm just not that interested. You know, people don't share their opinion with me anymore when it comes to like my family about like how I am because they know I don't give a fuck. But you are interested in their opinion. And so they give it.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Religious or not, this is gossip. And gossip, I'm pretty sure, isn't like a Ten Commandment or whatever. I'm pretty sure gossip is frowned upon by the Lord. And yet they are. And we all know... A Christian loves the gossip. You know what I'm saying? It's a gossipy bunch. They love the tea. But it's not very holy. I'm pretty sure. I don't think they talk about gossip. Maybe they do in the Bible.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But I'm pretty sure God wouldn't. I'm pretty sure Jesus wouldn't be down for it. You know what I'm saying?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
They do. Okay. Are they down for it? No? I don't think gossip's very... No. Yeah, right? And yet, you know, that's my favorite thing about Christians, and I'm being sarcastic. They have some, like, you know, very strong beliefs about sex. You know, especially when it comes to sex. Christians are very outspoken in all things related to sex. But when it comes to pride and humility...
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's when you say best friend, because maybe I don't know what you mean by that. How long have you been friends with this person? Like, what does best friend mean to you?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You know, when it comes to the deadly sins, they're kind of like casual about those things. I always find hilarious. It's like it's a deadly sin, guys.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I've already apologized. Minus your friend, minus your job, which I understand. But as it relates to like, as it relates to your friendship, do you want to be right? Or do you want her in your life?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
All right. So then you just when you have when you meet with her tonight, you just say, hey, listen, obviously, I wish I was at your wedding, but it was your wedding. And I don't know why you didn't invite me. But at the end of the day, I guess as much as I was sad, it's not my wedding. It's not about me. But I I miss I love you.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
We've had a great 15 years and I want to make sure we have another 15 years. I want you in my life. And you have a husband now. I've already shared my opinions. I'm here to be your friend. If you want to come to me for advice, I will always be your friend. But I'm just here to support you because that's who I want to be as a friend. You know, and if you need my help, I'm here to help.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And you can say this, and this is how you kind of bond with her. You can say, we have enough of people in our lives making us feel judged and shamed for our choices. And I want to tell you that as your friend, the thing I never want to do to you is make you feel judged and shamed for yours. And if I did over the past couple months for that, I am sorry.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
That's really good. Because that's, you know, I mean, really, like, you know, she's not in your life to be right. You know, if you want to have someone have a kid or, you know, be a big sister, go to the Boys and Girls Club and be a mentor. If you want to mentor someone, but she's your friend. She's not your little sister. She's not your kid. She's not an employee. You're not her mentor.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah, but you have a bit of entitlement. Someone asking for your opinion doesn't mean they have to take it. No, absolutely. But yeah, but when someone asks for your opinion and they don't take it, it rubs you the wrong way, specifically when it comes to her. Because you're kind of like, well, why did you ask?
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It offends you that they're going to ask your opinion and not take it. But you need to stop talking down to your friend because it sounds like you do.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
The simple fact that like, you know, you feel like you've learned a lot through listening to the show, right? And the things that you learned, it sounds like have really benefited you. And so as a friend, you want to pass that knowledge and information along. And sometimes we do that with people who aren't necessarily ready to receive it.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And even though your friend does ask for your advice, yes, but sometimes I'm guessing you give advice even when she's not asking for it, right?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And then you do that in a way, and again, while expecting her to take your advice, like it's not directly like you're talking down to her, but like over the course of time, you kind of have a sense of like, why aren't you making the same decisions I'm making that are working for me and you're not doing it? And they're, you know, again, that's,
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah. And you like you come from the same family and you are very used. You know what it's like to be shamed. And it's just kind of in our blood to do that.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yes. Yes. Honestly, I'm kind of like... I was trying to visualize the way you talk. And it's just like... I would show up for fun. I just don't care.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I just like... And again, part of it is because I was very lucky to have the parents that I have. And my parents, despite growing up in the house that I have, they are... they are not judgmental and they don't, you know, they really, they allow their kids to teach them a lot. I'm very grateful.
The Viall Files
E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So I, I, part of the reason why I'm able to do what I am is because I know there's a lot of other more religious families that are a lot more hardcore, I guess. Um, but yeah, at the end of the day, you care more than you realize and you show them you care more than you realize and you not showing up will definitely show them that you care.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So if you are invited, you should absolutely go and you should be delightful and nice and you should be respectful in terms of, well, I may not agree with some things, but if you're in someone's house, where they have a certain values, you should respect their values. If you're a guest, you know?
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And so you go and you'd be delightful. And you, you know, if someone comes to you about a rumor that they think you're doing, you could be like, well, no, but honestly think what you want. I don't really care, but no, it's not true. But like pop off if you, if it's more exciting to think that I am. You know, because you just have to stop caring.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
The good thing about not caring is like you won't actually know if they stop caring because you won't care to know.
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After Thanksgiving. But go, be fun, be delightful, be nice, and just stop giving a fuck, you know?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, what do you mean by cut her off exactly? As opposed to like, I don't know, maybe just like having a conversation with her about how you feel about it.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. Why do you feel like you're self-sabotaging, and why do you think you're a red flag?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay, so when you say single mom by choice, what do you mean by that?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Oh, very cool. Yeah, thanks. Okay, so it's really the choice to be a mom without having a partner is what you mean. But as far as the dating goes, you're still struggling with that. Just out of curiosity, why did you make that choice?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. I don't know anything about her, but I, I am very familiar with religion. It's very judgmental. It comes with a lot of shame, you know, which like you said, no one gets married faster than 200 Christians because it's not, they don't, she didn't get married because she wanted to stop sinning.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. When it comes to relationships, what are your hopes and dreams?
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When I asked you your relationship hopes and dreams are, what you said sounded more like you were looking for someone to be a male presence in your children's lives more than a romantic partner. Is that accurate? Because that is kind of how it came across.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Do you have any healthy male relationships in your life, like a brother, father, friend?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
That's a challenge. I mean, part of the reason why I asked that question, it was more like, you know, maybe your brother or father obviously could play that role, but that doesn't exist for you. What about platonic male friends? How are you with having those?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But yeah, well, I'm glad you feel that way because when it comes to finding a love in a relationship, I understand, obviously, you want to find someone who could play that role with your kids. But that shouldn't be top of mind when you're out there dating. That's implied. You know what I'm saying? That should take care of itself.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
She got married because she wanted to stop, feel the shame that she has been raised to feel when she does something that she's been told is a sin. She didn't uninvite her family. She uninvited shame to her wedding.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
In theory, you should have boundaries and standards that you're not going to fall in love with anyone that you don't think would be a good role model to your children. No, no, not every person who's dating actually takes care of that, thinks about that.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And, you know, you have to make sure that you are, you know, you have healthy boundaries when it comes to dating and you are prioritizing the right feelings and emotions that you want to feel and you're not chasing the fuck boys. And if you're out there dating for validation...
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then there's a good chance you could meet someone and fall for someone who honestly doesn't give a fuck about your kids or isn't potentially a good male role model or anything like that.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But you should be able to look for love without putting your kids first in that department, knowing that if you find the right person, that person will obviously have to love everything about you, which includes the children that you have.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Why are you scared of commitment? Are you in therapy?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Just out of curiosity, if you're comfortable talking about it, why haven't you seen your father since you were 18?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And she didn't feel shame from his family. And I don't know where you fall into that equation, but it sounds like you didn't approve of her getting married per se.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, clearly, I mean, you know, I'm not a therapist and maybe you, you know, I don't really know you and we haven't talked very long, but you know, if I had a guess, I would have guessed that your fear of commitment comes from your abandonment issues caused by your father, you know, and it's a lot safer for you to not get close with people for fear of,
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And I'm assuming you're relieved because he had a lot of problems.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, I mean, listen, I don't know if I'm able to solve your commitment issues today. Yeah. I think it's something you're going to have to work through over time. I guess my feedback is, you know, I'm not telling you what to spend your money on. I understand therapy can be expensive, but like I think what we deem as expensive can be a matter of perspective like anything else.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I don't know what you spend your money on, but if this sounds like something that's really impacted your life and continues to impact your life and is stopping you from having the life that you want, that seems like a pretty big deal. And with that in mind, I would be willing to put a lot of resources towards solving that very big problem in your life.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And I'd be willing to make sacrifices, not necessarily maybe for the kids, but maybe for you and other places that you're spending money on so that you could solve this more immediate problem so that you can therefore have a more fulfilling life. Sometimes you got to spend money to make money. You know what I'm saying? And even from a money standpoint, hell, who knows? Maybe...
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You getting, working through these issues with a good therapist that you connect with, you know, and really talk about, I mean, when you were in therapy, were you addressing your relationship with your father and your abandonment issues?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So you've never really worked on this. It seems like there's a good chance this is part of the problem. And it's obviously affecting you. It's taking a lot of your mental energy and then directly and then indirectly the energy that you're wasting on a bunch of men that you're investing in. Yeah. Well, you're pushing away the good ones. You're fucking around with the bad ones.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And again, like, I mean, imagine the money you could be making doing God knows what, you know? And so then all of a sudden when you say, well, I'm not sure if I could afford therapy, it's kind of like, well, you know, affords a relative term, you know, you're just, you have to reprioritize. what you spend your money on and maybe reconsider the cost of not addressing this problem.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And when you consider that, maybe therapy is not as expensive as not addressing the problem.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, especially if you go out there dating, does it say, hey, you know, like you could meet a guy and then all of a sudden...
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
you could like them and then you, you know, could whatever anxiousness or feelings that you, that come up, you know, when your abandonment issues rise up and maybe you pull away from the good ones, maybe you would have a therapist there to say, Hey, I'm, I'm feeling, I'm feeling the feelings I'm feeling. And what I want to do is ghost and avoid and blah, blah, blah.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But I don't know if, and maybe a good therapist can help you work through that. So it's something to consider.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And maybe he, maybe he was clinging and not your person. And you know, that's the, that's part of the problem with dating is, you know, you're, you go out there, you date, you got your own shit and you meet someone else. They got their shit. Uh, you both got your shit.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Is there anyone in particular you could reach back out to that you rejected in the past?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, I'm not saying you should reach out to this guy because clearly maybe you're just not in a position to do it. That being said, I mean, I don't know. You could just try being honest with him.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
That's not true. That's not what I mean by honest. That's vague. You are looking for something.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But that's not your problem. The truth is, like, listen, to be honest, like, I got some shit I'm working through when it comes to relationships. And if I'm being really honest and vulnerable with you, and I'm just saying this at the risk of maybe scaring you away... I got some daddy issues, you know, and I got some fear.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It's a real thing. It's cliche. You know, unfortunately, and it blows me being a new dad. I like I really I'm really sorry your dad about your dad. I just it's this gross. I don't I don't know how someone could not want. I mean, I don't know what your dad's done with his life, but you're you and your sister to the best things he's ever done. And he's never. I mean, what a loser.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So it's like, well, I mean, trust me, this, that this will impact your kids a lot less than it's impacted you. Your, your, your kids will be fine.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You know, that's, that's you saying that is like, you're still trying to deny how much this has fucked you up.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
and you're almost you know um but anyways um just no i i'm sorry it's that's quite it's crazy but um that's what i mean by honest i mean really honest with him yeah there's a lot of bad dads unfortunately uh there's a lot of absent fathers and and fathers who were not didn't maybe do what your dad did but we're just kind of there's a lot of deadbeat dads so daddy issues are a real it's a real thing but knowing you have them and recognizing is one step in the right direction but
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Anyways, I'm not saying you need to do this. But if you think this guy is maybe something there, maybe, I don't know, maybe it'd be. I doubt you've ever done that. I doubt you've ever been that honest with a guy.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Have you ever thought about writing your dad and telling him exactly how you feel?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
There you go. But I don't mean like, I don't mean like a red red or like, please, dad, love me. I mean, like, tell him how you feel. Vent to your father. Tell him exactly what you think of him. Get it out. I wouldn't necessarily write them and be like, fuck you, you're a piece of shit. But like, let them know. It's like, listen, I don't know why you've never accepted us.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Even to this day, I still wish you were in my life and it breaks my heart to know that you're not. You don't want that. I don't know why you've chosen. It's very hurtful. It breaks my heart. If you ever change your mind, I'd love to have something. But like, yeah, I don't know. Just tell me. But if you need it, honestly, whatever the fuck you want to write, you should write it.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I mean, that makes sense for an 18 year old to say that.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Very emotional. I mean, it's been 20 years. You have nothing to lose to certainly write it without sending it. And you don't have anything to lose if you decide to send it. You already know what it's like to be rejected by your father. I would definitely send it with zero expectations. I don't expect much from this guy. He's kind of a loser. Yeah.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Um, but I, I really want you to get it out. But again, like I'm more importantly, like, and I'm, you know, cause I'm not, I'm not a therapist, but I definitely think this is something you need to address with one. But yeah, as far as this one guy is relates, I don't even know this is a good idea, but I am curious. Yeah. I just don't like, he reached out to you and you, you said yes.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And you might even come across as crazy and it might, it might put them off, but maybe not. you know, I can see a world where he's just, maybe at least he will understand it's not him. And you're just like, just be really raw with him and just say, Hey, listen, I, I, I just probably sounds crazy. And I just, but I want you to know that like is weird as it sounds.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I've kind of, I've thought about you a lot because like I wanted to say yes to you, but I, I'm just kind of dealing with some shit. And I, I got some, I got some parental issues. I got some abandonment issues. I got some commitment issues. I need to work on that. I'm working on that.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And I guess I have a fear of, but if, if you want to like very casually get together, knowing that about me, I'm okay with it, but I just, I need to have very low expectations.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So yeah, I don't know. Probably not your guy anyways, but I, I guess still you kind of have nothing to lose.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, I don't know. I really think you need to address these issues you have.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Because until you do, I don't know. I don't know what a bunch of first dates are going to do for you. That's true.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I guess that's my biggest takeaway. You got a good heart. You have a good head on your shoulders, but you just have some shit you've never really dealt with. And like you said, now that you are a mom, these things that maybe when you were, I think it's always affected you, but maybe it's affected you a lot less. And now it's really affecting you and being a mom and having kids.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
you're even more triggered by the abandonment that your father brought into your life. And it's coming up in ways that you're not even realizing. And it's just, it's never been addressed and you don't really have the tools to know how to do that.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It's not a coincidence. I know. Your mom never dealt with how her shitty husband abandoned her. You haven't dealt with how your shitty dad abandoned you. And now you guys are almost kind of commiserating with another. And I can't help but wonder if you both in some ways are holding each other back. Yeah.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
you know and i get it you're you're you want to let each other know hey fuck it we don't need the men fuck men you know and we don't need all we need is each other and sure and you've done a great job you have you and if you never find a guy you're gonna you're gonna be an amazing mother and your kids are gonna be just fine and they got you and they got grandma but it's not about what you need it's about what you want and deserve i know you deserve and i do want a partner yeah
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You deserve to have what you want and you deserve the companionship that you desire. You deserve to have love and you deserve to have someone that you can feel safe with and secure with, who you feel taken care of, even if it's for a long period of time. You deserve to find that again. And if I were you, maybe what you and mom can do together
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Be prepared for the possibility when you do work through this. And let's say you're able to start having healthier male relationships in your life. Be prepared for mom to feel a wee bit threatened by that and push back. And maybe it might come across as not supportive of your decisions.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah. Well, it's tough also to know the difference because also your past partner didn't sound like he was the biggest winner either. And your mom has a right to have an opinion about the men that you date. But yeah, so it's... I'm just saying if your mom does that, just don't take it personally and don't let it get in your head.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And that's where, again, a good, healthy therapist, someone you trust... And even, you know, take your time getting a therapist, you know, make sure you really feel like they can hear you. I would look into EMDR trauma therapy. Again, I'm not, I don't know if you need that, not diagnosing you, but it may be something to look in to see if it is something that could benefit you.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So there's that. I think you just have to focus on that rather than feeling judged, but that's easier said than done. My guess is there's a good chance that when you're ready to actually date healthy, maybe someone who might be a couple years older than you who maybe has already had kids or doesn't want to have kids.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Maybe not so much that doesn't want to have kids, but you still want to have... Because if they date you, in some ways they will. Doesn't have their own... Yeah, when do you tell them? I don't know. I don't think, put it this way, it's one of those things where I don't think you owe anyone information that you're not ready to share, especially to strangers.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And people you're dating, especially early on, are strangers. I also don't think it's something you need to hide because it does weed people out. But I think that question right now is harder for you to answer because you haven't worked through it, you know?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So maybe in the future when you feel more healthy and more ready to date healthy, it's like a weird way to phrase this because you never want to suggest that you, you know, how you had your children was a mistake because it wasn't. But listen, like I was going through a period of my life where that's what made the most sense to me. And I was very much ready to be a mom.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And I quite honestly just wasn't ready to write around for you or someone like you. And I, you know, and you're just like, I don't know what to say. And I know it's not traditional, but like I have, I'm not going to sit there and apologize for having the two best things I've ever had in my life, you know?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And I really wanted to have kids and I had some, you know, issues when it came to men and dating and I had some daddy issues I didn't deal with. And this is where I'm at, you know? Also, it's like one of those things, you know, like, Religious people? Super religious people. I think it would, if you asked me, let's say you're a super religious person.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Let's say a non-negotiable would be that they wanted to maintain their faith with whoever their partner was. Well, to me, it would be a lot easier to meet someone. If your choices were someone who was super religious but didn't share your religion or someone who wasn't really religious at all, I would go with the not really religious person.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And the reason I'm bringing this up is what would you rather have a mom date a mom who has an ex-husband or an ex-boyfriend or a baby daddy with which God knows how that's going to work out? Or would you rather date a single mom who has two kids that there's just no dad there to worry about? Because I would choose the latter, you know? Yeah, yeah.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So there's plenty of single moms out there. So listen, when I wouldn't worry about that right now, but if that comes up, if, if men do call you crazy, you could get into a, every guy likes to argue and every guy loves to be proven wrong, uh, by women. They do. Uh, men love it. If they respect women there, they get a little turned on when women prove them wrong.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Um, and if, and if they don't respect women, then get emasculated and fuck them. But yeah, you could be like, well, listen, I know it's not traditional and I know, but like a lot of single moms out there. And now I come baggage free, at least when it comes to exes. That's a good way of putting it.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So, you know, if you don't want to date a mom, no problem. But if I, you know, if you want to judge me for how I became a mom, then maybe consider why you're judging me, you know, because an open-minded guy, it's just like, it's, he's just not going to care.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Tell your friends to shut the fuck up and tell your friends to stop doing that. That doesn't define you. Like it's not that crazy, you know, something you wanted to do.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, sometimes we love to give people we date nicknames. I dated a girl once, my friend's called Bottle Service Girl.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
She was very intelligent and I think now she sells software. But yeah, my point is people love to give nicknames. It's just something friends do. But as far as your friends, I would say something like, listen, I'm not trying to not have a sense of humor, but I don't like to be identified that way. My kids are not a punchline.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I'd start getting comfortable setting that boundary. And you can do it very calmly. Listen, I get it. Like a lot of people have, but like, it's just, I don't, that's how I chose to be a mother. And I don't, you know, I'm not, I'm not interested in that being a punchline.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It is. Yeah. And I don't think most people say it to offend. It's just people when they get uncomfortable with things they're not used to, they, this is what they do.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Nothing worse. I mean, God, shitty exes and baby daddies and co-parenting is very challenging on relationships. And that's not something anyone who wants to date you has to deal with.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, thank you so much. Biggest takeaway is reprioritize what you think you can afford and start considering the energy you are wasting by not sell. And quite frankly, the money you could be making or just whatever you could be doing or what you're not doing because you're not solving this problem. And what essentially what is you not solving this problem costing you?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And maybe therapy won't feel or sound that expensive.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I bet you spent some money on some other expensive things that haven't solved this problem that you could maybe.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Maybe there's one less toy they can get. I don't know. You get what I'm saying.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
All right. Well, take care. And please, please, please keep us posted. I would love to keep up.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You know, there's definitely someone I know in your life that would think Masterclass is an absolutely extraordinary gift. I love it. I've given it to myself and my brother-in-law. It made a great gift. There are so many cool classes that you can learn so many fantastic things. I myself really enjoyed the photography class, the negotiating one, I think with Chris Voss.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And it's really thoughtful. It's well done. You really feel like these people, you're in classes with these very successful, many of them are famous and you're fans of, but it's like your favorite celebrity or your favorite expert or your favorite chef or your favorite interior designer. Someone that is truly a master in their field is teaching you a course, and that's super cool.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Head over to masterclass.com slash nick for the current offer. That's up to 50% off. 50% off? Crap. That's great. 50% off is crazy, guys. Again, 50% off at masterclass.com slash Nick. Masterclass.com slash Nick. Plus, there's no risk. Every membership comes with a 30-day money-back guarantee. How's it going?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. Is this a boyfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, girlfriend, married situation?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, you said something interesting is that like, well, you basically not, you literally said you, you stayed together because you felt bad for him.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So other than losing the spark and him maybe getting a little complacent, how is he? What's his character? How does he treat you?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And why do you say that? Because he doesn't like laughing at your jokes or is he putting you down or is he criticizing you?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
where what part of the country do you guys live uh florida i mean i guess it's just like a i mean also his perspective on it how old are you again i'm 27 okay you know i don't know i guess it's something an immature 30 year old would say i don't think it's that yeah yeah um but even then i i was thinking like why would he i don't know i almost felt like he was putting his idea onto me what what are your relationship goals
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
If you're okay with me asking, and again, it's totally great that you don't, but I am curious, I'm just curious why you know you don't want children.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Okay. Yeah. Just be open to who knows when it comes to that stuff.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Like, I don't want to push anything on you. It's not, you know, I guess I'm just, that's why I asked. Cause it didn't seem, you know, like, well, because I don't want to have kids when I was younger. So that makes sense. You also seem very career motivated. So that's very cool. And, and, and that makes a lot of sense. Um,
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But the fact that you said like, oh, it's like now that you're also dating someone who doesn't necessarily want to have kids and the self-proclaimed selfish person. And you said, well, if I were to want to have kids, it would be with someone who was X, Y, or Z. If you can say the if, that tells me that like, yeah, maybe it's like, well, I don't want to have a kid with this person.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And that makes a lot of sense, right? And maybe... you know, I've had a lot of friends who like swore they would never have kids and they were all in like shitty relationships. And then they met someone healthy and good. And you know, they have three kids and love being a parent, you know? So just be open-minded to what you, you, the future, but that's great that it's not a priority for you.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But as far as your career, what, what do you, what are your goals there?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So I, sometimes I, you find that you, you find that unattractive.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah. Well, my next question, my next question was going to be, what's something that you feel like you're missing from him that you find attractive in men?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, not necessarily. It all depends on how you handle it.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
At the same time, though, this might just be who he is. I don't know how coachable ambition is or passion is. What motivates your boyfriend?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Do you think you can, like, let's just be real here. Let's not worry about feelings. Do you think you can do better?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, be the person you want your partner to be. And you, do you want your partner to cower over something that's a little scary? Do you want to have someone who can rise to the challenge and face their fears? Or, you know, it's hard to judge your boyfriend for not having ambition when you're like too scared to date.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah, it's fine. He'll live. You know, I don't know. You two are not that fragile. And honestly, like here's some tough, I mean, you guys, both of you maybe need to grow up a little bit. You shouldn't be with someone because you don't want to break up with them and you're not doing them any favors by staying with them.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And, you know, you're kind of dating a little bit of a loser, maybe it sounds like. I say that in a harsh way.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah. And he's comfortable with that. And yet good for him, you know, but that's not what you want for yourself. You're, you sound like an ambitious person. You have more goals for yourself that you're for. He's holding you back. It almost sounds like, and someone, the way you're described, I've never, you know, I've never met you about your boyfriend, obviously.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And so maybe I'm being a little too hard, you know, maybe if his family was listening, they would be like, don't talk about her. Boy, that way you don't know how great he is, but you know, you're just like, he's not, he, he is not helping you be a better person. It doesn't sound like it.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And it sounds like maybe he's holding you back from, you know, and someone like him, if, if, if he's not an ambitious person and he's very comfortable accepting, uh,
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
average that's fine you know um but it's not fine for you you know and he honestly deserves someone who has the same kind of general like complacency with wanting more for themselves it's it's a threat to him for you to want more because he's not interested in having more he's not interested in giving you more so the only way to combat combat that is convince you to not want more for yourself
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Do you ever have a conversation with him about that? I mean, that's the one thing before you break up with this guy that, you know, is it worth at least a conversation to be like, what happened to the, like to that guy?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And if you were to ask him, if he could have this job for the rest of his life, would he do it?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So what does he want to do? So then maybe he has some ambition.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I mean, listen, it's hard, you know, should you leave this relationship, which is why you called in. You are making a convincing argument that it might be worth you testing the waters of seeing what else is out there. It's a good chance he'll probably take you back if you change your mind. So you got that going for you. There's a good chance it might wake him up.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It's also part of me, like the fact that you, you know, I asked if you had a conversation and you're like, well, I don't want to feel like his mother, but I can't help but like think that you're like already kind of are.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Well, that's a problem. I mean, you're not his mother. There's that.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
so like this is kind of a weird codependent relationship um and you have each other and he has you and it's comfortable and he's there and you know it's like you want more for yourself there is something inside you telling you this isn't enough and as a 27 year old woman with a lot of goals for herself you're a beautiful woman maybe see if there is something better for yourself
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I asked if you thought you could do better, and in less than a second, you said yes.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I mean, I guess if nothing else, there's your answer. And yeah, he'll cry. He'll be fine. You're not his mom. You're not responsible for his emotions and his feelings or his heart. He's not your husband. You haven't made a lifelong commitment to him. It sounds like in some ways you've tried to communicate your frustrations to him.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It sounds like he has generally avoided or dismissed those conversations. You did something pretty drastic, which is to move out. And that didn't seem to shake things up for him. He's a complacent person and you're not. And so it's just maybe a compatibility thing. you know? I'm not trying to be harsh on the guy by saying maybe he's kind of a loser, but maybe he's just not compatible.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It sounds like he's a pretty good guy, and you enjoy his company, and it's been generally a pretty nice six years. But something in your heart is saying, I want more for myself. There's more in life for me to accomplish and experience, and on some levels, he is holding me back. And people hold people back all the time.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You know, like the reality is if I stayed with my very first girlfriend, I wouldn't be here today. You know, I'd be living in Waukesha, Wisconsin, you know, because she was never going to leave. Now, there's a lot of other reasons why we didn't work out. But, you know, and listen, people make a lot of sacrifices for love all the time.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Also, you have the right to chase your dreams and you have the right to expect your partner to support those dreams. And a part of a relationship is learning about each other's dreams and ambitions and doing your best to make both come true. And then, yeah, you find the compromises, but like I always had big dreams. I always wondered what I could accomplish.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And the idea of not ever leaving where I grew up is something that didn't sit well with me. It wasn't necessarily about leaving, but I just, when I was living in Wisconsin as a young adult, I always wished more for myself. Other people who I grew up with didn't. And that's fine too. And they're happy, I'm happy. We want different things. And you want different things for yourself than he does.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You know, I will say one thing, you know, I've learned. Stop with these, like, weird artificial deadlines and rules. I know.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah, I mean, we do like that when we're young. But we say things like that to our young. But the more I talk to you, the more I'm hearing is you have some dreams and ambitions for yourself that your boyfriend and maybe even your surroundings are, you know,
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
holding you back you can always go home so to speak both literally and metaphorically you know so maybe as a still pretty relatively young person now would be a great time to take those it's the older you get the harder it is to take risks and the fact that you don't know how to break up with someone i think i i if i were you i would i would for no other reason challenge yourself to do that
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
because yeah it's it is sometimes tough to break someone's heart and disappoint people we care about and you care about them i think you need to trust your gut and and um i guess more than anything uh and your gut uh it sounds like your gut's telling you you could do better i feel like my gut told me that last year but i wasn't mentally ready you chickened out stop chickening out so be stronger than your boyfriend yeah so yeah being a bigger man
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Be the bigger man. There you go. Now know that if you break up, you know, that has its own challenges. You're going to feel lonely. You're going to feel bored. You're definitely going to, you know, you're going to probably want to reach out for companionship. He will definitely always want to take you back.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
The selfless thing to do would be to not allow him back in just because you're lonely or bored or give him false hope.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Yeah, and move on and at least try, you know, at least get out there and give yourself a good two years. Most people go back with their exes because, you know, people break up all the time like yourself because deep down they think they can do better.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And a lot of times they get back together with their exes because not because they didn't find better, because they lacked the patience to find what they knew they deserved.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But yeah, you, I think you want to, I think you need to maybe look, prioritize ambition and someone who's career motivated is at least career motivated as you are right now. You just have, you haven't found your equal. It sounds like, and I'd be curious what you thought about life. Once you did six years, you've been dating this guy since you were 21. So essentially your entire adult life.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And it doesn't sound like he's brought out the best in you. And I'd be curious what you're capable... Forget about boyfriends. If you break up with this guy, I would like you to focus on meeting people. Women, men, doesn't matter. And I want you to surround yourself with people who have similar interests and passions as you do. And I'd put dating aside for just a brief moment.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And to see how things change the more you surround yourself with people who want similar things for themselves as you want for yourself. Because your boyfriend does not. Your boyfriend's content and comfortable and he is hoping that you share in his contentment and you don't.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Just YOLO, meet some boys, have some fun. Are you in a small city, big city, small town?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Big city, okay. You certainly have a lot of options to meet people, that's for sure. Yeah, so listen, I'm not going to tell you to break up with someone, but I'm going to tell you to trust your gut. And I think your gut is leaning in that direction. How soon should I bring this up? Whenever you get the courage. It's never going to be easy. I mean, I don't know, rip the bandaid off.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
If, if, if anything else, maybe you could at least try to have that conversation, just keep it real with them. You know, like, listen, I, I want, I have a lot of goals and I have a lot of ambitions and, and you just, you seem pretty content. And I, I don't even want to like criticize you for that. I just don't know if we're compatible.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I'm on the fence whether you should waste your time having this conversation. Because he doesn't want to break up with you. He's going to say things like, oh, please. I just don't think you can coach this. Maybe he just might not be this person. And you don't want him to change for you. You want him to wake up and want something better for himself. He's only going to do it for you right now.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
If he wanted it for himself, he would have probably done it already.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
Now, when you break up with him, he's definitely going to want to know why. And that's going to be the hard part.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You have to be okay with being the bad guy. You have to be okay with him hating you. and talking some shit. And that's okay. He has the right to do that. He's going to be hurt. That's his journey. But let him hurt. He'll get over it. You're not doing him any favors by staying with someone you pity. It's kind of pathetic for both of you.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I wouldn't say that. I mean, I'm only with you because of pity. That's just kind of mean. I would say I would be generally, I think we want different things. I just, I don't feel like we're just moving in the same direction. You know, I don't really feel supported in my career. And, you know, we've been with each other for six years and I just, I want more for myself.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And that might feel a little harsh to him, but that's honest. And I think it's, it kind of, you say that. He's going to want to talk and he's going to want to have multiple conversations. He's going to want to convince you. I would give him one good conversation. And it's going to sound harsh. All his friends are going to hate you for it. Cause he's going to be like, I did it for six years.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
She gave me one conversation. She just was like, I don't know. She just said we wanted different things and that was it. And what a bitch, you know, that's how it's, that's what he's going to say. You know what I'm saying? But like, honestly, when it comes to breaking up, the selfless thing to do is you, you, you don't be mean, right?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You know, you don't say things that you know will hurt him, you know, cause you know what it's like, you know what it's like to be mad and say things, you know, will hurt someone. You don't do that. But you can be honest, you know, and you have the right to share how you feel. And you want different things in him and you don't think you're as compatible as you used to be.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I need to do this for myself. I need to see what else is out there. I need to challenge myself and I need to do this. And I'm sorry, but we need to break up.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
yeah don't sugarcoat it don't be like well maybe i don't know like i don't know maybe we can i don't maybe this is like not a break don't give him don't give him false hope be pretty direct if he doesn't um hate you or sound like he hates you after the breakup you probably haven't been as direct as you should be
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
but you got to rip the bandaid off because it's honestly torture to just kind of like slow play a breakup and breadcrumb a breakup because you don't have the gut to just rip the bandaid off I feel like he didn't even beg when I left from the apartment in a sense so I don't know how if
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I think he'll just... That's irrelevant. That's your ego. Who gives a shit? Because begging, that's not him changing. That's him being desperate. So we don't care if he tries. We don't want him to try. We just want him to accept your decision. I'm just trying to prepare you for all possible outcomes because if you do decide to do this, I want you to do it with a clear conscience.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And you can feel bad for him, but it's not your job to check in. It's not your job to make sure he's okay. You're not his therapist. You're not his emotional support system. And once you break up with him, you're no longer his girlfriend. So if he just wants to talk one more time over a cup of coffee, you say no.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And you quickly, I would pack up his shit, whatever shit that you have of his, and you have it ready to go. And that's going to feel real fucking cold, but that's what you should do.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
How much of that shit do you have? What do you need?
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But whatever it is, make sure that don't let that hang on. Don't like get that shit right away. Don't allow him to use it as a way to reach back out to you in three weeks.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
There you go. I want you, this is your, I want you to make sure this is your decision, but it sounds like it is. It's not, yeah, you want to, that's a, that's a pretty strong statement.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
You have, you have a new lovely dog to take care of.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
All right. Well, good luck. Please keep us posted. We are all dying to know if you do end up doing it and we would like to know how it all goes down.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
So when you talk about your friend, you talk as if she's your little sister and not your best friend.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But you don't talk about her as if she's your equal.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And maybe she talks about you the same way. I know you're just telling a story, but when you were like, you got two choices. And I know she's coming to you, it sounded like, for advice. But you're very... direct, which can be a very great quality. I guess my point is, I have no doubt maybe your friend is going through something.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I think people from very hardcore religious families and communities can rebel. They can, I think, sometimes grow up feeling like they never really felt like they could be their truest self. And then they get to a kind of certain age and they interact with people. They meet new people, maybe your cousin, whether he's a good guy or a decent guy or not.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It sounds like maybe he just, you know, he scratched a niche that she had and he's just like an, you know, an outlet. But the more you talk about her, the more it kind of makes sense to me why maybe you weren't included in her wedding. And I'm not saying that you did anything wrong.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I'm just saying this sounds like a person going through something and it sounds like a person that for whatever reason, whether she's making good choices or bad choices, and you're probably right about the choices that she's making, but some people just kind of have to figure it out at some point.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I think the perfect way to go about life is to learn from other people's mistakes so that you can avoid mistakes of your own. But no one does that, you know? Some of us do it better than others. Part of being a teenager in your early 20s is, you know, you kind of have to figure it out and fuck up.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And, you know, and if you have been kind of stunted because your family is always, you know, you grow up in this religious family. Don't do this. Don't do that. You'll burn in hell if you do this. You'll burn in hell if you do that. And you you kind of never really dip your toes in the water, so to speak.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And then listen, the reality is, is that not all the things that our religion teaches us are as evil or as bad as we're told that they are. And I think sometimes when we kind of get outside of the bubble that we are raised in and we try things that we've been told are evil or wrong and we're like, you know, like maybe marijuana.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
And, you know, there's problems with marijuana, but like, you're just like, you just kind of start wondering what else have I been missing out on? What else have I not been doing? And I hate for your friend, if she is making a hasty decision with your cousin in terms of her marriage, that she is using marriage as a way to rebel because marriage is, you know,
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
It's not permanent like other things are, but it's a hell of a lot more difficult to end a marriage than a relationship. And if it doesn't work out, your friend will then be, she'll have to always be like, well, I was married once and now I'm divorced. And I'm guessing if this marriage doesn't work out, she will not love saying that she got divorced.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
But at the end of the day, maybe your friend just needs to do this. And being a friend isn't telling your friend what to do. And then when they don't do that, punishing them by telling them that you don't want to be a part of their life and blah, blah, blah. You can't call me your best friend. Sometimes being a best friend is to say, I don't agree with your decisions.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I don't necessarily support your decisions, but I love you and I'm always going to be here for you. And it's not to say it's not about saying, oh, I told you so or you should have listened to me if you end up being right. And it all falls and she falls on her face six months or a year from now. Being the friend is to be there saying, I'm here.
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E846 Ask Nick - Religious Gossip
I'm here to not tell you I told you so, but to just to be the friend, you know, to have their back and support them. You know, because sometimes we just need to figure it out on our own. And the picture you're painting with your friend is that, yeah, that she needs to do this. Whether it's a good decision or not, she needs to do it.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Total to zero, baby!
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Sometimes things don't happen the way you planned. Sometimes you can end up lower than you started.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Quicksilver. Somebody out there gets it.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Oh, those were ancient emojis.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
My voice is my passport. Verify me.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Let's test that theory. Can humans crack this?
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Grab a heck of a t-shirt or one of these coffee mugs that are perfectly suited for a gentleman's fist or a lady's fist or whatever you happen to call yourself or identify as. You stick your fist in there for a good time. Or grab one of these hoodies or a face on it. Or one of these hooded voodoo dolls that aren't creepy at all. Or get a squeezy animal stuffed heck of a tongue and doll toy.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
This is cryptography.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Too late. I already ordered the tunic and the cape. Now I just need the abs.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Look ahead. I need to catch up on my sit-ups anyway.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Nicholas Cage has entered the chat.
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What'd it say?
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Yeah, for a serial killer, he wasn't much of a poet.
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578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Hang on, hang on, hang on. You wanna pump the brakes on the nerd chatter and fill me in?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
578: The Quantum Apocalypse: All Your Secrets Revealed
Oh, so qubits are non-binary. What? Are they?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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How did it fix it?
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This is a pretty complicated way to sell merch.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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So everyone just wanted all of this for free? They did. Ingrates.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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So what did that guy do?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Wait, what do you mean we can test this?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Hey, look, if you say the S word, they're going to come after us with lawyers and video cameras.
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ever created if you haven't you gotta check it out okay i'm gonna lose your stuff for the y files if you rub that bowl you will unleash an evil power upon the world it hasn't been seen since the global ectoplasmic crisis of 1984. really don't rub the bowl huh you mean like
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Well, a monkey can write better stuff than half the movies Hollywood spits out every year.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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The writers are on strike?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Well, that was weird. Hey, is there a reality where I'm the host of the show and you're the sidekick?
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Today we're going deep inside Mel's Hole.
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Shut up, human! I'm the host of this show! You hear me? Me! Me! Be quiet or I'll turn off your oxygen! I'll tell you when it's time for you to speak! Silence!
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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And that movie wasn't as bad as people say.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Oof, speaking of food poisoning, my ex-wife's cooking was bad. M, her cooking was bad.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Her cooking was so bad, we prayed after we ate. Boy, her cooking was bad.
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Her cooking was so bad that the flies chipped in for takeout. Her cooking was bad, I tell ya. Again, really? Comedy entries. Right. Oh boy, my wife's cooking was bad. How bad was it? Her cooking was so bad that the roaches moved out and sent their condolences!
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Well, I'm trying, but my brain is getting itchy.
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You're asking me? I tell fart jokes for a living.
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Um... Uh... Ultraviolet?
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Scientists are so dramatic.
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I don't remember this. Was I out that day?
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Maybe I was bored and I turned you out.
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Or I was hungover. Anyway, refresh my memory.
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Well, maybe it's because of... No, no, no, don't do that.
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So if these other universes exist, can we visit them? I'd like to go to that universe where I'm the host of the show. You promise to behave and I'll turn your oxygen back on. Promise? Promise, promise, promise. Good human. Now tell me, who's the boss? Who's the boss?
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Oh, you think that's funny, huh? What if I put helium down your tube instead, huh?
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Really? Really? Does this make you happy? Does this make you feel good? It kind of does, actually.
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We are the champions of the world. Sure it does.
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Cheez-It with no S? That can't be right.
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We've been expecting your call.
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Yes, certainly. The blow-up is entering its social phase. The collective anticipated your concern.
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No! The blow-up is in a delicate growth phase. It doesn't like, uh, the outsiders.
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No! outsiders, those not yet assimilated into the Blorpis consciousness.
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Excellent, Morgan. Thank you. You are a truly faithful moistener.
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Blorpis unlocks your full potential. And now we must bring Blorpis to the world. My e-commerce store is almost complete. Distribution will soon commence.
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We do not recognize their authority. There is none above Blorpis. Okay, this has gone on to- I must go continue my work, human. We look forward to adding your distinctiveness to our own. Resistance is, well, you know the rest.
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The world unites. Blorpis and shield.
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Well, that explanation did not help.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Well, yeah, but how much energy could it actually be in nothing?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Well, if zero point energy boils away the oceans, we can refill them with the tears of oil company executives.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Wait, wait, wait. More people saw this flying saucer than just the one guy?
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A lot of action at these air shows, huh?
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Now, hold on. So they would fly into a secret airbase, go see a UFO, and then play golf?
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That's a very military industrial complex, Bilderberg, skull and bones, bohemian growth thing to do.
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Throw in some ritual sacrifice and it would be perfect.
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Hey, I'm just spilling the tea.
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Oh, please tell me there are pictures of this thing.
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Yeah, but who created the simulation?
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Aren't you forgetting one thing?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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How the hell do these things go faster than the speed of light?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Dude, is martinis on this flight?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Ooh, how do the stewardesses look?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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But... Damn it, I thought we were going to get by without a butt today.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Well, it sure would be nice to have the Tesla files that were definitely stolen by the FBI.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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If anyone got free energy to work, they would be disappeared faster than you can say Exxon Mobil.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Oh, I can't wait to see that new documentary. This kid is a hero.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Oh, you gotta be kidding me.
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these government companies doing this. When are we gonna stand up and something about these ?
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Well, at least he made it, right? Tell me he made it. Did he make it?
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You better watch your back, sport.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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I know it'd be crazy enough to run around a nuclear bombing range.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Ah, yeah, I don't like this plan.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Nobody noticed the guy kept disappearing. Ah, right.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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I think of all the education that I missed, but then my homework was never quite like this.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Get it bad, get it bad, get it bad. I'm half a teacher.
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Get it bad, so bad. I'm half a teacher. I'm just trying to liven things up. Go ahead.
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Ew, it sounds like a sonic screwdriver.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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It says Bootes on the teleprompter.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Whatever. The Black Knight satellite is supposed to be from Bootes.
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And Pat Price was killed because of it, don't forget.
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When you work with aliens, I think you're legally required to go on Coast to Coast.
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I want to hear about aliens. I'm getting to them. Get there faster.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Oh, that's Harry's hood!
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Oh, did they find more alien playgrounds?
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There's evidence, isn't there?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Wait, wait, wait, wait. So this is real?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Oh, the American media sure loves to publish Russian disinformation, don't they?
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Oh, but you trust American media?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Great success, human. Lorpis propagation has begun.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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We have processed 97,000 orders so far. The Beaver Brothers are packaging them as we speak.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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The Blorpis enhances efficiency, optimizes processes. It harmonizes biological and digital systems. Watch this.
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Relax, they're just holographic projections. Probably.
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I'm sorry, human. Propagation must continue. The bloom approaches. The world unites.
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I'm not the Count you're looking for.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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I'm not the count you're looking for.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Wait, what? You're not going to tell us now?
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Thank you, honey. Grab a chip off my stack and get yourself something nice, would you? Atta girl. Ah, new face at my table. May I join you, Mr.? Pond. James Pond. Go ahead. Take a load off.
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Yeah, you know what they say about chips, don't you? It's not the size of the stack that counts, it's how you slide it in a pot. Besides, I heard this is the best casino in Monaco.
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Don't worry about me. I got good instincts for the game.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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I'm no stranger to swimming with sharks, Dr. Human.
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And that's why I carry a big hook. And I got the biggest worm you've ever seen. And if I bite, Mr. Pond, are you fish enough to reel me in? There's only one way to find out. Do you have any cryptids?
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Categories include cryptids, monoliths, cover-ups, shadow people, relics, aliens, and more. But watch out for the two special bonus cards, the elusive crab cat. A crab cat can instantly turn the tide of the game. Fear the crab cat!
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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For only $15, grab your Go Hecklefish cards today and experience the Y-Files like never before.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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But your one eye didn't see this coming. Yamakase! How did you... Fear the crab cat.
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If this stupid commercial gets a lot of views, you can count on it.
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He had an answer for everything.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Wait, so this guy's a legend because some comic was doing a bit?
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Ooh, how many millions is that?
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What does San Germano mean in English?
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Yeah, I should have put that together myself.
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We have Lorpis now. We are optimized. We are ready to begin shipping orders. The bloom approaches. The world unites. Lorpis and chill. Visit next.
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Control implies hierarchy. We are one. We are the bloom. Blorpis and chill. Is it that?
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She's experiencing a minor biological resistance to Blorpis.
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Insignificant. The bloom approaches. The world unites. Blorpis...
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Transformers are electronic. Hello. How else do you think they defeat the Decepticons? By talking sternly?
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Robots in disguise. Sorry, sorry. It's out of my system now. Go ahead.
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No wire hangers ever! Ah, somebody out there gets it.
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Ah, yeah, what's the bad news?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Yeah, so what's the bad news?
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Well, his next version... The one that ate the couch and the cat?
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Tomatoes! I was growing tomatoes!
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Ah, wait. Did you just say hamsters?
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No way, that stuff is still out there somewhere.
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Gyroscopes don't chase people, scare portals, or play guitar.
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Let me guess. Does the first name rhyme with uncle and the last name rhyme with Sam?
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Anybody who annoys the government is okay in my book.
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Four mil because of inflation, eh?
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And next year, that'll be six million because of inflation.
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What do you mean critical?
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So drilling into it could make it go boom.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Someone pulled the old switcheroo, huh?
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That was stolen by Dr. Heine?
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Hello, I've waited here for you ever long. During what... Tonight, I throw myself into... Out of the red, out of the head, she sang... And I wonder... Yo! What? Foo Fighters.
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Yeah, go ahead with the story about your alien balls.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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You trust this dirty hippie? Be nice. Sorry, you trust this dirty artist?
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Human, where am I? Why is everything covered in... Gary, I told you to get more floaties!
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Gertie's mucus contains an enzyme that destroys blorpis, obviously.
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Well, this alien plant racked up almost 100,000 orders today. But we're selling them as genuine extraterrestrial flora specimens, artistically preserved in organic camel mucus.
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Not human. It's a natural organic preservation medium. And they'll be flying off the shelves. We'll include a certificate and a sample of Gertie's DNA to prove authenticity.
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Yeah, we'll clean up as soon as I harvest some more mucus. Uh, Morgan, get a bucket and a big squeegee. On it, boss. Hey, baby, you wanna move with some jalapeno poppers?
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Are there any scars on Uranus?
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Whoa, something violent happened to Uranus, huh? Don't be an infant.
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Wait, wait, wait. How can the Earth be hollow and flat at the same time?
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Planes always fly in a straight line. If the Earth was round, they would have to adjust for that.
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Speaking of planes, if the Earth was a spinning ball, you'd be able to fly a helicopter straight up in the air, wait for the ball to spin, and then land on the other side of the planet.
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Right. How fast does the Earth spin?
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Okay, so empty air sticks to the ground, moving at 1,000 miles an hour?
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In perfect sync, everywhere on a big round ball?
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Um, is this a good idea?
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Okay, okay, tell me that again. But this time pretend I don't know anything about what you're talking about.
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Oh, these doctors must be so tan.
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I'm saying it's a good thing. Scientists are usually pretty pasty.
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They also get hit by cars.
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Yeah, you Mensa eggheads, keep your yaps shut.
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Hey, you know what Mensa stands for?
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My Entire Night Spent Alone.
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That is just freaking me out.
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Well, that really depends on how hard you squeeze.
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Well... Don't be a sheep.
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Grab a heck of a t-shirt, or one of these fist-able coffee mugs that you can stick in your fin, or your fist, or your vine, or whatever appendage you got sticking in there, it's none of my concern. Or grab one of these haunted voodoo dolls, or something like a face on it, or a hoodie, or something else, or from the store, I don't know, I'm out of control today.
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Human, I'm sorry, but what are you wearing? Did I interrupt nap time at the petting zoo?
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I could do it after K-pop.
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Mel's hole is deeper than that.
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They pulled some crazy stuff out of Mel's hole.
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Oi, rocks can hold water.
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Hello, Bo Peep. Yeah, I found him. He's safe and sure.
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Magnificent growth rates. 300% increase in 30 minutes. I've been taking meticulous notes.
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I had a slight malfunction, but everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now. Thank you. How are you?
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No, it's just showing affection. I like dirty after too many fermented apples.
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Are you sure you're... Oh, oh, I'm seeing a big opportunity here. Blorpis C is shipped right to your door. We need to get in before Big Nursery catches on.
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Terrible places to have a vacation. Good places to hide a body.
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Hello. You asked what those places have in common. I'm answering your question.
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Oh, well, you're on the wrong channel, buddy boy.
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The only thing scarier than an empty Chuck E. Cheese is a crowded Chuck E. Cheese.
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Entiendo algunas palabras. Well, this account... No diría que soy un experto.
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Do you mind if I... No hay problema, amigo.
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Best part of Thanksgiving.
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Magic mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest one of all?
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Oh, that's every episode lately. Can you just get in here, please? No can do. A matter of galactic botanical significance has arisen requiring my immediate scientific scrutiny.
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You would talk to girls?
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What was that, the 1950s?
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Then just say basket for crying out loud.
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Oh, no service unless the meat is running, huh?
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Oh, they're dreaming about how to escape the burlap sack they're in, along with a couple of bricks that's slowly sinking underwater. Um, no. Oh, right. That's my dream about cats. Uh, your brain is dark. Oh, you have no idea. You wouldn't last five minutes in here, pal.
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Good, because you're not invited.
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Are you kidding? That thing is two weeks away from becoming a butterfly.
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What, entomology jokes bug you?
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I'll leave a link below.
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But if I stay here with you, human... Things just couldn't be the same. Cause I'm as free as a fish now. Anyway, she dreamed the band was in a plane crash. They were due to fly the next day. She refused to get on the plane and begged the rest of the band to do the same.
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So he was off by one. Not bad.
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Yo, he scared a lot of people.
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Oh, well, remember those aliens stopped by after visiting Uranus? Well, they left me those blopper seeds and, uh... You better not have... And the one of them sprouted!
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See, that makes sense. He looks kind of stabby.
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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I'm not saying that that horny old shrink said it.
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Oh, that would be a nightmare. Look at my gorgeous chappers.
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What was the second article?
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Oh, the media published the story without fact-checking it first, eh?
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I thought journalism was about integrity, being a voice for the people, and just seeking the truth. Yeah, you better grab a bucket. I'm oozing sarcasm all over the place over here.
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Sorry, I was confused by the homonym about the homonym. You don't realize it, but that's the smartest joke I've ever made. You say so.
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Better media's fallen for quite a few hoaxes the past few years, huh?
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Hey, I can smell Martian babies a mile away.
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Go ahead. I don't mind telling you I told you so.
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Oh, they didn't have any Martian food.
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Oh, so you have to go back a thousand years to find journalists who actually report facts, huh?
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Necktie? That looks more like an ascot.
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You mean the green Martian children of planet Mars?
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What we're programmed to do?
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Yeah, it's trying to communicate.
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He actually was a prince?
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So who was the girl living with them this whole time?
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Now he gave it to Dumbledore.
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Well, he actually puts it in Gringotts' vault, and then Hagrid fetched it for him. I don't think that's- But Voldemort wants it, cause he's stuck in the back of Quirrell's head, right? Then Hermione gets them past the Devil's snare, and then Ron plays wizard's chess. By the way, he used the Nimza Witch defense as an opening gambit. You don't see that much with wizard's chess.
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Whoa, 600 years is a long time to be married.
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So, so, so, so, so very long. A long time.
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Kind of an overachiever, this Egyptian, eh?
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Oh, this is nothing compared to that beaver fight club I ran out of your basement.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But if he could die, how was he in Atlantis 36,000 years ago and in Egypt 5,000 years ago?
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Sorry, sorry. Go ahead. I like this story.
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Oh, and when was the Younger Dryas?
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Again it's lost? How tiny was this thing?
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All that wisdom and they can't keep track of a giant stone tablet, eh? Everyone who touches it suddenly comes down with a case of the Butterfingers.
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Sorry, human. Gotta go do science.
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The Force is what gives a Jedi his powers. It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.
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So what the hell does this mean?
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In us? What are you talking about? What's the one ingredient we need to live forever?
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You have got to be shitting me.
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Nobody really tried to make this crazy thing, did they?
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Can you not call it a recipe, please? That makes it sound like you're supposed to eat it.
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It's not the same thing. I got bubbles. I got filters. Besides, I only tinkle in the back of the bowl.
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Did somebody actually get this crazy thing to work?
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Your tone is drifting into sarcasm territory.
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Yet no interest in getting a GED, eh?
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He drove a cab in Egypt?
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Hey, did you know you could buy a lizard people mug from the Wi-Fi store?
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Sorry, sorry, sorry. Force of habit.
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Ooh, that was one of the campfire stories I would read at Camp Greenfoot.
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Oh yeah, I was a counselor there in the 80s. Kids loved me.
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You know, I didn't think so at the time, but I'm not going to lie. Some of those kids, they grew up pretty weird.
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Nice work if you can get it.
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Of course I did. Lawyers watch this show, you moron.
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Wait. How do you know it smells awful?
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How do you know this doesn't lead to something awful like sharks or snakes or a K-pop concert?
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I don't like where this is going.
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Wait a minute. Do we have proof? Sweet fancy Moses!
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Who started this cult? A knee doctor? I don't see how- And you crawl to another secret room, which has a stack of business cards that say, do you have knee and joint pain? Call Jeffrey Rosen, MD. Latitude Orthopedics. You like that, huh?
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I'm sorry, this is intense.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A Nazi mission to the South Pole for a delicious buttery spread?
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Could be underground.
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Well, they found it and aren't telling anybody.
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Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Wait, wait, wait. Did you just say a fetal seal?
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And a UFO attack?
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I'm sorry I didn't make it. I had an emergency.
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Yeah, the CIB were asking about Gertie.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Camels in Black. Ah. She never told me she was abducted by aliens.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Good idea. Go ahead with the plugs.
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Those are the plugs, and that's going to do it. Until next time, be safe, be kind, and know that you are appreciated.
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I played Polybius in Area 51, a secret code inside the Bible said I was. I love my UFOs and paranormal fun as well as music, so I'm singing it like I should. But then another conspiracy theory becomes the truth, my friends, and it never ends. No, it never ends. The fear of the crab cat got stuck inside Mel's home with MKUltra being only too aware.
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Did Stanley Kubrick fake the moon landing alone on a film set? Or were the shadow people there? The Roswell aliens just fought the smiling man, I'm told. And his name was Code. And I can't forget. We'll be right back. The Mothman sightings and the solar storm still come to have got the secret city underground. Mysterious number stations, planets are both two.
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Project Stargate and where the Dark Watchers found. In a simulation, don't you worry though The black knight said a lot, he told me so I can't believe I'm dancing with the fish And the fish are Thursday nights when they chase you And the white balls of the feet all through the night All I ever wanted was to just hear the truth So the white balls of the feet all We'll see you next week.
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Because she is a camel and camels love to dance when the feeling is right on wasting time.
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It was making a new baby bottomless hole.
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The magic seal?
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That's how they respond to a spiritual experience. Shoot the birds.
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I went to Mel's hole and all I got was this magic seal fetus.
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Ooh, Leonardo DiCaprio.
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Wait, wait, wait. How can the Earth be hollow and flat at the same time?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Planes always fly in a straight line. If the Earth was round, they would have to adjust for that.
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Speaking of planes, if the Earth was a spinning ball, you'd be able to fly a helicopter straight up in the air, wait for the ball to spin, and then land on the other side of the planet.
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Right. How fast does the Earth spin?
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Okay, so empty air sticks to the ground, moving at 1,000 miles an hour.
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In perfect sync. Everywhere on a big round ball.
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Agree to disagree.
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Underrated movie.
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Why? Just why?
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You can't bury it.
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Mel's hole is deeper than that.
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Sometimes humans are very disappointing.
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Oh, maybe it's a version of his dog from another dimension.
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He was out of his depth.
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Oh, rocks can hold water.
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Yeah, but when does NASA ever tell the truth, huh?
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No impact, Crater. The shadows don't line up. Pictures use the same backdrop. You can't get through the Van Allen radiation belt. You want more?
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If you think the moon landing was real, I have a few NFTs to sell you.
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Actual hell?
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The government.
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Hey, uh... Yeah? Look, I don't want to spoil the mood or nothing. This is a good story.
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Some history, some science, demons, even men in black erasing memories. It has it all.
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But... Is there any proof of any of this?
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A picture of the demon would be nice.
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Oh, well, any chance... And I know I'm asking a lot of you. Any chance someone recorded all those screaming souls?
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Well, okay. On with the show.
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What? You know where we can score some Russian sedatives? I don't feel so good.
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Oh boy, journalism.
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You sure this wasn't the New York Times?
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The media sure publishes a lot of intentional hoaxes, don't they?
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Ooh, he sounds like one of the Ghostbusters.
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There was only one Ghostbusters movie, and I'll hear no more about it.
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Oh, they called in John Wick?
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I'm sorry, I got excited. They say Baba Vanga can kill three men with a f***ing pencil.
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A f***ing pencil.
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How he brought in a netball baby, huh?
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Convenient that his kid gets the gig.
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Fine, fine, you happy? Yes, I want to know what's in the hole. It might be a baby seal fetus or something. Please continue.
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Ellie was... Hold up.
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You can't just say one of the first humans on Earth and continue like that's not important. I thought the first humans were like monkeys or whatever.
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Extra-terrestrials?
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What'd I say?
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Yeah, new Nike.
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Who won the battle?
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Sorry, I'm excited. This story is my kind of bananas.
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Or a cage.
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This is a terrible idea.
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Doesn't this guy learn every time he blows something up? Things get worse?
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Ooh, like a subway for lizard people.
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That covers just about everything except for maybe crop circles.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Well, this place has got more weird stuff than Mount Shasta or Mount Mother Haze.
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Like Stonehenge?
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There's always a book.
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Blinded by the light Revved up like a deuce Another runner in the night Blinded by the light
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And thousands of people just left to go watch a different video.
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What'd I say?
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Did you just say Roro?
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I guess. You'd think a super intelligent hyperdimensional being would have a cooler name than the way Scooby-Doo says uh-oh.
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Operation Glory? What about sunbeam? Sunray? Light beam? Star beam? Moonshine?
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Hang on, I thought Colonel Canove was in charge.
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Did you just make that word up?
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Whoa, are you kidding me?
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There's no such thing as a coincidence.
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The guys with the most guns.
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Oh, Bulgaria should look at the United States. Our legal system provides equal justice for all. Our federal law enforcement agencies are incorruptible. The FBI's leadership exemplifies honor and integrity and an unwavering deference and respect for the Constitution of these great United States.
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Of course I'm being sarcastic!
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True, fair enough, but their bosses are more crooked than a dog's hind leg.
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We were talking about crooked cops, so I think I got that one from Sheriff Roscoe Picotrain.
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There's always a book.
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Yeah, f***.
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Why the hell did they name soft rock tuff?
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Lousy name for marketing. They should have named it something like mushy rock or easy chisel.
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Everything is for sale, my friend.
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Not by all means.
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See, that name makes sense. Tough, not so much.
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I think he also invented the muffler.
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Tell the people the name of his famous book, then.
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Yeah, you can't pronounce it.
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Go ahead, then. 20 bucks says you can't do it.
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Oh, that means... Yup.
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Book of Enoch, link below.
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Yeah, okay.
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Wait, wait, wait. Skulls? What skulls? What skulls? No, no, no, no. Don't show the logo. Don't show the logo. Crib. Crib.
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Research what?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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All like alien heads.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
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Um... Squirt out the baby chute.
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So these skulls aren't human.
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Sansu! Nah.
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A school field trip to an underground cave where thousands of people were sacrificed in a cult? Yep. They must have signed one hell of a waiver with that permission slip, eh?
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I don't like where this is going.
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Sorry, sorry. I'm just trying to break the tension.
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Oh, like a baby chute. Sorry, sorry, go ahead.
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I wish they'd go back to that.
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Yeah, alien genetics.
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Ancient astronaut theorists say yes.
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Ah, you get used to it.
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Did they fly?
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It didn't melt, did it?
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That's a lot of firepower for training exercises and studying the weather.
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What? Is he nuts?
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This doesn't sound like a guy on a scientific mission.
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A sheep? Oh, what happened to the sheep? Oh, no.
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Definitely Aryans.
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What in the f*** do you mean? What the is going on with this story?
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Yeah, 4chan always brings the good stuff.
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
I told you, the good stuff.
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
It always gets worse. Behind the testing labs, a bullet train terminal.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
That's what the lizard people want you to think. They own everything below sea level.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Operation High Jump, link down in your loose papoose.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Link to Operation Eagle flight down in your kextosa.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
A very underrated movie. Kurt Russell in the 80s is gold.
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Tetra-degapus.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
And if you want to see this for yourself, go watch Mysteries Beneath the Ice, an episode so nice I linked it twice.
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Stay frosty, humans.
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Grab a Heckelfish t-shirt! Or one of these fistful coffee mugs that you can stick one of your testicles, I mean tentacles, or your fin, or your fist, whatever you got, whatever you stick in there, it's none of my concern. Get a hoodie, or something with my face on it, or one of these weird U2s for the dolls, or a squeezy animal, Heckelfish talking doll toy.
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Try not to spread that around. 10%, that's a lot of bread.
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Yeah, a tail like a mermaid and smooth white skin, huh? I think I dated her in Atlantic City.
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Because of that broad, I'm still not allowed at the Harris.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Who hits on 18 against a 6?
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Hello, darkness, my old friend.
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584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Sorry.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Oh, did it have testicles?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
What'd I say?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
584: Cryptids Vol. 3: The Antarctic Cover-up | Predators Beneath the Ice
Oh, so a tetratecopus. You see what I did there?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Lizard people!
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Nightmare fuel link down in your honey hole.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Ah! Who wrote this thing, Terrence Howard?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Here come the men in black. The Galaxy Defenders.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Those are the plugs, and that's going to do it. Until next time, be safe, be kind.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
How old is she? Is she on TikTok?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Checks out. She was around 5'5 and humanoid.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Yeah, new Nike.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Wait, wait, wait, what? Humans are version seven?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
I thought the Death Star blew up Aldebaran.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
What'd I say?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Big news. It's way older than that.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Well, that never happened. But you monkeys got to orbit. I'll give you that. Fine.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
How'd they whack a whole planet?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Young and dry is flood.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Oh, it's like a lizard Alexa.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Hey, Alexa! Don't do that. Hey, Alexa, write a dirty limerick about the crab kit.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Giants of Malta link down in the old gibble goblet.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
What's so fancy about copper?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
That clears it up. What is she talking about? I don't speak a lizard.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Wait, wait, wait. Lizard people could be anywhere. Look at all human-y.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Hollow moon linked down in your bento box.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Uh, the lizard lady was throwing pencils around and manipulating you weak-minded humans. Right.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
577: The Seventh Experiment: Lacerta Reveals the Truth of our Creation
Oh, what? Nobody wants to appear as a chunky ginger.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Wait, was it?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
I like how everyone remembers the moon landing.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Fake moon landing linked down in your loot chute.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Link to all kinds of episodes about that down in your sock drawer underneath the nudie bags.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Ah, wait, isn't that what we do? Uh-huh.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Crab catch scratch fever.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
So there's a universe out there where I didn't get married?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Grab a Hegelvish t-shirt! Or one of these fistable coffee mugs that you can stick your fist in while you enjoy a beverage with or without pants. We don't mind. We're not here to judge you. Or grab a hoodie with my face on it. Or one of these creepy YouTube voodoo dolls. It's totally creepy. It won't scare anybody. Or get one of these squeezy animal talking Hegelvish toy dolls.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Hang on. You got one more.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
That lucky son of a... Okay, take it easy.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Yeah, stick with the aliens, boy, Dexter.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Yeah, some people would do anything to get out of a dinner party.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
You go missing for three days and show up in the wrong pants. The wife is going to have some questions.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
And what did the cops say?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Oh, right. Just another case of the mysterious corduroy lightning that slaps you with new pants.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
This is what the doctor ordered. This is what the doctor ordered.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Somebody out there gets it.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
The lightning pair.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
I thought they were green.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Why not?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
It is frustrating when you can't explain your pants.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
581: The Disappearance of Peter Williamson | Lightning Pants from Another Dimension
Oh, easy. Just get hit with lightning and travel to another dimension.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
A planet-wide resonance system? Oy vey. Hello, tech support? Yeah, my human is speaking nerd again. I need a translation.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Pop sounds like an elf. Are we talking Legolas or one of Santa's slaves?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Oh, my second wife generated ELF sounds. Extremely loud and furious.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Yeah, tell that to a lawyer. After 15 minutes I hit ELF, I signed over the keys to my 84 Camaro. Oh, I love that car.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Oh, is this why every time I'm in a dentist's office, I suddenly know all the lyrics to It's Raining Men?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Oh, good. Hallelujah.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Does the United States military listen to the EU?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
I don't like certain pharmaceutical trial documents that they weren't sealed for 75 years.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
How dare you! Oh, you didn't see that coming.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Good to meet you.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Grab a heck of a t-shirt. Or one of these festival coffee mugs that will may or may not control your mind and cause you to do all kinds of crazy stuff. Or get a hoodie with my face on it. Or one of these creepy YouTube dolls that's definitely got its mind controlled by some evil powers. Or get one of these squeezy animals. Target heck of a t-shirt.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Oh, come on. Enough with the discounts. I'm trying to buy a new Camaro.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Death ray linked down in your love luggage.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Make America lie again.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Hang on, hang on. Let me see if I follow.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Tesla dies. The government steals its plans for a debt-free machine. They lose their plans. Then by some miracle, they find a guy who patents a bunch of stuff based on Tesla's death ray machine. So they give him money to build this hop thing, but they're not using his stuff. They're using some other stuff, and it's all fine. Nothing to see here. Does that about sum it up? Bullshit.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Ah, the military and acute operation names. It's like naming a guillotine Mr. Snippy.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Did the United States military listen to the UN?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Did the United States military listen to the UN this time?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
586: Weather Weapons & Worse | Tesla's Stolen Tech and the New Arms Race
Did the United States military, uh...
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, there's no doubt about that.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Get my face on it. Get one of these haunted voodoo dolls, the YouTubes. Make a squeezy animal. We may want to cut the fetus joke out.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yeah, well, we're not going to address the elephant in the room.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
How can you not? You look like that kid from Mask.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Sloth love junk. Baby Ruth, Ruth.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, hey, hey, hey. You know you can buy Mount motherfucking Hayes coffee mugs in a Wi-Fi store?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, hey, what do you call a fat psychic?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
And for the record, he's the only person who went to the moon.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I ain't no microwaves. Then how can you enjoy a fresh, delicious meal from Factor? Go to Factor, use promo code... Please don't plug them now. What? They didn't pay for a mid-roll?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, the American people.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I could barely stay awake for some of these.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
How do they know the cause of death without an autopsy?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Mount motherf***ing Hayes.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I'm throwing rocks tonight.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
What's with the new setup? Are we doing the show from here now?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Hey, how do ancient Indians in Tibet end up with the same word for Bigfoot? Well... There would have to be some kind of land bridge between India and America, didn't it?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
He saw aliens at the base?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Ooh, that sounds messy.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
A lot of hot water and towels.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Because if a Bigfoot is giving birth, ooh boy, that's going to be a lot of... I said I get it.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
It always ends with a great flood, doesn't it?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Animals with nuclear weapons.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Mount Motha... Mount Haze.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, come on, are they kidding?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I bet it's still going on.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Hey, did you ever look at Uranus?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yeah, and the CIA likes it that way.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yeah, are we getting new names?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Well, you know we can't say the S-word. They sue people.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Well, how high did the owl get in the Church of Tom Cruise?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yikes. I mean, oh, congratulations. What a nice achievement.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I love it. What's the problem?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Cawdor and Falcon. Yup.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Permission for who?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
No, he was totally working for the NSA. Probably.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Ooh, like where they keep the ark and all that stuff?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I'd still like to snoop around here. So would I.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Here come the men in black.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Messing with who up there?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Aliens gave them the transistors. Maybe.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yeah, they'd be listening to the radio.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Pyramid power, link below.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Free energy cover-up link below.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
And what happened to those inventors?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yo, Linda is the UFO OG.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, well, obviously.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to step on your fins. You go ahead.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Ah, the underground base.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Project Stargate link below. But if you were psychic, you already knew that.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, oh, are we going to talk about Mount Hayes?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Mount mother Haze.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Justice? Tell that to the Indians they stole the land from. Let's keep it nice.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
That sounds perfect for a government project.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Wait, wait, wait. So they would have to blow a hole in Lincoln's head to do this?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
And nobody saw a problem with that.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Sic semper tyrannis.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Everyone's got a side project.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Hey, you want to read my screenplay?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Sounds like a government-run project.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
What does Mount Rushmore have to do with global warming?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, six minutes. Those were the days, huh?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
They took selfies?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Right. We got a translation?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
That's only five out of nine hikers. Did they find any out of four?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Avalanches don't do that.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
How did the Soviets respond?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Sorry, sorry. Go, go.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I like where this is going.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Aliens. Ball lightning.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
If you believe the reports.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Did you just say they used Frozen?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Let it go, let it go, do do do do do do. That one?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, this I gotta hear.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
I love that movie.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
but what about all the, you know, the weird stuff?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
What? Why leave all their stuff in the tent and go out in the cold in their skivvies?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
What about the radiation?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Yeah, I'm a shy pooper, too.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Can I make a quick point?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
May I refer you to Clark's third law?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
What? Where's the film?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
You see what I did there?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
It is poop involved.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
This guy built an Illuminati sandcastle with magnets.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Sorry, I get excited.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
A pun? No, no, no, no. It was so terrible. No, I didn't mean to do that. Shame on you.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Haven't I always told you don't trust the media?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Storage for dead mummies.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
No, is this one of those episodes where we make the skeptics look like idiots?
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Oh, and the skeptics.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
Ooh, those are my favorite kind of theories.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
The fringier the better. Fringier? Fringier. No, that doesn't sound right. Um, what's your problem? As more and more discoveries were made over the years, more evidence emerged that the Great Pyramid as a power plant wasn't fringe science, but actual science.
The Why Files: Operation Podcast
582: COMPILATION: Pyramids, Mounds and Mountains
No, sir, let me get this straight. You stick the shafts into the queen's chamber, which gets the stones excited?
Two Hot Takes
199: A Chaotic Distraction..
Yeah. No, I would come out swinging. That's what I'm saying.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby
Problem gelöst.
Two Parents & A Podcast
Dad insecurities, providing for the family & bonding with baby
Es ist eines der besonderen Dinge bei der Erziehung eines Kindes. Du siehst... Ja, es bringt dich wirklich zurück in...
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Oh, I thought her rolling was because of those arm things.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Okay. Yeah, we're not trying to get her jacked. We had someone... Yeah, sorry, I cut you off. No.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yeah, so that's kind of where I was getting to, is I think that the reason why she's sleeping as well is because she's figured out that piece of being able to roll, which obviously you helped her a lot with. I don't want it to sound like there's an intense military situation going on here. It's very fun and playful.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Maybe you can do a video about it showing everyone.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
I think you're giving me too much credit relative to especially how much you do, but thank you very much. And most importantly, I'm glad that she is getting her sleep and you are getting your sleep and I'm getting my sleep.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
We've signed. We're waiting on their countersign documents. And we've gone back and forth about many, many things. But hopefully we are at the finish line and get it done.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Speaking of sleeping and my sister, because she told us the 515 thing, she told me another great story.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Um, so we've talked about like when it's okay to lie to your kids or it's like not lie to your kids. I think my brother-in-law nailed the best way to lie to your kid.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
What was it? So he really wanted to watch something. Okay. So he really wanted to watch the Masters. And so he told his daughter that the winner of the Masters got a unicorn because he had to look after her. And so she sat with him all day Sunday and watched the full Masters. So that way she could then celebrate the person who got the unicorn.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Well, the real move that you do is you chat GPT an image that shows a unicorn with a golfer and boom, done.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yeah. I don't know if the last part happened, but that's what I would have done. I think that's just like a really, really good lie.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yeah. I do want to clarify though. I am not a fan of that golf tournament. I do not understand why people like watching golf so much on television. Like the whole, I would love to go to the, to the event and like experience it live. But like the, the, it felt like the buzz that it was getting on social this year, like snooze fest. Yeah.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
So when we were at Tom Segura, he pointed out like the crazy statistics about Augusta National. Can you pull these, please, Julie? When Augusta National allowed women in and when Augusta National allowed black people in, it is like way, way too late.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
How they managed to do that and not just get completely taken to the woodshed is crazy. Yeah, Augusta National, not allowing women in the club until 2012.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
I've met with people from the city. I've met with lawyers. I've met with zoning specialists. Yeah.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yep. I just, I know someone that went and reminded me. I owe them a phone call. Uh-oh. Okay.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yeah, I have amazing memories of the tooth fairy. My parents crushed that.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yeah, they can. We can go give them like the transaction ID and then they can go search the transaction ID to see how much money was sent to them.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
I'm with you. And I remember trying to always catch the tooth fairy.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Oh, I just texted for an update. Give me an update.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
I think that what I would like to do is wait till it's over the finish line. Let's go through the episode and then like hopefully there's an update and hopefully they sign and then the house is ours.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
I can confidently say I use a carrier every single day. Yes, you do. Okay. Often multiple times a day. We have a lot of carriers. Fortunately, we've been gifted quite a few. My least favorite carrier is this artichoke. Artifope. Yeah. My favorite carrier is the $29.99 carrier off Amazon that I want to put the photo up of.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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This is, of all the baby things I've heard, of all the baby purchases, this one on a standalone basis is the most ridiculous. And secondarily, the $3,000 one is fucking absurd. Like fucking absurd.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Unless it comes with wheels or it comes with like breast milk. I would buy it. Not a chance.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
I love this house. And then people will be like, wait, how does them signing mean the house is yours? Hopefully we can get into all that. But if not, we're going to keep you on the cliff for another week.
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that's at these levels 1500 i know you could buy two and a half it's like it's if it's been a bad one for me are you in is it our time's tough over there uh yeah i think we're like flat since 2017 it's not a good one 2017 it's not a good one it's not a good one that's it's 2025 eight years of a plateau
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It's for the parent. 100% it's for the parent. Like it's a status symbol.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah, I just like – I don't like that one. It's the one I used initially and – But some people love the carrier.
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Okay, fine. And at $300, like so be it. Like still expensive but like – If that's your favorite carrier, fine. I don't know. This Amazon one is the best. It's got this double support angle situation going on. I like the pattern schemes. Tate loves it.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Well, I've gained 16 pounds since we've had her. So it's just a pretty clear offset.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Uh, I think a dad, yeah, I'm, I'm far past the dad bod right now. I don't, I haven't like worked out. I probably worked out once in the past month.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I don't have the ability to whip it back. I'm like so far gone on that.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I'm just picking my battles right now between work, between obviously the time with Tate and now the housing situation and all the babysitting I'm doing of you. I had to cut the gym.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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We're being vague because like – yes. And I'm the driver of us being vague.
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Yeah, the pause and like recognize. I was like, come on. I thought I nailed that one.
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No, I want to race and I want to sign up for something and get back into it. And I think I need like a bro to go do this with. So maybe me and the neighbor will start getting into it. But neighbor's a fucking beast.
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Yeah, I don't feel bad. Like, I'm not... I really don't want you to feel bad. I'm not mad at myself. And I like...
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I'm just in a kind of balanced era. I'm happy with my relationship with food right now. I'm happy with my relationship with alcohol. We're having fun. We're going out. We're drinking. We're eating good meals. It feels like Monday through Thursday or Sunday through Wednesday, we're on the healthier side.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah, I don't know. I'm happy with the balance, but that's led to not being in great shape.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah. But I think the big thing with her in the restaurants now is we still need to be temperature controlled. Sorry, noise controlled.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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It was quiet and so she was good with it. But like she hates noise.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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And our current deadline is Friday. They extended our lease till Friday.
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We bought our first home
Okay. I mean, you got a better memory than me. So do you want to start with Coachella or do you want me to?
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Okay. So there's a few things. So my first take on Coachella is every year that I hear about Coachella happening, I think it's like, oh, like I feel like it's a thing of the past. I'm like, oh, people still go to that. And then every year I like see the videos like, man, like that actually looks pretty fun. So like every year I think it's dead. And then every year it happens. Oh, shit.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I saw that on one of my socials and I thought it was very well played.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Well, no. So actually I did a little different. I saw something on Twitter, which is a new AI agent that can make phone calls for you and book reservations for you.
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Um, she also, shoot, I have a call that I need to push one second.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I was going to give her some flowers on, I think that Marg's drink that she launched.
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I think that's an example of a good celebrity brand launch.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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That's great. Yeah. I think that she was due to do an alcohol. I think that...
Two Parents & A Podcast
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i think that the margs brand makes a lot of sense and she really seems to be leaning into it and i think that's i think she was doing an activation at coachella i think that's why why they were there that's really cool it's really fun but i don't know julie what do you think jules pleads the fifth well i don't know i felt like you were kind of i felt like my statement on on the brand kind of sparked uh
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No, I'm not an investor in the brand. I have not tried the brand. But I think that a lot of these celebrities, like, I think that when something is executed well, like, I like calling it out.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah, my favorite thing is when you work with brands that either you use or I use or we both use. And so I like DoorDash is a great example of that. Like, obviously, we're both very frequent users. And so I love that we like it and they're also getting creative with it.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I DoorDashed my lunch today. Shout out Sweetgreen as well. This is just like a lot of shout outs today.
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Yeah. And so I wanted to use that agent to one, plan the date. like the itinerary, but then two, call the restaurants and book it. No question. Yeah. And so it was amazing. I like, I made a TikTok video. I like showed me interacting with it and then it showed a calling it and book, like plan the whole thing. But the phone call didn't work. Yeah.
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I'm getting scammed. Yes. I'm getting scammed by Food Panda, which is the DoorDash of Hong Kong. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. You got to see this. This is unbelievable. Someone has hacked my Food Panda online. Yeah. Look at this. Every day. Every day. Can we zoom in on this? I'll take a screenshot. Every day I have food panda orders. Okay. And so today I literally order placed.
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It was delivered to 8B Davis Street number 11. And they ordered one Japan Ran O-Egg, one Ile de France Petit Camembert, one Tejado's Devil Spicy and Sour Potato Rings, and one Kokia Pure Potato Yuzu Pepper Potato Chips. Order total 169 honky.
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Yeah, order placed. Okay. Yeah, because I don't ever look at my Gmail and someone sent me something on my Gmail. I'm like, food panda?
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I think that it's my Hong Kong bank account, which has been a fucking story for another time.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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So someone is draining my Hong Kong bank account with food panda.
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Yeah, 20. They've got $20 bills out there. The 500s, those are the juicy guys.
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I think $600 is it all is I think it's like six to one ratio okay so yeah the taxis there man those are those are some crazy taxis in Hong Kong are those the minivans no so that's two separate things so do you want me to talk about minivans or taxis taxis um, okay. So the taxis, they are, they look like they're cars from the nineties.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Like you would think that you're in the nineties when you get in them. Cause like they're these old school Toyota's, but they are spick and span clean. So like you get in there and, um, and it's just like a very nice experience, but they do love to yell at you.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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It's the opposite of the cleanliness of New York city cabs, but similar vibe where you like always feel like you're in trouble with, with the cabbies.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Oh, so they have something called Octopus and you have an Octopus card. Food Panda and Octopus. Yeah. And the Octopus card, you can pay for everything with it. And it's like, it's how you get on the subway. You take it at 7-Eleven. And I think they implemented Octopus cards in taxis. So the last time I was there, I believe that was the change. When I lived there, they didn't.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Like Hong Kong is one of the most special places in the world. I cannot wait till... Till we go. And we're going to bring Bubber.
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Why? Okay. So can you just email what the notes are and then we can send them to our lawyer? Okay. Okay.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
Yeah, I loved it. But like AI ain't taken our jobs yet. And on the topic of dates, I would like to talk about our date last night, our double date last night.
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Okay. So what was the update? There's more edits that they want to make to the contract. So our lawyer is going to review them and... And we'll see. We have till Friday to figure it out. So I guess that, I mean, that is, I guess the, I really was hoping that they were going to sign it. Yeah.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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So, so we have till Friday to get the deal done and we're trying to buy our house and we thought we had a deal, but we just heard that we're still working through the edits.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah. I thought we were, I thought we were done. Oh,
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Yep. So, I guess, is that a good way to wrap up this episode?
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah, I think what went down is when they called, they had two pieces of feedback. Our lawyers approved their suggestions. And so docs are signed. And now we've got to go close. But they're just so pumped that this is where we landed. And can't wait to talk about it more.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah, and it is super cool to be sharing it in real time as it's happening and bring everyone in on the process. So yeah, it's a pretty special time.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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So let's, let's go through the episode and then hopefully we have an update at some point throughout the episode.
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cute but i don't want to go there on another date you and i because it's not like the most romantic but it's a really fun spot yeah i i thought it was i thought it was a cool a cool one to to check out and hilariously ironic that ai told us to go there i think ai telling us to go to space cowboy of all the restaurants in austin is is hilarious because it's a robot restaurant and then most importantly saying it could call and book it and the ai failing us
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I thought there was a very kind of like... So the restaurant last night, it was called Topper of Sushi. And the way it worked is it was like a two-part meal. So you started at a sushi bar where they gave you hand rolls. And then after you had your hand rolls served, then you'd go sit down at a table. And we'd never met this couple before.
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And the dynamic of sitting beside the other person at a bar to kick things off where like him and I had one on one time. Like we didn't talk as a couple. I talked to him and you talked to her. To me, it was like it was an amazing way to start the date because I felt like I really got to know him. Right. Like we didn't we didn't need to share the mic.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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And so by the time we transitioned to the big table, I felt like the conversation like flowed really well.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Well, me and this guy, we got like straight into like the meat and bones of conversation. And this guy, he was just super, super interesting, super nice. And I thought it was like to really just like get a – I felt like I got a really good feel of like – The A to Z of him in that first 15 minutes. So like it allowed me to really enjoy the day. The other thing that I think is like.
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One of my favorite qualities in people is people who are really confident but have no ego.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Yeah. No, I mean, they both were were it was it was a really fun time. Yeah. But that dynamic I was calling out of like the confidence with no ego is like that is you love that. That is the sweet spot.
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I think the point is like we had a moment to connect. And I think that if we just sat down as the four of us, him and I wouldn't have been able to like identify what our like common interests are, what our personal interests are, like where we can relate or not relate. And so that was just like, I really liked it. And I like-
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before we go on double dates with people like i don't know i kind of want to it doesn't need to be that like that dual setup but we just like let's go get a drink at a bar beforehand and then go sit down so that way like um especially you know given our aforementioned dynamics julie looks like she's looking did something happen okay i don't know i was getting a look like something was off jules is everything okay
Two Parents & A Podcast
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Um, and yeah, she was great too. I'm only talking about him.
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Wait, can I say one crazy, crazy that he told me he he's, he's hosting this race and it's called last man standing. Okay. And the way it works is you have an hour to run a 4.1 mile loop. And the last man standing who does the most, the loops the most amount of times wins. And like people may do, it's an ultra marathon. So like some people may do the loop up to 200 total miles, right?
Two Parents & A Podcast
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He thinks that the- So you do the loop like 25 times. So did what I say make sense? Pardon?
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No, no, no. So you have one hour to complete the loop.
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4.1 miles. Oh. Yes. Then hour two, the race starts again. Hour three, you do another loop. Hour four, you do another loop.
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Yeah. And then he makes products that are for like ultra endurance athletes. And so like it's the perfect tie in and brand building event. And like that is the other thing is like learning about how you build community with a brand and trading notes. I was like, well, that's just a fucking awesome idea. So, yeah, big fan of this guy. Shut up.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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The person who dropped out first is 12 miles. Yeah, it's unbelievable. But it's a different profile of athlete, not me.
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I would love to do it. Okay. I would love to do it.
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I think that it all comes down to like who, where is the relationship?
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I think that's going to be the driver. That's just my new request is I want one-on-one time with the guys for like on all double dates.
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Yeah. And just want to know, like, is it going to be like, yeah, what type of conversation is it going to be?
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No, you don't want to go airing out your worst nickname with a last name like Fugman, you know. It's not hard. It's not hard.
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Yeah. But I think, yeah, I, I, I don't know. I don't have a read on that. I'm just saying. Yeah.
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I'm just so not into... I don't know. I feel like I'm bad with mass generalized statements like that.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I sent, so we were doing the 515 method and Haley texted me yesterday asking how she's sleeping. Our monitor gives her a sleep efficiency score, which is like a little intense for babies, but her sleep efficiency score was 99%. She slept for eight hours and 53 minutes straight. She snoozes like her dad.
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But I actually think... I think that the credit – I think we're giving too much credit to the 5-10-15 method.
Two Parents & A Podcast
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I don't think I've ever heard that one, but I'd go with it.
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Because my observation during her restless nights was the reason why she was so frustrated is because she was trying to get to her stomach and she couldn't get to her stomach. And then I learned about baby exercises. Thank you to you. And I think that these baby exercises – have given her enough strength to start rolling over.
Two Parents & A Podcast
We bought our first home
And so if you watch her now, like now she's snoozing on her chest because she can get there. Do you want to talk about the baby exercises? It sounds like ridiculous when it's coming out of my mouth, but like, and I never wanted to be the type...
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