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In a paper called, quote, Chickens Prefer Beautiful Humans. Right. This was actually the title of the paper. They all discovered that much like humans, chickens are attracted to symmetrical faces. Got it. We're talking medical miracles.

There's no way to make that not sound crazy.

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In a paper called, quote, Chickens Prefer Beautiful Humans. Right. This was actually the title of the paper. They all discovered that much like humans, chickens are attracted to symmetrical faces. Got it. We're talking medical miracles.

There's no way to make that not sound crazy.

Hey, Will. Do you ever get overwhelmed by how much science happens these days? Constantly. I'm like, ah, there's so much science. I can't keep track of it all. Then it's a good thing our podcast, Part-Time Genius, is counting down the 25 greatest science ideas from the past 25 years.

I'm with him.

I didn't want to bring this up, but Brooke and I do have a favorite bathroom in the city. It's that Italian restaurant. We both have the most Instagrammable pictures inside.

He's right, though. It does reflect on the staff. Really? Have you ever looked up the bathroom before you go somewhere? Absolutely.

The big debate is supposed to be over, not under. Right, Brooke?

I hope they call us back, and he's like, dude, she is so messy. I can't stand it.

Look at us right now.

Oh, I was like, wait a minute, Brooke.

Away.

Gym acquaintances.

Walking up to a girl immediately, give me your number.

Okay.

Sorry. Yes.

No, I don't. But good for you, Paul. You're able to talk to Kelly.

Wait a minute. You're like, let's just meet back here same time tomorrow? Whose idea was that?

And they're gym rats, but together.

Okay, that's cute. That would be fun too if you're health conscious. Yeah.

Oh, how's it going? How ugly is he?

Okay. Jumping right in. Okay.

Is this a green flag?

Hey, bro, at 530, text me, and I'm going to, yeah.

Oh, man, will you? And he's a gym bro, so you're imagining him shirtless doing it. All right.

What does that sound funny?

Yeah, in the other room. So he heard his phone go off and was just like, whatever that was, go check it.

Oh, so maybe she found something else that wasn't in the text.

Wow, you never respond this quick.

It's not because Jose being handsome is so viral. Yeah. Darn it. That was last month, Jose. Okay, my bad. I didn't see that on my TikTok.

Okay. In a good way?

You gave yourself the ick.

What could possibly ruin it then?

Me.

Yeah, it did remind me of like a married couple.

Not me, that's where I write all my comedy jokes. That's where I write what I need to talk to my therapist about.

What was in it?

No, I mean, the thing about Rachel, she sounds like someone who's very organized and maybe very different from you and could really bring some other aspects to your life that you don't have right now.

Give her a second chance. On the second date, she knows that already. She doesn't have a second note card. Do you, Rachel?

Look at that. Maybe you could just change a few things. She's funny. She's funny, Jack.

So are you just saying yes? Is that what you're saying, Jack?

Okay. She still wants you to remember that.

OK, we just need to apologize right now for taking over your TikTok for you page. Yeah. Sorry, not sorry. My God. Yes. All the old ones are going viral, but the new ones are so much better. OK, I'm so glad you found them. Follow like whatever you're supposed to do on these podcasts and just sit back and listen.

Like ever? Ever.

I'm just curious because I've never been on dating apps, right? Because I met my husband, like, before they were huge. Oh, yeah. Like, what is it like for your first time?

So I feel like a weekend date is a big commitment date. I don't know. Like using your weekend for that.

And what was that like for you? Because it's like your first dating app.

What the? It's her first dating app. It's the first guy she's met on this. I would be so nervous if I were you. Just because, God, that's a lot.

What was the actual date like?

Did your ex come up a lot? Because, I mean, you did mention to us that you were together for a really, really long time.

It could also come across as rude, though. Like, you're also assuming that that's all that he's looking for, you know? That's all true, yeah.

So we finished the first nap. Is it time? He could have been insulted by that.

Oh, honey. I'm glad.

That's hard. You probably were still emotional then if you're just like just now not crying, talking about him.

Yeah, it always enhances. Do you think that that's why Jack isn't calling you back?

The side hug? Like I do with all my friends? Yeah. Like a one-armed hug.

Cry about her ex.

Still, yeah.

And also, it's like, you know, this is new to you. There's a lot of options out there that you haven't even explored. I knew this was coming. I mean, we'll see.

That's how you get over people, Jeff.

She hasn't even really dated in her adult life. I mean, you've had the same boyfriend since you were in college, you know, like just want you to make up for lost time. But OK, let's call Jack.

hello hey is this jack yeah this is jack is this hey jack my name is jeff from the radio show brooke and jeffrey in the morning hello oh that's that's my co-host brooke who just jumped in with a weird voice no it just sounded like how he was hitting on us when he answered the phone so i was like returning the favor jack oh yeah i just think it's interesting because like it was an unknown number right were you expecting someone else on the phone jack

Well, we heard a lot of good things about you, so that's a good start.

Um, was she attracted to her? Did you feel like you guys had some chemistry?

It's okay. I mean, she told us some stuff about, like, her ex and maybe how she talked about that on the date.

And a good listener. She said you're a great listener.

And that wasn't good to you?

Okay. What was on the index card?

Who has index cards? Was it a recipe from her grandma or something?

So it wasn't necessarily her boundaries. It was the way they were presented. Is that what you're saying?

And especially talking about on the first date like that, you know, maybe there's a more organic way to work in your boundaries.

She's not respecting your boundary in that way.

Jack.

Yeah. That's a hot pitch right there. I liked it.

All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks, let's do something about it.

What? Hey, I'm down.

Hey, welcome to the second date update, as it was known as the Dwarf update. That's still English, dude. The Dwarf update, the second date.

Are you all very turned on?

Okay, sorry, ladies. You know what?

All the greatest changes have happened when a couple of people said, this sucks, let's do something about it.

Yeah.

Oh, my God, she farted. Oh, girl.

Oh, man. We're in public. Do we have a gift card? I don't know what's going on. One of those breweries where you can bring your dog? Yeah, brewery. Oh, wow.

Oh.

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

How hard does she push against somebody's face while she's making out? I don't know. It's not good.

Oh, my God. By my house, too? Mine is, too. It's so sketchy. It's so weird. I know what you're talking about.

I feel like Brad gave that to more than one girl. Yeah. Did it start with roses are red? Yeah.

Okay, Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime podcast history.

That's not the timing. No? Exactly. It might be funny in a different.

Okay, Sam, that has to be the craziest story in OK Storytime podcast history.

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I don't know what to say.

I have to do my job over here.

What we do on this segment, Zach, is we offer to send you and our listener out on another date. That would be you and Amanda going out and we would pay for it.

Zach offers on the table.

Amanda, girly, no.

All right. Well, we should probably stop talking.

I don't think so. I just, I'm sorry. What? Jeff.

Jeff.

Okay, I'm ending this now. Oh, I love it. That's your second date update. No date.

We're out of here. Bye.

Second date update. When you meet someone and you chat with them for just a few minutes, but there's an obvious connection there and you have a lot of fun together, can that be considered an insta-date? Or do you need to have like an official meetup for it to count?

I disagree. I think an insta-date is considered a real date. Because I've had many, many experiences that you wouldn't call a by-the-books, pre-prepared hangout. And next thing you know, all the paper towels are gone from the dispenser, and you're both calling the maintenance guy asking for assistance.

I don't expect you guys to understand how fun works. But you just leave that to me. I'm just saying I think that counts. And that's why we got in touch with one of our listeners who said that she had an insta date recently. Her name is Amanda.

Well, you and I are on the same page, Amanda. But for my clued out co-host over here, why don't you tell us what happened?

A dive bar, I think is what she meant.

So you said that you were the one who actually went and approached him. What did you do? How did that interaction happen?

You didn't want to look like you were too aggressive with it. Too thirsty. Exactly.

Just your... You and your family does? I did.

Waffle Face?

That was the name of the horse?

So you guys bonded over horses. That's cool.

Never know. I don't know. Yeah, never heard it.

Okay. That's an obvious sign of attraction. When a guy is mirroring you, that's a sign that he's actually into what you're doing.

OK, well, we have some information to work with here. We're going to play a song. Come back and call your horse loving cowboy, Zach.

I just want to see what this horse-loving guy has to say when we ask for a second date. Is it going to be a yay or a nay?

We'll do a second date update next.

Saddles for seats, boots for drinks, and a mechanical bull that's been out of order for the last decade.

Seriously. Sounds like every single country dive bar within a 10,000-mile radius that I just described there. But that's where one of our listeners went recently. Her name is Amanda, and she met a very well-put-together, good-looking man named Zach while she was there. The two of them vibed over horseback riding stories and even danced to an old Britney Spears song.

Like I said earlier, this was an insta-date. It wasn't something that they had planned to meet up beforehand. They just ran into each other. So we don't know if Zach is technically even single or what's going on.

We're going to call him and we're going to see what he meant by that. And Brooke, you've been skeptical and bitter throughout most of this so far. So what are your thoughts before we reach out to Zach?

You know, that's hopeful.

What a fun household to grow up in.

All right, Zach, here we go. Gotta remember that. Zach, Zach, here we go. Dollar's number right now. Hello? Hey, is this Zach?

Hey.

I'm calling from a radio show. Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

Well, no. We're co-workers. Yeah. I'm at work, and we're doing something right now. You know? That's how the show works.

I don't know. Zach, let's talk to Zach. Zach, we need to talk to you about something else. We do a segment called A Second Date Update.

Brooke, stop it. There's a girl named Amanda who reached out to us. She said that she met you at a happy hour the other night.

Yeah, so that's her. This is more of a business call, Zach.

No, this is not how we normally do it.

Several, I think. Amanda wanted our help to find out from you if you would be interested in seeing her. Okay, hold on.

Yeah, that's how this works. It's called a second date update.

Yes, it's just for our listener, Amanda, and not for anything else.

Oh, wow. She's just coming out and saying it.

I don't know if that's what I said.

It's a little cowboy reference for you. Zach, how does that sound? I'm not shy.

Yeah, I did not see this coming. This is all making sense now, though.

You know, with just, like, the interest in horses and the Britney Spears dancing.

The fashion tips. Yeah.

Let's go with that one.

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Oh my gosh.

Yeah, that's not a red flag at all.

That's a little too much.

Okay, well, I mean, even if they don't tell us, most of them are thinking that.

So you're committed here. I mean, are we just calling this person because they rejected you? Like, let's be honest for a second.

Oh. I'm so jealous of dudes with beards. I love a good beard. Jeff, looking at you.

Stop it.

You looked at him when you said it.

Okay, God. You guys are so uncomfortable.

Three. Hey, you're already breaking the rules. That's a second date update. So, now there's a fourth date update, actually, today.

What'd you do? Just real quick. Are you doing coffee or what?

Oh, wait. On purpose? Yeah.

That's so funny. Wait, but was it like jeans and a plain t-shirt or like something crazy? That's true.

No. Oh. The room thinks this is a good thing. Okay, what were you doing for your date?

The same good date twice. Just with different outfits both times. Yeah.

How am I going to find you in the restaurant if we're going on a date?

Okay, so that one obviously went well because there was a third date, right?

That's the right timing.

Well, I mean, it's the third date. Like, things happen, right? Like, maybe he got caught at work or something. Was it super late or, like, just normally?

Okay. So you're still feeling good?

Yeah, what happened?

Because he's probably confused. Is he confused or is he trying not to hear it?

Did you pay for the last two dates? Because then I could kind of see it. That's a good question.

Traditional guys would go, oh, no way, give me that bill. But after a few dates, it's different. I don't know, like, every date, like, and she's the one that put the credit card down, I would think that you're telling me that you're wanting to pay.

He didn't say thank you? No.

Oh. That's weird because you paid. Like, it feels like.

His half. Okay. He should. There's Venmo. It's easy. I don't know. Seriously. You can't say that. Like, a guy can't come back and say you didn't go out with me again. I mean, if you're never going to see him again, what's the harm in asking? Alexis, if a dude asked you that, you'd be so upset. But I would do it because I can't say no.

Oh, that's the music.

Wait, I haven't seen these movies. Explain.

That's pretty good, Jeff.

Yeah. Well, kind of.

It was a little awkward at the end. Like, don't you think, Ari, that he thought you wanted to pay?

Oh.

Okay, we hyped you too much. You lost it. I think you need the music. Yeah, that's what it is.

I'm doing well. I'm really good. I'm good too, Victor. Thanks for asking. What about you, Alexis? I don't think he cares. Yeah.

For what you said? It's about what?

Why did your voice get deeper and deeper?

I see. All right.

All right, Victor.

I hope so. You guys went on three dates together.

Okay, so this is sounding positive.

It feels like the momentum has stopped.

Oh.

She's still in the fold.

Oh, that's not too bad.

That seems normal.

It doesn't feel great to deliver that news to her.

I mean, this is the awkward part.

Assessing the damage right now on his head.

Okay, you're going to say it again.

Yeah, he does.

No. Okay.

Well, I don't know about forever. I think she's just saying three dates you need to know.

I might know them.

Nope, never do names. Never show instas either.

What a welcome to our city.

We got a lot of people to date. The dating scene is totally cool. Victor, you're not saying anything. What are the girls' names?

Oh, that's interesting. Because he can't stop saying that. Do you think that he's just trying to cover? Like maybe he just doesn't like you that much or something? I don't mean it in a mean way. He may be trying to be nice.

Damn, that's a headache.

No wonder it was a nice date. I appreciate that she's doing all the work for us.

Do you see the point here?

But you didn't even say thank you afterwards.

OK, Rachel, look at that. We've reached this middle ground and now it's a good time to ask, would you two be willing to go out on one more date? And we'll pay for it. Give me a Y. Give me an E. Give me an S. I missed the chance.

That's a yes from Brett and a yes from Rachel. That means successful second date update, guys.

He got a piece of it. He got a piece of it. He got a R-E-S-T rest of it.

This is embarrassing. I just discovered I actually had no idea what the bases were.

You know, like when you go out on a date and you end up getting to first base with this person?

I always thought that involved a lot more than the internet says. Because they say first base is just kissing.

Kissing is an intentional walk in my playbook. Ha ha! but maybe i need to put my bases up on my instagram it's young jeffrey that means everyone gets a kiss bro oh but uh you know if reverse cowgirl is between first and second it's not you're gonna want to hear what third base is for me oh please don't slide that is like Check it on my Insta. What? It's young Jeff.

I only bring it up because one of our listeners, Brett, emailed us saying he got to second base before the date even really started.

I'll have you over for a party soon, and we can go over everything. But tell us about the girl that you want us to call today. What's her name?

Rachel, all right.

So what did you end up doing for your date?

Yeah, absolutely. What did Rachel think of her first hockey game? She loved it, actually.

Okay. That doesn't sound too harmful.

Good thing we practiced before.

Exactly. It's because they stopped selling beer in the third period.

Yeah. Well, I almost followed, but it went to overtime.

You text her. You missed out.

All right. We're going to play a song. We're going to come back. We'll call Rachel for you and try and get you your second date update. All right, Brett? Yeah, sounds great. All right, hold on, man.

We just got done talking to Brett about his first date the other night at a hockey game with a woman named Rachel. And there was a lot going on there, but we probably need to circle back to his email where he mentioned that before the game, they had some drinks where he ended up getting to second base. It reminds me of a sports chant that I do all the time. He got a piece of it.

He got a piece of it. We need the R-E-S-T rest of it. Is that appropriate for the scenario?

I'd never take you to a hockey game, that's for sure.

She's a B. Give me an I. I kind of like that one.

Let's just talk to Brett. Brett, we're about to call Rachel here, man. Is there anything that we missed from your first date that we need to highlight? Nope. That's it.

I mean, that's a good point. That could be the main issue that she ended up leaving and Brett decided to stay to see how things played out with his home team.

Probably. Yeah. Okay. I was going to help you score a home run, but that's all right. If you don't want to.

All right. Well, baby steps. We'll get there. Let's just dial her phone number and see what she has to say. All right. Here we go. I'm good.

Hey, is this Rachel?

Hey, Rachel, my name's Jeff from the morning show Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning on the radio.

Are you a hockey fan by chance?

All right.

Depending on how the rest of this call goes, maybe.

Because we heard that you went on a date recently with one of our listeners named Brett to a hockey game.

Okay. Yeah. What we're doing right now is called a second date update because after the hockey game, Brett's been having a hard time getting in touch with you, and he's not 100% sure of the reason why.

From what we heard, it was a really good game and a big night for everybody. I know that he did mention that you left early before it ended, and I understand that. I'm an old person at heart. I know you've got to beat the traffic. You don't want to get stuck.

Maybe he didn't even realize that he was being that intense.

Well, let's ask him directly because, Rachel, I got to tell you, on the other line, we have a little surprise for you. Give me a B. No. Give me an R. Well, Brett's there.

And I think a lot of other people, bread aside, are in the same exact boat. Like when you're at the sports game, you're in sports mode. And nothing else matters or counts.

At least he didn't do anything too over the line, like paint his face or something.

Oh, no. Okay, well, that backfired.

Ha.

Sean Stiller? Ethan Stiller. Oh, that's right.

I'm really thankful after that slogan of the day. Okay, since we're spreading hate, everyone, let's go around the room and say, who do you hate? Brooke? No. Oh.

You go first.

That's awesome. What a great start. Sense of humor is so important. For sure.

Yeah, they're like, did you just tell a joke? No. Ew. Good. Gross. How dare you laugh.

See, I was taking some sort of FBI watch list too.

You're talking to millions of people daily in one privacy. That's funny.

I imagine he puts up security cameras to look at their security cameras.

What were you talking about? You were like, hey, I have 13 security cameras in my house, by the way.

So maybe that's what he said. Hey, by the way, I have no security cameras. There's no traces of me anywhere.

Oh, she could be a streamer like me. She could do one of those marathon streams where she doesn't get off until she gets a certain amount of subs. That seems highly likely. Yes. Okay, probably not.

Wait a minute. It's unbelievable what you're about to say?

Only celebrities do that.

Thanks for explaining it, actually.

And he's clearly a wanted man. Subject A through Z have all of my NDAs.

Totally. It was just so manipulative, Justin.

Have you done this more than once?

Oh, that's a good question.

I didn't say cereal. I said more than once.

Right before the restraining order takes effect. I mean, that's the type of move this is, Justin. Why don't you feel bad? Why haven't you apologized?

Okay, it was my tire. Oh, my God.

If you're psycho and planning to slash your own tire, don't do it.

I'm just taking lobster time right now. Yeah, like buying flowers, doing normal things, not psychotic things.

Oh, my God.

I can't believe we're looking at murder red flags right now. But I'm pretty sure this is one of them.

The guy who obviously keeps a knife on him for his tire slashing.

Hey, I stole you these flowers. That's why your ex-girlfriend stuck around.

Because you manipulated her into it.

I'm not.

Ever. It won't ever work if you do this.

That's optimistic. Yeah, probably maybe.

No, Jeff.

101.

Psychos for Dummies. That could be good.

We can also do dummies for psychos.

Yeah, you know. A lot of options here. Oh, my God.

Yeah, I feel like we can get anyone together. There's like a tire repair woman out there who loves this guy. Yeah. She just didn't hear the break yet.

Okay. Yeah, I think there's a tire shop that loves his idiotity.

Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.

J. Edgar Hoover was furious. He was out of his mind and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees.

I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is fighting worse. Okay, I'll put the hammer back.

Part of the power of Black queer creativity is the fact that we got us, you know?

We are the greatest culture makers in world history.

J. Edgar Hoover was furious. He was out of his mind and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees.

Hey, welcome to a brand new second date podcast. It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. We're so glad you found us. Yes, on a Friday. Hey, we want to hear in the comments the worst joke or prank somebody's tried to pull on you during a date.

Oh, yeah.

Because that is definitely the theme of at least the first half of our second date update today. Like trying to be flirty and ends up bad. Yeah, yeah. One time I like, I don't know why, okay, don't get me wrong, but I hit a guy's phone out of his hand and it hit his front tooth and chipped it in it, bro. Stop it.

Yep. Nope, I'm dead serious.

Yeah, yep, yep. In college. Did you end up dating that guy?

I did.

Got for a little bit. Did he dump you after he finally got his tooth fixed and it looked better? Yeah, right? Oh, is that why he broke up with you?

Yeah, that's it. That's it.

Okay.

Oh, you got a full set.

Yeah. All right.

Hey, we want to hear your horror story. Put them in the comments. Thanks so much for being here. Please like, follow, subscribe, share, do all the things. Yes. And let's get this second date started.

Wow, Jeff. It's two dates at the same time, Jeff. I think everybody knows what a double date is.

What?

You mean he went on two dates in one night.

It's going to be a second date update, and then we'd be too close to that. So, okay, we'll go with yours.

It's like an after date.

Oh, gosh. That's not what happened. I think he's joking. That's the way I think.

Oh, good.

Okay, and how did you arrange the first hangout?

No, it's just often people don't describe themselves as into mini golf.

You know what I mean?

Like you do it, but you're not into it.

You throw the idea out and people go, oh, that sounds fun. But no one's like, oh, my God, I did nine rounds last week. I'm so ready.

Yeah, we get it.

I just teased you a little bit.

You hid from her?

Oh, again. That's what I heard.

You can't jump out and yell surprise after she says that out loud.

You hear him leave, like run away.

She was angry and embarrassed, but it was funny. Yeah. Worth it.

Also, in your defense, bro, you didn't know that she had been left on dates before and you weren't trying to trigger anything. You were just having fun.

It's funny regardless.

Yeah, obviously. She did finally laugh about it.

So was that like the middle of the night, or did you have a lot of hangout time after that?

Oh, no.

What?

Oh, that is not a prank. Slashed your tire? Do you have, like, a crazy ex or something out there? I'm glad you said that's the first thing I thought.

I mean, she could have a crazy ex, too. Oh, she sees a car in the driveway. But hopefully not. What was it like going back to her door and telling her what happened? Yeah.

Yeah. I bet she felt so bad. Yeah. I mean, even though it's not her fault, right? Like whenever somebody comes over to my house and something bad happens in my neighborhood, I'm like, Oh my God. Or someone in my apartment parking garage. I'm like, I'm so embarrassed.

Is this the second date?

It just clicked for me.

Dude, and you didn't have a toothbrush with you, so that says a lot that she would give you a little kiss.

Well, finger brush, you better have done that.

One orange juice breath.

Oh, God, Jeff.

Oh, forehead kiss.

I don't know. You guys are sick.

It's us that's the problem here.

Our cars get stolen. Oh. All four tires gone.

Yeah, which is strange.

Was the quick peck that bad?

I'm just kidding. Like I said, he didn't have a toothbrush, so maybe it was.

Come on, it can't be morning breath. Everyone gets that.

Not for a second. She thought that she got ditched again. Do you remember that?

Although it did sound like you guys recovered because you did go back to her place. She invited you there. So maybe there's just some simple misunderstanding we're going to fix.

I'm ready to fight. Oh, this is fighting words. Okay, I'll put the hammer back.

There's a first time for everything, Jeff, and I am an optimistic person. We're off to a good start. That's what we're saying. Oh, Alexis, I am.

Well, hello. You're so pleasant sounding. I know she is, isn't she? Good morning.

Oh, this is Jose. Sorry. Jeff, do your job, bro. We're a whole show. Oh, yeah. I interrupted. My bad.

She likes that game.

We don't need to go through all the interviews.

Remember before, I'm Jose. Just tell her why we're calling you Jeff. Okay.

Okay, I thought you'd explain the segment first.

You didn't have to tear the Band-Aid off like that.

Did you hang up? Tracy, are you still there? Hello? Yes.

Oh, thank goodness. She was zoned out. You know what? We thought Jeff lost another one.

Well, we heard that you went on a date, and now I forgot the guy's face.

What do you mean?

To him, right?

I don't think that's what she was... He did tell us about the mini-golf incident. That was pretty shady.

Part of the power of Black queer creativity is the fact that we got us, you know?

Wait.

Lied to?

Did you catch him in a lie, you're saying?

Oh.

He doesn't know that you know.

Well, don't you want to call him out? I mean, that's what people tend to want to do when someone lies to them. You want to be like... No.

What?

Shut up.

Wait. Are you sure? Like, I mean, it's dark on those surveillance things. Oh, my God.

We are the greatest culture makers in world history.

It's scary.

He slags his tires and knocks on your door.

This is not going to look good right now.

She has proof. Yeah. That's crazy.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what the manager was doing.

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, we had no idea.

Always noble to slash one's own tires, Jeff.

So you did do this? That's your... Oh, my God!

We got to hang out the next week.

That's your move? Your move is slashing your own tire? Like, you don't have confidence enough in your game?

No one in the history of the world has ever thought slashing tires is cute. No. It's just, it's like a story for the police, maybe.

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It really sucks.

I'm glad he was good in person. It was like a real pleasant surprise for sure.

Well, yeah, I mean, it makes you feel like did something happen? What's the deal?

Well, I mean, I would just wonder if you have some I would be kind of nervous. Like, is this person all right?

You know, I'm a mother. I'm a grandmother.

Hi, Jake. Jumping right in. Drupal's not by himself. My name's Nina.

And I'm Victoria.

What's up, Jake? How's it going?

No, that's okay.

Jake, can I ask you what types of questions make you feel comfortable? Because I don't know about you guys, but I don't like to waste my time with like, oh, look at the chandelier. It's so beautiful. I'd rather know about you. Yeah. Although I probably would talk about chandelier. But deeper conversations are more meaningful than the surface level. Like, how's the weather?

Like, so what kind of questions?

Yeah.

Huh. Technically isn't everybody until you're not. I'm sorry. That's just how I view the world. Okay. Raquel, were you nervous?

Thank you so much. I'm excited, but I'm keeping it cool. Good luck. Don't be self-conscious. You can still do whatever you need to do on this date.

Thank you, guys.

OK, let's get into it. Tell us about the date. How did you guys meet?

You know that feeling of paralysis is often rooted in fear?

When we're faced with a mountain of problems, our brains go into survival mode, triggering a stress response that can make even simple tasks feel impossible.

Yeah.

Sounds good.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, thank you.

Right.

It's a natural human response to want to avoid discomfort. Totally. Yeah.

Interesting. Yeah. OK.

Wow. What's fascinating is that this technique taps into a powerful neurological principle.

The countdown acts as a bridge between thought and action.

Right.

Exactly. By engaging her prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain responsible for decision making, Mel essentially overrides the amygdala, which is our brain's fear center.

Exactly.

Yeah.

What's that?

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Okay.

Yeah.

All right.

That feeling of momentum, even from completing a small task, can be incredibly powerful. Yeah. It starts to rewire our brains, building confidence and creating a positive feedback loop that encourages us to take on bigger challenges.

Yeah. It's amazing how often those moments of surrender, letting go, lead us to exactly where we need to be.

Yeah.

Precisely. And Mel's story highlights that those small wins can have a ripple effect leading to bigger and bolder actions over time.

Yeah.

See you in a sec.

Yeah, it's amazing how such a simple technique, a mere five second countdown, can have such a profound impact on our behavior.

Totally, like that little push.

Exactly. And what's even more interesting is that Mel didn't initially set out to create a global phenomenon with this five second rule. It actually came about in a rather unexpected way.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, she was really nervous.

Oh, yeah. Total stage fright.

And that moment of vulnerability. Right. That raw authenticity. Yeah. Is precisely what resonated with millions of people around the world.

Yeah.

Totally.

And it goes crazy.

And it wasn't just about the views.

Yeah.

People from all walks of life started using the five second rule to overcome all sorts of challenges from finally starting that creative project they'd been putting off to quitting smoking after years of struggling.

Absolutely. Right. Yeah.

That's what makes Mel's message so powerful. It's not about achieving some grand overnight transformation. It's about those small incremental steps that build momentum and ultimately lead to extraordinary results.

Yes.

Exactly. You have to take action.

Absolutely. Mimela went from doing a handful of speaking engagements each year to over 90 plus countless corporate tours and workshops.

It's a reminder that success is rarely a straight line. Yeah. It's messy.

It's unpredictable and it often requires us to step outside of our comfort zones and embrace the unknown.

We'll be right back.

It's a story that reminds us that we all have the power to change our lives one five second decision at a time.

And that sometimes the greatest breakthroughs come from those moments when we're willing to let go of fear and just take that first step.

Absolutely.

Don't overthink it. Just pick one small action and use that five-second rule to propel yourself forward.

You might be surprised by what you can accomplish.

Oh, yeah. What is it?

Right.

It's such a powerful reminder that we are ultimately responsible for our own lives. Yeah. We can't wait for someone else to come along and fix things for us. Right. We have to be willing to take ownership and make those small, consistent efforts that will lead to lasting change.

Well, Mel's story is a powerful example of how even in the darkest moments, a single spark of inspiration can ignite a chain reaction that changes everything.

But the truth is the perfect moment is now.

And the only permission you need is your own.

Right. Like it's not always going to be perfect.

Yeah.

Exactly. And it's in those moments of struggle when we feel like giving up.

That the five second rule can be the most powerful.

It's that little nudge we need to push through the fear and keep moving forward.

Yeah.

You can do it.

It's a powerful framework for navigating the complexities of life and finding freedom in the midst of chaos.

Just do it.

And remember, you don't have to do it alone. Share your experiences with us. Connect with other listeners. And let's support each other on this journey of letting go and embracing the messy beauty of life.

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Thanks for listening, everyone.

For sure.

Okay.

Well, what's fascinating is that her journey begins in a place many of us can relate to.

Feeling completely overwhelmed by life's challenges.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Oh, no. It was like a perfect storm.