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Oh, I love that.
Oh, I love that.
So the thing that I need to work on personally.
So the thing that I need to work on personally.
Sorry. Is that I think I have really been doing myself a disservice, and this is connected to my epiphany about worry. It's connected to worry, which is I... And this came up the other day. Our son... Said out of nowhere, do you know why I say I love you? The last thing I say to you every night. And then he said, it's kind of dark. And he said, it's in case I die. That's pretty dark. Or you die.
Sorry. Is that I think I have really been doing myself a disservice, and this is connected to my epiphany about worry. It's connected to worry, which is I... And this came up the other day. Our son... Said out of nowhere, do you know why I say I love you? The last thing I say to you every night. And then he said, it's kind of dark. And he said, it's in case I die. That's pretty dark. Or you die.
Yes. And I said, well, I totally get that. And I'm sure, I mean, I didn't say this, but I'm like, I'm sure I've foisted this upon him because I'm constantly like everything I do. We talked about my gratitude journal. I'm constantly thinking about how does this read when I'm dead? Not only that, a lot of my life is limited. Okay. For example, we talked about going to the cabin this weekend and
Yes. And I said, well, I totally get that. And I'm sure, I mean, I didn't say this, but I'm like, I'm sure I've foisted this upon him because I'm constantly like everything I do. We talked about my gratitude journal. I'm constantly thinking about how does this read when I'm dead? Not only that, a lot of my life is limited. Okay. For example, we talked about going to the cabin this weekend and
I am always scared about you going off to the cabin with the kids to go skiing or snowboarding or whatever.
I am always scared about you going off to the cabin with the kids to go skiing or snowboarding or whatever.
Driving and the skiing and snowboarding.
Driving and the skiing and snowboarding.
And I automatically start to, like, preemptively process feelings of loss and grief. This is a constant in my life. I mean, it is scary living in America, sending your kids off to school. Sure. Like, but... It's no way to live. It's no way for me quietly. I mean, of course, it's good to also be careful.
And I automatically start to, like, preemptively process feelings of loss and grief. This is a constant in my life. I mean, it is scary living in America, sending your kids off to school. Sure. Like, but... It's no way to live. It's no way for me quietly. I mean, of course, it's good to also be careful.
Yeah. You know, I well, let's I want to I want to get to the aging thing. But first of all, I'm very excited to talk with you. So no one's listening, which we've already started.
Yeah. You know, I well, let's I want to I want to get to the aging thing. But first of all, I'm very excited to talk with you. So no one's listening, which we've already started.
But where's the balance between being careful and assuming death is waiting at every turn for everyone that you love? Yeah.
But where's the balance between being careful and assuming death is waiting at every turn for everyone that you love? Yeah.
But getting back to our son. I need to find a way to... And it might be going back to therapy. I want actual tools that I can use to start to stop this cycle of constant worry. And I can't even fathom how freeing it would be to just not have that.
But getting back to our son. I need to find a way to... And it might be going back to therapy. I want actual tools that I can use to start to stop this cycle of constant worry. And I can't even fathom how freeing it would be to just not have that.
Second of all, is anyone out there listening?
Second of all, is anyone out there listening?
Nobody's listening, right? Hi, Andy.
Nobody's listening, right? Hi, Andy.
It was so disruptive.
It was so disruptive.
I know. Well, it's really interesting because I similar to like period stuff that I've just talked about since they were little tiny kids and very matter of fact, like instead of it being how when I was raised as a big sit down and it's like, yeah, here's what's in it has all of this extra weight around it.
I know. Well, it's really interesting because I similar to like period stuff that I've just talked about since they were little tiny kids and very matter of fact, like instead of it being how when I was raised as a big sit down and it's like, yeah, here's what's in it has all of this extra weight around it.
Death has been part of the conversation in our lives since they were born because of my parents, and I know I bring it up a lot as a joke on the podcast.
Death has been part of the conversation in our lives since they were born because of my parents, and I know I bring it up a lot as a joke on the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, maybe, but— I, the way he said that was like, he realized it might be dark for me, but it was more like matter of fact. Like, you're wondering why I always, I'm the last thing I say, because.
Yeah, yeah, maybe, but— I, the way he said that was like, he realized it might be dark for me, but it was more like matter of fact. Like, you're wondering why I always, I'm the last thing I say, because.
He just said it. And then, and then I did, I like went back in to talk to him and I said, you know, if that were to happen.
He just said it. And then, and then I did, I like went back in to talk to him and I said, you know, if that were to happen.
If you were to die or I were to die. I know without question that we will be together again.
If you were to die or I were to die. I know without question that we will be together again.
And then I came and told you that and you go, oh, you had this attitude of like, maybe. And I'm like, do you not think that we're all like going to be together in some way, shape or form? Even if it's I mean, I think it's a way that we can't even fucking know.
And then I came and told you that and you go, oh, you had this attitude of like, maybe. And I'm like, do you not think that we're all like going to be together in some way, shape or form? Even if it's I mean, I think it's a way that we can't even fucking know.
But it seemed like he actually said, I know that in response to that.
But it seemed like he actually said, I know that in response to that.
So that is to say, you're right. It sounds like it could turn into an OCD thing. But he also doesn't seem too concerned about, like, if that's worst case scenario.
So that is to say, you're right. It sounds like it could turn into an OCD thing. But he also doesn't seem too concerned about, like, if that's worst case scenario.
And he's like, no, no, no, no, that's not quite it. It's more of an insurance policy kind of.
And he's like, no, no, no, no, that's not quite it. It's more of an insurance policy kind of.
Yeah, that was the culture. Now, you and I both, I lived in St. Louis, you lived in Idaho, which like St. Louis had a big, even amongst the adults, and we were joking about Catholics and the priests drinking. There was a big culture of alcohol to me.
Yeah, that was the culture. Now, you and I both, I lived in St. Louis, you lived in Idaho, which like St. Louis had a big, even amongst the adults, and we were joking about Catholics and the priests drinking. There was a big culture of alcohol to me.
And, yeah, though, you're right. And it would be these big parties. There was an excitement about it because it was all very illegal.
And, yeah, though, you're right. And it would be these big parties. There was an excitement about it because it was all very illegal.
Yes. And like hooking up and who's crushes and who's going to be there and who's not and all of that stuff. Yes.
Yes. And like hooking up and who's crushes and who's going to be there and who's not and all of that stuff. Yes.
I feel like it's this is really interesting. And I think this is true for sex also. But I wonder if it has something to do with, it was all off limits. So we sought it out and it's what you wanted to do as like a rebellious teenager. Whereas now I feel like in our culture in LA, that's not going to be this big, like you can't do that. It's almost, we all did that as teenagers.
I feel like it's this is really interesting. And I think this is true for sex also. But I wonder if it has something to do with, it was all off limits. So we sought it out and it's what you wanted to do as like a rebellious teenager. Whereas now I feel like in our culture in LA, that's not going to be this big, like you can't do that. It's almost, we all did that as teenagers.
That is so funny. I bet they found you to be a very interesting person. Oh, you're listening to someone asking, would you rather lose a nipple or pinky toe?
That is so funny. I bet they found you to be a very interesting person. Oh, you're listening to someone asking, would you rather lose a nipple or pinky toe?
So like everyone knows that teenagers are having sex and
So like everyone knows that teenagers are having sex and
But I think now that it's not so taboo and so off limits and so like you're going to get so punished if I find out the XYZ that the interest is gone. And then I also have to say, I think this generation of kids has a much heavier burden to bear in life. Like in some ways they've had to take on. a seriousness, like with climate change, with what's going on with the governments.
But I think now that it's not so taboo and so off limits and so like you're going to get so punished if I find out the XYZ that the interest is gone. And then I also have to say, I think this generation of kids has a much heavier burden to bear in life. Like in some ways they've had to take on. a seriousness, like with climate change, with what's going on with the governments.
We didn't have a second thought about anything. The only thing I heard about when we were in high school was the ozone layer. It was like, just don't use aerosol and it's fine.
We didn't have a second thought about anything. The only thing I heard about when we were in high school was the ozone layer. It was like, just don't use aerosol and it's fine.
We're in the month of Andy. We are? Yes, the best guy on the plan-dy.
We're in the month of Andy. We are? Yes, the best guy on the plan-dy.
But I do think you're right. I think that there's less partying. There's less, like, sex.
But I do think you're right. I think that there's less partying. There's less, like, sex.
I just saw this thing. I think it's a book called The Anxious Generation.
I just saw this thing. I think it's a book called The Anxious Generation.
That I want to read, and I know it's going to be very upsetting, though, but it is really just all about how screens and phones are so, so detrimental to society, particularly now that there's going to be a whole generation that have... had their faces and phones well before their prefrontal cortexes were developed.
That I want to read, and I know it's going to be very upsetting, though, but it is really just all about how screens and phones are so, so detrimental to society, particularly now that there's going to be a whole generation that have... had their faces and phones well before their prefrontal cortexes were developed.
So, I mean, I think the takeaway of the book that I haven't read yet is do not let kids have phones that they have access to internet and stuff like that or social media until they're 16, ideally 18. Mm-hmm. And to teach, you know... Phone hygiene. Phone hygiene.
So, I mean, I think the takeaway of the book that I haven't read yet is do not let kids have phones that they have access to internet and stuff like that or social media until they're 16, ideally 18. Mm-hmm. And to teach, you know... Phone hygiene. Phone hygiene.
I would like to hear from anyone who would choose nipple.
I would like to hear from anyone who would choose nipple.
Internet hygiene. And so that's another thing I was thinking about on my epiphany this morning. Lately, you and... And we talked about this recently, so I'm sorry if I'm retreading. But you and I have been kind of... Addicted to our phones or computers when we're in and around the house.
Internet hygiene. And so that's another thing I was thinking about on my epiphany this morning. Lately, you and... And we talked about this recently, so I'm sorry if I'm retreading. But you and I have been kind of... Addicted to our phones or computers when we're in and around the house.
And it's part of what's bad about like there's so many benefits to working from home or whatever, being creative and having flexibility. But the bad part of it is we're not going to our nine to five job and clocking out and coming home and being able to like put it down. And I want to be a much better role model. Obviously, our kids don't have phones. Right. But they have tablets.
And it's part of what's bad about like there's so many benefits to working from home or whatever, being creative and having flexibility. But the bad part of it is we're not going to our nine to five job and clocking out and coming home and being able to like put it down. And I want to be a much better role model. Obviously, our kids don't have phones. Right. But they have tablets.
Their schools have tablets. Their connection to school is a screen. So I want to do a much better job of showing that we are not connected to our phones at all times. Speaking of, this is such a perfect segue. Yeah. I saw this on Reddit, one of my favorite places to be on the internet. A healthy, wonderful place.
Their schools have tablets. Their connection to school is a screen. So I want to do a much better job of showing that we are not connected to our phones at all times. Speaking of, this is such a perfect segue. Yeah. I saw this on Reddit, one of my favorite places to be on the internet. A healthy, wonderful place.
But this did stand out to me, and I couldn't even predict how perfect this would be for today's episode. I turned 73 on Sunday.
But this did stand out to me, and I couldn't even predict how perfect this would be for today's episode. I turned 73 on Sunday.
The poster, OP, as they say.
The poster, OP, as they say.
Yes. Okay. Here are 33 things that I've learned along the way that I hope help you in your journey.
Yes. Okay. Here are 33 things that I've learned along the way that I hope help you in your journey.
One, kindness is the best deal going. You can keep giving it and it doesn't cost you anything. Two, now this is a big one.
One, kindness is the best deal going. You can keep giving it and it doesn't cost you anything. Two, now this is a big one.
There's a lot of like, hmm. There's a lot of like, I have all the answers.
There's a lot of like, hmm. There's a lot of like, I have all the answers.
The three most important skills for a salesperson. Okay. Okay. There's a lot of lists of how to be. See. The one sentence that changed the trajectory of my sales career.
The three most important skills for a salesperson. Okay. Okay. There's a lot of lists of how to be. See. The one sentence that changed the trajectory of my sales career.
How to interview for a sales job. Yeah.
How to interview for a sales job. Yeah.
Well, here's why. He posted a few years ago on the grilled cheese Reddit.
Well, here's why. He posted a few years ago on the grilled cheese Reddit.
It says cheddar, mozzarella, and feta on pumpernickel with a Parmesan crust.
It says cheddar, mozzarella, and feta on pumpernickel with a Parmesan crust.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. There's another grilled cheese. Four cheese on white bread with mayo and Parmesan crust.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. There's another grilled cheese. Four cheese on white bread with mayo and Parmesan crust.
Now, I had a crazy thought after all of that.
Now, I had a crazy thought after all of that.
He likes his Parmesan. You know what? I like this guy. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, here is his list. Two, important rule. You can only be offended if you let yourself be offended.
He likes his Parmesan. You know what? I like this guy. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, here is his list. Two, important rule. You can only be offended if you let yourself be offended.
That's very good. Three, when someone is drowning, now I need to learn this. And this did resonate with me, and I am trying to, I want you to know, internalize this. When someone is drowning, don't tell them they should have taken swimming lessons. Help first, educate second.
That's very good. Three, when someone is drowning, now I need to learn this. And this did resonate with me, and I am trying to, I want you to know, internalize this. When someone is drowning, don't tell them they should have taken swimming lessons. Help first, educate second.
But I feel like that's a good one.
But I feel like that's a good one.
No, it's a metaphor. But, like, I'm really guilty of this. For example... You know, you catch a cold or this is a bad example, but I feel like there are examples of this where you catch a cold or something. And I'm like, have you been gargling?
No, it's a metaphor. But, like, I'm really guilty of this. For example... You know, you catch a cold or this is a bad example, but I feel like there are examples of this where you catch a cold or something. And I'm like, have you been gargling?
Four, your struggles today will be your accomplishments tomorrow. Keep going.
Four, your struggles today will be your accomplishments tomorrow. Keep going.
Five, building... I don't need to do all of these.
Five, building... I don't need to do all of these.
Building resilience isn't something that comes and goes with your mood. It's your intention and becomes a part of you. Nothing can stop you when that happens. Okay. Six, at 23, I worried what people thought of me. At 43, I realized they weren't even thinking about me. At 73, I really don't care that much about what people do think of me.
Building resilience isn't something that comes and goes with your mood. It's your intention and becomes a part of you. Nothing can stop you when that happens. Okay. Six, at 23, I worried what people thought of me. At 43, I realized they weren't even thinking about me. At 73, I really don't care that much about what people do think of me.
Seven, books are like the years in your life. It's not how many you have, it's how good they are. Eight, with hope you can endure and accomplish anything. I believe that. Nine, what you think of me is none of my business. Okay, great. Ten, nobody gets to their deathbed upset they tried too many things, but plenty of people get there with regrets for the things they didn't try. Very true.
Seven, books are like the years in your life. It's not how many you have, it's how good they are. Eight, with hope you can endure and accomplish anything. I believe that. Nine, what you think of me is none of my business. Okay, great. Ten, nobody gets to their deathbed upset they tried too many things, but plenty of people get there with regrets for the things they didn't try. Very true.
Eleven, you can only be in a bad mood if you let yourself, I don't know, talk to my fucking hormones. Twelve, being grateful is a cheat sheet for happiness.
Eleven, you can only be in a bad mood if you let yourself, I don't know, talk to my fucking hormones. Twelve, being grateful is a cheat sheet for happiness.
Thirteen, the pain you feel today is a strength you'll feel tomorrow. Keep pushing forward. Fourteen, never say anything to yourself that you wouldn't say to a loved one.
Thirteen, the pain you feel today is a strength you'll feel tomorrow. Keep pushing forward. Fourteen, never say anything to yourself that you wouldn't say to a loved one.
Because people, when they're elderly with osteoporosis and whatnot, you fall. And if you don't have grip strength, you can't like catch yourself. And if you don't have foot strength, you're falling. And so a big, huge thing is foot strength. And I don't know if losing that pinky toe is going to shave off a couple of years off your life. Whereas I don't think losing a nipple would. Whoa.
Because people, when they're elderly with osteoporosis and whatnot, you fall. And if you don't have grip strength, you can't like catch yourself. And if you don't have foot strength, you're falling. And so a big, huge thing is foot strength. And I don't know if losing that pinky toe is going to shave off a couple of years off your life. Whereas I don't think losing a nipple would. Whoa.
That's a big one.
That's a big one.
I know, but let's look at some self-talk here. Fifteen, we make the best decisions we can with the information we have at the time. Give yourself a break.
I know, but let's look at some self-talk here. Fifteen, we make the best decisions we can with the information we have at the time. Give yourself a break.
These are good, I have to say. I say this to our kids all the time. Like, just be gentle with yourself. 16, say something, do something, be something stupid. 17, believe in yourself, don't listen to the critics. Okay, I think we're getting to some really just fucking general. 18, your age is up to you. I'm 73, but I believe and act like I'm 19. What? I don't know.
These are good, I have to say. I say this to our kids all the time. Like, just be gentle with yourself. 16, say something, do something, be something stupid. 17, believe in yourself, don't listen to the critics. Okay, I think we're getting to some really just fucking general. 18, your age is up to you. I'm 73, but I believe and act like I'm 19. What? I don't know.
Agreed, 100%. 19, action is the medicine for fear of failure. Just start moving.
Agreed, 100%. 19, action is the medicine for fear of failure. Just start moving.
Do it. 20, lead with your heart, but manage with your head. I absolutely made that mistake more than once.
Do it. 20, lead with your heart, but manage with your head. I absolutely made that mistake more than once.
Lead with your heart, but manage with your head. Meaning don't act all from heart. Like you still have to live in your head and manage things.
Lead with your heart, but manage with your head. Meaning don't act all from heart. Like you still have to live in your head and manage things.
21, you'll never go wrong being too kind to someone. Sometimes it will feel like they're taking advantage of you, but that's on them, not you.
21, you'll never go wrong being too kind to someone. Sometimes it will feel like they're taking advantage of you, but that's on them, not you.
Okay. 22, you can tell the strength of a relationship by the number of calluses on the upper lip from biting it.
Okay. 22, you can tell the strength of a relationship by the number of calluses on the upper lip from biting it.
Numbers 1 through 21 walked, so 22 could fly. You can tell the strength of a relationship by the number of calluses on the upper lip from biting it.
Numbers 1 through 21 walked, so 22 could fly. You can tell the strength of a relationship by the number of calluses on the upper lip from biting it.
No, I think it's passion. Upper lip.
No, I think it's passion. Upper lip.
And also, I don't think that's, I also don't think that's true, not to say like long-term relationships can't have passion, but the strength of a relationship, like passion is level one.
And also, I don't think that's, I also don't think that's true, not to say like long-term relationships can't have passion, but the strength of a relationship, like passion is level one.
Oh, okay. God, I thought this grilled cheese motherfucker just was like such a freak.
Oh, okay. God, I thought this grilled cheese motherfucker just was like such a freak.
To become successful, be useful. Be useful enough to enough people and success will find you.
To become successful, be useful. Be useful enough to enough people and success will find you.
If you don't expect anything, you'll never be disappointed. Well, that's your fucking motto. Yeah.
If you don't expect anything, you'll never be disappointed. Well, that's your fucking motto. Yeah.
Something to think about.
Something to think about.
So little time, so many books. Okay, now we veered off into weird territory.
So little time, so many books. Okay, now we veered off into weird territory.
At 30, everyone has their first day on the job. Give them a break.
At 30, everyone has their first day on the job. Give them a break.
I read this more, though, as like if you're dealing with someone in, let's say, service or whatever, and they're like not doing well.
I read this more, though, as like if you're dealing with someone in, let's say, service or whatever, and they're like not doing well.
There are people who just become enraged in the entitlement, and it's like, no, dude, everyone's got to learn. 31, money is important to have and usually necessary until your happiness becomes more important. Great.
There are people who just become enraged in the entitlement, and it's like, no, dude, everyone's got to learn. 31, money is important to have and usually necessary until your happiness becomes more important. Great.
My best tip and hope for us, live and let live. Great.
My best tip and hope for us, live and let live. Great.
Please. By all means.
Please. By all means.
Okay. There's some good nuggets in there. I think it could have been. I have number 34. Editing is your friend.
Okay. There's some good nuggets in there. I think it could have been. I have number 34. Editing is your friend.
Got to edit. Got to edit.
Got to edit. Got to edit.
I got to find one more grilled cheese. American, sharp cheddar, feta.
I got to find one more grilled cheese. American, sharp cheddar, feta.
Yes, with American and sharp cheddar on multigrain. And then, oh, this is cute. It's on a plate with a giraffe, and it says, pass the giraffe test.
Yes, with American and sharp cheddar on multigrain. And then, oh, this is cute. It's on a plate with a giraffe, and it says, pass the giraffe test.
Yeah, I do too. Grilled cheese Thursday with a bonus. Made from scratch tomato soup, mozzarella, sharp cheddar, feta on seeded rye with a mayo and Parmesan crust.
Yeah, I do too. Grilled cheese Thursday with a bonus. Made from scratch tomato soup, mozzarella, sharp cheddar, feta on seeded rye with a mayo and Parmesan crust.
Okay. Well, this guy is changing lives left and right. Can I say something else about you?
Okay. Well, this guy is changing lives left and right. Can I say something else about you?
Yeah. You have such a great sense of style. And you've really kind of locked in. You have kind of basics that you wear.
Yeah. You have such a great sense of style. And you've really kind of locked in. You have kind of basics that you wear.
I can't wait. Go for it.
I can't wait. Go for it.
I know. But now I'm also a 45-year-old woman, so I don't really know. But I also think it would be ridiculous for you to dress as one of these, like, 90s kids. The 90s are back. Oh, sure. You know, the baggy jeans. And that would look insane on you. Mm-hmm. But I think that your style has evolved ever so slightly. It's become more refined. You wear it very well.
I know. But now I'm also a 45-year-old woman, so I don't really know. But I also think it would be ridiculous for you to dress as one of these, like, 90s kids. The 90s are back. Oh, sure. You know, the baggy jeans. And that would look insane on you. Mm-hmm. But I think that your style has evolved ever so slightly. It's become more refined. You wear it very well.
And you've kind of honed in on basics that you use. And I admire that because I'm in a funk with clothes.
And you've kind of honed in on basics that you use. And I admire that because I'm in a funk with clothes.
It's like beyond treating. At this point, it's a necessity. I need to like go out and I'm kind of I'm having a midlife crisis about like, am I just throwing everything like to the wind and I'm going to buy a fucking cape and become a cape person? Like, do I? Yeah.
It's like beyond treating. At this point, it's a necessity. I need to like go out and I'm kind of I'm having a midlife crisis about like, am I just throwing everything like to the wind and I'm going to buy a fucking cape and become a cape person? Like, do I? Yeah.
Maybe. Why? I'm like, I don't know who I am anymore in space and time. Am I getting a whole new style? Maybe.
Maybe. Why? I'm like, I don't know who I am anymore in space and time. Am I getting a whole new style? Maybe.
Yeah. Something sophisticated and cool. Like, can I pull off a cape? You know, I have friends who pull off capes.
Yeah. Something sophisticated and cool. Like, can I pull off a cape? You know, I have friends who pull off capes.
Yes. Cool up. Can wear a cape.
Yes. Cool up. Can wear a cape.
No, no, no, no. Like a cool, stylish. It's sophisticated.
No, no, no, no. Like a cool, stylish. It's sophisticated.
Okay. Okay. We'll see. Just know that things are about to get a little crazy.
Okay. Okay. We'll see. Just know that things are about to get a little crazy.
I want to feel more refined and polished. Like, I feel like you've had your style, but now you're buying like much better quality T-shirts that you're... Keeping really nice and your pants. I don't know. I'm just like, but I also want to take some risks and, you know.
I want to feel more refined and polished. Like, I feel like you've had your style, but now you're buying like much better quality T-shirts that you're... Keeping really nice and your pants. I don't know. I'm just like, but I also want to take some risks and, you know.
I want to take some risks. What if I'm, you know, a person who has nice nails? I don't right now, but nice nails all the time.
I want to take some risks. What if I'm, you know, a person who has nice nails? I don't right now, but nice nails all the time.
This is clearly a torture situation.
This is clearly a torture situation.
Well, all of my clothes are falling apart.
Well, all of my clothes are falling apart.
Huh. Okay. That's not good. Really? Yeah. Well, if you see a hole, flag it and toss it.
Huh. Okay. That's not good. Really? Yeah. Well, if you see a hole, flag it and toss it.
Let's just say it's not... No, of course it is.
Let's just say it's not... No, of course it is.
I don't want holes walking around.
I don't want holes walking around.
It looks like an overhaul is needed, and I'm going to be... I'll report back. But I might be... I might be... Going a little rogue. I think I'm going to stay on course for the most part for the things that need to be like replaced and updated. But there might be a like fun twist here and there.
It looks like an overhaul is needed, and I'm going to be... I'll report back. But I might be... I might be... Going a little rogue. I think I'm going to stay on course for the most part for the things that need to be like replaced and updated. But there might be a like fun twist here and there.
Well, yeah, I actually, if we really are talking like no one's listening, I want to talk to you about it. Great. Okay. We have our new podcast, Nobody's News. It's been a delight to do every day. It's been successful, you know, growing little by little. Yeah. And you have felt like you want to scratch this itch of going to do more kind of outside the box things such as field pieces. Yes.
Well, yeah, I actually, if we really are talking like no one's listening, I want to talk to you about it. Great. Okay. We have our new podcast, Nobody's News. It's been a delight to do every day. It's been successful, you know, growing little by little. Yeah. And you have felt like you want to scratch this itch of going to do more kind of outside the box things such as field pieces. Yes.
Right. I think we all understood that.
Right. I think we all understood that.
So by the time this episode comes out, we will have done this because we're doing it today.
So by the time this episode comes out, we will have done this because we're doing it today.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
And we can edit this, but just to be real real. Yeah. So there is an unveiling of a Betty White stamp happening at the Los Angeles Zoo.
And we can edit this, but just to be real real. Yeah. So there is an unveiling of a Betty White stamp happening at the Los Angeles Zoo.
You emailed people...
You emailed people...
So you're in touch with a federal employee of the United States Postal Service, and you've told them that we're journalists?
So you're in touch with a federal employee of the United States Postal Service, and you've told them that we're journalists?
And we're in. We want to cover this event.
And we're in. We want to cover this event.
And so I'm just, first of all, I'm curious. I'm like, obviously such a huge Betty White fan and I'm very excited to see this tribute to her. And I'm sure I'm curious what like they have in store for us.
And so I'm just, first of all, I'm curious. I'm like, obviously such a huge Betty White fan and I'm very excited to see this tribute to her. And I'm sure I'm curious what like they have in store for us.
I saw it on some like nice white china with some really beautiful ornate silverware.
I saw it on some like nice white china with some really beautiful ornate silverware.
How do you see this going, though? Because what has happened since then is we've gotten credentials. You had lanyards made for us with our nobody's news. Like necklaces.
How do you see this going, though? Because what has happened since then is we've gotten credentials. You had lanyards made for us with our nobody's news. Like necklaces.
Yeah. And so we're going to meet up with like a media circus and be shuttled over to the zoo.
Yeah. And so we're going to meet up with like a media circus and be shuttled over to the zoo.
Wait, this is why, Andy, I feel like you haven't like thought this through, really.
Wait, this is why, Andy, I feel like you haven't like thought this through, really.
Oh, that's cool.
Oh, that's cool.
Okay, so... That's cool. Then what do you see happening? Like, how is this going to... And here's my thing. What I think is very special about our news show, similar to this show, is that it's you and I bringing news stories to each other and riffing on them and talking about them and whatever.
Okay, so... That's cool. Then what do you see happening? Like, how is this going to... And here's my thing. What I think is very special about our news show, similar to this show, is that it's you and I bringing news stories to each other and riffing on them and talking about them and whatever.
I have a few questions. Toe, bone in?
I have a few questions. Toe, bone in?
So it's not so front-facing like a typical news show where you're sitting at a desk facing the audience and going, here, audience, here's the information. The idea, like if you were going to go do a field piece and come back and kind of present it to me.
So it's not so front-facing like a typical news show where you're sitting at a desk facing the audience and going, here, audience, here's the information. The idea, like if you were going to go do a field piece and come back and kind of present it to me.
Very, very excited to be here in April.
Very, very excited to be here in April.
I am sure. And I'm so glad that we're on the same page because, well, I did get a sense you were excited to go by yourself. But also just keeping in line with what our show is about. I'm like, how are we doing this piece together? And then it's then we're presenting it to the audience, which is not really our thing.
I am sure. And I'm so glad that we're on the same page because, well, I did get a sense you were excited to go by yourself. But also just keeping in line with what our show is about. I'm like, how are we doing this piece together? And then it's then we're presenting it to the audience, which is not really our thing.
Yes, it does. Can we say bone out?
Yes, it does. Can we say bone out?
Well, here's the other thing.
Well, here's the other thing.
Here's the other thing.
Here's the other thing.
Similar to this show, how you make the clips that go on Instagram. This field piece thing is really your thing. Okay. I'm not that excited about it, to be honest.
Similar to this show, how you make the clips that go on Instagram. This field piece thing is really your thing. Okay. I'm not that excited about it, to be honest.
No. I was excited to go because it's something to do. It's just a thing.
No. I was excited to go because it's something to do. It's just a thing.
Yeah, I'm not like, ooh, I can't wait to connect. I'm sure that it would be fun. I'm sure it would be fun.
Yeah, I'm not like, ooh, I can't wait to connect. I'm sure that it would be fun. I'm sure it would be fun.
Right. Which is your thing and which is a very special thing that you bring to the program. Right.
Right. Which is your thing and which is a very special thing that you bring to the program. Right.
Well, I'm already like, you know, we've done those shots, slippery nipple. Which I know is very different.
Well, I'm already like, you know, we've done those shots, slippery nipple. Which I know is very different.
Oh, my gosh. See, I'm really excited for you. This is so interesting because on my walk, God, I was having epiphany after epiphany. I had landed on, you know what, I'm going to go and be excited to go and have fun with Andy. Okay. And see how this goes. And if it feels weird that it's like so forward facing as a piece, then we should have that conversation.
Oh, my gosh. See, I'm really excited for you. This is so interesting because on my walk, God, I was having epiphany after epiphany. I had landed on, you know what, I'm going to go and be excited to go and have fun with Andy. Okay. And see how this goes. And if it feels weird that it's like so forward facing as a piece, then we should have that conversation.
But here we are, we had it and it turns out we were on the same page.
But here we are, we had it and it turns out we were on the same page.
Of course. Of course. I didn't think that you wanted to go to the Betty White stamp on failing and have a very serious take on it.
Of course. Of course. I didn't think that you wanted to go to the Betty White stamp on failing and have a very serious take on it.
You'll just have to—I mean, it's a very creative endeavor. Who knew journalism was so creative? You'll have to basically—
You'll just have to—I mean, it's a very creative endeavor. Who knew journalism was so creative? You'll have to basically—
You're going to find the tone like your gut instinct is going to help you navigate this and find the right tone for it.
You're going to find the tone like your gut instinct is going to help you navigate this and find the right tone for it.
I wouldn't worry. I wouldn't give it a second thought.
I wouldn't worry. I wouldn't give it a second thought.
It's like butterscotchy or something.
It's like butterscotchy or something.
Of course. There's so many reasons why you want the lanyard. It's creepy to have someone who's not identified as something with a microphone in your face. Now, I do want to talk to you, speaking of style, I think you need to wear like kind of a white button down, like Mormon style, you know, something a little less cool than what you normally wear that looks like you're
Of course. There's so many reasons why you want the lanyard. It's creepy to have someone who's not identified as something with a microphone in your face. Now, I do want to talk to you, speaking of style, I think you need to wear like kind of a white button down, like Mormon style, you know, something a little less cool than what you normally wear that looks like you're
Gonna give you a headache. I'm going to say nipple because I feel like it's almost like an oyster. Like it would go down pretty fast. You just gulp it down. Whereas a pinky toe, even my little tiny pinkies, you're going to have to chew. Yeah.
Gonna give you a headache. I'm going to say nipple because I feel like it's almost like an oyster. Like it would go down pretty fast. You just gulp it down. Whereas a pinky toe, even my little tiny pinkies, you're going to have to chew. Yeah.
No offense, but you're like kind of the B-list journalist who's out there doing field correspondence.
No offense, but you're like kind of the B-list journalist who's out there doing field correspondence.
OK, well, then comfort is key. Comfort is king.
OK, well, then comfort is key. Comfort is king.
OK, well, I can't. I'm so excited. I'm like also nervous for you, like sending your kid off to the first day of school. What's it going to be like?
OK, well, I can't. I'm so excited. I'm like also nervous for you, like sending your kid off to the first day of school. What's it going to be like?
No, of course. And you might inspire me.
No, of course. And you might inspire me.
I believe 46 is the number that we're looking at. Can I say 46 and thriving? You've never looked better.
I believe 46 is the number that we're looking at. Can I say 46 and thriving? You've never looked better.
Okay. I think I'm with you. You almost lost me at the last U-turn you took.
Okay. I think I'm with you. You almost lost me at the last U-turn you took.
So, okay. Let's talk about aging.
So, okay. Let's talk about aging.
So you look like you're about to cry. Listen, our society's obsession with youth, staying young. Now I kind of understand like when we're talking about aging towards in our 80s, 90s, stuff like that. Yeah. I understand the obsession with youth becomes more about like mobility and stuff.
So you look like you're about to cry. Listen, our society's obsession with youth, staying young. Now I kind of understand like when we're talking about aging towards in our 80s, 90s, stuff like that. Yeah. I understand the obsession with youth becomes more about like mobility and stuff.
Grip strength. And those are important. Like I want to live a full long life, but equally important to me is that I am functioning towards the end. Yeah. I don't want to live 15 years where I'm immobile or whatever.
Grip strength. And those are important. Like I want to live a full long life, but equally important to me is that I am functioning towards the end. Yeah. I don't want to live 15 years where I'm immobile or whatever.
Although if that happened, we would make the best of it. And maybe that's my journey.
Although if that happened, we would make the best of it. And maybe that's my journey.
But I just got very excited about skincare stuff. And listen, but there's also this idea. And I think for you aging, what about aging to you? Like the idea that you're turning 46 bums you out.
But I just got very excited about skincare stuff. And listen, but there's also this idea. And I think for you aging, what about aging to you? Like the idea that you're turning 46 bums you out.
Which means you've been on this earth for 46 years.
Which means you've been on this earth for 46 years.
No, it was because she just turned 11 and she told me that she had the argument with you. And I was like, no, you're right, honey.
No, it was because she just turned 11 and she told me that she had the argument with you. And I was like, no, you're right, honey.
You've been on the earth for one year.
You've been on the earth for one year.
You know I've been so into you.
You know I've been so into you.
Hang on, hang on, hang on. But she's 11, right? And she turned one after a full year.
Hang on, hang on, hang on. But she's 11, right? And she turned one after a full year.
I almost pulled you aside this morning, but I've been feeling a little under the weather, so I thought maybe you would. But I don't know what is happening, but you're looking very handsome.
I almost pulled you aside this morning, but I've been feeling a little under the weather, so I thought maybe you would. But I don't know what is happening, but you're looking very handsome.
You have spent 45 years and 50... Weeks or whatever it is on this earth.
You have spent 45 years and 50... Weeks or whatever it is on this earth.
Okay. So... I hope you didn't have that tone when you talked, when you argued.
Okay. So... I hope you didn't have that tone when you talked, when you argued.
Do you want to say what it is?
Do you want to say what it is?
And you're doing and aspiring to do the very thing that he's saying. I don't want to be doing when I'm 45. Yes, sort of.
And you're doing and aspiring to do the very thing that he's saying. I don't want to be doing when I'm 45. Yes, sort of.
And CrossFit all leads back to injury.
And CrossFit all leads back to injury.
You're, I feel like, embarking on... My CrossFit journey is going to begin, yes. Some very exciting creative projects.
You're, I feel like, embarking on... My CrossFit journey is going to begin, yes. Some very exciting creative projects.
Well, I feel like those pop up here and there, but nothing's taken. You know, spinning was a big thing. Obviously, Pilates has become a huge, huge thing.
Well, I feel like those pop up here and there, but nothing's taken. You know, spinning was a big thing. Obviously, Pilates has become a huge, huge thing.
Maybe, but see, Pilates is, I think, here to stay. Yeah.
Maybe, but see, Pilates is, I think, here to stay. Yeah.
Well, Pilates is really helpful in recovery from the injuries that you'll get from CrossFit. So it's kind of on this choo-choo train of fitness.
Well, Pilates is really helpful in recovery from the injuries that you'll get from CrossFit. So it's kind of on this choo-choo train of fitness.
I'm just hoping to walk every day. That's my goal right now.
I'm just hoping to walk every day. That's my goal right now.
Well, listen, I had kind of an epiphany this morning.
Well, listen, I had kind of an epiphany this morning.
And I journaled about it.
And I journaled about it.
Which was, you and I are kind of embarking on some exciting, we don't know what's coming down the pipeline vibes in our life. And that's the best way to live life, I feel. I think that I have been obsessed with knowing what's happening, knowing what the future looks like, which is very hard to do when you're in creative endeavors. Mm-hmm.
Which was, you and I are kind of embarking on some exciting, we don't know what's coming down the pipeline vibes in our life. And that's the best way to live life, I feel. I think that I have been obsessed with knowing what's happening, knowing what the future looks like, which is very hard to do when you're in creative endeavors. Mm-hmm.
And you're crushing it as a father and a husband.
And you're crushing it as a father and a husband.
I've been very lucky in my career that it seemed pretty steady and I had this assumption that it would remain that way. But it's been actually such a gift and like a sense of freedom to realize that that's not the case. And worrying about it is so pointless. It's such a waste of energy. And worrying about literally almost anything is a waste of energy. And I need to really...
I've been very lucky in my career that it seemed pretty steady and I had this assumption that it would remain that way. But it's been actually such a gift and like a sense of freedom to realize that that's not the case. And worrying about it is so pointless. It's such a waste of energy. And worrying about literally almost anything is a waste of energy. And I need to really...
work hard on something which I'll get to in my my like mindset but I think that this is a beauty that comes with aging is like trusting that it's all going to work out everything's going to be okay and actually beyond that being so excited to see the twists and turns that life will take
work hard on something which I'll get to in my my like mindset but I think that this is a beauty that comes with aging is like trusting that it's all going to work out everything's going to be okay and actually beyond that being so excited to see the twists and turns that life will take
You should feel so into yourself.
You should feel so into yourself.
And I think it's really exciting to look at in this ride. I feel like I've lived 85 lives. Like, I went to UC Santa Barbara and tried to be a beach kid. I, you know, lived in New York and did terrace gardening. I did comedy theater in New York. You were like a little fucking punk doing shows at Reykjavik and Iceland Airwaves. You know, we've both had like...
And I think it's really exciting to look at in this ride. I feel like I've lived 85 lives. Like, I went to UC Santa Barbara and tried to be a beach kid. I, you know, lived in New York and did terrace gardening. I did comedy theater in New York. You were like a little fucking punk doing shows at Reykjavik and Iceland Airwaves. You know, we've both had like...
different phases and chapters in our life and we don't know what's to come i was even thinking about like podcasting okay And how maybe there's some world where because I can write stories, like I write a narrative podcast and cast really cool people.
different phases and chapters in our life and we don't know what's to come i was even thinking about like podcasting okay And how maybe there's some world where because I can write stories, like I write a narrative podcast and cast really cool people.
And like, I don't fucking know. I mean, that's something, who knows what's going to happen.
And like, I don't fucking know. I mean, that's something, who knows what's going to happen.
But I think it's being open to following like whatever creative wave kind of starts to carry you. Whoa. And being like going with it.
But I think it's being open to following like whatever creative wave kind of starts to carry you. Whoa. And being like going with it.
Oh, I love that.
So the thing that I need to work on personally.
Sorry. Is that I think I have really been doing myself a disservice, and this is connected to my epiphany about worry. It's connected to worry, which is I... And this came up the other day. Our son... Said out of nowhere, do you know why I say I love you? The last thing I say to you every night. And then he said, it's kind of dark. And he said, it's in case I die. That's pretty dark. Or you die.
Yes. And I said, well, I totally get that. And I'm sure, I mean, I didn't say this, but I'm like, I'm sure I've foisted this upon him because I'm constantly like everything I do. We talked about my gratitude journal. I'm constantly thinking about how does this read when I'm dead? Not only that, a lot of my life is limited. Okay. For example, we talked about going to the cabin this weekend and
I am always scared about you going off to the cabin with the kids to go skiing or snowboarding or whatever.
Driving and the skiing and snowboarding.
And I automatically start to, like, preemptively process feelings of loss and grief. This is a constant in my life. I mean, it is scary living in America, sending your kids off to school. Sure. Like, but... It's no way to live. It's no way for me quietly. I mean, of course, it's good to also be careful.
Yeah. You know, I well, let's I want to I want to get to the aging thing. But first of all, I'm very excited to talk with you. So no one's listening, which we've already started.
But where's the balance between being careful and assuming death is waiting at every turn for everyone that you love? Yeah.
But getting back to our son. I need to find a way to... And it might be going back to therapy. I want actual tools that I can use to start to stop this cycle of constant worry. And I can't even fathom how freeing it would be to just not have that.
Second of all, is anyone out there listening?
Nobody's listening, right? Hi, Andy.
It was so disruptive.
I know. Well, it's really interesting because I similar to like period stuff that I've just talked about since they were little tiny kids and very matter of fact, like instead of it being how when I was raised as a big sit down and it's like, yeah, here's what's in it has all of this extra weight around it.
Death has been part of the conversation in our lives since they were born because of my parents, and I know I bring it up a lot as a joke on the podcast.
Yeah, yeah, maybe, but— I, the way he said that was like, he realized it might be dark for me, but it was more like matter of fact. Like, you're wondering why I always, I'm the last thing I say, because.
He just said it. And then, and then I did, I like went back in to talk to him and I said, you know, if that were to happen.
If you were to die or I were to die. I know without question that we will be together again.
And then I came and told you that and you go, oh, you had this attitude of like, maybe. And I'm like, do you not think that we're all like going to be together in some way, shape or form? Even if it's I mean, I think it's a way that we can't even fucking know.
But it seemed like he actually said, I know that in response to that.
So that is to say, you're right. It sounds like it could turn into an OCD thing. But he also doesn't seem too concerned about, like, if that's worst case scenario.
And he's like, no, no, no, no, that's not quite it. It's more of an insurance policy kind of.
Yeah, that was the culture. Now, you and I both, I lived in St. Louis, you lived in Idaho, which like St. Louis had a big, even amongst the adults, and we were joking about Catholics and the priests drinking. There was a big culture of alcohol to me.
And, yeah, though, you're right. And it would be these big parties. There was an excitement about it because it was all very illegal.
Yes. And like hooking up and who's crushes and who's going to be there and who's not and all of that stuff. Yes.
I feel like it's this is really interesting. And I think this is true for sex also. But I wonder if it has something to do with, it was all off limits. So we sought it out and it's what you wanted to do as like a rebellious teenager. Whereas now I feel like in our culture in LA, that's not going to be this big, like you can't do that. It's almost, we all did that as teenagers.
That is so funny. I bet they found you to be a very interesting person. Oh, you're listening to someone asking, would you rather lose a nipple or pinky toe?
So like everyone knows that teenagers are having sex and
But I think now that it's not so taboo and so off limits and so like you're going to get so punished if I find out the XYZ that the interest is gone. And then I also have to say, I think this generation of kids has a much heavier burden to bear in life. Like in some ways they've had to take on. a seriousness, like with climate change, with what's going on with the governments.
We didn't have a second thought about anything. The only thing I heard about when we were in high school was the ozone layer. It was like, just don't use aerosol and it's fine.
We're in the month of Andy. We are? Yes, the best guy on the plan-dy.
But I do think you're right. I think that there's less partying. There's less, like, sex.
I just saw this thing. I think it's a book called The Anxious Generation.
That I want to read, and I know it's going to be very upsetting, though, but it is really just all about how screens and phones are so, so detrimental to society, particularly now that there's going to be a whole generation that have... had their faces and phones well before their prefrontal cortexes were developed.
So, I mean, I think the takeaway of the book that I haven't read yet is do not let kids have phones that they have access to internet and stuff like that or social media until they're 16, ideally 18. Mm-hmm. And to teach, you know... Phone hygiene. Phone hygiene.
I would like to hear from anyone who would choose nipple.
Internet hygiene. And so that's another thing I was thinking about on my epiphany this morning. Lately, you and... And we talked about this recently, so I'm sorry if I'm retreading. But you and I have been kind of... Addicted to our phones or computers when we're in and around the house.
And it's part of what's bad about like there's so many benefits to working from home or whatever, being creative and having flexibility. But the bad part of it is we're not going to our nine to five job and clocking out and coming home and being able to like put it down. And I want to be a much better role model. Obviously, our kids don't have phones. Right. But they have tablets.
Their schools have tablets. Their connection to school is a screen. So I want to do a much better job of showing that we are not connected to our phones at all times. Speaking of, this is such a perfect segue. Yeah. I saw this on Reddit, one of my favorite places to be on the internet. A healthy, wonderful place.
But this did stand out to me, and I couldn't even predict how perfect this would be for today's episode. I turned 73 on Sunday.
The poster, OP, as they say.
Yes. Okay. Here are 33 things that I've learned along the way that I hope help you in your journey.
One, kindness is the best deal going. You can keep giving it and it doesn't cost you anything. Two, now this is a big one.
There's a lot of like, hmm. There's a lot of like, I have all the answers.
The three most important skills for a salesperson. Okay. Okay. There's a lot of lists of how to be. See. The one sentence that changed the trajectory of my sales career.
How to interview for a sales job. Yeah.
Well, here's why. He posted a few years ago on the grilled cheese Reddit.
It says cheddar, mozzarella, and feta on pumpernickel with a Parmesan crust.
Oh, wait, wait, wait. There's another grilled cheese. Four cheese on white bread with mayo and Parmesan crust.
Now, I had a crazy thought after all of that.
He likes his Parmesan. You know what? I like this guy. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, here is his list. Two, important rule. You can only be offended if you let yourself be offended.
That's very good. Three, when someone is drowning, now I need to learn this. And this did resonate with me, and I am trying to, I want you to know, internalize this. When someone is drowning, don't tell them they should have taken swimming lessons. Help first, educate second.
But I feel like that's a good one.
No, it's a metaphor. But, like, I'm really guilty of this. For example... You know, you catch a cold or this is a bad example, but I feel like there are examples of this where you catch a cold or something. And I'm like, have you been gargling?
Four, your struggles today will be your accomplishments tomorrow. Keep going.
Five, building... I don't need to do all of these.
Building resilience isn't something that comes and goes with your mood. It's your intention and becomes a part of you. Nothing can stop you when that happens. Okay. Six, at 23, I worried what people thought of me. At 43, I realized they weren't even thinking about me. At 73, I really don't care that much about what people do think of me.
Seven, books are like the years in your life. It's not how many you have, it's how good they are. Eight, with hope you can endure and accomplish anything. I believe that. Nine, what you think of me is none of my business. Okay, great. Ten, nobody gets to their deathbed upset they tried too many things, but plenty of people get there with regrets for the things they didn't try. Very true.
Eleven, you can only be in a bad mood if you let yourself, I don't know, talk to my fucking hormones. Twelve, being grateful is a cheat sheet for happiness.
Thirteen, the pain you feel today is a strength you'll feel tomorrow. Keep pushing forward. Fourteen, never say anything to yourself that you wouldn't say to a loved one.
Because people, when they're elderly with osteoporosis and whatnot, you fall. And if you don't have grip strength, you can't like catch yourself. And if you don't have foot strength, you're falling. And so a big, huge thing is foot strength. And I don't know if losing that pinky toe is going to shave off a couple of years off your life. Whereas I don't think losing a nipple would. Whoa.
That's a big one.
I know, but let's look at some self-talk here. Fifteen, we make the best decisions we can with the information we have at the time. Give yourself a break.
These are good, I have to say. I say this to our kids all the time. Like, just be gentle with yourself. 16, say something, do something, be something stupid. 17, believe in yourself, don't listen to the critics. Okay, I think we're getting to some really just fucking general. 18, your age is up to you. I'm 73, but I believe and act like I'm 19. What? I don't know.
Agreed, 100%. 19, action is the medicine for fear of failure. Just start moving.
Do it. 20, lead with your heart, but manage with your head. I absolutely made that mistake more than once.
Lead with your heart, but manage with your head. Meaning don't act all from heart. Like you still have to live in your head and manage things.
21, you'll never go wrong being too kind to someone. Sometimes it will feel like they're taking advantage of you, but that's on them, not you.
Okay. 22, you can tell the strength of a relationship by the number of calluses on the upper lip from biting it.
Numbers 1 through 21 walked, so 22 could fly. You can tell the strength of a relationship by the number of calluses on the upper lip from biting it.
No, I think it's passion. Upper lip.
And also, I don't think that's, I also don't think that's true, not to say like long-term relationships can't have passion, but the strength of a relationship, like passion is level one.
Oh, okay. God, I thought this grilled cheese motherfucker just was like such a freak.
To become successful, be useful. Be useful enough to enough people and success will find you.
If you don't expect anything, you'll never be disappointed. Well, that's your fucking motto. Yeah.
Something to think about.
So little time, so many books. Okay, now we veered off into weird territory.
At 30, everyone has their first day on the job. Give them a break.
I read this more, though, as like if you're dealing with someone in, let's say, service or whatever, and they're like not doing well.
There are people who just become enraged in the entitlement, and it's like, no, dude, everyone's got to learn. 31, money is important to have and usually necessary until your happiness becomes more important. Great.
My best tip and hope for us, live and let live. Great.
Please. By all means.
Okay. There's some good nuggets in there. I think it could have been. I have number 34. Editing is your friend.
Got to edit. Got to edit.
I got to find one more grilled cheese. American, sharp cheddar, feta.
Yes, with American and sharp cheddar on multigrain. And then, oh, this is cute. It's on a plate with a giraffe, and it says, pass the giraffe test.
Yeah, I do too. Grilled cheese Thursday with a bonus. Made from scratch tomato soup, mozzarella, sharp cheddar, feta on seeded rye with a mayo and Parmesan crust.
Okay. Well, this guy is changing lives left and right. Can I say something else about you?
Yeah. You have such a great sense of style. And you've really kind of locked in. You have kind of basics that you wear.
I can't wait. Go for it.
I know. But now I'm also a 45-year-old woman, so I don't really know. But I also think it would be ridiculous for you to dress as one of these, like, 90s kids. The 90s are back. Oh, sure. You know, the baggy jeans. And that would look insane on you. Mm-hmm. But I think that your style has evolved ever so slightly. It's become more refined. You wear it very well.
And you've kind of honed in on basics that you use. And I admire that because I'm in a funk with clothes.
It's like beyond treating. At this point, it's a necessity. I need to like go out and I'm kind of I'm having a midlife crisis about like, am I just throwing everything like to the wind and I'm going to buy a fucking cape and become a cape person? Like, do I? Yeah.
Maybe. Why? I'm like, I don't know who I am anymore in space and time. Am I getting a whole new style? Maybe.
Yeah. Something sophisticated and cool. Like, can I pull off a cape? You know, I have friends who pull off capes.
Yes. Cool up. Can wear a cape.
No, no, no, no. Like a cool, stylish. It's sophisticated.
Okay. Okay. We'll see. Just know that things are about to get a little crazy.
I want to feel more refined and polished. Like, I feel like you've had your style, but now you're buying like much better quality T-shirts that you're... Keeping really nice and your pants. I don't know. I'm just like, but I also want to take some risks and, you know.
I want to take some risks. What if I'm, you know, a person who has nice nails? I don't right now, but nice nails all the time.
This is clearly a torture situation.
Well, all of my clothes are falling apart.
Huh. Okay. That's not good. Really? Yeah. Well, if you see a hole, flag it and toss it.
Let's just say it's not... No, of course it is.
I don't want holes walking around.
It looks like an overhaul is needed, and I'm going to be... I'll report back. But I might be... I might be... Going a little rogue. I think I'm going to stay on course for the most part for the things that need to be like replaced and updated. But there might be a like fun twist here and there.
Well, yeah, I actually, if we really are talking like no one's listening, I want to talk to you about it. Great. Okay. We have our new podcast, Nobody's News. It's been a delight to do every day. It's been successful, you know, growing little by little. Yeah. And you have felt like you want to scratch this itch of going to do more kind of outside the box things such as field pieces. Yes.
Right. I think we all understood that.
So by the time this episode comes out, we will have done this because we're doing it today.
Here's the thing.
And we can edit this, but just to be real real. Yeah. So there is an unveiling of a Betty White stamp happening at the Los Angeles Zoo.
You emailed people...
So you're in touch with a federal employee of the United States Postal Service, and you've told them that we're journalists?
And we're in. We want to cover this event.
And so I'm just, first of all, I'm curious. I'm like, obviously such a huge Betty White fan and I'm very excited to see this tribute to her. And I'm sure I'm curious what like they have in store for us.
I saw it on some like nice white china with some really beautiful ornate silverware.
How do you see this going, though? Because what has happened since then is we've gotten credentials. You had lanyards made for us with our nobody's news. Like necklaces.
Yeah. And so we're going to meet up with like a media circus and be shuttled over to the zoo.
Wait, this is why, Andy, I feel like you haven't like thought this through, really.
Oh, that's cool.
Okay, so... That's cool. Then what do you see happening? Like, how is this going to... And here's my thing. What I think is very special about our news show, similar to this show, is that it's you and I bringing news stories to each other and riffing on them and talking about them and whatever.
I have a few questions. Toe, bone in?
So it's not so front-facing like a typical news show where you're sitting at a desk facing the audience and going, here, audience, here's the information. The idea, like if you were going to go do a field piece and come back and kind of present it to me.
Very, very excited to be here in April.
I am sure. And I'm so glad that we're on the same page because, well, I did get a sense you were excited to go by yourself. But also just keeping in line with what our show is about. I'm like, how are we doing this piece together? And then it's then we're presenting it to the audience, which is not really our thing.
Yes, it does. Can we say bone out?
Well, here's the other thing.
Here's the other thing.
Similar to this show, how you make the clips that go on Instagram. This field piece thing is really your thing. Okay. I'm not that excited about it, to be honest.
No. I was excited to go because it's something to do. It's just a thing.
Yeah, I'm not like, ooh, I can't wait to connect. I'm sure that it would be fun. I'm sure it would be fun.
Right. Which is your thing and which is a very special thing that you bring to the program. Right.
Well, I'm already like, you know, we've done those shots, slippery nipple. Which I know is very different.
Oh, my gosh. See, I'm really excited for you. This is so interesting because on my walk, God, I was having epiphany after epiphany. I had landed on, you know what, I'm going to go and be excited to go and have fun with Andy. Okay. And see how this goes. And if it feels weird that it's like so forward facing as a piece, then we should have that conversation.
But here we are, we had it and it turns out we were on the same page.
Of course. Of course. I didn't think that you wanted to go to the Betty White stamp on failing and have a very serious take on it.
You'll just have to—I mean, it's a very creative endeavor. Who knew journalism was so creative? You'll have to basically—
You're going to find the tone like your gut instinct is going to help you navigate this and find the right tone for it.
I wouldn't worry. I wouldn't give it a second thought.
It's like butterscotchy or something.
Of course. There's so many reasons why you want the lanyard. It's creepy to have someone who's not identified as something with a microphone in your face. Now, I do want to talk to you, speaking of style, I think you need to wear like kind of a white button down, like Mormon style, you know, something a little less cool than what you normally wear that looks like you're
Gonna give you a headache. I'm going to say nipple because I feel like it's almost like an oyster. Like it would go down pretty fast. You just gulp it down. Whereas a pinky toe, even my little tiny pinkies, you're going to have to chew. Yeah.
No offense, but you're like kind of the B-list journalist who's out there doing field correspondence.
OK, well, then comfort is key. Comfort is king.
OK, well, I can't. I'm so excited. I'm like also nervous for you, like sending your kid off to the first day of school. What's it going to be like?
No, of course. And you might inspire me.
I believe 46 is the number that we're looking at. Can I say 46 and thriving? You've never looked better.
Okay. I think I'm with you. You almost lost me at the last U-turn you took.
So, okay. Let's talk about aging.
So you look like you're about to cry. Listen, our society's obsession with youth, staying young. Now I kind of understand like when we're talking about aging towards in our 80s, 90s, stuff like that. Yeah. I understand the obsession with youth becomes more about like mobility and stuff.
Grip strength. And those are important. Like I want to live a full long life, but equally important to me is that I am functioning towards the end. Yeah. I don't want to live 15 years where I'm immobile or whatever.
Although if that happened, we would make the best of it. And maybe that's my journey.
But I just got very excited about skincare stuff. And listen, but there's also this idea. And I think for you aging, what about aging to you? Like the idea that you're turning 46 bums you out.
Which means you've been on this earth for 46 years.
No, it was because she just turned 11 and she told me that she had the argument with you. And I was like, no, you're right, honey.
You've been on the earth for one year.
You know I've been so into you.
Hang on, hang on, hang on. But she's 11, right? And she turned one after a full year.
I almost pulled you aside this morning, but I've been feeling a little under the weather, so I thought maybe you would. But I don't know what is happening, but you're looking very handsome.
You have spent 45 years and 50... Weeks or whatever it is on this earth.
Okay. So... I hope you didn't have that tone when you talked, when you argued.
Do you want to say what it is?
And you're doing and aspiring to do the very thing that he's saying. I don't want to be doing when I'm 45. Yes, sort of.
And CrossFit all leads back to injury.
You're, I feel like, embarking on... My CrossFit journey is going to begin, yes. Some very exciting creative projects.
Well, I feel like those pop up here and there, but nothing's taken. You know, spinning was a big thing. Obviously, Pilates has become a huge, huge thing.
Maybe, but see, Pilates is, I think, here to stay. Yeah.
Well, Pilates is really helpful in recovery from the injuries that you'll get from CrossFit. So it's kind of on this choo-choo train of fitness.
I'm just hoping to walk every day. That's my goal right now.
Well, listen, I had kind of an epiphany this morning.
And I journaled about it.
Which was, you and I are kind of embarking on some exciting, we don't know what's coming down the pipeline vibes in our life. And that's the best way to live life, I feel. I think that I have been obsessed with knowing what's happening, knowing what the future looks like, which is very hard to do when you're in creative endeavors. Mm-hmm.
And you're crushing it as a father and a husband.
I've been very lucky in my career that it seemed pretty steady and I had this assumption that it would remain that way. But it's been actually such a gift and like a sense of freedom to realize that that's not the case. And worrying about it is so pointless. It's such a waste of energy. And worrying about literally almost anything is a waste of energy. And I need to really...
work hard on something which I'll get to in my my like mindset but I think that this is a beauty that comes with aging is like trusting that it's all going to work out everything's going to be okay and actually beyond that being so excited to see the twists and turns that life will take
You should feel so into yourself.
And I think it's really exciting to look at in this ride. I feel like I've lived 85 lives. Like, I went to UC Santa Barbara and tried to be a beach kid. I, you know, lived in New York and did terrace gardening. I did comedy theater in New York. You were like a little fucking punk doing shows at Reykjavik and Iceland Airwaves. You know, we've both had like...
different phases and chapters in our life and we don't know what's to come i was even thinking about like podcasting okay And how maybe there's some world where because I can write stories, like I write a narrative podcast and cast really cool people.
And like, I don't fucking know. I mean, that's something, who knows what's going to happen.
But I think it's being open to following like whatever creative wave kind of starts to carry you. Whoa. And being like going with it.
Oh, my God. I love it, y'all. Hey, guys.
Oh, my God. I love it, y'all. Hey, guys.
I love that bullshit.
I love that bullshit.
And the first one, completely unrelated to anything, but I was just thinking about this last night.
And the first one, completely unrelated to anything, but I was just thinking about this last night.
Because I could be a freak all to the day, all to the day.
Because I could be a freak all to the day, all to the day.
Yeah, that's two poop jokes so far.
Yeah, that's two poop jokes so far.
We are young. Hey, there's a fire in our soul. We go big or go home together.
We are young. Hey, there's a fire in our soul. We go big or go home together.
Wait. Wait, why did they low-key kind of eat? Why is it literally tea? Why is this Dramageddon part four?
Wait. Wait, why did they low-key kind of eat? Why is it literally tea? Why is this Dramageddon part four?
Like...
Like...
We are young.
We are young.
Oh, they're kind of cute.
Oh, they're kind of cute.
What?
What?
That's not right.
That's not right.
Now, I did not know The Office had made Gabagool.
Now, I did not know The Office had made Gabagool.
To the early bird. What's that fucking TikTok sound? And I can be a freak all to the day, all to the day. Do y'all know what I'm talking about? And I can be a freak until the day, until the day. And we can walk through the night to the early morning.
To the early bird. What's that fucking TikTok sound? And I can be a freak all to the day, all to the day. Do y'all know what I'm talking about? And I can be a freak until the day, until the day. And we can walk through the night to the early morning.
Dalmatians are from Croatia? Martin Hamza. Martin. Martin and Hamza.
Dalmatians are from Croatia? Martin Hamza. Martin. Martin and Hamza.
I need, I need to be, I need to speak to a gay person. I need to speak to a gay person.
I need, I need to be, I need to speak to a gay person. I need to speak to a gay person.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah!
Yeah!
Go me.
Go me.
Go me, dude. that'll pretty much do it for me this week. So, like, thanks for listening. Thanks for tuning in. You guys are seriously, like, so awesome.
Go me, dude. that'll pretty much do it for me this week. So, like, thanks for listening. Thanks for tuning in. You guys are seriously, like, so awesome.
My fucking Red Bull ran out.
My fucking Red Bull ran out.
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This is on a constant loop in my fucking head.
This is on a constant loop in my fucking head.
And I can be a freak all to the day, all to the day. It's not right. Hold on. I can get it right. Play it again.
And I can be a freak all to the day, all to the day. It's not right. Hold on. I can get it right. Play it again.
And I could be a freak until the day, until the day, to the early bird!
And I could be a freak until the day, until the day, to the early bird!
Okay.
Okay.
I'm to say goodbye.
I'm to say goodbye.
It's Andrea Bocelli.
It's Andrea Bocelli.
Wait, here's the actually Italian words.
Wait, here's the actually Italian words.
And who performed at my wedding? Andrea Bocelli. Who performed at her wedding? Andrea Bocelli.
And who performed at my wedding? Andrea Bocelli. Who performed at her wedding? Andrea Bocelli.
Just shot snot everywhere.
Just shot snot everywhere.
And I could be a freak until the day, until the day.
And I could be a freak until the day, until the day.
He's got that church wail. He's got that gospel wail. I cannot do it.
He's got that church wail. He's got that gospel wail. I cannot do it.
Oh, good for me. Until the day, until the day, until the day. Wait, me really trying.
Oh, good for me. Until the day, until the day, until the day. Wait, me really trying.
Until the day. That was good. Who is that, by the way? Oh, I've watched him on YouTube. What is the fucking name? Durand Bernard?
Until the day. That was good. Who is that, by the way? Oh, I've watched him on YouTube. What is the fucking name? Durand Bernard?