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And they said, we can't do that.

Yes. When he said, we don't make the mold in America, that's the moment I realized we were screwed. Because you have manufacturing and then you have tooling. And the tooling is what makes the manufacturing work. What's the difference between manufacturing and tooling? Tooling, those are the tools. They're usually custom tools that go into the machines that make things.

Yes. When he said, we don't make the mold in America, that's the moment I realized we were screwed. Because you have manufacturing and then you have tooling. And the tooling is what makes the manufacturing work. What's the difference between manufacturing and tooling? Tooling, those are the tools. They're usually custom tools that go into the machines that make things.

Yes. When he said, we don't make the mold in America, that's the moment I realized we were screwed. Because you have manufacturing and then you have tooling. And the tooling is what makes the manufacturing work. What's the difference between manufacturing and tooling? Tooling, those are the tools. They're usually custom tools that go into the machines that make things.

Correct. Yeah. And so there's this whole industry called tool and die. It's a skilled trade.

Correct. Yeah. And so there's this whole industry called tool and die. It's a skilled trade.

Correct. Yeah. And so there's this whole industry called tool and die. It's a skilled trade.

In Germany, they have very specific programs where you will learn how to make tools for manufacturing. In the U.S., we have that too, but it's not as strong as they do over in Germany. But my dad used to be a tool and die guy. He used to work in tool and gauge and tool and die. And so they said, yeah, we can't make the injection mold.

In Germany, they have very specific programs where you will learn how to make tools for manufacturing. In the U.S., we have that too, but it's not as strong as they do over in Germany. But my dad used to be a tool and die guy. He used to work in tool and gauge and tool and die. And so they said, yeah, we can't make the injection mold.

In Germany, they have very specific programs where you will learn how to make tools for manufacturing. In the U.S., we have that too, but it's not as strong as they do over in Germany. But my dad used to be a tool and die guy. He used to work in tool and gauge and tool and die. And so they said, yeah, we can't make the injection mold.

We send that off and we'll get that back from China and then we'll run your part. And then I realized you're sending all the intellectual property overseas. and they're making it. While they're set up to make the tool, they'll just make two. I said, we don't want to do that. We want to make it in America. He almost laughed at me. He's like, yeah, you don't understand.

We send that off and we'll get that back from China and then we'll run your part. And then I realized you're sending all the intellectual property overseas. and they're making it. While they're set up to make the tool, they'll just make two. I said, we don't want to do that. We want to make it in America. He almost laughed at me. He's like, yeah, you don't understand.

We send that off and we'll get that back from China and then we'll run your part. And then I realized you're sending all the intellectual property overseas. and they're making it. While they're set up to make the tool, they'll just make two. I said, we don't want to do that. We want to make it in America. He almost laughed at me. He's like, yeah, you don't understand.

You clearly don't understand how this works. I said, well, there's got to be somebody here that makes it. He said, good luck. And that terrified me. It actually terrified me because it made me realize if we can't make the tools to make our parts, then China has us. Yeah. Or whoever has us.

You clearly don't understand how this works. I said, well, there's got to be somebody here that makes it. He said, good luck. And that terrified me. It actually terrified me because it made me realize if we can't make the tools to make our parts, then China has us. Yeah. Or whoever has us.

You clearly don't understand how this works. I said, well, there's got to be somebody here that makes it. He said, good luck. And that terrified me. It actually terrified me because it made me realize if we can't make the tools to make our parts, then China has us. Yeah. Or whoever has us.

And I was like, this is what my dad did, and the people I grew up with, this is what they did. Why can't we do it? And so I kind of went on this little mini quest to find somebody that could do this.

And I was like, this is what my dad did, and the people I grew up with, this is what they did. Why can't we do it? And so I kind of went on this little mini quest to find somebody that could do this.

And I was like, this is what my dad did, and the people I grew up with, this is what they did. Why can't we do it? And so I kind of went on this little mini quest to find somebody that could do this.

So I found a guy that could do it. He's an old school guy. He was from Pennsylvania. He moved down to Alabama and he has an injection molding facility, but he knows how to make molds. How long have you been making molds?