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Yet, globally, the Second World War was and remains the single biggest catastrophe of modern history. In terms of human drama, it is unrivaled. No other war has affected so many lives in such a large number of countries. So, what to you makes World War II the biggest catastrophe in human drama in modern history? And maybe from a historian perspective, the most fascinating subject to study?

So Tank Man, what was maybe the most epic, the most intense episode?

So Tank Man, what was maybe the most epic, the most intense episode?

So Tank Man, what was maybe the most epic, the most intense episode?

I should say that in your book, one of the wonderful things you do is you use the correct term in the language for the particular army involved, whether it's the German or the British or the American.

I should say that in your book, one of the wonderful things you do is you use the correct term in the language for the particular army involved, whether it's the German or the British or the American.

I should say that in your book, one of the wonderful things you do is you use the correct term in the language for the particular army involved, whether it's the German or the British or the American.

Yeah. I think I also have an element in me where I can believe in the idea of nation and fight for a nation, especially when the conflict is grand. The thing's worse than death. Yes, as the propaganda would explain very clearly, but also in reality, yes. So a nation, you know, France, Britain was maybe facing the prospect of being essentially enslaved. The Soviet Union,

Yeah. I think I also have an element in me where I can believe in the idea of nation and fight for a nation, especially when the conflict is grand. The thing's worse than death. Yes, as the propaganda would explain very clearly, but also in reality, yes. So a nation, you know, France, Britain was maybe facing the prospect of being essentially enslaved. The Soviet Union,

Yeah. I think I also have an element in me where I can believe in the idea of nation and fight for a nation, especially when the conflict is grand. The thing's worse than death. Yes, as the propaganda would explain very clearly, but also in reality, yes. So a nation, you know, France, Britain was maybe facing the prospect of being essentially enslaved. The Soviet Union,

was facing the prospect of being enslaved literally. I mean, it was very, very clearly stated what they're going to do. They're going to repopulate the land with Germanic people.

was facing the prospect of being enslaved literally. I mean, it was very, very clearly stated what they're going to do. They're going to repopulate the land with Germanic people.

was facing the prospect of being enslaved literally. I mean, it was very, very clearly stated what they're going to do. They're going to repopulate the land with Germanic people.

So let's talk about the hunger plan. How important was the hunger plan and Lebensraum to Nazi ideology and to the whole Nazi war machine?

So let's talk about the hunger plan. How important was the hunger plan and Lebensraum to Nazi ideology and to the whole Nazi war machine?

So let's talk about the hunger plan. How important was the hunger plan and Lebensraum to Nazi ideology and to the whole Nazi war machine?

Yeah, this is not a pragmatic, rational leader. No. I mean, part of his effectiveness, we should say, is probably this singular belief in this ideology. There's pros and cons. For an effective military machine, probably having that singular focus is effective.

Yeah, this is not a pragmatic, rational leader. No. I mean, part of his effectiveness, we should say, is probably this singular belief in this ideology. There's pros and cons. For an effective military machine, probably having that singular focus is effective.

Yeah, this is not a pragmatic, rational leader. No. I mean, part of his effectiveness, we should say, is probably this singular belief in this ideology. There's pros and cons. For an effective military machine, probably having that singular focus is effective.

Let's talk through it. So Operation Barbarossa that you're mentioning, and we'll go back.