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So let's go to the very end. The Battle of Berlin. Yeah. Hitler sitting in his bunker. His suicide. Germany's surrender. You actually said that Downfall, the movie, was a very accurate representation.

So let's go to the very end. The Battle of Berlin. Yeah. Hitler sitting in his bunker. His suicide. Germany's surrender. You actually said that Downfall, the movie, was a very accurate representation.

Oh, details. But I think it's probably, it might be my favorite World War II movie. Which is strange to say because it's not really about World War II. It's about Hitler in a bunker.

Oh, details. But I think it's probably, it might be my favorite World War II movie. Which is strange to say because it's not really about World War II. It's about Hitler in a bunker.

Oh, details. But I think it's probably, it might be my favorite World War II movie. Which is strange to say because it's not really about World War II. It's about Hitler in a bunker.

I mean, it's a fascinating story of a evil maniac. And then, and this, this certainty, you know, crumbling, right?

I mean, it's a fascinating story of a evil maniac. And then, and this, this certainty, you know, crumbling, right?

I mean, it's a fascinating story of a evil maniac. And then, and this, this certainty, you know, crumbling, right?

They're all the same, aren't they? You always believe you're doing good. And there's so many deep lessons there. So now you have written so much, you have said so much, you have studied this so much. What, to you, looking at World War II, is the lessons we should take away?

They're all the same, aren't they? You always believe you're doing good. And there's so many deep lessons there. So now you have written so much, you have said so much, you have studied this so much. What, to you, looking at World War II, is the lessons we should take away?

They're all the same, aren't they? You always believe you're doing good. And there's so many deep lessons there. So now you have written so much, you have said so much, you have studied this so much. What, to you, looking at World War II, is the lessons we should take away?

And you take for granted at our peril that nobody will use nuclear weapons ever again. And that's not a thing we should take for granted. No, sir. What gives you hope about the future of human civilization? We've been talking about all of this darkness in the 20th century. What's the source of light?

And you take for granted at our peril that nobody will use nuclear weapons ever again. And that's not a thing we should take for granted. No, sir. What gives you hope about the future of human civilization? We've been talking about all of this darkness in the 20th century. What's the source of light?

And you take for granted at our peril that nobody will use nuclear weapons ever again. And that's not a thing we should take for granted. No, sir. What gives you hope about the future of human civilization? We've been talking about all of this darkness in the 20th century. What's the source of light?

James, I'm a big fan. This was an honor to talk to you, and please keep putting incredible history out there. I can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you so much for talking today.

James, I'm a big fan. This was an honor to talk to you, and please keep putting incredible history out there. I can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you so much for talking today.

James, I'm a big fan. This was an honor to talk to you, and please keep putting incredible history out there. I can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you so much for talking today.

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