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He's eating lunch. Next thing he hears is eight or nine gunshots, and they're close. They're in his driveway. He walks outside, and that's when he sees feet with tennis shoes on and tan scrubs. There are a few things that stay with me, like he remembers that he was eating leftover deli meat sandwiches from Heather's graduation party.

If you're making a story up, you don't go that detailed into what kind of lunch you're having.

If you're making a story up, you don't go that detailed into what kind of lunch you're having.

If you're making a story up, you don't go that detailed into what kind of lunch you're having.

And they start a massive fire. It had to be stoked all day, all night, every couple of hours. And Roger had Nathan help him do that.

And they start a massive fire. It had to be stoked all day, all night, every couple of hours. And Roger had Nathan help him do that.

And they start a massive fire. It had to be stoked all day, all night, every couple of hours. And Roger had Nathan help him do that.

I'll be honest, we didn't decide it. It was kind of thrust upon us by an investigator in Jersey County. And all of us were kind of like, yeah, go ahead, whatever.

I'll be honest, we didn't decide it. It was kind of thrust upon us by an investigator in Jersey County. And all of us were kind of like, yeah, go ahead, whatever.

I'll be honest, we didn't decide it. It was kind of thrust upon us by an investigator in Jersey County. And all of us were kind of like, yeah, go ahead, whatever.

My partner and I said, this is just never going to get any better. We have everything we're ever going to get. So we thought we'd swing the bat.

My partner and I said, this is just never going to get any better. We have everything we're ever going to get. So we thought we'd swing the bat.

My partner and I said, this is just never going to get any better. We have everything we're ever going to get. So we thought we'd swing the bat.

Nathan was on the stand for a good two to three hours, maybe more. I mean, just like in the grand jury, you could hear a pin drop in that courtroom while he's testifying. Because family secrets are spilling out in this courtroom. I mean, he's telling a cold, hard, disgusting story that clearly there was no doubt that was truthful.

Nathan was on the stand for a good two to three hours, maybe more. I mean, just like in the grand jury, you could hear a pin drop in that courtroom while he's testifying. Because family secrets are spilling out in this courtroom. I mean, he's telling a cold, hard, disgusting story that clearly there was no doubt that was truthful.

Nathan was on the stand for a good two to three hours, maybe more. I mean, just like in the grand jury, you could hear a pin drop in that courtroom while he's testifying. Because family secrets are spilling out in this courtroom. I mean, he's telling a cold, hard, disgusting story that clearly there was no doubt that was truthful.

Nathan can be hard to read. He was ashamed. He knew what he had done was wrong. He knew what his father had done was wrong, and he knew that helping clean up was wrong. He was very remorseful.

Nathan can be hard to read. He was ashamed. He knew what he had done was wrong. He knew what his father had done was wrong, and he knew that helping clean up was wrong. He was very remorseful.

Nathan can be hard to read. He was ashamed. He knew what he had done was wrong. He knew what his father had done was wrong, and he knew that helping clean up was wrong. He was very remorseful.

That fire, others have testified, had to be quite large to burn a body like that down to the fragments that we found.