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So next up, let's talk about reform.

So the Reform Defection Party, which let's call it that for now, apparently it's come to an end.

They had trailed a move by a Labour figure.

They were really banging on about it.

We're going to get a big name from the Labour Party.

It failed to happen.

Also, this, oh, we're delaying it until we can focus on this.

Well, I thought you were best friends with Donald Trump, Nigel Farage.

Why don't you pick up the phone?

Anyway, over the weekend, there was a move by Tory backbencher Andrew Rosendale to the Reform Party who are not really the Conservative Party, they promise.