Coco Khan

I can understand that as a parent, there's probably a lack of support.

But then there's one thing to have lack of support.

It's another thing to be antagonized, to actively be criticized.

Is that an experience that happens?

Rachel, let me bring you in, not just as a parent, but also, you know, being part of this campaign, I'm sure you've heard countless stories.

And I was saying to Carrie before we started this interview, you know, I became a parent myself.

My child is not even one.

And I...

really realise how absolutely everything, making breakfast, leaving the house, has now become a tenfold massive experience and it takes so much time and headspace and it grinds you down.

Now you add on to that a child with special educational needs or a disability.

I cannot even imagine then, obviously, then add on to that the state treating you like you're a criminal or a negligent or feckless.

It is...

absolutely shocking.

I wonder if there's any stories that stand out to you from your own life or from the campaign that really bring home this, just the frequency and the non-stopness of it.

EHCPs just for the layman listeners.

I assume there will be parents who cannot go through with that level of stress.

And that's the tactic, right?

Is to grind them down and hope they give up.

The spending by local authorities, the number that's being projected is $14 billion by 2028.

And the IFS are saying, you know, this is scary.