Codie Sanchez

What are the difference between the two?

Tell me now.

This sounds great.

Oh my God, that would be so horrifying.

I don't think... I mean, I remember when I was working in corporate, my version of Jeff Bezos, his name was Jim Bowen.

Actually funny, JB.

But he was so impressive to me that the idea of letting him down in anything was sort of crippling.

And so I could only imagine how you would feel being called out in public because Jim was pretty...

He was pretty ruthless, in a good way, though, about public feedback, basically.

And so I've sort of taken it under wing in that not everybody can handle it.

I try to only do it to, like, executive level.

But, you know, he would kind of say in front of everybody, everybody's going to get to learn from this.

Like, that was wrong.

This is a huge mess up and you have to fix it.

And we're still friends to this day, I think, because...

To your point earlier, he would hold such high standards that I got so much better through that relentless sharpening, even though it sucked in the moment.

And I think maybe a lot of people today don't realize what a gift it is to have people who are hard on you.

Because if they didn't think you were going to be able to fix it, they would have just been like, well, whatever.

I'm not even going to talk to Ethan.

He's not going to fix this.