Cole Hatter

Hundreds.

Oh, no, no, no.

Way more than that.

All of them have some type of a loan against.

Actually, that's not true.

I have, I don't know, maybe 15 that are free and clear.

So, way more.

Like you said, I was actually 21 because I just turned 23.

I was actually a firefighter and then got in a car accident that put me in a wheelchair for a while and had to figure out how to make money on my own.

Didn't know if I'd ever walk again or how my long-term recovery would be.

And so literally from the wheelchair started my first real estate business.

Yeah, that was my very first dollar ever made on my own was that house I told you about in Austin.

Got it.

Still real estate or?

No, so a couple.

Number one, I like to do angel investing, as you said in my intro.

So I buy into beginner companies to help take them to the next level.

And I'm in a handful of small tech companies and some import companies there.

names which one are you excited about okay one's jam card let's give let's give elmo a throw out there so yeah jam cards a tech company i invested in elmo lovano is the ceo he's a professional musician that toured the world with just some of the biggest names out there as a drummer and um he created a product for the uh i guess you'd call it the professional musician community people who want to book gigs in a more efficient way other than just posting on craig

And so a jam card is, is it's a virtual, I guess, business card jam card for the community of musicians that actually make a living as a musician to be able to have a very professional way to, you know, some demo reels of them singing or playing their instrument, whatever it is in a community where they get gigs.