Coleman Ruiz

When you first truly separate from the

Ordinary World, Road of Trials, Meeting the Goddess, Temptations, Atonement with the Father, Apostasis, which is kind of like dying a death while you're still alive.

And then you're into those return stages.

And when I first read that book, Andrew, I was like, I'm trapped in the return.

I'm trapped somewhere in the return.

just emotionally.

And one of the places that I was absolutely trapped in the return was I didn't have the mentor to help me cross the threshold.

I knew I had to move on in my life.

I knew I had learned something extremely valuable.

I knew that there was a way through because people across thousands of years of humanity have done it.

I don't think I'm special.

And I never had the mentor.

I got mentors later, you know, a couple of years out.

And it reminds me that in the so I got out in the fall of 2011 in the summer.

One of my very good friends who lives in Connecticut, he works in New York.

He brought me to a lunch place.

at some fancy club in New York with a guy named Buddy Buca, Paul Buddy Buca, who won the Congressional Medal of Honor.

He was a West Point grad.

He won the CMH in Vietnam.

I'd been around a lot of famous military people.