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Collier Landry

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Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

Now Collier really wanted to be adopted by Dave Messmore and his wife, and they wanted to take him in. But since Dave Messmore was the lead investigator in Noreen's murder, it was a conflict of interest, so the judge wouldn't allow it. In Collier's documentary, A Murder in Mansfield, he read a journal entry from this time. And it had me in tears.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

Now Collier really wanted to be adopted by Dave Messmore and his wife, and they wanted to take him in. But since Dave Messmore was the lead investigator in Noreen's murder, it was a conflict of interest, so the judge wouldn't allow it. In Collier's documentary, A Murder in Mansfield, he read a journal entry from this time. And it had me in tears.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

Now Collier really wanted to be adopted by Dave Messmore and his wife, and they wanted to take him in. But since Dave Messmore was the lead investigator in Noreen's murder, it was a conflict of interest, so the judge wouldn't allow it. In Collier's documentary, A Murder in Mansfield, he read a journal entry from this time. And it had me in tears.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

It read, quote, my counselor told me that she believes in happy endings. I don't. But Collier said that eventually things began to look up for him. Following his father's conviction, he stayed in Mansfield and he was adopted by the Ziegler family who gave him a great life.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

It read, quote, my counselor told me that she believes in happy endings. I don't. But Collier said that eventually things began to look up for him. Following his father's conviction, he stayed in Mansfield and he was adopted by the Ziegler family who gave him a great life.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

It read, quote, my counselor told me that she believes in happy endings. I don't. But Collier said that eventually things began to look up for him. Following his father's conviction, he stayed in Mansfield and he was adopted by the Ziegler family who gave him a great life.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

There's part of me that didn't want to believe for a while that my father did it, even though I think I went through a period in my teenage years and, you know, like, could my father be innocent? Did I really hear what it was? Did I really do that? Okay, no, that really happened. Because you don't, ultimately, you don't want to believe that. Like, that's the worst thing imaginable.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

There's part of me that didn't want to believe for a while that my father did it, even though I think I went through a period in my teenage years and, you know, like, could my father be innocent? Did I really hear what it was? Did I really do that? Okay, no, that really happened. Because you don't, ultimately, you don't want to believe that. Like, that's the worst thing imaginable.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

There's part of me that didn't want to believe for a while that my father did it, even though I think I went through a period in my teenage years and, you know, like, could my father be innocent? Did I really hear what it was? Did I really do that? Okay, no, that really happened. Because you don't, ultimately, you don't want to believe that. Like, that's the worst thing imaginable.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

Your father murders your mother. That's horrific. You know, these are your parents and this is what you, you, like, you don't want to believe that that's the case. So... You know, I had to really get, I really had to come to terms with that and reconcile with that.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

Your father murders your mother. That's horrific. You know, these are your parents and this is what you, you, like, you don't want to believe that that's the case. So... You know, I had to really get, I really had to come to terms with that and reconcile with that.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

Your father murders your mother. That's horrific. You know, these are your parents and this is what you, you, like, you don't want to believe that that's the case. So... You know, I had to really get, I really had to come to terms with that and reconcile with that.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

But I decided at a very young age, I was, you know, you know, I was in college and I was like, I remember, not to sound hooey-dooey about it, my mom came to me in a dream and said, you need to forgive your father. Or maybe I was still in high school, actually.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

But I decided at a very young age, I was, you know, you know, I was in college and I was like, I remember, not to sound hooey-dooey about it, my mom came to me in a dream and said, you need to forgive your father. Or maybe I was still in high school, actually.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

But I decided at a very young age, I was, you know, you know, I was in college and I was like, I remember, not to sound hooey-dooey about it, my mom came to me in a dream and said, you need to forgive your father. Or maybe I was still in high school, actually.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

like you need to forgive your father and move on because it's only going to affect you it's not going to affect him you know and so i reached out to him when i you know you know we would trade letters back and forth um but you know my my adoptive parents would read the letters and they would explain to me like this is manipulation this is gaslight like this is he's manipulating you to feel guilty for him to feel bad about testifying or whatever you know and he's gonna fight this injustice and it's all it's all you know

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

like you need to forgive your father and move on because it's only going to affect you it's not going to affect him you know and so i reached out to him when i you know you know we would trade letters back and forth um but you know my my adoptive parents would read the letters and they would explain to me like this is manipulation this is gaslight like this is he's manipulating you to feel guilty for him to feel bad about testifying or whatever you know and he's gonna fight this injustice and it's all it's all you know

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

like you need to forgive your father and move on because it's only going to affect you it's not going to affect him you know and so i reached out to him when i you know you know we would trade letters back and forth um but you know my my adoptive parents would read the letters and they would explain to me like this is manipulation this is gaslight like this is he's manipulating you to feel guilty for him to feel bad about testifying or whatever you know and he's gonna fight this injustice and it's all it's all you know

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

It's sad, too, because that's my father. Like, that's my father. Like, that's what he created. That's his legacy.

Murder In America
EP. 183: OHIO - The 11-Year-Old Who Helped Solve His Mom's Murder

It's sad, too, because that's my father. Like, that's my father. Like, that's what he created. That's his legacy.