Colm Tóibín
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Of course, he doesn't want to buy Greenland.
He just wants to control a news cycle with some other thing ridiculous that he wants.
And you live in that.
And it's an extraordinary idea.
If you were a historian or if you were a student of history and you were wondering, how did things happen in Germany?
that Hitler got such control.
You think, ha, look at what happened in America.
I mean, he may not end up being Hitler, but nonetheless, the way the society went along with him, the way in which he was normalized, the way in which the New York Times would put him on the front page, looking presidential with his tie and that horrible look on his face, that he would still be called the president, but he should be called names.
I would call them names, but I don't have any power.
I think you'd want to be very foolish to think that a story you would write could affect America in its current state.
So I think that you have to remember that it's like the difference between, I suppose, between meat and fruit.
You know, people might need meat to live.
What do they want fruit for?
But people do want fruit.
In order to devote their time to growing lemons and oranges and peaches and plums and
So the fiction, I suppose, is like that.
It's lemons, oranges, peaches, and plums, whereas meat is the real world.
It's politics.
It's out there.
And the chances of you having any effect on that, I think if you think about a lemon, just how exquisitely beautiful that yellow is.