Colm

And there was no earthquakes.

There was like nothing like that.

It was just heavy, heavy furniture.

Like this is like furniture that you put up

to not get blown over, basically.

This is very heavy.

And it would take two people to move that table.

And the fact that it was dragging itself and the chairs were dragging with it means it was a lot of force to move that.

To actually witness this and to watch this play out, the fact that

Carmen was so involved in it and the fact that she came into the apartment there was just something obviously maybe didn't want us there and something in this apartment didn't want us to be there like once we finished the tour I think we you know we all flew back home I went back to Ireland and I remember like telling my family the story after and you know and then when you actually start telling the story you start realizing how how kind of insane it sounds you know but it's it's undeniable it's undeniable

looking back, it's when you're in these situations, you, I mean, you don't jump to these conclusions that it's something, you know, spiritual.

And I guess like now in my life, this was in 2011.

This is a long time ago.

And looking back, it's like

I believe that I'm quite spiritual, I would say.

I'm not religious, but I'm quite spiritual.

And I do believe in alternate timelines.

And I feel like there is more to it than this reality that we are in.

And I think this experience really helped come to that conclusion.

I believe that there's energy that is left behind.