Colman Noctor

And so that idea is very interesting.

hugely important in terms of that it is a 10-day stretch but obviously the stress of going out there not knowing whether you'll be coming back or not how this thing is going to go i mean can you imagine the heightened level of psychological stress that they're under uh with the hopes of a nation and the eyes of a nation and everything else that's kind of incomparable but um next time you're stuck in your families at christmas for a week think of those guys i think

maybe what if I didn't even have a room to do that but I suppose the plus side of it is and maybe we'll get on to that is that the perspective of seeing something so huge do you know what I mean and again I think there's something about there's a bit of a paradox about where we live at at the moment it's a lot of the advice is just tune into the moment and you know self-actualization and it's all about me and it's all about I and

There's something very problematic about that for me.

I think there's... What we do know is that people who have strong religious faith have better mental health outcomes because of this belief of this other or this... And...

In some respects, knowing how insignificant we are within the cosmos is actually quite a relieving thing to feel.

I mean, like if it's all the pressure is on me and I have to do this.

And whereas if you're going, gosh, I'm so insignificant when you see the vastness of what we're looking at.

And I think people go, the hiking thing seems to be really big at the moment and ice plunges and all of these sort of, we're trying to seek some sort of transcendent experience of something other than.

And I would imagine that if you're in that shuttle and you're looking back at the world and seeing it from that angle or from the dark side of the moon, whatever it is that you...

would have that moment of, gosh, there's bigger things than me.

Do you know what I mean?

And that sense of perspective.

Yeah, I think we're told less and less how minuscule we are, you know, because we live in a world where people would say, oh, I had an argument with somebody yesterday and they made me feel really small, you know, as a bad thing.

No, but I don't think it is, but I think we need to, we want to be big players in the world.

We want to have impact.

We want to have all that sort of stuff.

Like my mother used to say, there's always someone worse off.

Yeah.

Whatever you had.