Coltan Scrivner

And she said, because my scientists tell me they are.

Again, some wise practitioner is telling you that something you can't see is causing harm to you.

This woman didn't make it, did she?

She definitely wasn't convincing to them because they would say it's not worms, it's witches.

The witches who were cursing the water because we did this thing.

Yeah.

And so she tried to convince them and she finally did.

She said, look, there really are worms in here.

And they're like, fine, maybe there's worms.

But even if we take the worms out, that won't stop the witches.

Even with diseases, it maps onto our intuitions about there's something small that I can't see or something invisible that I can't see that is affecting me negatively.

If you don't have science, usually you then ascribe that to someone else who's doing it.

Yeah, that's how we ascribe bad environmental things like volcanic eruptions or pandemics or diseases or all kinds of climactic or weather events that are terrible, but also anything misfortunate that just happens to us.

We tend to think another bad person doesn't.

Yeah, he's not even hungry.

Look at him.

Yeah, the zebras don't really have a choice.

In much of nature, you live near your predators, right?

That's just how it works because predators want to eat you.

And so, of course, they follow you around and they live near you, right?