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Coltan Scrivner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2161 total appearances

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Because what scares me may not scare you or what scares you today may not scare you in 10 years.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And then there's this definition of if the creator meant for it to scare you, like their intention was to scare you.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And I was like, okay, that's an okay definition.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

But again, if a director creates something that's not scary to anyone, but they intended it to be scary, does that make it horror?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Or if it is scary to everyone and they didn't intend it to, is it still horror?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And so I was trained largely in biology, right?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

I think about these things as a biologist and I think, okay, what in like the format of the animal kingdom, what would this look like?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

So we tell stories where there's a protagonist and an antagonist.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

That's a pretty typical thing that all animals encounter.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

There's people they want to ally with and people they want to fight against.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And in horror, what I found, and I used LLMs to annotate hundreds of movies, right?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

So I had summaries of these movies and examples of the characters and what they were like and all these traits.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And what I found was that in horror movies,

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

it was distinctly a very powerful bad guy, powerful villain.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

So Pennywise and It, right?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And that was really unique to horror.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

It's the only genre where the hero is not very strong, not very capable, or at least is very overwhelmed by the villain.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

So in the case of It, again, you have powerful villain, supernatural clown thing, shapeshifting clown, but then you also have just regular kids, right?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Which are the most vulnerable protagonists you could imagine.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And that creates a perfect formula for a horror story.