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Coltan Scrivner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And so there's an interesting theory out there about why dreams ever came about in the first place.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And the theory goes that, well,

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

It would have been pretty useful to essentially simulate encounters with different kinds of threats while you're asleep because you can prepare for them, maybe literally, but also emotionally, again, preparing how you handle stress, essentially, but also maybe the dangers that are local to you and relevant to you.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And so that could be a good explanation for why that machinery evolved in the first place.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Now, once it's there, we might dream about all kinds of things.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

But it's like the people who would have initially been able to dream about these things would have probably also been seen as some kind of like clairvoyant wizard in their society.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Like, oh, I had a dream about this and this happened.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Right.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Probably going to butcher the pronunciation, but it's like oniromancy, understanding what dreams mean, how they can tell the future.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Every culture has been interested in that because dreaming is kind of a weird thing.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Like you go to sleep, you die for like eight hours.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

You don't exist in the real world, but you are in another world.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

You know, it's kind of a weird thing that happens.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Yeah.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And what's interesting about it is like cats, you talked about cat, like cat's dream, rat's dream, dog's dream.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

We're at least, let's say conservatively, 70 maybe million years diverged from small mammals like that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

Meaning that that machinery has been around for a long time in mammals.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

And then the example with octopus, octopus have an entirely different nervous system than us.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

So not only is it interesting that they dream, it's interesting because they're

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1276: Coltan Scrivner | The Evolutionary Logic of Morbid Curiosity

they evolved that ability separately from the mammalian line because it's an entirely different type of nervous system.