Conan O'Brien

And that is a leap.

What is the early, early writing for you like?

look like?

Is it pen and paper and trying to write things out in a book or is it playing around with a musical instrument?

Well, I mean, step number one is always you have to put stuff into the machine.

You have to open up your head and a volume of not just a type of music, but every type of music.

And they call it having big ears, but just the more stuff you're listening to at an early age,

I swear to God, they're going to figure out that it happens almost on a neurological level.

You can redirect, your synapses can grow.

You can teach yourself that it's a big musical world out there and it becomes part of you.

But a lot of it's just osmosis.

It's just listening, listening, listening.

Something that really interests me about your career, which is there's so many ways that I can't relate to what you do.

I admire it, but I can't relate to it.

And one thing I can relate to is that I started as a writer and I would write for other people.

I would write things for other voices and I

listened and watched a lot of comedy, but then I would write for someone, a known performer.

And I did that for years before I sort of solidified my thing.

And I think, I know early on you're writing for a lot of other people and that was your

your way in.