Conan O'Brien

And it's not something biologically we're meant to be able to handle.

I'm just curious because there's a little bit of false modesty about Brat.

It wasn't just successful.

Very few times can you say that an album is a cultural phenomenon.

This really was.

It was artistically a smash, but it took on a whole life.

The color and font...

of the album became a thing, that's when you know you've done something interesting.

Yeah.

You know, when, you know, you're whatever, you're passing by a coffee shop and the color and the font is telling you buy a mochaccino and you're like, okay, this doesn't even have anything to do with Brat.

Yeah.

They're trying to use Brat to sell a mochaccino.

Yeah.

This is weird.

Was there a moment when you've had success before, you'd been playing before people for a long time, was there a moment that crystallized for you where you thought, oh my God, this is weird.

This is big.

Or was it all kind of fluid in a way?

You're in a flow state.

This has all served you really well because the moment is your movie and, um, it is a, a mockumentary, which I don't think quite describes it because it's a, uh, yes, it's a pretend documentary.

It can be very funny at times.