Conan

That's right.

There was this period only a few years ago when he was in charge of West Ham where we were all talking about Arteta, Emery, Irola and Lapetegui, all these managers from the Basque country.

But he's just been shipped off to Qatar and we forgot about him until last night and he's back in our conscience.

I'm actually sort of a little bit surprised that there's not more...

sort of a feeling behind playing the game from people who want to protest, because as much as a boycott would send out a message, I think actually the game going ahead would give you the opportunity for a bit more international visibility, for completely grinding the game to a halt.

I'm not advocating for this, but I'm saying that this is the opportunity that you have then with the game going ahead, something as effective as 40,000 Palestinian flags flying in the Aviva.

That would be pictured all over the world.

That would be more effective than tennis balls going onto the pitch.

That would be a massive opportunity there.

It's a very tough one.

For me, Israel should be banned if UEFA aren't going to do that.

I'm not sure what the best play is for Ireland.

And it's a difficult one for the players to be in because from a football point of view, if they don't play, and Hal Grimson sort of said it, Israel win in that they get six points.

It's not as small as that, but they also get no headaches.

They actually get a bit of sympathy in some quarters of the world then because they've been frozen out.

And if they do play, granted, I get all the arguments of legitimizing things and life going on.

But there's also an opportunity to protest, to wave flags, to unfurl banners.

And I know Ireland are also worried about fines and whatever else to come with it.

But that's also the same situation with them not playing the match at all.

So in a way, if you're actually looking to make a message, and I'm not 100% in either direction, but I do really see the opportunity of the game going ahead as well for people who want to...