Conor McKeown

That is the point.

It was notable when Jim Gavin did the preemptive symposium with Johan Cantwell on the RT player.

And a lot of the snippets were David Clifford focused.

So kind of examples of him where, as Conor said, he might flourish.

And then like Armagh had won the All-Ireland and used the tactic that most teams had to that point against Clifford was make him run the other way constantly.

And he would try and cheat constantly.

and as in he was encouraged to just stay up but sure that just left an overload and he himself or the management would just tell him to you have to get stuck in here unfortunately whereas now there is like I was at the Armagh Kerry game at the end of the league and he spent most of his time when Kerry didn't have the ball standing under the crossbar like waiting for the ball to come back and it kind of stretches the pitch naturally On that I do wonder what the Gooch thinks of all of this because like

ironically he's an exception and has superseded what is the status quo i think of people are willful hostages to nostalgia or looking at the past and are unwilling to maybe make that call but people have made that call five years ago early do you know what i mean this is not a controversial thing i've just said or a new thing we've been saying this almost from his second or third year but those who rightfully protect the history of the game sometimes unwilling to

Yeah.

Buy into that.

But he is, you know, I think a lot of people would make that claim now.

What you were saying about him not having taught any of his schoolchildren.

One GAA class.

Yeah.

He doesn't strike me as a Graham Sines type who would get frustrated if they weren't picking up what he was trying to teach them.

But at the same time, as Conor's kind of outlined there, some of his techniques are not transferable.

Like I was chatting to you yesterday about actually the high fielding thing, which he doesn't get to showcase very often as probably one of the best high fielders in the country.

It's just they don't really give him that kind of ball.

His bounce is so low.

Considering he's got such long levers, he bounces the ball barely off the ground.