Conor Whelan

no idea about that topic, but that's just the way it was.

2013, yeah.

Yeah, it was just... But, like, I suppose, to answer your question, I, like, I...

I think it was more as I got older when I came to like 23 and 24 and I started, my life was, I was now living the years that he didn't have.

I think that was nearly where I was like, Jesus, like it's mad how much of life he had left to live like and I always even think that like even my mother's sister, like Niall's mother passed away when she was young as well.

I think she was 30 like and

Just when someone dies that young, like you just think they've so much of life left to live.

But you just, I suppose we all take it for granted in ways like, but it's just, unfortunately, that's just the way it is.

Yeah, so she died in 1996.

So he would have been...

I have Ocean McConville and Matt's here now.

Maybe around seven or eight.

Not sure exactly.

Like, look, mental health is very, very complex.

And like, I suppose sometimes I think we struggle to disentangle, I suppose, general challenges from acute mental illness.

And like, I think it's roughly 15% of the population experience acute mental illness where...

you know, they have an ongoing clinical issue.

Whereas I think a lot of the things I have researched and came across, a lot of them are manageable and a lot of them are, a lot of,

issues are are things in which if they are addressed in the right way they can be managed and dealt with and you can you can live a very positive life but I think the issue is is when those challenges aren't addressed I think that's

When they're left to linger, they rarely sort themselves out, I suppose, really.