Conán Doherty

Well, finally on tip, I know they had their fate sealed in the last round, but Liam Cahill was out talking, sort of having a go at people having a go at his team.

He said, and I quote, So this seems to be a thing now that's hanging over them and their people that they...

They had a bit of trepidation going into this year but it seemed like this year they were in a better position than other years where they had young players and they had McCarthy and O'Farrell and O'Donoghue that were doing so well and then you had the lift from McGran Ford last year who are very much marked men now like all these players.

And it's just really, I think it's so disappointing how it ended.

I know they played sort of younger players there against Limerick and they got a bit of a trimming, but Cal wanted to give them that exposure.

But Colin, this is worse than they would have hoped for.

They would have likely been in that All-Ireland knockout, right?

Let's take a quick breather.

so we're talking there about Tipperary and the struggle to back up an All-Ireland one man who is au fait with that is Jack O'Connor so same sort of strife now to Kerry are facing in the football championship and Donegal went down there and taught them a bit of a lesson really heaviest championship defeat since 2001 heaviest home championship defeat since 1934 Kerry are favourites for the All-Ireland or they were anyway they destroyed Donegal in the final last year

and Donegal come into Killarney and they have they have boys who we thought were injured so Murphy's there Lankan's there they have Hugh McFadden and Jason McGee in the middle they have Fimba Rorty basically sharing a pair of football boots with Paddy Clifford you know step for step he's not leaving his side Padder Mogan back in his all-star form Oisín Gallant since he loved playing against Kerry Shane Malone comes off the bench David Clifford held the three points from play two scores like by every metric Conor this was one of the great Donegal days but

And yet no one is talking about it because of Jim McGuinness' interaction with off-the-balls Tommy Rooney after the game.

Actually, let's play that clip first.

Do you think this would have been as big if Jim McGuinness had maybe prepared for this question and was able to maybe play it down a little bit more?

And I don't see how they don't open that.

I agree, and I thought the Gerard Brennan thing was mad, and I've said that loads of times, and I think this would be incredibly harsh as well, because what he has done is he's nudged Jeremy O'Connor.

He shouldn't do it, and I think a manager touching any player risks escalating things to the nth degree.

I do actually think it's a bit different when it's Jim McGinnis, just for all the reasons you're saying as well, because he's such a big player, and because of the shot of Ryan McHugh in the blood over his face, so this is obviously the halftime brawl.

But he's pushed the wrong player for starters.

He's pushed a player...

Unless Sean Herson has written that he's seen it and he thought it was grand, which I think would be outrageous of Sean Herson to do.