Corey Knowles

I've always felt like there's really a double-edged sword to it almost in terms of either approach.

But I tend to be, I definitely lean open source.

I think the ideas of what's possible when you put a more malleable model out into the world just gets so much more broad.

And with that in mind...

Yanis, what do you think needs to happen for open models to one day become the obvious choice over closed models for maybe a majority?

What do you think that tipping point is maybe?

When you just think about the difference in the last year, it's come a long way.

And there are a lot of new players.

It's become a competitive part of the industry even.

Oh, yeah.

Nice.

We're both open source nerds and tend to chase whatever's new and download it and see what we can run.

We're always tinkering.

So let's step away from coding for a second.

For someone in, let's say, marketing, sales, finance,

What's the first thing you think agents will be doing for them from an open source model?

Like what's that killer use case that open models can handle that maybe isn't smart with closed labs?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.